Thor 7,504 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 26 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Am I the only one who finds this statement quite egocentric - she's totally dismissing his two existing concertos, which already are a gift for the repertoire and for the next generation! Two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I consider Treesong a violin concerto. A concerto doesn't need to have the word "concerto" in its title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 685 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I see that very much as two concerti as well. I love both, and in fact I'd love to hear Mutter have a go on the 1974 concerto – an emotional and well-crafted work, easily one of his best concert works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt S. 493 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 On 10/2/2019 at 10:24 AM, crocodile said: Poor Gil Shaham though... Williams doesn't even remember that he recorded Remembrances with him back in 1998... Karol He also recorded it with the Boston Pops, with concertmaster Tamara Smirnova as soloist for the Williams on Williams album in 1995. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Mark 3,631 Posted October 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2019 Anyways Williams put a lot of work into this. I don't think any of the performances are better than the OST versions but they should be taken as something completely separate and we should be grateful to have this album it's better than another compilation with the same thing we heard a thousand times like the Dudamel c.d. Holko, Matt S., crlbrg and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt S. 493 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, King Mark said: it's better than another compilation with the same thing we heard a thousand times like the Dudamel c.d. I agree with you, but thankfully it wasn't a matter of getting "one or the other." I for one am thrilled that Deutsche Grammophone saw fit to release BOTH in the same year. Hopefully both are big sellers for the label, and they're open to more. crlbrg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Regular c.d. is 15$, deluxe is 30$...another factor to consider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 The Deluxe is worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 3 hours ago, King Mark said: Regular c.d. is 15$, deluxe is 30$...another factor to consider The deluxe edition is quite cheap at Europadisc and Presto Music! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 On 9/29/2019 at 1:06 PM, Thor said: I don't own those either, but I sampled them back in the day. I feel the other way around. First of all, I prefer Perlman over Mutter in general. I do like many of Perlie's classical recordings - his Sibelius violin concerto on EMI is a particular favorite. On 9/29/2019 at 1:06 PM, Thor said: I'm not generally drawn to Williams compilations that just contain 90% -100% of his overplayed 'evergreens'. I hear you, but the thing is that many of these new arrangements are so different from the originals. Btw, if you want to hear a great classical Mutter recording, check out her first take on Brahms' violin concerto. She's on fire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Thanks for the recommendations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 10 hours ago, King Mark said: Regular c.d. is 15$, deluxe is 30$...another factor to consider I paid about $16 for the Deluxe. And besides, the new climax of Leia's Theme is worth $30 on its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 I'll buy it on amazon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Why, if it's cheaper somewhere else? Europadisc and Presto Music even have sturdier packaging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 On Amazon.co.uk both versions cost exactly the same (£12.99) which, coupled with nearly identical cover art, makes it incredibly confusing. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 It's not that hard - just go for the one named The Deluxe Edition! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 16 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: It's not that hard - just go for the one named The Deluxe Edition! Yeah... Karol Smeltington and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Let's hope they don't send the wrong item then, when ordering the deluxe edition! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Obviously, you can differentiate between them if you look closely at the artwork and/or check tracklist. But I bet a lot of people will get confused. For some reason, I thought the regular edition will have a blue cover like the one on the early single releases on Spotify months ago. And there is absolutely no reason to buy a regular edition from them...unless of course you're bothered about the DVD-sized packaging. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 On 10/5/2019 at 12:07 AM, Matt S. said: He also recorded it with the Boston Pops, with concertmaster Tamara Smirnova as soloist for the Williams on Williams album in 1995. But I guess Williams meant that he found it gratifying that Mutter would resurrect it along with the main theme after so many years. It almost seems like he prefers Remembrances over the main theme. And it has been nearly two decades since he himself re-recorded it with a soloist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Well, didn't he recommend for Spielberg to use Remembrances as the main theme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Well, I definitely prefer Remembrances. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 29 minutes ago, crocodile said: Well, I definitely prefer Remembrances. Karol Same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Sayuri's Theme is bliss! Love the section starting at 2:34 which is reminiscent of parts of James Newton Howard's The Hunger Games: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igger6 894 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 My CD/DVD is finally here! Anyone else think the awkward jump from the A section of Hedwig's Theme to the Nimbus Two Thousand material in the concert version has been bugging Williams for eighteen years, and that's why he wrote those few bars of transitional fiddling for ASM's version? Not sure how that could work for the full orchestra, but I'd love to see him try one of his trademark unannounced arrangement switcheroos... Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Seems like he moved the segment here @3:00 and expanded it as a connector to the other material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,419 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 oh my goodness, Yoda's Theme on this album is just what dreams are made of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastoEls 563 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 22 hours ago, Bellosh said: oh my goodness, Yoda's Theme on this album is just what dreams are made of. The whole album is that to me! Bellosh and lairdo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 On 8/31/2019 at 11:09 AM, Thor said: I have problems whenever more 'clean-shaven' themes are rearranged with lots of ornamentation. What about ornamentation in jazz, do you like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 27 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: What about ornamentation in jazz, do you like that? A bit more, yes. I like the Terry Trotter/STAR WARS album, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 All this is played on a Stradivarius violin right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastoEls 563 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 3 hours ago, King Mark said: All this is played on a Stradivarius violin right? She’s got two, hasn’t she? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 No idea is she has two or not, but she spoke a little bit about the Stradivirius in the concert, apparently hers is from 1710. Or was that from the DVD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lairdo 726 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 8 hours ago, GlastoEls said: She’s got two, hasn’t she? Yes, she has two Stradivariuses. One from 1703 (her first Strad), and the main one she plays from 1710 as noted above. It's called the "Lord Dunn–Raven Stradivarius." She acquired it in in the early 80's. This page has a history of the violin and has references to back up the claims of ownership. https://tarisio.com/cozio-archive/property/?ID=41222 The page also has a front and back image of the violin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastoEls 563 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 hour ago, lairdo said: Yes, she has two Stradivariuses. One from 1703 (her first Strad), and the main one she plays from 1710 as noted above. It's called the "Lord Dunn–Raven Stradivarius." She acquired it in in the early 80's. This page has a history of the violin and has references to back up the claims of ownership. https://tarisio.com/cozio-archive/property/?ID=41222 The page also has a front and back image of the violin. Wow, that’s really fascinating - had no idea of the provenance. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thor 7,504 Posted October 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2019 Marian Schedenig reviews the album on Celluloid Tunes (in English): http://celluloidtunes.no/across-the-stars-anne-sophie-mutter-john-williams/ The Illustrious Jerry, Falstaft, pete and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 I listened to this more carefully .The parts I don't like is when the music starts meandering randomly and sound almost like improvisation. Sometimes it's quite long segments like in Hedwig's Theme or The Duel ( 2.30 to 3.40 of that track) .I feel that brings down some of the pieces a lot as it adds nothing interesting and doesn't sound very musical either Also the Far and Away track is very similar to the one on Cinema Serenade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 13 hours ago, King Mark said: I listened to this more carefully .The parts I don't like is when the music starts meandering randomly and sound almost like improvisation. Sometimes it's quite long segments like in Hedwig's Theme or The Duel ( 2.30 to 3.40 of that track) .I feel that brings down some of the pieces a lot as it adds nothing interesting and doesn't sound very musical either In other words: You don't like cadenzas. You won't enjoy most solo violin (with or without ensemble/orchestra) repertoire out there. 13 hours ago, King Mark said: Also the Far and Away track is very similar to the one on Cinema Serenade The beginning is. Then it goes into an extensive cadenza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I have been listening to this here and there while Abbey Road (the other purchase I paired it with, came out on the same day) overpowered my commutes completely, and I really like it! Favourites so far are Rey, Hedwig!, Donnybrook Fair, NIGHT JOURNEYS!, the Duel (which I still don't quite understand how it became THE Tintin piece lately, but I like this version very much), Princess Leia and Prayer for Peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Five Tones 302 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Heads up fellow Canadians (not sure how this is being broadcast for other regions): https://www.cineplex.com/Movie/across-the-stars-annesophie-mutter-john-williams Cineplex Events and C Major Entertainment present Across the Stars for a Limited Engagement Beginning November 30 Acclaimed violinist Anne-Sophie Mutter performs the Oscar Award-winning Music of John Williams in Cineplex Theatres Toronto, ON, (TSX: CGX), October 29, 2019 - Beginning November 30, Cineplex Events and C Major Entertainment present Across the Stars in 28 Cineplex theatres across Canada. The cinematic event features an outstanding program of music from Oscar Award-winner John Williams, performed by acclaimed violinist Anne-Sophie Mutter and the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra in the dream-like scenery of Munich Königsplatz. Anne-Sophie Mutter and John Williams have been close friends for many years, which imbues this project with a truly special meaning. Mutter explains, “Most of the works I perform with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra in