Jay 37,372 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, Pellaeon said: I’m 100% convinced that “The Adventures of Han” should be listened to at the end. When I’m listening to Solo I always want to begin with “Meet Han.” I absolutely 100% agree with you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 I agree, too - especially since there's not really a satisfying ending to the album program, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Right, and Meet Han functions as a strong album opener on its own. artguy360 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,515 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 1 hour ago, ChrisAfonso said: On the other hand, this way it functions as an overture, before the score proper begins. I 100% see it as an overture. I would've wanted the full end credits in the album as well, even if it is mostly recycled from previous tracks in the album. It's very underwhelming the way it is now. But, 79:59 and all that... Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 The movie should have ended on a stylish end credits animation set to Williams new theme. The blue text against star field doesn't fit the spin-offs very well without the opening crawl at the film's opening. SteveMc and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,372 Posted June 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2018 I totally agree! I think the end credits of the spinoff films should be more like MCU film end credits, where you get fun splash art for a while set to the main theme of the score, and then the rolling credits start after set to a medley of score cues or a true end credit suite if the composer wants to do one) Not Mr. Big, crumbs and MrJosh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 It's a lost art, much like concert arrangements in general. Very perplexing too. You'd think they'd relish an opportunity to present their material without regards to film edits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 They'd probably rather spend all their time working on making all the film cues be as good as possible I guess. I am so glad Williams is still doing it, his TFA end credits is still amazing to me. Horner never stopped either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 28 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: The movie should have ended on a stylish end credits animation set to Williams new theme. The blue text against star field doesn't fit the spin-offs very well without the opening crawl at the film's opening. I heard they couldn't use Williams concert arrangement due to legal reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, Fal said: I heard they couldn't use Williams concert arrangement due to legal reasons. Ahh, that makes sense. I'm guessing it has to do with the use of a different orchestra or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 23 minutes ago, Jay said: (obviously a full end credit suite would be better but neither Giacchino nor Powell really do those) Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saulocf 79 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Powell and Giacchino do it sometimes (Ice Age 2 and 3, Mars Needs Moms, Doctor Strange, Spider-Man Homecoming, Star Trek), but they seem to be the only ones doing it. I kind of like Giacchino's end credit suite in Rogue One, even if it is edited. But John Williams also did that for some of his scores (Harry Potter 3, The Last Jedi) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Don't forget these two! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTR1701 59 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 6 hours ago, Fal said: I heard they couldn't use Williams concert arrangement due to legal reasons. What legal reasons? All they had to do was pay the ASCAP fee. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 6 hours ago, saulocf said: Doctor Strange That's pretty good. But it's taken! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_A_R_T_H 24 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 like others star wars movies here, i'm looking for a complete tracklisting... do you have this ? 1m1 1M2 1M3 .... Etc etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 10 hours ago, D_A_R_T_H said: like others star wars movies here, i'm looking for a complete tracklisting... do you have this ? 1m1 1M2 1M3 .... Etc etc... The recording sessions cue list has not been made available yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breadstick Basilisk 108 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 http://www.filmtracks.com/titles/solo.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrayodiBA 517 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Unexpected of CC to give this a 5 stars. ( as an avid Powell fan, i wouldnt dare to give this a FULL 5 stars though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Phew! I'm relieved it's not the usual three stars he throws at Powell. Very well then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I tried the search function for this thread and don't want to go through 40 pages of posts so forgive me if it's been brought up before. I took my sons to see Solo (their 1st viewing, my 2nd), and I believe I detected the Imperial Suite from Rogue One in the scene where Han and Qira are attempting to escape in the space port at the beginning of the film. Not the Imperial March source music that is playing over the "PA" system there but in the soundtrack. Was I smoking crack again or did I hear a faint bit of it? Chad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miz 139 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 What an over-long review! And, now, again, I cannot read from a white page! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 And with semantic nuggets like these i still would recommend a basic 'avoid babbling bloat' writing course. And this is just a random example It's fascinating to hear Powell channel his lifelong passion for the "Star Wars" concept into his own methodology without losing the key tenants of the franchise's music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miz 139 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 He means 'tenets', not tenants. I feel like writing a relevant corrective email to Mr. Bloatpiece, but I cannot be bothered. igger6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,318 Posted June 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2018 Quote Powell follows Giacchino's lead in using both the Death Star motif (applied to a Star Destroyer here, oddly, a rare misstep in this score) lol Kasey Kockroach, Breadstick Basilisk, Evanus and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 CC got it right by this score, even if he wasn't really concise in doing so. Deserves 5 stars to me. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igger6 894 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Am I crazy, or does Val (Thandie Newton's character) have a motif in "Train Heist"? It appears twice in a row beginning at 2:18, and I'm sure I heard it in the theater several times during that sequence. To my ear, it sounds a lot like Paul Smith's main theme to 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (a.k.a. "Deep is the mighty ocean," which also works as lyrics to both themes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 26 minutes ago, igger6 said: does Val (Thandie Newton's character) have a motif in "Train Heist"? It appears twice in a row beginning at 2:18, That's it? A recurring motif needs to recur in two discrete cues. Twice in one piece of music doesn't really count, now does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,515 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 36 minutes ago, igger6 said: Am I crazy, or does Val (Thandie Newton's character) have a motif in "Train Heist"? It appears twice in a row beginning at 2:18, and I'm sure I heard it in the theater several times during that sequence. To my ear, it sounds a lot like Paul Smith's main theme to 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (a.k.a. "Deep is the mighty ocean," which also works as lyrics to both themes). I think it's based on this: It's probably an example of what Powell calls composing via "poor memory". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 On 6/15/2018 at 4:46 AM, kaseykockroach said: Phew! I'm relieved it's not the usual three stars he throws at Powell. Very well then. It might be less contentious if reviewers explained their opinion on the score but didn't actually give a star rating. If you're massively into electronic/ambient music you could be fascinated by some of the stuff he gives a frisbee to. I'd personally give Solo 4 1/2 stars. It's not perfect, but it's hard to imagine how anyone would've done a much better job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 I wasn't a fan of his The Bourne Identity at first but over the years grew quite fond of it. It's much better than it sounds. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, crocodile said: It's much better than it sounds. This is a non-sequitur! Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miz 139 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 CC can only buy into symphonic leitmotif scores, or anything that has that as its core. Anything else has little chance of impressing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 I think a lot of the members of the board are like that. I like certain atmospheric scores, but I find that the operatic aspect of the leitmotif is very cinematic indeed. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 But then there's Dennis Michael Tenney's Night of the Demons, which is the greatest score of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Stefancos said: This is a non-sequitur! Oh your poor mind, bound and limited by logic! 😆 Karol Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted June 27, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2018 I ADORE this little bit And then when it reappears at 2:40 DA DADA DADADA DADADA DADEEDADEEDADEESDFSFSFS DA DA! Kasey Kockroach, Breadstick Basilisk, Tiburon and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,289 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 One of my favorites too. This score is rad. Kasey Kockroach and Breadstick Basilisk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 4 hours ago, Muad'Dib said: I ADORE this little bit And then when it reappears at 2:40 DA DADA DADADA DADADA DADEEDADEEDADEESDFSFSFS DA DA! For some reason that bit sounded very much like Elgar to me. Which is neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 8,018 Posted June 28, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2018 Karol DarthDementous, The Illustrious Jerry, Cerebral Cortex and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I don’t enjoy that, I’m afraid. The composition could work just fine (much better) without suppressing vibrato and pushing like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrayodiBA 517 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Woww, now i got it I knew it Lando's closet tune, i knew i've heard that somewhere. And alas, it is from this famous song: And it's pretty similar, though. SteveMc and Loert 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,515 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Well, Powell did mention in an interview once that he used to hike in the Santa Monica Mountains whilst listening to Puccini on his iPod. So...not surprised to be honest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdown 238 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 8 hours ago, PrayodiBA said: Woww, now i got it I knew it Lando's closet tune, i knew i've heard that somewhere. And alas, it is from this famous song: And it's pretty similar, though. Isn't this from the Turandot opera? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Yes, but I know it from the score to The Sum of All Fears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdown 238 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 If Powell did indeed reference this opera that's one of the most amazing things ever, given the story of this Opera. It's actually really fucking smart if you think about it. Holy hell. Kasey Kockroach and SteveMc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 minute ago, mstrox said: Yes, but I know it from the score to The Sum of All Fears. how does one quantify any fears, let alone all of them, to calculate this sum in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I'd ask Tom Clancy to interpret his trash writing, but he's long dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 When in doubt, quote Puccini. (framed above ALW's piano) Loert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miz 139 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Anyone else spotted the riff from Chicken in the Pot in Spaceport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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