Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Link, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 I can't. It's on the CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 What's his real occupation? A plummer? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 19 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: What's his real occupation? A plummer? He doesn't like talking about that either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, bollemanneke said: He doesn't like talking about that either. Well, both involve shit. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 hours ago, antovolk said: Lmaoooooo fucks sake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 This brilliant track, contrary to popular belief, is not by either Powell or Zimmer, but by Balfe I'd give the guy a chance but it's not like the Black Widow movie is gonna give him much room to stretch his legs.... A. A. Ron and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Yes, he has great talent, actually. It's just that he 'phones in it' a little too many times, given the nature of the projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 But this movie was not scored already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 They could have been planning on recording Desplat's score in April, giving them plenty of time to have it all ready for the original May 1st release date. Desplat could have been replaced because they are now planning on recording the score closer to the new release date and Desplat has other commitments then, because they didn't like his score based on mockups of what he had written, because Balfe can provide a score that is mostly synth with some solos recorded live, or any number of other reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Wait, is this Rogue One all over again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 Are you implying Rogue One and Black Widow are the only 2 times Desplat was connected to a movie, then wasn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jay said: Are you implying Rogue One and Black Widow are the only 2 times Desplat was connected to a movie, then wasn't? A Disney property. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,457 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jay said: Desplat could have been replaced because they are now planning on recording the score closer to the new release date and Desplat has other commitments then, because they didn't like his score based on mockups of what he had written, because orchestras in the USA aren't allowed to be in the same room right now and Balfe can provide a score that is mostly synth with some solos recorded live, or any number of other reasons Yeah, I guess it was probably that. And, for me, personally, this is sad. Marvel could've waited until the pandemic is over to record Desplat's score. But the fact that they are scoring it right now with mostly synths and Balfe indicates that they want the movie finished as soon as possible... so they can release it on Disney+ or something. Gosh, I hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Desplat might've been the only reason to see this film other than to oogle at Scarlett Johansson doing ridiculous stunts, now he's gone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 god damnit. Don't mind balfe, but was looking forward to Desplat. Bayesian and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 38 minutes ago, Jay said: Are you implying Rogue One and Black Widow are the only 2 times Desplat was connected to a movie, then wasn't? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 I’m just hoping Balfe is in a Kung Fu Panda mood and not a Ghost in the Shell mood A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 A shitty movie deserve a shitty composer so I guess Barf is the right choice. Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 You must be fun at parties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bilbo 3,709 Posted March 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2020 Funny enough film composers generally isn’t a topic at parties. That’s why I come here to talk about it instead. Chewy, Fabulin, crumbs and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 More of Dildo's anti-Marvel drivel. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 This is terrible! Think of all the trouble Balfe will have to go through now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 On 2/16/2020 at 11:02 AM, Þekþiþm said: Or Lorne Balfe! You just had to, didn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, gkgyver said: You just had to, didn't you? Wow! I am a Seer afterall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Link, please. I think Drax might be referring to 2:49 here. Honestly, I don't mind Balfe's score to Fallout all that much, and there are one or two tracks I kind of dig when played at the right time, but it's not all that good/creative and is mixed so very poorly in the film. Immensely dissapointed that Desplat has got the boot here, and I hate to speak too soon, but I'm pretty sure we know what we can expect from Balfe on a blockbuster superhero movie (i.e. more of the same). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2020 27 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: I think Drax might be referring to 2:49 here. No it wasn't that bit. It was 3:18 here Jurassic Shark, Bofur01 and The Illustrious Jerry 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 That's not a Balfe composition, that's "The Plot" written by Lalo Schifrin for the original TV series. Five of the six M:I films use it throughout their scores (Zimmer is the only composer who didn't bring it in) The Illustrious Jerry and Nick Parker 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jay said: That's not a Balfe composition, that's "The Plot" written by Lalo Schifrin for the original TV series. Five of the six M:I films use it throughout their scores (Zimmer is the only composer who didn't bring it in) Really? I didn't notice it until I saw Fallout. 🤷♂️ Nick Parker and Bofur01 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jay said: That's not a Balfe composition, that's "The Plot" written by Lalo Schifrin for the original TV series. Five of the six M:I films use it throughout their scores (Zimmer is the only composer who didn't bring it in) Exactly. HanZ probably didn't know about it. 13 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: it's not all that good/creative and is mixed so very poorly in the film. Too loud, you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,364 Posted March 31, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2020 Here's Schifrin's original from the 60s Here's Elfman playing with it in the opening of MI1 (0:45) Here's Giacchino using it in the opening of MI3 (0:07 and 1:39) And in MI4 (1:14): MI4 again (0:00) Here's Kraemer working it into the opening of MI5 (1:43 and 2:15) And Kraemer giving it a sinister sounding variation (3:03) and a fun one (4:38) And Kraemer giving it a martial variation (0:29) and a nice determined variation with a fun twist (1:12) and an even more determined variation (2:36) And Kraemer giving it an elongated breakdown with an awesome Middle-Eastern flair (2:20) crumbs, Arpy, Bofur01 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Hmm! Funny it didn't hook my attention until Balfe used it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 