Indy 5 to begin recording Tuesday morning!

[mrbellamy 5,718]

In a few ways, probably, yeah. 

 

The other thing is that the movie was supposed to come out this summer, anyway, and only got moved to 2023 toward the end of filming. And that was apparently a Disney release date shuffle not related to their progress or lack of progress on the movie. I think they could have theoretically finished this summer. So they're probably taking the luxury of a little more time but still just moving along. 

[D_nev 84]

On 30/6/2022 at 6:10 PM, Tom said:

Do we have concrete evidence that this is what the sessions are for or just pure speculation? 

It isn’t pure speculation but I am fairly confident that these sessions were demos only. There were only three days of sessions and you typically need far more than that for a score of this size. 
 

[LB Makes Stuff 53]

23 hours ago, Counterparts said:

God I am so not ready for a trailerized Raiders March.

Get ready for Samuel Kim to make his Epic Version.  This time, more long brass lines, a choir and a bad ostinato! 

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4 hours ago, D_nev said:

It isn’t pure speculation but I am fairly confident that these sessions were demos only. There were only three days of sessions and you typically need far more than that for a score of this size. 
 

 

The sequel trilogy was recorded in staggered batches like that. I doubt Williams could conduct an entire action score in the compressed timeline he used to.

 

The breaks between sessions give him a chance to recover and continue writing (and make whatever revisions Mangold asked for). 

[Jay 32,104]

On 03/07/2022 at 2:44 AM, Naïve Old Fart said:

A silly question, I know, but...why record a score for a film that is over 12 months from it's release date? Why so soon?

 

When they began shooting this movie in June of 2021, the film had been assigned a release date of July 29, 2022.  If they had finished filming as intended by December 2021, they would have had about 7 months of post-production time until it was released.

 

Instead, Ford got injured, a crewmember died, there might have been some covid delays as well, so by October 2021 they announced the film would be pushed back to June 2023.  They finally finishing shooting in February 2022.  7 months of post-production after that would mean there was no way it will hitting the summer of 2022, so the bigwigs had to make the call to push it to summer 2023.

 

Now, you can't just keep paying the post-production crew to now work for 16 months (from Feb 2022 to July 2023), that would inflate the budget considerably and wouldn't yield much of a different end product than the 7 months originally intended.  So the film will be in the can by September-ish of this year, and everyone involved can go on to working on other projects while Disney waits to release the finished film next summer.

 

All of this is completely normal stuff that's been happening since covid.  No Time To Die, Black Widow, Jurassic World Dominion, etc etc all had their scores recorded in the original post-production window and not a later one, and all were in the can a very long time before the film's new covid-delayed release dates arrived.

[May the Force be with You 2,032]

6 minutes ago, Jay said:

When they began shooting this movie in June of 2021, the film had been assigned a release date of July 29, 2022.  If they had finished filming as intended by December 2001

Did they plan to use a Dolorean to achieve this miracle

[Jay 32,104]

Typo fixed

[Tom 3,715]

I think Jay's analysis is 100% correct.  I also think this process requires a director with a solid vision and discipline, which I think Indy has in this case.  I do not think Lucas or JJ could leave a film sitting on a hard-drive for months and months and not mess with it.  

[Luke Skywalker 1,511]

2 hours ago, May the Force be with You said:

Did they plan to use a Dolorean to achieve this miracle

Back to the Future theme park in Westworld season 5 confirmed!

[Brando 1,065]

Oh wow, I had no idea a camera operator passed away. It says he passed away all of a sudden.

[Tom 3,715]

...

[Docteur Qui 1,459]

Jay's post is spot-on. The contracts and schedules for film crews are as numerous as they are complicated. Many people working on the film likely have work lined up for months or even years down the track, and it wouldn't make financial sense for Disney to retain their services for any longer than they were initially contracted for. Changing the scoring schedule would mean also having to pay out other post production crews for work they would lose as a result of changing the schedule, and while Disney is heavily insured for things like Ford's injury or a crew death it's still a financial hit that no business would want to take on. And then there's Williams himself, who is busier than ever with his own schedule to keep to. Keeping the production schedule tight and moving the film to next year makes the most sense for everyone involved.

[Brando 1,065]

5 hours ago, Brando said:

Oh wow, I had no idea a camera operator passed away. It says he passed away all of a sudden.

Didn’t realize how redundant my statement was earlier, I just hadn’t heard of a camera operator passing away during the shoot.

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Potentially nothing or maybe a hint at some of the score's orchestration. George Doering (a guitarist) is now listed under the music section on IMDB.

 

Seems like he's become a regular on JW's recent scores, also working on Fabelmans, The Last Jedi and The Post.

 

Yes, there is guitar in The Last Jedi!

[Taikomochi 905]

Where is the guitar in TLJ?

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I'll let @BrotherSound answer that one!

[Tom 3,715]

I don't think this is a spoiler, but one of the set photos is a big parade.  I really, really hope Williams taps into his late 70s/early 80s soul and gives us one more big parade-march piece.  

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I reckon there'll be a fun action cue blending diegetic parade music with a classic Indy action cue (in the vein of Nightclub Brawl and the band playing Anything Goes in the midst of the chaos).

 

Definitely lots of potential for Williams to have fun here!

[BB-8 1,944]

19 minutes ago, Tom said:

I don't think this is a spoiler, but one of the set photos is a big parade.  I really, really hope Williams taps into his late 70s/early 80s soul and gives us one more big parade-march piece.  

 

[DangerMotif 664]

Is he gonna be old or are they de aging him?

