GlastoEls 563 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Question: my good friend is (now, after today!) a member of the Musikverein. Can he buy my tickets as a +1 with his Membership, or do we BOTH need to be Members for tomorrow’s sale? I’m sure I did the opposite in the first Vienna - I became a Member, and my wife was my +1 on the ticket order - but I can’t quite remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 If the rules haven't changed, members can buy 4 tickets for each concert during the exclusive member sales phase. After that, anyone can buy as many tickets as they like. Tickets are not personalised, so you can give your 4 "exclusive" tickets to whomever you like. GlastoEls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastoEls 563 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Just now, Marian Schedenig said: If the rules haven't changed, members can buy 4 tickets for each concert during the exclusive member sales phase. After that, anyone can buy as many tickets as they like. Tickets are not personalised, so you can give your 4 "exclusive" tickets to whomever you like. Thank you - should be same as Vienna 1 then (we assume nothing has changed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,478 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, GlastoEls said: Thank you - should be same as Vienna 1 then (we assume nothing has changed). Nothing ever changes in Vienna. ;-) GlastoEls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastoEls 563 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, BB-8 said: Nothing ever changes in Vienna. ;-) That made me smile! Seriously, what a piece of news to look forward to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 7, 2022 There's like an entire cohort of JWFan that only post in threads related to Vienna or Berlin, so I'm happy these people have reason to continue visiting the forum crlbrg, Marian Schedenig, Jurassic Shark and 5 others 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GlastoEls 563 Posted February 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: There's like an entire cohort of JWFan that only post in threads related to Vienna or Berlin, so I'm happy these people have reason to continue visiting the forum Wait until Milan is rescheduled so we can really stretch our forum-based wings! Disco Stu, bollemanneke, michael_grig and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 The Italians are gonna go nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,478 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: There's like an entire cohort of JWFan that only post in threads related to Vienna or Berlin, so I'm happy these people have reason to continue visiting the forum The Berlin thread could actually be archived, given today's news (still haven't quite grasped what is happening, and why). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Not until Jurassic Shark comments on the performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,478 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: Not until Jurassic Shark comments on the performances. You mean we are still awaiting the complete flub edition? GlastoEls and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 I mean that after we agreed that Vienna sucked, I want to know his verdict on the Berlin performances. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,478 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: I mean that after we agreed that Vienna sucked, I want to know his verdict on the Berlin performances. This may explain why JW is giving Vienna a second chance. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montague 42 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: I mean that after we agreed that Vienna sucked, I want to know his verdict on the Berlin performances. Nobody agreed that Vienna sucked. Only you two trolls did. 💩 Joni Wiljami and Gurkensalat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Well, someone had to comment on the actual content rather than how historic it all was. Excuse our finely tuned antennae. Jurassic Shark and Remco 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted February 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 7, 2022 51 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: Not until Jurassic Shark comments on the performances. 27 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I'm waiting for my copy of the deluxe edition to arrive from Europadisc, which has it at a good price: https://www.europadisc.co.uk/classical/219929/John_Williams_-_The_Berlin_Concert_(Blu-ray_Edition)_(CD_+_Bluray).htm https://www.europadisc.co.uk/classical/219927/John_Williams_-_The_Berlin_Concert.htm I've listened to the complete album once on Spotify, and my initial impression is that the tempi are good and the performances as well. There were a few unusual tempo changes and ritardandos that I'll have to get used to, but I suspect this one's going to get more rotation with me than both the Vienna album, although the Mutter arrangements are great, and the Dudamel album where the performance details are too obscured by the acoustics. 43 minutes ago, BB-8 said: This may explain why JW is giving Vienna a second chance. The negotiations were tough, but we finally agreed that he'll ask them to practice this time. bollemanneke, BB-8 and Biodome 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,478 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: The negotiations were tough, but we finally agreed that he'll ask them to practice this time. And ASM is scrapping the Hedwig runs. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apples 64 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Wonderful news! Not sure I’ll be able to attend. Managed to see him first time around in Vienna and also in Berlin so all good 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Just now, BB-8 said: I ASM I've had my suspicions for a while. