Popular Post Jay 37,368 Posted January 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2020 Quote Alexandre Desplat has been hired to score Marvel Studios’ upcoming spy thriller Black Widow. The film is directed by Cate Shortland (Lore, Somersault) and stars Scarlett Johansson in the title role, alongside Florence Pugh, David Harbour, William Hurt, Ray Winstone, O-T Fagbenle and Rachel Weisz. Eric Pearson (Thor: Ragnarok) wrote the screenplay based on a story by Jac Schaeffer (The Hustle) and Ned Benson (The Disappearance of Eleanor Rigby). Kevin Feige (Avengers: Endgame, Black Panther, Guardians of the Galaxy, Iron Man) is producing the project. Black Widow is set to be released on May 1, 2020 by Walt Disney Pictures. http://filmmusicreporter.com/2020/01/14/alexandre-desplat-to-score-marvels-black-widow/ Molly Weasley, Bayesian, Will and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Hey! Not bad! bollemanneke and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,363 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 All of a sudden, I have a reason to care about this movie, whose trailer did nothing for me when I saw it in front of TROS! bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 A spider movie? Cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Will listen, won’t watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 NICE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi 404 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Ahhhh, good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 I can't imagine what it will sound like. Anyone have an example of superhero like theme Desplat has written? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Ooh, now I'm looking forward to it even more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Yes please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said: I can't imagine what it will sound like. Anyone have an example of superhero like theme Desplat has written? Chewy and TheUlyssesian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said: I can't imagine what it will sound like. Anyone have an example of superhero like theme Desplat has written? If this was coming out 15+ years ago, it might have sounded something like this: Now, given this character in particular, it'll probably sound something like this: Either way, I'm intrigued. Will and TheUlyssesian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 I don't know if full on superhero is what they'll go for here, since I do hear it being described as a spy film a lot. Though being that it's presumably a stylistic continuation of TWS, I guess we could have our one heroic fanfare. Plus, I think just about every MCU score has like a proper hero theme, so I'm not sure what I'm doubting here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, KK said: If this was coming out 15+ years ago, it might have sounded something like this: This theme was what I thought of but a little more “muscular” here Still not really Black Widow, though...I could see him doing some noble hero theme for this a la Argo or Unbroken, though. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, HunterTech said: I don't know if full on superhero is what they'll go for here, since I do hear it being described as a spy film a lot. Though being that it's presumably a stylistic continuation of TWS, I guess we could have our one heroic fanfare. Plus, I think just about every MCU score has like a proper hero theme, so I'm not sure what I'm doubting here. Every solo hero gets a theme in Marvel - Cap, Thor (3 of them), Iron Man (3 of them), Dr. Strange, Spiederman, Black Panther, Captain Marvel. So I am sure Widow will get a superhero theme too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 Silvestri has already given her a theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Which Desplat will not use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,465 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Don't know about the theme, but I guess the action music will sound like Valerian. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Stefancos said: Which Desplat will not use. Certainly not, yea Just now, Edmilson said: Don't know about the theme, but I guess the action music will sound like Valerian. Cremeritis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,465 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Actually it isn't, we posted different tracks from the Valerian OST, and you used your example as how a Desplat super-hero theme might sound like, and I used mine as how his action music for BW might sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 I missed the "theme" word in his post when I replied. I meant it like you did, that the action music might have that flair to it. I have no idea what type of theme he'd write for Natasha, depends on what her arc is in the film really Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,363 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 I’m looking forward to this score. I like when Desplat does mainstream films. Edmilson and Matt C 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 Imagine if Desplat got Bond, and Zimmer got Black Widow! Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,391 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 This is awesome news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bayesian 1,363 Posted January 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2020 44 minutes ago, Jay said: Imagine if Desplat got Bond, and Zimmer got Black Widow! A Desplat Bond score would be classy and stylish AF. I say bring it on! A Zimmer Black Widow would perhaps involve ScarJo acting in a PR video where she gushes about how incredible the score is and how it really elevates her character and wow, what an incredible sound he wrung out of 450 string players and 2 dozen detuned concert grands. Yavar Moradi, Edmilson, Molly Weasley and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 I don't understand this movie... Spoiler The character died at the end of Phase 3 but her solo film, set years before Endgame, is the first film of Phase 4. Shouldn't this movie have come out years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 Sure, but Disney wasn't willing to pull the trigger on a big-budget female-led superhero film until Captain Marvel, for whatever reason, so now they are catching up on what they should have done after The Avengers Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,465 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 I really like Scarlett's Natasha, for me it should have been the first female led MCU movie instead of Carol Blandvers aka Craptain Marvel. As for the score, I'm surprised that they chose Desplat, since this seems to be more of a spy movie, and The Eternals seems to fit more his style. Alex's action blockbusters are usually more in the fantasy or sci fi realm (Deathly Hallows, The Golden Compass, Godzilla, Valerian, etc). If I'm not mistaken, the latest action/adventure movie he did that didn't involve fantastical elements was Firewall way back in 2006, right? Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Yea, but he's done plenty of thrillers over the years, which is probably the sound he'll draw on for this. A Desplat spy movie, at least with something more extroverted like Bond, would probably have action material along these lines: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Jay said: Sure, but Disney wasn't willing to pull the trigger on a big-budget female-led superhero film until Captain Marvel, for whatever reason, so now they are catching up on what they should have done after The Avengers There's no interesting female characters who don't already have some development in the main films. At this point they're trying to stretch the IP far enough to make something like Wanda Vision for Scarlet Witch, who had such terrible scenes in the Avengers films. Then you have this film, literally going back to when the character was alive to squeeze some juice out of Scarlett Johansson's character. Who's clamouring for any of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 MCU still knocking it out of the park with their choice of composers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi 404 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Bayesian and TheUlyssesian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 13 hours ago, Arpy said: There's no interesting female characters who don't already have some development in the main films. At this point they're trying to stretch the IP far enough to make something like Wanda Vision for Scarlet Witch, who had such terrible scenes in the Avengers films. Then you have this film, literally going back to when the character was alive to squeeze some juice out of Scarlett Johansson's character. Serious talks about a standalone Black Widow film started as soon as Scarlett was cast in Iron Man 2 (10 years ago now) and Scarlett herself has expressed interest in such a film for years now. 13 hours ago, Arpy said: Who's clamouring for any of this? They're called "fans." You may have heard of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 This is long overdue mainly because the last time the character was interesting was in The Winter Soldier. Whedon botched Black Widow in Age Of Ultron by coupling her with Banner and trying to address her back story in a film that was already far to crammed. Civil War and the last 2 Avengers films didn't really do much with her. Would be nice to actually see Nat be interesting again. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 15 minutes ago, Stefancos said: This is long overdue mainly because the last time the character was interesting was in The Winter Soldier. Whedon botched Black Widow in Age Of Ultron by coupling her with Banner and trying to address her back story in a film that was already far to crammed. Civil War and the last 2 Avengers films didn't really do much with her. Would be nice to actually see Nat be interesting again. I basically agree with you, but I will say that in Endgame she nailed her one interesting scene as a character: the one holding down the fort at Avengers HQ not long after the "5 Years Later" jump, the scene with Rogers. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Stefancos said: This is long overdue mainly because the last time the character was interesting was in The Winter Soldier. Whedon botched Black Widow in Age Of Ultron by coupling her with Banner and trying to address her back story in a film that was already far to crammed. Civil War and the last 2 Avengers films didn't really do much with her. Would be nice to actually see Nat be interesting again. I agree. She was fantastic in Winter Solder in essentially the co-lead role. Avengers is good too. All the rest of her outings are okay. Scarlett is of course a big star and marquee name but MCU hasn't exactly given her great material to work with so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Zimmer 211 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Why was Desplat fired anyway? (Rogue One) Curious Disney would hire him again (unless Marvel has final say on this?) Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 Marvel Studios and Lucasfilm have their own studio heads that manage their own cast and crew hirings and firings without someone from Disney corporate needing to intervene except in extreme cases I am sure. Like Marvel firing Gunn surely came from above Feige Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, Lord Zimmer said: Why was Desplat fired anyway? (Rogue One) Was he? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Jay said: Marvel Studios and Lucasfilm have their own studio heads that manage their own cast and crew hirings and firings without someone from Disney corporate needing to intervene except in extreme cases I am sure. Like Marvel firing Gunn surely came from above Feige Iger can make any decision with Lucasfilm and Marvel that he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,465 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 2 hours ago, crocodile said: Was he? But he wasn't, Rogue One's production schedule was so complicated that he couldn't arrange the proper time to watch, write and record the score, which is a shame. I would've been potentially more interesting than anything Gia came up, even if he, Gia, had more time. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 I was under the impression Desplat had written but not recorded the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Insider reports back then indicated there was at least some misery because Disney mandated insertion/quotes whatever of Williams stuff that Desplat refused to do, also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 11 hours ago, Edmilson said: But he wasn't, Rogue One's production schedule was so complicated that he couldn't arrange the proper time to watch, write and record the score, which is a shame. I would've been potentially more interesting than anything Gia came up, even if he, Gia, had more time. Where do you get that from? (not saying you're wrong, just that I've read differently) I've seen multiple accounts on here more along the lines of publicist's, which suggested that Desplat wanted to do his own thing, while Disney insisted that JW's themes and styles had to be respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 964 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 For one, I think the simple answer is the right one. The various reshoot and schedule changes made it impossible for him to do R1 AND Valerian. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Who turns down Star Wars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Given how it seems to piss everyone off these days? Probably a wise person. Karol Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Desplat was definitely fired. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 There were probably more reasons at play, but it seems highly unlikely that they threw at out a whole score more or less finished at the eleventh minute if it was just scheduling issues. Remember, Desplat also has a team of guys helping him out, they would have found a way to make this work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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