Jay 30997 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Source: https://youtu.be/51ZeE5aN-Eo starting at 58:41 My transcript: Quote Wanted to officially let everyone know, because people ask about this all the time, now that we just put out our most recent John Williams score, that our next John Williams title is going to be the 30th Anniversary of Hook. Similar to what we did with Superman just now, we worked with Michael Matessino, this amazing producer who works really really closely with the John Williams camp to make sure all of his stuff sounds perfect. He does everything. He helped us produce new masters for this and it'll be coming out, I think for the 30th anniversary in November. That's the plan right now, we're working on artwork, nothing to share just yet, but that's coming up on the horizon Hook's 30th anniversary is December 11th, not in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 5680 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 It was nice of Mike to spit-shine the OST of Hook! Maybe someday he’ll get a crack at the full score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30997 Posted July 26, 2021 Author Share Posted July 26, 2021 This marks Mike's first foray into the world of Hook, since the previous 20th anniversary expansion from La-La Land Records was produced by Didier Deutsch. Incidentally, that was the only Spielberg/Williams collaboration to receive a specialty label release that Mike wasn't involved with, other than the SS/JW Amazing Stories episode scores released by Intrada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 6822 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 ON A LP? Sorry, on two LPs? Wait a minute, I'll check what is the current year on my calendar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 4504 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Is this just a reissue of the OST or the 2012 LLL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1020 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 It's remastered OST by Mattessino! Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30997 Posted July 26, 2021 Author Share Posted July 26, 2021 It's the original soundtrack album, at least according to the image in the main post Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 6822 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 These new LPs... It remembers me why I've stopped to update my discography, I simply got sick of adding them. mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 30997 Posted July 26, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2021 The only question I have about this release is: Will the trailer cue play at the as-recorded speed, or at the as-released OST speed? Chewy, thx99 and bollemanneke 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuartalHarmony 236 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Oh, please let this just be a precursor to a full Matessino version of the whole score, including the Prologue at the right speed in B minor for once! I missed the LLL release of Hook, so I feel like I’ve been waiting for an expanded release since 1991. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1465 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jay said: The only question I have about this release is: Will the trailer cue play at the as-recorded speed, or at the as-released OST speed? Likely neither, unless the turntable is operating at the proper speed... TownerFan and Jay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 6822 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, thx99 said: Likely neither, unless the turntable is operating at the proper speed... Don't start me on that subject.... the speed of analog supports... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 1946 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, Jay said: The only question I have about this release is: Will the trailer cue play at the as-recorded speed, or at the as-released OST speed? So if this is your only question about the release, you must know the answer to this one: Did Mike rebuild the OST using the first generation masters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 4504 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, QuartalHarmony said: Oh, please let this just be a precursor to a full Matessino version of the whole score, including the Prologue at the right speed in B minor for once! I think this is a good sign that Matessino will eventually tackle the complete score. bollemanneke and Bespin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30997 Posted July 26, 2021 Author Share Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 4:37 PM, thx99 said: Likely neither, unless the turntable is operating at the proper speed... So true! On 7/26/2021 at 4:43 PM, Chewy said: So if this is your only question about the release, you must know the answer to this one: Did Mike rebuild the OST using the first generation masters? I would speculate he rebuilt it using the tape transfers done in 2011 for the 20th Anniversary LLL project. I don't think new transfers of those tapes made in 2021 would be terribly different from the 2011 transfers, and I doubt Mondo would fund new transfers anyway, since those exist. The tapes transferred in 2011 were obviously not a complete set since some tracks on the final LLL album were pulled form the film's music stem, but that material was not on the OST album anyway, so the 2011 transfers should have everything that was on the OST. Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1404 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 This is the curse of the upsurge in vinyl... no CD! enderdrag64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bespin 6822 Posted July 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2021 I'll wait for the 78 RPM release (a box of 10 discs). Naïve Old Fart, thx99 and igger6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toillion 91 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Definitely interested in this one on vinyl. Also, he said Star Wars! wonder what that could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30997 Posted July 26, 2021 Author Share Posted July 26, 2021 At what timestamp is Star Wars mentioned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toillion 91 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Starting at 1:00:04. He say's people have been asking about Mandalorian 2 and then says the have one or two more Disney titles coming out. One being Star Wars that isn't Mandalorian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 6822 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 The Mandalorian... is NOT... Star Wars... Don't do that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30997 Posted July 26, 2021 Author Share Posted July 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, Toillion said: Starting at 1:00:04. He say's people have been asking about Mandalorian 2 and then says the have one or two more Disney titles coming out. One being Star Wars that isn't Mandalorian. Most likely Solo Expanded or Rogue One OST Toillion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 5680 Posted July 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2021 It’ll probably just be some OST reissue, but on an ancient format with an ugly cover! Chewy, Holko, May the Force be with You and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1020 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Let's keep that little fire lit. I'm manifesting a 30th Anniversary Hook, I don't know about the rest of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 6822 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 An LP release isn't quite enough to get me excited. Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 3602 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Toillion said: Starting at 1:00:04. He say's people have been asking about Mandalorian 2 and then says the have one or two more Disney titles coming out. One being Star Wars that isn't Mandalorian. Likely the Solo DE as people have been begging JP for it on social media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuartalHarmony 236 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 9 hours ago, mstrox said: It’ll probably just be some OST reissue, but on an ancient format with an ugly cover! I’m going to predict the reduced 1CD Empire OST on 8-track cassette with a free poster. Remastered by R2D2 and Wicket the Ewok. All for just 59.95 plus 94.20 postage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 2870 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Right, so I'm 100% sure LLL will do a complete version now. My no more vinyl buying policy is coming under severe pressure though. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 12615 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 It's a bit mysterious to me that Mondo would have no issues licensing a vinyl reissue of the OST but LLL wouldn't tackle a new expansion done properly by Mike M. Hypothetically, I wonder if the licensing for a complete score is just vastly more complicated, especially if it includes those rumoured early musical demos (requiring the consent of Bricusse, vocal artists, actors, etc.)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post QuartalHarmony 236 Posted July 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2021 We don’t know that LLL aren’t preparing a full release, it’s just not been announced. Like many others, I’m taking this as a cautious sign that a full release is very much in the offing. What I find odd is that the vinyl OST release has been announced before the full release - wouldn’t it normally be the other way around (as with, for example Mondo’s vinyl Superman)? I suppose it’s extremely possible that the two companies haven’t deconflicted their announcement schedules. Mark Chewy, blondheim and bollemanneke 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 5680 Posted July 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2021 Personally I took this as confirmation of work on a CD, you guys. Don’t panic. Madmartigan JC, Chewy, Holko and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 2870 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 2 hours ago, QuartalHarmony said: We don’t know that LLL aren’t preparing a full release, it’s just not been announced. Like many others, I’m taking this as a cautious sign that a full release is very much in the offing. What I find odd is that the vinyl OST release has been announced before the full release - wouldn’t it normally be the other way around (as with, for example Mondo’s vinyl Superman)? I suppose it’s extremely possible that the two companies haven’t deconflicted their announcement schedules. Mark Maybe they thought it would just be a nice thing to announce already? I mean, it's nothign to get really excited about unless you like vinyls and vinyl OST re-issues are very common. A complete LLL edition would be much more exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2308 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Oh, come on. November, really? - That is a parallel LLL release for BF confirmed!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 5801 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Looks good! Fun fact: HOOK was the last Williams score to get an LP release back when LPs were still a normal thing (rather than a hipster thing). FAR & AWAY was not on LP (except for a few pressings in Germany), and disregarding some specialty things like the original collector's JURASSIC PARK LP, subsequent scores were only on CD (and a little bit cassette) untill the vinyl resurgence. rough cut and Madmartigan JC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30997 Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 It didn't even get an LP here in the states; An LP released concurrently with the film only happened in some European countries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 5680 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Attack of the Clones was the last Star Wars movie to get a VHS release in the US. Maybe the retro media goons will get Revenge of the Sith and the Disney era films someday too. They can file them next to their vinyl records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldfingers 50 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 I don't think they will remaster the prologue at his good original speed. I'm sure it will be a simple remaster without more stuffs. The vinyls capacities can't even allow bonus tracks... I'm only curious about the new cover. Anyway, I'm sure something bigger is coming... At best, before November. At worst, at the end of the year or even worst next year... If they miss this, they will be unforgivable. On 7/26/2021 at 8:55 PM, Jay said: Hook's 30th anniversary is December 11th, not in November. Yes but November marks the 30th anniversary of the soundtrack release (November 26th, 1991). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30997 Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 47 minutes ago, Goldfingers said: November marks the 30th anniversary of the soundtrack release (November 26th, 1991). Oh snap - you're right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1020 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 I imagine that the original speed will be in the regular score presentation on the expanded release and the wonky one will stay on the OST presentation. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 6822 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Thor said: Looks good! Fun fact: HOOK was the last Williams score to get an LP release back when LPs were still a normal thing (rather than a hipster thing). FAR & AWAY was not on LP (except for a few pressings in Germany), and disregarding some specialty things like the original collector's JURASSIC PARK LP, subsequent scores were only on CD (and a little bit cassette) untill the vinyl resurgence. I miss LP short programs, they were better! Now I like when some composers add Bonuses at the end of their OSTs. Its like if they were saying: I made a shorter program, but here are some bonus tracks... insert them in the main program if you want! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1465 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 The off-speed version from the OST release has no business being anywhere on a newly-expanded release from LLL!! It was a mistake, not an artistic decision. Having said that, did the LLL 2-CD expanded version feature the off-speed version? I don’t think it did but I could be wrong. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30997 Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 On 27/07/2021 at 5:58 PM, Bespin said: I miss LP short programs, they were better! The Post is only 40 minutes On 27/07/2021 at 5:59 PM, thx99 said: did the LLL 2-CD expanded version feature the off-speed version? I don’t think it did but I could be wrong. The version in the main program, Deutsch's team took directly off the album master, so it's the wrong speed The bonus track version was a take his team found with that unique extra passage, so that tracks plays at the correct speed thx99 and Bespin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1465 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Thanks, @Jay!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30997 Posted August 16, 2021 Author Share Posted August 16, 2021 Prepare yourself mentally before reading any further Sit down if you need to Here we go Mike Matessino just posted this into the FSM thread for this release "Despite the anniversary year and the Mondo LP, for which I rebuilt the original album, if an expanded Hook is coming out on CD this year, it's news to me." https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=144686&forumID=1&archive=0 May the Force be with You, Brando, crumbs and 3 others 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 6822 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 Well, this year has only 4 ½ months left, let's see it like this.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 8023 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 ...because last time he looked, it was delayed to next year, but since then it's been brought back forward to this year? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30997 Posted August 16, 2021 Author Share Posted August 16, 2021 More from Mike Quote Quote Can you confirm if new sources have been found since the LLL release that do offer better quality? I will only say that the tape transfers from 2011 were used to create the new LP master. crumbs and Chewy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 8023 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 ... Well I guess those already had everything that was on the OST, didn't they? And there weren't transfer problems like with the Concord Raiders and ToD, right? So if those are true and if he did already complete a Hook waiting for approvals, he could have just used those scans plus the missing reels, and in reworking that into this OST release, would have only used the 2011 transfers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30997 Posted August 16, 2021 Author Share Posted August 16, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 4:48 PM, Jay said: I would speculate he rebuilt it using the tape transfers done in 2011 for the 20th Anniversary LLL project. I don't think new transfers of those tapes made in 2021 would be terribly different from the 2011 transfers, and I doubt Mondo would fund new transfers anyway, since those exist. The tapes transferred in 2011 were obviously not a complete set since some tracks on the final LLL album were pulled form the film's music stem, but that material was not on the OST album anyway, so the 2011 transfers should have everything that was on the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blondheim 1020 Posted August 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2021 I still believe. In fact, I know it's coming, even if it isn't this year. Williams knows how much we love it, Matessino knows how much we want it. We got a longer Stanley n Iris, folks. We're going to get a better Hook. So I'm just going to stay over here, speaking my desire into a conscious universe, magicking a new Hook release into being with nothing but my willpower and intention because if anybody ever wanted anything enough to will it into existence, honey, it's me and this score And that's on periodt *snap* bollemanneke, Chewy, crumbs and 5 others 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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