peanutismint 3 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Delgibbons said: I have it captured from SKY Q digital out. I'll put it up as FLAC when I get time 😊 I would love to hear that! 2 hours ago, aescalle said: PeterPan check your PM... Can I get a link too please? I reallt enjoyed Close Encounters. I'd never heard that live before. Something about it coming in from the complete nothingness of the silence of the Albert Hall - spinechilling. There was a lot of Star Wars, not that I'm complaining, but I'd have loved to have heard something a bit newer, like Rey's theme perhaps, or some of the terrifying First Order stuff from TFA. Also, Home Alone?! Haha sorry, don't want to look a gifthorse in the mouth but it's one of my favourites and it's just SO John. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 1 hour ago, publicist said: I was actually antsy to leave by the time Jurassic park rolled by. I really can't listen to these polished concert pieces anymore, played to perfection or not - but actually was there for JWFan and our merry german band of Facebook fans as it is probably the only opportunity to meet any of them. So you really hate John Williams. I think it was an amazing night. I was there with my friends, musicians from Helsinki phil and national opera. They loved it, very much. Of course they wanted to see JW but still it was terriffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 21 hours ago, Ricard said: Here it is! Is it just me or was the pitch slightly off on the tuba? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannhauser 101 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Yes. The LSO played superbly, but all these comments of it being technically perfect and mistake free are exaggerated. Trumpets hit a bum note in Raiders too, not surprised though after two hours of murder for them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I heard that bum note! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I'm listening to the stream. It definitely sounded better live. What's wrong with bums? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I was sat right behind the tuba player and leaned forward especially to pay attention to his part. The first note almost sounded like the wrong key! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I demand my money back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Next time bring the Prague instead! apples 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Can you remember the good old days of City of Prague Philharmonic when their brass section sounded constipated? It's quite a feat. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 The timpani player was certainly getting a workout last night. I would pay to just watch him on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Alex said: The timpani player was certainly getting a workout last night. I would pay to just watch him on his own. You creep! Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 If time has taught me anything, it's that JWFan loves a double entendre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PetePan 163 Posted October 27, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, Alex said: The timpani player was certainly getting a workout last night. I would pay to just watch him on his own. Told you before, it WAS Williams in disguise... The Illustrious Jerry, peanutismint and _deleted_ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 16 minutes ago, crocodile said: You creep! Karol What I get up to in my own time is MY business. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 1 hour ago, hornist said: So you really hate John Williams. What would this board do without your overflow of compelling contributions... bollemanneke and The Illustrious Jerry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 9 minutes ago, publicist said: What would this board do without your overflow of compelling contributions... You love us more than you love JW? Thank you for the compliment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I love you more than the Imperial March, if that's what you mean..😎 aj_vader 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWMike 117 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 James Southall's review. http://www.movie-wave.net/a-celebration-of-john-williams/ Delgibbons and Joni Wiljami 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 58 minutes ago, publicist said: What would this board do without your overflow of compelling contributions... Without me this place would be much more boring. The Illustrious Jerry and Quintus 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Biodome 714 Posted October 27, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2018 I don't have too much experience with film music concerts (been in two or three concerts showcasing Williams' music, as well as a few live-to-projection stuff) or even classical music concerts in general, so every time I go to a new show, there are always so many new experiences for me, and I'm at that stage where everything sounds special, even if played by a mediocre orchestra. So this evening at the Royal Albert Hall was something that I couldn't have imagined in my wildest dreams. I have never been to a majestic venue like that. I have never heard a world class orchestra like the LSO. And I have never seen such a renowned conductor with my own eyes. True, John Williams' illness was saddening, and it could have been so much better, but it was still the best concert experience I have ever had in my entire life. I don't even care that the programme was Star Wars-heavy, or that there weren't more obscure examples from Williams' work. I was just so immersed by how well everything was performed. Most of the pieces felt just like the CD recording versions, and I could never say the same of the previous concerts by other orchestras that I have attended. LSO seemed to have perfect control of the sound, each section powerful and distinct, yet unprecedentedly balanced, and that sound reverberated through the whole venue, and it felt like the venue was built for the orchestra. It was all so harmonious. I was on the verge of tears all the time - there was nothing else so beautiful that I could even think of comparing this event to. I must stress that the reason I got the chance to attend this amazing concert is the JWFan community, and, specifically, @PHOENIX who was nice enough not only to get me a ticket for the event, but also got me an even better seat in the front row of one of the central boxes, just minutes before the start of the show! And to think that months before this I was so pessimistic about getting to attend the concert in the first place, seeing as I had heard of the announcement too late, and everything was sold out, except for some speculative, ridiculously priced tickets from reseller sites. I'm eternally grateful to all you guys for giving me a reason to be in London that evening! Here's the view from the Rausing Circle, by the way. I was so amazed when I went through the doorway and saw this: Couldn't fit all of the hall in one shot, so had to do a panorama. Also, since everyone is sharing recordings, I thought I'd give you mine as well, which is of the Theme from Jurassic