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastoEls 563 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Could anyone recommend a hotel? Last time out in Vienna, stayed at the Ring hotel so a great walking distance to the hall, and for Berlin, Grimm's at Potsdamer Platz, which was perfect (nice, a bit quirky, full of Williams nerds!). Anyone know anything similar in Vienna? (Ring is closed for refurbishment it seems). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 13 hours ago, carlborg said: Well, it’s safe to say that this is the top contender for ‘Surprise of the Year’ so far… WOW! AWESOME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpvee 805 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Anyone else think this is bizarrely short notice? apples, Once and bollemanneke 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Yea rpvee and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,512 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 On a short notice to let the locals in this time! They have been discussing Williams's return for over a year, if not full two years at this point. They were obviously unwilling to commit to announcing such a star event without COVID rules in Austria being lax enough for a concert to take place, and Williams being available. I bet neither side wanted to postpone this collaboration for too long, considering Williams's age. Maybe April, June, etc. were precisely NOT a possible window, and they had to choose between settling for March a mere month prior, or waiting a year. apples and Marian Schedenig 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Oh my. I'm giving this one a pass, though. My finances are needed elsewhere this time. You lot all have a good time in March. Give John my regards. apples 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lord Montague 42 Posted February 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 7, 2022 57 minutes ago, rpvee said: Anyone else think this is bizarrely short notice? Two reasons: 1.) Corona rules, waiting as long as possible to know how many tickets they can actually sell. 2.)Timed for raining on Berlin's parade around their JW album release date. Berlin over all the years refused to invite JW for anything but open air concerts in the Waldbühne. Only after they saw how great the Vienna concert went, which the orchestra in Vienna really wanted - and they lobbied JW really long and hard to come - only then did Berlin invite JW also for such a format. And then the snobs in Berlin Phil let only their academists play in the solo winds. What a shame. Berlin deserves a bit of bad karma around their album release. In a way Vienna paved the way for JW coming to continental Europe at all. Berlin were only opportunists. Remco, apples and Taikomochi 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once 605 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 I'm really on the fence regarding buying membership... because money is really tight at the moment. Do any of you guys remember wether any decent seats were available to the general audience after the pre-sale had begun last time? (As always, apologies for my broken English!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Romão 2,274 Posted February 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 7, 2022 I have a baby on the way and he could possibly be born on those very same dates, so no chance I can make it this time apples, Jay, Amer and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Once said: I'm really on the fence regarding buying membership... because money is really tight at the moment. Do any of you guys remember wether any decent seats were available to the general audience after the pre-sale had begun last time? (As always, apologies for my broken English!) I don't think there were. If you didn't have access to the pre-sale, you were stuck with a few standing tickets or the most expensive tickets in the house (if any). I'm not 100% sure though, since I didn't want to take the gamble last time and just bought the membership. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,658 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Romão said: I have a baby on the way and he could possibly be born on those very same dates, so no chance I can make it this time An offspring is insignificant next to the power of Williams. Just kidding: Congrats on the baby. Romão and MfL85 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Romão said: I have a baby on the way and he could possibly be born on those very same dates, so no chance I can make it this time Congrats, Romão! Romão 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heritage 73 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 In Vienna it was the same as in Berlin. Both Orchestras are filled with some Academy Members. It was not only in Berlin. Has everybody see Rainer Honeck in Vienna 2020 ? On the the other way, many say, the BP is much more suitable for the Williams music because it is the better symphony orchestra. Vienna is better when it comes to play Operas etc. or play with Singers. And then there is again ASM. I did not like Violin Concertos. And the "sound the bells" is terrible. So the new program in Vienna is by far not so good as in berlin. My opinion... And ticket prices want be much higher as in berlin, because of ASM. For such a event ASM gets big money and the VP ist not like the BP a foundation. Thats more like a private Club. Remco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montague 42 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 2 hours ago, heritage said: In Vienna it was the same as in Berlin. Both Orchestras are filled with some Academy Members. It was not only in Berlin. Has everybody see Rainer Honeck in Vienna 2020 ? On the the other way, many say, the BP is much more suitable for the Williams music because it is the better symphony orchestra. Vienna is better when it comes to play Operas etc. or play with Singers. And then there is again ASM. I did not like Violin Concertos. And the "sound the bells" is terrible. So the new program in Vienna is by far not so good as in berlin. My opinion... And ticket prices want be much higher as in berlin, because of ASM. For such a event ASM gets big money and the VP ist not like the BP a foundation. Thats more like