Faleel 5,359 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Watch the new release come out and reveal that Ken Thorne never actually did the whole score, it was Williams himself Or that Williams actually scored certain sequences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Falafel said: Watch the new release come out and reveal that Ken Thorne never actually did the whole score, it was Williams himself Or that Williams actually scored certain sequences OMG! That would change everything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,530 Posted October 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2018 Just now, Falafel said: Watch the new release come out and reveal that Ken Thorne never actually did the whole score, it was Williams himself Or that Williams actually scored certain sequences Yeah right. What's next, Williams actually wrote Chamber of Secrets? That_Bloke, Martyprod, crumbs and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Williams wrote Lando's Closet, because if it's good, it has to be Williams. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Richard said: It is a legitimate JW release. Its far more legitimate than either SOLO, or ROGUE ONE. None of these is a Williams release. LP releases also don't count. So far we got one Williams release from La-La Land which is Saving Private Ryan, the least exciting expansion ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 20 minutes ago, Incanus said: OMG! That would change everything! Well, you know, it's not entirely untrue. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,552 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 14 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: None of these is a Williams release. LP releases also don't count. So far we got one Williams release from La-La Land which is Saving Private Ryan, the least exciting expansion ever. SOLO, contains an original piece of music, by JW, so, yeah, it is a Williams release. Do LP releases count? Depends on how much of a completest one is. Although I don't collect vinyl, I'd never want to diminish anyone who does, and I'd look down on those who do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, Richard said: SOLO, contains an original piece of music, by JW, so, yeah, it is a Williams release. Okay, so the soundtrack of Wild at Heart is a Richard Strauss release? 9 minutes ago, Richard said: Do LP releases count? Depends on how much of a completest one is. Although I don't collect vinyl, I'd never want to diminish anyone who does, and I'd look down on those who do. No new music, no acknowlegdement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: Okay, so the soundtrack of Wild at Heart is a Richard Strauss release? That wasn't an original piece of music for the film. Do you not see the difference? A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 What if you guys would consider II, III and IV as partial re-recordings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Richard said: SOLO, contains an original piece of music, by JW, so, yeah, it is a Williams release. Composed and conducted by JW. So I call it a collaboration. Well that's where I put this album in JW's discography Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 18 hours ago, Disco Stu said: That wasn't an original piece of music for the film. Do you not see the difference? No. 18 hours ago, rough cut said: What if you guys would consider II, III and IV as partial re-recordings? Never! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,519 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 16 hours ago, Bespin said: Composed and conducted by JW. So I call it a collaboration. Well that's where I put this album in JW's discography Collaboration? I don't think there was any collaboration between Powell and Williams here. Williams composed a theme, and then Powell incorporated it into his score here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Like If what you think was relevant here. You're noy busy telling on an expanded release thread, you have none of them? 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: No. You don't see the difference between licensing an existing recording of an old piece of music and writing original music for a film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 22 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: You don't see the difference between licensing an existing recording of an old piece of music and writing original music for a film? Yes, I do. I was just kidding. But I still wouldn't quite consider Solo a John Williams release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Thor said: Collaboration? I don't think there was any collaboration between Powell and Williams here. Williams composed a theme, and then Powell