[Not Mr. Big 4,244]

I imagine there'll be a drawn out prologue set piece action cue 

Spoiler

Whether or not it starts at the Nazi castle or starts with the flashback with Roman soldiers 

 

[BB-8 1,944]

Or another Scherzo?

[BrotherSound 1,989]

2 hours ago, Taikomochi said:

Where is the guitar in TLJ?

In the Old Hollywood style music for the master codebreaker:

 

There’s a bit in here as well:

 

 

[Bellosh 1,953]

1 hour ago, Gibster said:

Is he gonna be old or are they de aging him?

 

dots on the face indicating that there will be some de-aging

 

[Tom 3,715]

1 hour ago, BB-8 said:

 

I could do without the bagpipes--they are killing my enthusiasm for big patriotic-type parade music.  

[Marian Schedenig 6,522]

1 hour ago, Gibster said:

Is he gonna be old or are they de aging him?

 

Perhaps both - and not necessarily in different scenes…

[Bellosh 1,953]

it's not a perhaps. they are.

[BB-8 1,944]

2 minutes ago, Tom said:

I could do without the bagpipes--they are killing my enthusiasm for big patriotic-type parade music.  

Indy's dad was Scottish?

 

When do bagpipes go on parade together with stars & stripes? Is this some kind of post WWII thingy?

[Tom 3,715]

King Mark had a thread about instruments one does not like in a score.  Not sure if mentioned it there (too lazy to check), but bagpipes are high on my list.  

[Bellosh 1,953]

Just now, Tom said:

King Mark had a thread about instruments one does not like in a score.  Not sure if mentioned it there (too lazy to check), but bagpipes are high on my list.  

 

agreed. cause they always sound the same! 

[Luke Skywalker 1,511]

2 hours ago, crumbs said:

Potentially nothing or maybe a hint at some of the score's orchestration. George Doering (a guitarist) is now listed under the music section on IMDB.

 

Seems like he's become a regular on JW's recent scores, also working on Fabelmans, The Last Jedi and The Post.

 

Yes, there is guitar in The Last Jedi!

Antonio banderas is in it playing an italian or a spaniard, Mediterranian anyway. There you have your guitar.

[Tom 3,715]

8 minutes ago, Luke Skywalker said:

Antonio banderas is in it playing an italian or a spaniard, Mediterranian anyway. There you have your guitar.

Hollywood and its stereotypes.   

[Marian Schedenig 6,522]

I already dread Sony's soundtrack promo blurb.

[pete 737]

5 hours ago, crumbs said:

Seems like he's become a regular on JW's recent scores, also working on Fabelmans, The Last Jedi and The Post.

And Lincoln, Tintin, Prisoner of Azkaban, Chamber of Secrets, The Patriot, The Phantom Menace, Sleepers, Amistad, Jurassic Park and even Close Encounters according to IMBD, as well as practically every movie released since 1977!

More about him here. His name is kind of familiar although perhaps because his name is similiar to composer George Duning?

[Edmilson 4,984]

The guy have been busy over the last four and a half decades.

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6 hours ago, Tom said:

Hollywood and its stereotypes.   

 

Par the course for orchestration in the Indy films though.

 

If a big chunk of the film takes place in the Mediterranean, guitar could be used quite liberally.

[Fabulin 3,442]

Are we sure they hired the right John Williams for the job?

Spoiler

 

[King Mark 3,225]

1 hour ago, crumbs said:

 

Par the course for orchestration in the Indy films though.

 

If a big chunk of the film takes place in the Mediterranean, guitar could be used quite liberally.

Another John Williams racist score! I hope he finishes recording it before the Washington Post  tries to cancels him for cultural appropriation.

[Tom 3,715]

1 hour ago, crumbs said:

 

Par the course for orchestration in the Indy films though.

 

If a big chunk of the film takes place in the Mediterranean, guitar could be used quite liberally.

Just a joke. 

[JTW 182]

11 hours ago, BB-8 said:

Or another Scherzo?

Scherzo for Wheelchair and Orchestra

[Cerebral Cortex 3,156]

23 hours ago, Bellosh said:

 

dots on the face indicating that there will be some de-aging

 

 

The chickenpox vaccine didn't start becoming a thing in the U.S. until 1995. Maybe Indy is looking for the cure to that.

[Taikomochi 905]

23 hours ago, BrotherSound said:

In the Old Hollywood style music for the master codebreaker:

 

There’s a bit in here as well:

 

 

Oh duh, that was obvious. Thank your for clarifying!

[Alex 2,525]

I’m craving an update on this score… anything

[Garrett 116]

41 minutes ago, Alex said:

I’m craving an update on this score… anything

Me too…

 

But for now, we can only continue speculating.

 

I’m taking it for granted that the Nazis will have a theme in this movie. So here’s a question for y’all: Will JW bring back the Nazi theme from Raiders, will he bring back the Nazi theme from Last Crusade, or will he compose a brand new Nazi theme just for this movie?

[Tom 3,715]

57 minutes ago, Alex said:

I’m craving an update on this score… anything

John Williams is still confirmed for the score!

[DangerMotif 664]

1 hour ago, Alex said:

I’m craving an update on this score… anything

You’ll have one Monday.

https://t.co/T1fBzQEu2u

[Brando 1,065]

6 minutes ago, Gibster said:

You’ll have one Monday.

https://t.co/T1fBzQEu2u

I haven't been able to listen to it fully yet, what do they say in the interview?

[Jay 32,104]

The interview doesn't air until August 29th.

[Brando 1,065]

Oh haha

[Manakin Skywalker 3,891]

1 hour ago, Brando said:

Oh haha