Park. I must warn you that it's not of a good quality - I think I covered one or both mics at some points, so it's really more of a memorabilia for myself: Chewy, Omen II, Holko and 6 others 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Locrius 97 Posted October 28, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2018 Man, Phil Cobb on trumpet is such a worthy successor to Maurice Murphy. He sounded great in SOLO too. ricsim88, Bespin and aj_vader 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delgibbons 61 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 4 hours ago, peanutismint said: I would love to hear that! Can I get a link too please? I reallt enjoyed Close Encounters. I'd never heard that live before. Something about it coming in from the complete nothingness of the silence of the Albert Hall - spinechilling. There was a lot of Star Wars, not that I'm complaining, but I'd have loved to have heard something a bit newer, like Rey's theme perhaps, or some of the terrifying First Order stuff from TFA. Also, Home Alone?! Haha sorry, don't want to look a gifthorse in the mouth but it's one of my favourites and it's just SO John. . The royal phil are doing home alone to picture on the 22nd december... ... At the royal albert hall 😁😊 Not many tickets left tho 😢 peanutismint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanutismint 3 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Thanks for the tip! It is one of my fave movies and scores, but A) I really hate going to London and B) last time I went to a movie-with-orchestra thing at the Albert Hall (it was Raiders) they had the movie audio WAAAAY too quiet, so much so that they had to put subtitles on, and it kinda ruined the experience for me. I mean, I know we were all there to hear JW's fantastic score first and foremost, but it looked like they massively under-specced the PA for the event or something because yeah, the dialogue/SFX were almost awkwardly quiet in comparison.... So I'm not sure I want to chance coming all the way to the hall again and have it be the same setup..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 A movie with a live orchestra... it’s for me like... like this actual craze for LPs... I simply wonder.... why??? I don’t understand. WDG01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricsim88 244 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Locrius said: Man, Phil Cobb on trumpet is such a worthy successor to Maurice Murphy. He sounded great in SOLO too. He's an incredible player for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Bespin said: I simply wonder.... why??? Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 5 hours ago, Bespin said: A movie with a live orchestra... it’s for me like... like this actual craze for LPs... I simply wonder.... why??? I don’t understand. Going back to the very beginnings of cinema? Karol Jim Ware 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 28, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2018 One quick comment about the concert. Brossé conducted Jurassic Park in its proper tempo. If there had been a choir it would have been a perfect rendition. _deleted_, Alan and peanutismint 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 I have heard the first half of the concert, and it is amazing how professional the LSO is. Everything sounds awesome. Even if the tempo is different to what we are accustomed, is sounds good unlike with other orchestras. The instruments sound great, I suppose they are high quality crafted too. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Tempo's felt fine IMO. aj_vader and Locrius 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delgibbons 61 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 7 hours ago, peanutismint said: Thanks for the tip! It is one of my fave movies and scores, but A) I really hate going to London and B) last time I went to a movie-with-orchestra thing at the Albert Hall (it was Raiders) they had the movie audio WAAAAY too quiet, so much so that they had to put subtitles on, and it kinda ruined the experience for me. I mean, I know we were all there to hear JW's fantastic score first and foremost, but it looked like they massively under-specced the PA for the event or something because yeah, the dialogue/SFX were almost awkwardly quiet in comparison.... So I'm not sure I want to chance coming all the way to the hall again and have it be the same setup..... I have been to a few there and I would say it depends where one is sitting. ET you couldn't hear dialogue too well... Jurassic Park was fine. I think it is the PA setup and the weird shape of the hall. 😁 peanutismint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Han Solo and the Princess conducted by Brosse : 7 minutes long Han Solo and the Princess Conducted by Williams (Tanglewood): 5 minutes long The difference is HUGE and they sound completely different. This is why I always want to hear a Williams conducted version as a reference for those concert pieces You never know how a "re-recording" might differ from his intended version on those compilation albums and when Williams never recorded it before himself your not really sure what your getting (example HP Children suite if we didn't have the leaked sessions) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Personally, and being fairly unfamiliar with the rare Williams version, I really liked the LSO tempo of the piece and might end up preferring it. It was a highlight of the concert for me. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 the Williams one sounds a lot tighter and like the real ESB finale in the last part .I think the LSO one is agonizingly slow but sounds nice in some parts This one is Film Night version Williams in May but the best one of the 4 recordings so far is the August performance in Tanglewood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St0rMl0rD 155 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 So, it looks like John is doing better and will be flying home to LA tomorrow, I hear peanutismint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 16 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: I can understand that. Just out of curiosity, Jay, do you enjoy attending non-film music orchestral concerts? As for myself, I go to way more concerts with classical music than film music. I have never been to a classic music concert, and in fact have never actively listened to classical music ever in my life. Not my thing. I have been to plenty of pop and rock concerts in my life, mostly in my 20s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ocelot 508 Posted October 28, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2018 Here's a vid of Han Solo and the Princess from th other night. Sorry for the quality and placement, but I had to put my phone on my chest so as not to be seen. Could have been higher so you see the orchestra more but I had to figure out how high I could go without getting slapped by one of the ushers. BTW @Stefancos is in the whole video as I know where his seat was compared to me Jurassic Shark, Holko and Ricard 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,080 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 34 minutes ago, Jay