TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Trent B said: I simply just do not like Zimmer's Batman scores or even Man Of Steel as well as Batman Vs Superman. They are nothing but noise to me. You say Giacchino is a bore but to me I'd take Giacchino over the Zimmer of today for scores. Atleast Gia will attempt to write a theme. Better than Zimmer's fart trombones over an infernal racket of noise pollution. TSMefford and gkgyver 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Zimmer's Batman scores are a pleasant listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 New audio interview with MG where he reveals he's already written the main theme https://wmmr.com/2019/10/24/michael-giacchino-to-score-the-batman-steve-needs-to-be-there/ Quote “I’ve already written what will be theme for the movie, because I was so excited about doing it that I just sat down and did it, already. And so, Matt has that in his back pocket right now and is using it just to inspire him as he finishes writing and doing the things he has to do to prepare for directing.” Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 On 10/21/2019 at 6:24 PM, Thekthithm said: Zimmer's Batman scores are a pleasant listen. Pleasant | adj | giving a sense of happy satisfaction or enjoyment You sure about that? Fabulin and Kasey Kockroach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Didn't he already do that for Doctor Strange? Gia sure does write a lot of music without seeing the films first. What then is the difference between him and Trent Reznor or whatever his name is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 You don't need to see a film to write a theme, especially an iconic figure like Batman who you already know You need to see the film to know where the take the theme and heck, this theme could always be abandoned after he sees the first rough cut if he feels its no longer works TSMefford and Arpy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Giacchino would be better off scoring a Batman movie more in the vein of the Adam West stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 454 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 On 10/25/2019 at 3:47 PM, Jay said: You don't need to see a film to write a theme, especially an iconic figure like Batman who you already know You need to see the film to know where the take the theme and heck, this theme could always be abandoned after he sees the first rough cut if he feels its no longer works Perhaps Reeves sent him an early draft of the script and told him to write to that first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 First listen to Gia's bat music. Seems like an Imperial March ripoff? Basically just a deconstruction of it right? DrTenma and Tydirium 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 The cowl looks to big on Pattinson, looks more like Daredevil. The music is very uninteresting Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KK 3,307 Posted February 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 14, 2020 I thought the music was some generic royalty-free library music...good God Gia... SteveMc, MikeH and Tydirium 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 It is indeed Gia: Also, did the Bat Logo loose its head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Sounds like John Barry's Bond music, only way less capturing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,363 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 57 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said: First listen to Gia's bat music. Seems like an Imperial March ripoff? Basically just a deconstruction of it right? A moody two-note theme for Batman? That’s new and innovativ...oh wait. DrTenma 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 I was about to say. It seems we're never gonna get a full fledged Bat theme in these times. l suppose it's possible he might expound upon it, but knowing WB, it's exactly what they want. Also, it reminds me of the start of the Imperial march for whatever reason. Just the general vibe of it, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Zomg soooooo epic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydirium 1,167 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 5 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: First listen to Gia's bat music. Seems like an Imperial March ripoff? Basically just a deconstruction of it right? Well, that's the most repetitive piece of garbage I've heard in a long time. It's especially striking, coming here straight from listening to Holkenborg's new SONIC THE HEDGEHOG score (which is actually not bad, so far); if you had ever told me mere years ago that there would come a day when I like/look forward to Junkie XL's music more than Giacchino's, I'd have looked at you like you were crazy. Alas... Methinks it's not a coincidence that this this guy hasn't been nominated for an Oscar since UP... He's gotten worse. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Why have all the Batman suit emblems been so lame since 2005? What was wrong with the comic book logo? Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: Why have all the Batman suit emblems been so lame since 2005? What was wrong with the comic book logo? Not dark and disturbing enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Arpy 4,145 Posted February 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 14, 2020 Eh, it's a few seconds of a camera test, I'm not going to judge it on this. These days, people seem to judge an entire score on twenty second snippets. Fancyarcher, 1977, Kasey Kockroach and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Yup. It's become blatantly obvious to me that whatever is in the clip is the build up, rather than the actual theme. It just feels too incomplete as is, as both of Zimmer's main Bat motifs feel more complete in their simplicity. I'd wait until a proper track gets posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Who knew The Spark could also work as mood for, well, anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,457 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 I like that Gia apparently is doing a more jazzy, noirish version of Batman music, despite years of Elfman's, Goldenthal's and Zimmer's (on BvS) gothic style, and the moody cellos and two note power anthem of the Nolan trilogy. It fits Reeves' declaration that the movie will be more an investigative thriller, with a focus on Batman's detective side. But, ugh, I can imagine these four notes of the theme (if they indeed become the main theme) being repeated ad nauseum on the score, with lots of silly variations, and then a epic version with choir on the end credits. I just hope that he writes great, diversified themes for the villains, so the score won't be just this repetition of tum tum tum Tum TUM! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted February 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 14, 2020 Some kind of “analysis” of the score. https://collider.com/the-batman-michael-giacchino-score-listen-reveal/ MikeH, Fabulin and Tydirium 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said: Some kind of “analysis” of the score. https://collider.com/the-batman-michael-giacchino-score-listen-reveal/ Good Lord... Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymenard 54 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Goldenthal did it a little jazzy, it wasn't just Wagner-lite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 18 hours ago, HunterTech said: Yup. It's become blatantly obvious to me that whatever is in the clip is the build up, rather than the actual theme. It just feels too incomplete as is, as both of Zimmer's main Bat motifs feel more complete in their simplicity. I'd wait until a proper track gets posted. His Spider-Man theme is from exactly the same short, uninspired, lame cloth. I'm not convinced this isn't the actual theme. Edit: Holy shit, did I just read ROBERT PATTINSON is Batman?? Did they set out to top Batfleck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Knowing my track record, you'll say the exact same thing about the rest of it. At least Spidey has multiple sections to it, even if it remains fairly simple. As much as Gia doesn't quite have the chops to make a truly grand theme, they're never as simple as this video has it. So I'd still insist we wait and see. TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 20 hours ago, Arpy said: Eh, it's a few seconds of a camera test, I'm not going to judge it on this. These days, people seem to judge an entire score on twenty second snippets. Glad someone else said this. Good grief. The film hasn’t even started shooting yet has it? Way to write off a score before the damn movie has been made yet. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 It's typical of this forum, especially when it's a gia score. It always surprises me that people who have stated a thousand times before that they have no interest in the composer, constantly find their way into the threads to bash him. Same for Zimmer scores. Koray Savas and TSMefford 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 22 minutes ago, Arpy said: It's typical of this forum, especially when it's a gia score. It always surprises me that people who have stated a thousand times before that they have no interest in the composer, constantly find their way into the threads to bash him. Same for Zimmer scores. Because they want something better than what Zimmerchino offers to cinema/cinematic franchises now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Þekþiþm said: Because they want something better than what Zimmerchino offers to cinema/cinematic franchises now. They're complaining to the wind. To others outside of this forum it looks like a bunch of sad old people whining! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 7 hours ago, gkgyver said: Edit: Holy shit, did I just read ROBERT PATTINSON is Batman?? Did they set out to top Batfleck? Affleck wasn’t bad and Pattinson’s a better actor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 8 hours ago, TSMefford said: Glad someone else said this. Good grief. The film hasn’t even started shooting yet has it? Way to write off a score before the damn movie has been made yet. They wouldn't have released a piece of Giacchino's music if it had nothing to do with the final theme. Get real please. TSMefford, Bayesian and Tydirium 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 6 hours ago, Arpy said: To others outside of this forum it looks like a bunch of sad old people whining! Not to those who actually know that the emperor is naked. Tydirium and Holko 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 56 minutes ago, Ricard said: Not to those who actually know that the emperor is naked. Ew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 3 hours ago, gkgyver said: They wouldn't have released a piece of Giacchino's music if it had nothing to do with the final theme. Get real please. Oh I see. So when John Williams writes the teaser trailer for The Force Awakens then we should assume it’s the full-fledged, fully developed ultra final theme for The Force Awakens. You get real. My point was that there’s no way this is final or even the theme. Others have said this could easily be build up. Truth of the matter is we don’t know either way. If this is straight up “the theme” then yeah, I’m disappointed. But I’m not just going to assume that and the worst and tear the whole damn thing apart over less than 60 seconds. Also, it’s been uploaded to Watertower’s YouTube as “The Batman - Camera Test - Michael Giacchino”. Don’t you think if it was THE Main Theme that they’d upload it as such to create buzz? It’s just a trailer cue that he wrote, yes, most likely based on material he’s written. How about we not form a mob and freak out and tear apart something we’ve barely heard yet? 11 hours ago, Arpy said: It's typical of this forum, especially when it's a gia score. It always surprises me that people who have stated a thousand times before that they have no interest in the composer, constantly find their way into the threads to bash him. Same for Zimmer scores. Yeah, look I’m not a Zimmer fan, so I typically stay out of his threads. However, if I do venture into one I make sure I have heard the whole score before I comment on it. Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 We know Gia recorded the theme for Batman. That’s the only thing he has recorded so far. You are kidding yourself if you think he has written and recorded underscore for a film which is still in very early in the process. Thus it is a reasonable deduction that the music is from the theme track that Gia wrote for the director. There’s more to it sure as the Director says on Twitter. But this is from that theme track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Crap. Crap. Crap. Crap. Crap, crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 36 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said: We know Gia recorded the theme for Batman. That’s the only thing he has recorded so far. You are kidding yourself if you think he has written and recorded underscore for a film which is still in very early in the process. Thus it is a reasonable deduction that the music is from the theme track that Gia wrote for the director. There’s more to it sure as the Director says on Twitter. But this is from that theme track. Except has either Gia or Reeves said it was the theme? All that's certain is that he contributed music to a mere minute of footage, and nothing more. The fact Watertower only labels it as "Camera Test" should be telling that at the very least, that's all it is currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockdown 238 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 On 2/13/2020 at 8:16 PM, TheUlyssesian said: First listen to Gia's bat music. Seems like an Imperial March ripoff? Basically just a deconstruction of it right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 hour ago, HunterTech said: Except has either Gia or Reeves said it was the theme? All that's certain is that he contributed music to a mere minute of footage, and nothing more. The fact Watertower only labels it as "Camera Test" should be telling that at the very least, that's all it is currently. Do you think Gia wrote and recorded music for a camera test? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 What else am I supposed to go by if there's not much info currently? Sure, it's more likely this is a small sketch he had recently done, but it still fits the image pretty well. Besides, Reeves might've felt like including it to make it stand out a bit more. TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Have you heard of editing? You can edit video to music. Gia said he recorded the theme track and gave it to the director and the director has it in his backpocket if he wants to use it on set. Guess what, the director is on set right now. And he needed music to cut a costume test video. What music did he use - the one he had in his backpocket - from Gia. Is it then unreasonable to assume that this music is from the theme track Gia has recorded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Oh, it seems I completely misread you. I thought you'd said that the piece was the whole thing, not that it was from the theme itself. Apologies then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 It's more likely than not to be a portion of that demo theme, yet it's also possible what we will eventually get might not even sound like this. 8 hours ago, Ricard said: Not to those who actually know that the emperor is naked. I don't want to see JW naked, thankyou very much. TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 2 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: Have you heard of editing? You can edit video to music. Gia said he recorded the theme track and gave it to the director and the director has it in his backpocket if he wants to use it on set. Guess what, the director is on set right now. And he needed music to cut a costume test video. What music did he use - the one he had in his backpocket - from Gia. Is it then unreasonable to assume that this music is from the theme track Gia has recorded? I think I did a bad job writing my previous post. Yes, you're right, it could certainly be taken from whatever demo he wrote for Reeves, but there's people here thinking that this is IT.. This is the whole thing and should be judged as the theme. I disagree. What you're saying is certainly plausible. No argument there. My argument is that this is most likely not the full demo and may not even have a theme statement in it. We don't know enough to tear it a new one. I'd imagine that the theme demo is likely quite long and this minute could've been pulled from anywhere in it, including some sort of build up. This whole video is meant to be a massive tease. I don't think they'd reveal the theme in it's best form, or even at all this early on. All that being said, WaterTower has uploaded this minute long piece as a track on it's YouTube simply called "Camera Test". To me, that could mean this is it's own thing, separate from the demo. Giacchino could've indeed written a short little minute piece for the camera test if he was asked to. As I said, John Williams has written short little pieces for trailers in the past, separate from the film. Wouldn't be out of the question here. To others, assuming that this is the end all be all main theme and is representative of the whole score is like assuming the entire film will also me extremely dark and tinted red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 36 minutes ago, TSMefford said: I think I did a bad job writing my previous post. Yes, you're right, it could certainly be taken from whatever demo he wrote for Reeves, but there's people here thinking that this is IT.. This is the whole thing and should be judged as the theme. I disagree. What you're saying is certainly plausible. No argument there. My argument is that this is most likely not the full demo and may not even have a theme statement in it. We don't know enough to tear it a new one. I'd imagine that the theme demo is likely quite long and this minute could've been pulled from anywhere in it, including some sort of build up. This whole video is meant to be a massive tease. I don't think they'd reveal the theme in it's best form, or even at all this early on. All that being said, WaterTower has uploaded this minute long piece as a track on it's YouTube simply called "Camera Test". To me, that could mean this is it's own thing, separate from the demo. Giacchino could've indeed written a short little minute piece for the camera test if he was asked to. As I said, John Williams has written short little pieces for trailers in the past, separate from the film. Wouldn't be out of the question here. To others, assuming that this is the end all be all main theme and is representative of the whole score is like assuming the entire film will also me extremely dark and tinted red. It just doesn't seem practical. A trailer for a movie is the primary marketing tool. No kidding, studios these days spend literally 10s of millions of dollars to get the trailers right. Trailers would have the budget to impanel an orchestra, write special music for it and record it. A camera test is not that. 99% are never released because they are just that - camera tests. They are cheap, done quickly, essentially a proof of concept shown to suits. Few ever get released. Why would a studio spend money to pay a star composer to write music for a camera test and give him money to record it? The logistics don't make sense. The simplest explanation - that it is from the demo that Gia has already recorded - seems plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 Is this piece recorded by an orchestra or a synth mockup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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