Manakin Skywalker 4,897 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 17 minutes ago, Falafel said: Have you tried going the "making all the videos Unlisted" route? Tried it in the past (including private) and they've still bee taken down. As YouTube can't detect copyright in these videos however, it might just work. I'll give it a try, if my account hasn't already been disabled... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,529 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 If we go by the ideology of copyright instead of the legal technicalities, taking these down is all wrong. You are technically not taking away any revenue from them by uploading sfx-filled rips until they can finally be arsed to release them properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,897 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 What I don't understand is why they're targeting me in particular. I can understand wanting to remove a channel that has 10,000+ subscribers, but my channel right now has barely any at all; certainly not nearly as much as other people uploading music they own the rights to. I'm definitely not the only person uploading unreleased music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGCJ 394 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 So, Solo isn't listed on the Disney Guild Awards site... Does this mean there wont be a FYC album? How likely is it that it will be added later? Also, Anthony Willis has 2 tracks on his Kraft-Engel page: L3's Sacrifice, and Q'ira & Han. (Both already released but it's interesting as L3's Sacrifice is part of Break-Out on the OST which I've only ever seen credited to Powell only) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 6 hours ago, CGCJ said: So, Solo isn't listed on the Disney Guild Awards site... Does this mean there wont be a FYC album? How likely is it that it will be added later? Hmmm. Don't like the look of that. I'd be very upset not to get an FYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alex 2,835 Posted November 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2018 I was John Powell’s 20,000 follower on Instagram, so he sent me a signed copy of Solo! greenturnedblue, Cerebral Cortex, Holko and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 You should send it back to have Williams sign it, too. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, Alex said: I was John Powell’s 20,000 follower on Instagram, so he sent me a signed copy of Solo! Just when you thought the cover art couldn't get any better... Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 38 minutes ago, publicist said: You should send it back to have Williams sign it, too. You’re right! I’ve been short changed here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 Solo disqualified from Oscar race. Here. Quote “Solo: A Star Wars Story,” composed by John Powell with themes by John Williams, was nixed by the board as having been entered too late for the competition (deadline was Nov. 15). Karol SteveMc, The Illustrious Jerry, Loert and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Well that stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Boycotting IX now. Thanks Disney! Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 That's a bit embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Did anyone really think Solo had a shot at scoring a nomination of any kind, though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted December 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 hour ago, John said: Did anyone really think Solo had a shot at scoring a nomination of any kind, though? Still it is a ridiculous fail that they were late to enter the paperwork. Mortifying. Will, SteveMc and Holko 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Perhaps Disney were content with the eighty other properties they're pushing that they just didn't give a shit about this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 483 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 So the best score of the year isn't getting an FYC album or even a nomination possibility? Unbelievable. Yavar Moradi, Loert and Locrius 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,287 Posted December 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2018 SteveMc, Smaug The Iron, Tiburon and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 That's a damn fine pic. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post toothless 964 Posted December 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2018 My two favorit composers as of right now ! Yavar Moradi, Loert, Will and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,515 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 I don't usually save pictures from Instagram onto my PC...but when I do, it's of John Powell and John Williams sitting together in a studio. Will and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 That picture really does warm the heart. One day we may look back on it as a "passing of the torch" moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Faleel 5,358 Posted January 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2019 SteveMc, Smaug The Iron and Will 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted January 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 15, 2019 This score's still got it. The highlight of 2018 for me. Listening to it again today was such fun. crumbs, Loert and Will 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert 475 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 So... This was composed by Gordy Haab before either John Williams or John Powell signed onto "Solo". Any conspiracy theories? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,529 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 20 hours ago, Holko said: JW steals from Gordy Haab confirmed. Laserschwert and Ollie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 964 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 This just proves that Disney NEEDS to give Haab a chance with a movie. And I trully love Powell work on Solo Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I can hear the similarities, but it just isn't close enough to be anything more than a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Arpy said: I can hear the similarities, but it just isn't close enough to be anything more than a coincidence. Seriously? It's nearly the same! That's a hell of a coincidence! Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert 475 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Arpy is obviously John Williams himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 😍 The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 To me that clip of music is just another example of Haab playing with the Star Wars musical language. It has the standard heroic sound we expect from SW music, channeled thru Haab's overly frenetic action writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Well Williams does vet all of Haab's music, so I believe. Maybe part of that track just stuck in Williams' head and he decided to elaborate upon it. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 hours ago, crumbs said: Well Williams does vet all of Haab's music, so I believe. Maybe part of that track just stuck in Williams' head and he decided to elaborate upon it. It certainly seems to have had influence. Though I feel Haab is channeling a lot of Williams here anyway. I like what I hear, though. What else has he written? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Loert 2,515 Posted February 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2019 Been trying to arrange Into the Maw for two pianos, but it is turning into a bit of a monster... https://picosong.com/wSLFb/ Will, SteveMc, Cerebral Cortex and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted February 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2019 Williams' main theme from Solo played at the Oscars to introduce Emilia Clarke to the stage. ocelot, Pieter Boelen, The Illustrious Jerry and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Well, that's...not insulting at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 The music accompanying Solo for the visual effects nomination wasn't from the OST either (sounded like the end credits fanfare). Wonder if the Academy were provided an isolated score to use during clips? Probably just used an excerpt from the Williams scores. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert 475 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 6 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: Williams' main theme from Solo played at the Oscars to introduce Emilia Clarke to the stage. Don't you mean Haab's main theme from Solo? Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 On 1/22/2019 at 7:22 AM, SteveMc said: It certainly seems to have had influence. Though I feel Haab is channeling a lot of Williams here anyway. I like what I hear, though. What else has he written? John Williams pastiche for over ten years (at least the dude has gotten better at it). He's the musical equivalent of those voice actors who pretty much exclusively impersonate celebrities that are unavailable to participate in a project for whatever reason. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 On 2/22/2019 at 1:27 PM, Loert said: Been trying to arrange Into the Maw for two pianos, but it is turning into a bit of a monster... I see what you did there! Funny guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CGCJ 394 Posted February 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2019 crumbs, DarthDementous, Kasey Kockroach and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Yes that's what it sounded to my ear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igger6 894 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 On 1/15/2019 at 4:19 AM, Laserschwert said: So... This was composed by Gordy Haab before either John Williams or John Powell signed onto "Solo". Any conspiracy theories? @Laserschwert What's your source on that timeline? When I played the (excellent) Kessel level in BF2 I was positive I could hear Solo's theme in the underscore, which I just chalked up to really great synergy by EA/Disney and unusually faithful theme adaptation by Haab. (Listening to it now, I only hear one phrase that resembles the closing phrase of the Han A theme.) To my ear, it sounds much more likely that Haab was mimicking what he'd been given for the Solo downloadable content (which dropped about nine months after the release of BF2, coinciding with the movie's release). From Variety, we know that Powell was signed for Solo in summer 2017 and Williams composed his theme in December 2017. But the "Han's Kessel Run" music only plays in the Kessel level, which was not a part of the game until the release of the DLC in May. Its inclusion on the soundtrack playlist on Haab's SoundCloud is likely just for the listening experience, not an indication of its presence on the "original" soundtrack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 18 minutes ago, igger6 said: @Laserschwert What's your source on that timeline? On 1/14/2019 at 4:13 AM, Manakin Skywalker said: According to Gordy, he actually wrote that piece of music a couple months before John was even asked to write a theme, and before Powell was even hired. He talked about it a bit on Facebook, saying he was very surprised when he heard John's theme in the cinema. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 There is an unmissable similarity for sure. And it is not just one phrase but two phrases. Maybe I have to return to my original supposition, that the Han Hero theme is so simplistic and bone-headed and so uncharacteristic of Williams that it probably was not him and lifted from this video game score. I am of course kidding but the similarity is striking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 I have to return to my original statement and say, upon more listens, that this is just a coincidence. It's close, but it doesn't have the natural cohesiveness of Williams' piece which makes those two phrases so powerful in Solo. If Williams did listen to it, then he certainly improved upon it. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,897 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 10 hours ago, igger6 said: @Laserschwert What's your source on that timeline? When I played the (excellent) Kessel level in BF2 I was positive I could hear Solo's theme in the underscore, which I just chalked up to really great synergy by EA/Disney and unusually faithful theme adaptation by Haab. (Listening to it now, I only hear one phrase that resembles the closing phrase of the Han A theme.) To my ear, it sounds much more likely that Haab was mimicking what he'd been given for the Solo downloadable content (which dropped about nine months after the release of BF2, coinciding with the movie's release). From Variety, we know that Powell was signed for Solo in summer 2017 and Williams composed his theme in December 2017. But the "Han's Kessel Run" music only plays in the Kessel level, which was not a part of the game until the release of the DLC in May. Its inclusion on the soundtrack playlist on Haab's SoundCloud is likely just for the listening experience, not an indication of its presence on the "original" soundtrack. I'd like to add that I believe there was only one set of recording sessions, so it would have potentially been recorded back in summer of 2017. I know that all of the hero themes in the game so far were all recorded way back then, including Anakin's intro and outro that were just added to the game 2 days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 I'd corroborate that the scoring sessions were probably all done in the one hit. Sadly, and some people might not realise this, but video game DLC/additional content is usually created at the same time as the game itself then WITHHELD from inclusion in the final product. All so studios can release these "bonuses" down the track, just to squeeze a few extra dollars out of consumers. It's a shitty tactic but we're talking about EA here. That's partly why they're so despised, for nurturing unethical industry practices like this (or including content on the discs but locking it behind a paywall, forcing consumers to purchase 'loot crates' or micro-transactions to access them). So it might seem off-topic but I'd wager that, despite this 'expansion pack' being made available long after the game's initial release, all the assets (including music) were likely finished at the same time as the game itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igger6 894 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Interesting. Well, thanks for the info. That certainly hoses my theory. But I agree with @Arpy. There's one very similar phrase, but Haab's music remains a snow cone to me—mildly refreshing, but ultimately devoid of flavor or nourishment. Everything tastes a little like something better you've had before, and nothing quite sticks with you. The sturm und drang of the action gets the blood going, but the melodic flourishes never last more than a few seconds. I don't think a movie soundtrack would favor him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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