incorporated it into his score here and there. There was indeed collaboration between Williams and Powell, as himself recounted in several interviews. He was invited at JW's house, where the Maestro demoed the material at the piano and went through the composition. Then, Williams tried out his theme scoring a couple of sequences, which were used by Powell as a sort of template for the score. As far as Superman II and III to be considered as Williams catalogue releases, well, it's a strange situation by itself. The Maestro himself didn't have any involvement whatsoever in both scores. His music was repurposed because, well, it's studio property and the producers went for a strange kind of approach rehashing almost all of his compositions for the first movie, but hired another composer to do the adaptation job. Superman III is a more substantially original work, as Ken Thorne wrote more new material, even though there are again large lift-offs from the first film's original score. So, both scores are technically speaking Williams' music rearranged/adapted by another composer. IV is another kind of beast, actually. Williams had a direct involvement--he wrote new original material for the film and went through the spotting together with Sandy Courage to decide where to use the new themes, but left basically all the scoring duties to his friend and colleague. Miguel Andrade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 https://dcanimated.com/2018/10/la-la-land-records-superman-ii-iii-track-list/ Quote DISC 1Superman II (1980) Music Composed and Conducted by Ken Thorne From Original Material Composed by John Williams 1. Preface / Villains in the Zone / Main Title March 8:23 2. Superman to Paris / Lois Climbs Tower 2:49 3. Walkie Talkies / Gelignite Bangs / Superman Saves Lift 2:10 4. Lift Into Space – Releasing the Villains 1:36 5. Orange Juice / Prison Intro / My Little Black Box 1:51 6. Ursa Flies Over Moon / Spacecraft Wrecked / Moon to Earth 4:05 7. Lex Escapes 2:07 8. Sleeping Arrangements / Relaxing at Niagara / Looks Familiar / Superman Saves Boy 3:33 9. Lex and Miss Teschmacher to Fortress / Lex Plans Partnership 2:39 10. Suspecting Lois Takes the Plunge / Clark Fumbles Rescue / Villains Land by Lake 3:37 11. Clark Exposed as Superman 3:13 12. Sheriff and Duane Meet Villains / Lovers Fly North 2:24 13. Daddy’s Rise and Fall / Flight for Flowers / East Houston Battle 3:06 14. Lovers at Dinner Table / Zod Meets General 1:38 15. Mother’s Advice 1:52 16. To Bed – Mt. Rushmore – Sweet Dreams 1:35 17. President Kneels Before Zod 1:55 18. Fight in Diner 1:06 19. TV President Resigns – Clark to Fortress 2:44 20. Return of the Green Crystal / Bored Zod 2:19 21. Non Wrecks Office 1:30 22. Aerial Battle / Zod Throws Slab / Superman Saves Spire 4:52 23. Superman Saves Petrol Tanker / Superman Battles Zod / Superman Flies Off 4:31Disc 1 Total Time: 63:35 DISC 2 1. Villains Take Lex and Lois to Fortress / School Games 3:14 2. Superman Pulls Big Switch / Superman Triumphs Over Villains 1:59 3. Sad Return 1:41 4. Lois Forgets 1:49 5. Happy Lois Back to Normal / Superman Replaces Stars and Stripes / End Title March 5:38 Total Superman II Score Time: 79:56 DISC 2 (Continued) Source Music and Songs from the Superman films Music by John Williams, Ken Thorne and Giorgio Moroder Superman: The Movie (1978) 6. Can You Read My Mind (Instrumental No. 1) 3:11 7. Sunday Meeting 1:30 8. Kansas High School 1:47 9. Kansas Kids 1:30 10. Late Night Country Music 0:53 11. Luthor’s Luau 2:50 12. Lois’ Pad 1:17 13. Desert Riff 0:23 14. Lois Car Radio 1:56 15. Kids on the Bus 1:31 16. Can You Read My Mind (Instrumental No. 2) 2:55Total Time: 19:43 Superman II (1980) 17. Honeymoon Hotel 3:17 18. Country & Western 2:12 19. East Houston Café 2:16 20. Car Radio for Ride Back 1:00 21. Diner Jukebox No. 1 2:19 22. Diner Jukebox No. 2 2:20Total Time: 13:25 Superman III (1983) 23. Colombian Storm Intro 1:10 24. Olympic Parade 0:28 25. Après Ski 1:06 26. Rock On (Marshall Crenshaw) 3:45 27. No See, No Cry (Chaka Khan) 3:20 28. They Won’t Get Me (Roger Miller) 3:22 29. Love Theme (Helen St. John) 3:18 30. Main Title March (Giorgio Moroder) 4:17Total Time: 20:46 Total source music and songs time: 53:55 Disc 2 Total Time: 68:16 DISC 3Superman III (1983) Music Composed and Conducted by Ken Thorne Original Superman Themes by John Williams 1. Main Title (The Streets of Metropolis) 5:31 2. Gus On Computer After the Cents 1:08 3. Saving the Factory – The Acid Test 6:15 4. Payday for Gus / School Gym – Earth Angel / Vulcan 1:39 5. Lana and Clark in Cornfield / Clark Rescues Ricky 2:29 6. Gus Shows the Booze / Gus Finds a Way 1:21 7. Montage 3:12 8. Colombian Storm 1:32 9. Kryptonite / Gus Down Building / Searching for Kryptonite 2:18 10. Lana and Clark on Telephone / Kryptonite Sting / Superman