a private Club. Not quite the same. The concert master in Vienna was not Honeck (or Steude), but a regular one. The winds saw the usual senior tenured players in Vienna. Unlike Berlin. Nobody commented on such issues in Vienna. But in Berlin many insiders noticed... You saw academists in the tutti strings in Vienna. That's normal. In Berlin all the solo winds (except Wenzel Fuchs) were academists. That's just rude to JW, sorry. Berlin is not the better symphony orchestra, far from it, maybe 40 years ago, but not now. They lost their sonic identity, are now a group of super musicians that have no collective sound. Unlike Vienna who is all about the orchestra as one living organism. Also actually Vienna's style and sound is perfect for John Williams music, he said so himself. Don't forget that much of the Hollywood orchestra music tradition is based on the Viennese/Austro-Bohemian school. Korngold etc... In short, JW and Vienna Phil are a perfect match. Berlin is a very capable band, maybe more flexible than Vienna in soundscapes, they can do anything, but they need a lot of input from a über-conductor, to get that result. Otherwise it's just random and loud. Even in the classical core repertoire. Vienna on the other hand, anything classic to late romantic repertoire you throw at them, they play it making you grin right away. So perfect for JW's music. Maybe anything from Stravinsky and later on they are not so instantly great anymore. Will be interesting with the Violin concerto. Just listen to the brass groups of both orchestras. Vienna sounds perfect and well blended and balanced. Berlin not so much. Only on first sight is it paradox, that Vienna play German trumpets (softer and fuller sound) and Berlin played American trumpets (narrower and sharper sound). Williams couldn't be happier with that full sound in Vienna through all registers. The horns... not even in the same league in those concerts, sorry Sarah Willis Just listen. In Vienna the timbre is continuous from Trumpets to Horns. In Berlin it's like two different worlds. (also like in two different rooms) The solo violin repertoire is a different issue, and I agree that for the hardcore fans it might be a bit of a distraction. I personally like the variation it introduces, and also their artistic collaboration is a joy to witness. Last but not least it seems to be a great inspiration for the master, who as far as straight forward film music goes, might feel at this point in his life a bit less attracted to the known routines, due to lack of new challenges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,478 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Will JW refer to "the bad guys" in Vienna? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montague 42 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 He is a polite man. He will say "that orchestra up north, formerly known as one of the best in the world." 🥳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciarlese 250 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 To those who have a subscription: any news about the price of the tickets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Was just about to ask that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Basically. [edit] this was post by @Fabulin for the previous concert and it's the same for this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Do you guys remember how to bypass that ffiing javascript when you check out at the cart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josefsuma 9 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Does any body here need a ticket? ... they are selling pretty fast. I still can buy 3 more on my subscription so if you have any problems with buying yours, let me know. apples 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, TownerFan said: Do you guys remember how to bypass that ffiing javascript when you check out at the cart? I used a different browser (Opera) to check out after Firefox didn't work last night for the subscription. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetePan 163 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Ticket in the pocket for Saturday! What a drama website. It kept on saying I only could choose max 4 tickets, whilst I only selected 1... apples 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 27 minutes ago, fommes said: I used a different browser (Opera) to check out after Firefox didn't work last night for the subscription. All good! I had to deactivate the adblocker as it kept crashing the upload. fommes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eitam 364 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 It went rather well this time, though I lost a few precious minutes adapting to the lag time and probably missed on a better seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetePan 163 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 I know what went wrong... They also made a reservation per email for me for 4 tickets... That is why the system said I could only order max 4... Called the box office and they cancelled that reservation for me. I booked a new ticket for Sunday now, which suits better with the flight from the Netherlands... Before I cancel my Saturday ticket: if anyone is interested, you can buy it for face value. Its Parterre Row 16, seat 8. € 240,- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohlasp 0 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Do they selling standing room tickets? Like the last time (pre covid). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Is it sold out yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetePan 163 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Kohlasp said: Do they selling standing room tickets? Like the last time (pre covid). they do, but they were already sold out after a few minutes (8 euro tickets...) Just now, Mr. Breathmask said: Is it sold out yet? no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Not as crazy as I thought it would be then. Tempting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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