That middle eastern version from MI5 is mixed very loudly in the film All of them are very noticeable on their soundtrack albums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 To be fair, it really stuck out in MIF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt C 454 Posted March 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2020 Christ, what is with producers' obsession with Balfe? So pissed he's doing this. Desplat would've been so much better. Bilbo, Bayesian and Once 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,364 Posted March 31, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2020 29 minutes ago, Þekþiþm said: To be fair, it really stuck out in MIF. I disagree, and I also don't know why Balfe used it for a bad guy, when it was always used for the good guys before Overall I think it's funny that the one thing you found to praise about Balfe's effort was actually written by somebody else A. A. Ron, Jurassic Shark and Nick Parker 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Jay said: I disagree, and I also don't know why Balfe used it for a bad guy, when it was always used for the good guys before Overall I think it's funny that the one thing you found to praise about Balfe's effort was actually written by somebody else Well obviously it sticks out if it's the only thing I remember from that score. And I didn't know it was a Schifrin composition, I simply heard it in the movie was like "hey cool bad guy music!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bofur01 245 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Tbf, Balfe used a few times I could remember, and not as bad guy music: And not sure if it was released (surely somewhere?) but here, too: I don't think Balfe was explicitly using it as a bad guy motif in the helicopter chase anyway, it played as much for Ethan antagonising the bad guy as anything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 I was just going by what Drax said about the scene, I don't remember the scene, or anything Balfe did in the score, myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Lol I honestly thought this was a joke... Bofur01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 The big issue I have with the idea that Balfe is only here as a result of COVID-19 affecting recording schedules is this post from the start of March, which would've been made before Hollywood made any of the big choices they did: I suppose it's possible they were doing early preparations before making any proper announcements, but this feels like it had already been set in stone prior. Who knows for sure. I dig Balfe's full, mostly unused score to Ad Astra (not the selection on the OST), but that's really about it. Fallout is okayish, but I've more been disappointed by him than anything else. I'm more concerned about the fact Disney possibly might've kicked Desplat out of Hollywood, considering that's now two huge profile films he's been removed from. He'll probably still get some gigs sure, but it just sets a likely precedent, I feel. EDIT: Oh right, there was a poster released after Balfe's FB post that still had Desplat's name on it. While it could've been a contractual thing, I guess it's likely Marvel enlisted Lorne to make a few demos while trying to decide the fate of the score for the film. And now that we are in pandemic mode, they could use that as the official excuse if ever prompted about it. Is this the first time the MCU has had a score be replaced? There's probably one or two films that had different composers lined up originally, but I can't really think of any off the top of my head. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 4 hours ago, Thor said: Yes, he has great talent, actually. It's just that he 'phones in it' a little too many times, given the nature of the projects. Maybe he's only got a little bit of talent then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddddeeee 256 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 They didn't have enough time to do the whole thing, but Elfman was replacing Tyler's score on AoU. He wasn't lending a helping hand as was reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 22 minutes ago, ddddeeee said: They didn't have enough time to do the whole thing, but Elfman was replacing Tyler's score on AoU. He wasn't lending a helping hand as was reported. And yet there is a lot of Elfman stuff that wasn't used in the finished film and replaced with Tyler's material. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,457 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Indeed. I tried to study the score for Age of Ultron through the recording sessions leak that came out last year and compare it to the movie, but I gave up. It was simply a horrible, atrocious mess, mixing material from Elfman, Tyler and Silvestri (for the first movie), plus the additional composers. The funniest part is that the music editors knew that they have done their job so poorly that they drowned that horrid mess of a score in amidst the sound effects, so the music is barely listenable on the movie. But yeah, long story short Tyler recorded a full score for that film, including a new Avengers theme, Elfman wrote lots of alternates (and another Avengers theme) for almost all Tyler cues on all reels except for reel 3 (the confrontation on Klawe's ship and the Hulkbuster battle on Johannesburg), and Silvestri's material for the first film replaced here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Additional composers? I'm aware both Elfman and Tyler each had their own teams on the film, but I don't recall hearing anyone else working on the film outside of the tracked stuff. Tyler's unaltered AoU score was actually his best MCU effort, so it's disappointing it was treated poorly. Elfman's score is one of his weaker efforts from what I can recall currently, but it definitely had its moments. There's nothing great in either, but there was stuff to enjoy at the end of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,457 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, HunterTech said: Additional composers? I'm aware both Elfman and Tyler each had their own teams on the film, but I don't recall hearing anyone else working on the film outside of the tracked stuff. Tyler's unaltered AoU score was actually his best MCU effort, so it's disappointing it was treated poorly. Elfman's score is one of his weaker efforts from what I can recall currently, but it definitely had its moments. There's nothing great in either, but there was stuff to enjoy at the end of the day. I remember reading that Elfman used one or two additional composers, I guess Paul Mounsey...? I'm not exactly sure. I read that on that deceased forum dedicated to the JRPG. And in my opinion, although Tyler's Ultron score is decent and have its moments (I reallty like "Sacrifice", specially the film version), I still think it could've been better, specially when he said he was going to be inspired by Raiders of the Lost Ark. Maybe if it wasn't for so much interference by Whedon, Feige and whoever Marvel producer was on those sessions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 Tyler's part included additional music by Keith Power, Elfman's replacement included additional music by Chris Bacon, T.J. Lindgren, and Paul Mounsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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