Affected by Kryptonite / Superman Too Late 1:50 11. Tower of Pisa / What Will It Do for Me 2:00 12. Superman and Lorelei on Statue / Superman Ruins Tanker 2:22 13. Boxes in Canyon / Drunken Superman 3:24 14. The Two Faces of Superman 2:54 15. The Struggle Within 2:29 16. The Final Victory 2:19 17. Preparing Balloons / Superman Coming / Computer 3:04 18. Rockets / Video Games / Big Missile 3:15 19. Superman Confronts Ross / Computer Takes Over / Gus Fights Ross 2:16 20. The Computer Comes Alive / Superman Leaves Computer Cave 2:35 21. Metal Vera / Computer Blows Up 2:57 22. Gus Flying With Superman 1:22 23. Diamond Sting / Thank You Superman / Superman Gus / Clark Gives Lana Diamond Ring 1:43 24. End Credits 4:29 Total Superman III Score Time: 64:21 ADDITIONAL MUSIC 25. Pay Day for Gus [Alternate] 0:49 26. Main Title (The Streets of Metropolis) [Alternate] 5:29 Disc 3 Total Time: 70:41Total Three-Disc Time: 3:24:32 The three-disc Superman II + Superman III – Expanded Archival Collection collection will be released by La-La Land Records on October 23rd, 2018 at 12noon PST. The 3000 unit limited edition title will be available directly from the La-La Land Records website. For additional information on this release, and other La-La Land Records titles, check out the label’s website. Stay tuned for further updates! Ricard and Dr. Rick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted October 5, 2018 Author Share Posted October 5, 2018 Finally additional remaining Superman: The Movie source music gets released! This is the world premiere release of "Sunday Meeting", "Late Night Country Music", "Lois' Pad", "Desert Riff", and "Kids on the Bus". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Odd choice to put S:TM source material on Disc 2! My only thought would be to keep S:TM at 2 discs vs 3 ? They've also got nice high-res images of the set! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted October 5, 2018 Author Share Posted October 5, 2018 Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,401 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 The Blue Box is incomplete! Wojo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 That is odd. Previously unreleased music from the Maestro included on disc 2 of this set? I am happy, yet confused. Why would all of those cues be included on this set and not the eventual definitive release of the Maestro’s score to Superman? Should I spend the money on this set just for all those cues.? The reason I ask is because LLL’s release of Superman IV: The Quest for Peace is available to purchase on iTunes. I am wondering if this set will also be that way. Maybe I’ll wait a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Umm marketing ..this way they make us buy this 3disc set.... I was going to buy it anyways . But I would have preferred a 3disc set of the first film. Maybe it does not fit in just three discs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 One for the books! Bryant Burnette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,373 Posted October 5, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2018 Hopefully nobody has a problem with my avatar now :p Yavar Moradi, fommes and That_Bloke 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Hopefully normal people don't care about Source music! Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Depends on the source of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 28 minutes ago, Jay said: Hopefully nobody has a problem with my avatar now :p On the contrary, I like you using recent release cover art as your avatar. It makes things feel, how do you say, up to date. 29 minutes ago, Bespin said: Hopefully normal people don't care about Source music! But Bes, what about Lapti Nek? Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted October 5, 2018 Author Share Posted October 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: I like you using recent release cover art as your avatar. It makes things feel, how do you say, up to date. Awesome, thanks for that! The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: But Bes, what about Lapti Nek? It's no source music, it was on the OST. Don't mix apples and oranges! 😝 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Just now, Bespin said: It's no source music, it was on the OST. Don't mix apples and oranges! 🙄 Okay, okay! What about the Max Rebo Band. If you can find a good clip on YouTube and then dance away! Looks like Manakin Skywalker has the best one! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 I love Williams 70s source music. Will definitely buy this, despite already having the Blue Box. Makes me wonder if the eventual individual release of Superman The Movie will contain anymore surprises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 If I understood well, I think they do a countdown... they started with IV... then it's III and II... I think I know what will be the next release! 