said: I have never been to a classic music concert, and in fact have never actively listened to classical music ever in my life. Not my thing. I have been to plenty of pop and rock concerts in my life, mostly in my 20s. Personally, I got into classical music through orchestral film music. As you know, "classical music" is a big bag of various kinds of styles, but there's plenty of classical music that's reminiscent of film music - perhaps you just haven't heard the right works yet? You're missing out on a world of awesomeness; the challenge is to navigate through the immense body of music to find the works that resonate with you. _deleted_ and ocelot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelot 508 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 57 minutes ago, King Mark said: Han Solo and the Princess conducted by Brosse : 7 minutes long Han Solo and the Princess Conducted by Williams (Tanglewood): 5 minutes long The difference is HUGE and they sound completely different. This is why I always want to hear a Williams conducted version as a reference for those concert pieces You never know how a "re-recording" might differ from his intended version on those compilation albums and when Williams never recorded it before himself your not really sure what your getting (example HP Children suite if we didn't have the leaked sessions) Do you always prefer the Williams version? I only ask because sometimes I do not like the way he conducts his own pieces live. It's the same when I listen to old recordings of Rachmaninoff conducting his own symphonies or playing his own piano concertos. I prefer other people's conducting and playing, but they are still some of my favorite pieces int he world. Like the opening of the Han Solo and the Princess from Tanglewood sounds very sketchy. Out of tune, and they aren't together plus too fast that you almost feel there is a triplet figure in there (for me). It's all preference in the end. However, when it comes to recordings, somehow I seem to pretty much always prefer the Williams versions. 4 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Personally, I got into classical music through orchestral film music. As you know, "classical music" is a big bag of various kinds of styles, but there's plenty of classical music that's reminiscent of film music - perhaps you just haven't heard the right works yet? You're missing out on a world of awesomeness; the challenge is to navigate through the immense body of music to find the works that resonate with you. Very true Jurassic Shark and _deleted_ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omen II 1,235 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 With all the talk in one of the other threads about misprints in the programme, did anyone else spot the mistake in the article Ten Things You Probably Didn't Know About John Williams on pages 12 and 13? The article claims incorrectly that John Williams recorded the score for Jurassic Park with the LSO. The article itself is apparently courtesy of the film journal 'Little White Lies' and they do have previous for getting their facts about John Williams wrong in the Royal Albert Hall's programmes. In the programme for Jurassic Park In Concert at the same venue last month, another article taken from the same journal claimed that the first score that John Williams recorded with the LSO was The Towering Inferno. Stop getting John Williams wrong! However I loved Mike Matessino's article about John Williams's long association with London and more specifically with the London Symphony Orchestra. It contained a lot of fascinating information I did not know, for example that he attended the scoring sessions for Battle of Britain and met William Walton (he also mentioned this at the talk earlier in the day). One minor omission from Mike's article was that John Williams also conducted some of the Filmharmonic '85 concert given by the London Symphony Orchestra at the Royal Albert Hall in November 1985 (the article moves straight from Return of the Jedi to the 1996 Barbican concerts). Also I understand that Williams conducted two concerts in the Barbican Centre's Sculpture Court as part of its Summer Pops series in August 1982 (the article mentions a concert), although perhaps it was two performances of the same concert. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,080 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Omen II said: The article claims incorrectly that John Williams recorded the score for Jurassic Park with the LSO. I bet you didn't know that! Omen II 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelot 508 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Omen II said: (the article moves straight from Return of the Jedi to the 1996 Barbican concerts I went to the Barbican concert! Was it 96?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanutismint 3 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 5 hours ago, Stefancos said: One quick comment about the concert. Brossé conducted Jurassic Park in its proper tempo. If there had been a choir it would have been a perfect rendition. Yep I missed the choir, too. I actually half hoped they might have brought one out (I noticed they left space for one) but no such luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,080 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, Omen II said: It contained a lot of fascinating information I did not know, for example that he attended the scoring sessions for Battle of Britain and met William Walton (he also mentioned this at the talk earlier in the day). That's an awesome piece of info! Delgibbons 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 41 minutes ago, ocelot said: Do you always prefer the Williams version? I only ask because sometimes I do not like the way he conducts his own pieces live. it's true .He seems to get it spot on on the OST but live versions often don't sound as good For example in concert JP theme always too fast, Rebellion is Reborn and and Adventures of Han way too slow and none of the pieces he conducts in concert ever sound as good as the OST .Maybe he works differently in a recording studio to get exactly what he wants In the case of Han and the Princess I think Tanglewood is the best one and probably closest to his intention. I can't imagine he'd stretch it out 7 minutes like Brosse for an album recording Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,080 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, King Mark said: For example in concert JP theme always too fast, Rebellion is Reborn and and Adventures of Han way too slow and none of the pieces ever sound as good as the OST Well, for the OSTs they have the possibility to do several takes and to do edits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Are scans of the program going around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 But i reckon you can't "see" pictures of course. Ricard and peanutismint 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St0rMl0rD 155 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 If anyone has an extra printed program they'd wanna sell, I'm your man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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