Munich have been especially arranged for me – the pieces are absolutely new in this form and are performed at this concert for the very first time!" The program includes pieces from Star Wars, Harry Potter, Schindler’s List, Harry Potter, E.T., The Witches of Eastwick, Indiana Jones and more. Across the Stars will be screening at select Cineplex theatres for a limited engagement beginning November 30. For participating locations, showtimes and tickets, visit Cineplex.com/Events. Sign up for Cineplex Events' monthly newsletter to receive previews to upcoming Events Cinema programming, exclusive interviews, contests and more. Ricard and David Story 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lairdo 726 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 7 hours ago, The Five Tones said: Cineplex Events and C Major Entertainment present Across the Stars for a Limited Engagement Beginning November 30 Fascinating! This bodes well for a Blu-Ray/DVD release of the concert too. (Although I really want the concert from Tanglewood.) Oh heck, I want them both! rpvee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,109 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, lairdo said: Fascinating! This bodes well for a Blu-Ray/DVD release of the concert too. (Although I really want the concert from Tanglewood.) Oh heck, I want them both! It would be cool if they did a cd release of it as well with the blu ray DVD when it happens. Because of Witches of Eastwick. Let's see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Wan 65 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 17 hours ago, lairdo said: Fascinating! This bodes well for a Blu-Ray/DVD release of the concert too. (Although I really want the concert from Tanglewood.) Oh heck, I want them both! Since C Major Entertainment has already released another John Williams' concert on DVD and BluRay it is possible! https://www.cmajor-entertainment.com/movie/a-john-williams-celebration-730308/ https://www.cmajor-entertainment.com/movie/a-john-williams-celebration-730404/ And they have the following two programs for licensing on their website: https://www.cmajor-entertainment.com/movie/la-opening-gala-2014-john-williams-celebration-9153/ https://www.cmajor-entertainment.com/movie/across-the-stars-anne-sophie-mutter-john-williams-8709/ They have already release the first one, so I think there is a big chance they will release the second one too! lairdo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lairdo 726 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 22 hours ago, Amer said: It would be cool if they did a cd release of it as well with the blu ray DVD when it happens. Because of Witches of Eastwick. Let's see. Yes for sure, but I somehow doubt that will happen as it is basically an overlap in the same format as the DG album. Also, I suspect ASM cannot appear on any CD label as a headliner other than DG. However, if we get the Blu-Ray, we should be able to get an uncompressed version of Witches off the audio track. Amer and Disco Stu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 FYI for you vinyl fans... Available for pre-order with estimated delivery November 29th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 They should have combined the LP printing with the front cover and superimposed purple pom-pom ASM on top of a Death Star/John Williams' bald head hybrid. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,440 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 So........... this is a vinyl with JUST the Star Wars tunes?? Waaaaaaaat. All this "collectible" JW/ASM vinyl, each of it incomplete in its own special way, is a colossal shitshow!!!! Thanks douche grammophon!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 isn't Leia's Theme on the Deluxe Edition .Maybe they mean Han Solo and the Princess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lairdo 726 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I guess the collectible part is that the disc is etched to look like the Death Star and only has the Star Wars tracks from the Deluxe Edition CD? Odd that the DG did not put up the track list. I found a more complete description at "Rough Trade." "Legendary film composer John Williams conducts five exceptional movie themes from the world-famous Star Wars saga in stunning new adaptations written especially for his superstar violinist friend and collaborator Anne-Sophie Mutter. The music ranges from “Yoda’s Theme” from The Empire Strikes Back and “Luke and Leia” from Return of the Jedi to more recent pieces such as “Across the Stars” from Attack of the Clones and “Rey’s Theme” from The Force Awakens. This unique 12” combines all the Star Wars tracks from the album Across the Stars, with the exclusive vinyl release of “Princess Leia’s Theme” from A New Hope. The b-side with an artfully engraved image of the Death Star." So, one side of the disc is these 5 items: Across the Stars, Yoda's Theme, Princess Leia's Theme, Luke & Leia, and Rey's Theme. The other side is just an image. Limited edition 3000 copies timed to Black Friday. My take on this is that if this helps make the collaboration a success, and it leads to a 2nd album, a new violin concerto and even a tour of Ms. Mutter (as she has alluded to possibly doing in 2-3 years), then DG should continue. I do agree for anyone wanting to build a deluxe edition on LP though that buying the three LP sets is a poor experience especially since this release would double 4 tracks with the original one - and still there would be a gap for the Chairman's Waltz and the Munich piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,440 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Yeah I would actually buy the LP if they released one with everything on it. I'm enjoying the Deluxe Edition CD very much. I guess they're trying to create a Star Wars collectible, to bait anyone who buys things that say "Star Wars" on them. Although... they oddly didn't print "Star Wars" on the cover and probably should have. Then again, Star Wars fans are also used to buying things that say "Special Edition" on them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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