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 I was just about to buy the OST for Superman. Should I wait, or would I even buy a possible expanded release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 So...?6. Can You Read My Mind (Instrumental No. 1) 3:117. Sunday Meeting 1:30 PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED8. Kansas High School 1:479. Kansas Kids 1:3010. Late Night Country Music 0:53 PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED11. Luthor’s Luau 2:5012. Lois’ Pad 1:17 PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED13. Desert Riff 0:23 PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED14. Lois Car Radio 1:5615. Kids on the Bus 1:31 PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED16. Can You Read My Mind (Instrumental No. 2) 2:55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Falafel said: So...?6. Can You Read My Mind (Instrumental No. 1) 3:117. Sunday Meeting 1:30 PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED8. Kansas High School 1:479. Kansas Kids 1:3010. Late Night Country Music 0:53 PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED11. Luthor’s Luau 2:5012. Lois’ Pad 1:17 PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED13. Desert Riff 0:23 PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED14. Lois Car Radio 1:5615. Kids on the Bus 1:31 PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED16. Can You Read My Mind (Instrumental No. 2) 2:55 KIDS ON THE BUS!!! OMG AT LAST!!!! 🙄 Yavar Moradi and The Illustrious Jerry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Cool! About five and a half minute of unreleased STM music. Yup, that’s probably worth money! Haha, what is wrong with us! An odd thing to include as many have pointed out, but I’m glad none the less. Since the number of times I’ve bought the Superman music isn’t quite up to the levels of Star Wars in my collection yet, I’ll cave and double dip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted October 6, 2018 Author Share Posted October 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Falafel said: So...?6. Can You Read My Mind (Instrumental No. 1) 3:117. Sunday Meeting 1:30 PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED8. Kansas High School 1:479. Kansas Kids 1:3010. Late Night Country Music 0:53 PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED11. Luthor’s Luau 2:5012. Lois’ Pad 1:17 PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED13. Desert Riff 0:23 PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED14. Lois Car Radio 1:5615. Kids on the Bus 1:31 PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED16. Can You Read My Mind (Instrumental No. 2) 2:55 9 hours ago, Jay said: Finally additional remaining Superman: The Movie source music gets released! This is the world premiere release of "Sunday Meeting", "Late Night Country Music", "Lois' Pad", "Desert Riff", and "Kids on the Bus". pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 FUCKING YES KIDS ON A BUS THAT'S MY JAM DUDE BROS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 907 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 No one saw that coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Well some unreleased source music from Williams isn't exactly a selling point for me as I own the Blue Box already. I shall pass. The Five Tones and mstrox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Incanus said: Well some unreleased source music from Williams isn't exactly a selling point for me as I own the Blue Box already. I shall pass. Not even a Organ hymn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 I feel obliged to buy this for the "new" Williams stuff, but I'm going to feel like a chump if I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 I feel like I should, but I probably won't get this. One reason is that I still can't get into the Superman score. I just can't! Wojo and Yavar Moradi 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 They should have made one cd per score and put all the source and alternates in disc 3. Splitting supes 2, and adding music from other film as bonus tracks, I don't like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted October 6, 2018 Author Share Posted October 6, 2018 The Superman II score runs 79:56 as you can see, and LLL has a 79:00 pressing restriction per disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 9 hours ago, Incanus said: I shall pass. I see what you did there. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 love those covers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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