Popular Post Nick Parker 3,040 Posted March 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2019 17 minutes ago, igger6 said: I don't think a movie soundtrack would favor him. Who knows, maybe a film would tighten his ass up and reign him in where it's needed. This back and forth compelled me to listen to Adventures of Han for the first time in a while...after close to a year, I have to say that this feels like the most Star Wars-y track Williams has written in a long time. SteveMc, Will, igger6 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,897 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 I think in Gordy's case a film would actually be beneficial. Right now he's scoring nothing, having to fake narrative in the music where there is none. Imagine John Williams scoring a Star Wars film without having any footage, just a few pieces of concept art. I imagine it would sound almost identical. Will and justaguy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 22 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said: I think in Gordy's case a film would actually be beneficial. Right now he's scoring nothing, having to fake narrative in the music where there is none. Imagine John Williams scoring a Star Wars film without having any footage, just a few pieces of concept art. I imagine it would sound almost identical. Not sure if I agree on the last sentence, but with your general argument, absolutely. While Haab often sounds more like pastiche than genuine passion and craft, there are enough little moments of brilliance to make me hope he gets the chance to flex his compositional muscles in a more traditional film format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 I am music illiterate and cannot read notes, but I can read and write the abcd.. stuff.. so below is my analysis Haab's theme (1st phrase - 10 notes | 2nd phrase - 9 notes) GH 1st Phrase: d# - d# f f# f c# c# f# f d# GH 2nd Phrase: d# - d# f f# g# f c# C a# Williams's theme (1st phrase - 6 notes | 2nd phrase - 8 notes) JW 1st Phrase: d# - f f# g# c# d# JW 2nd Phrase: d# d# - f f# g# f c# a# Let's put them one after another and add a little spacing GH 1st Phrase: d# - d# f f# f c# c# f# f d# GH 2nd Phrase: d# - d# f f# g# f c# C a# JW 1st Phrase: d# - f f# g# c# d# JW 2nd Phrase: d# d# - f f# g# f c# a# Now let's put them one after the other one phrase at a time GH 1st Phrase: d# - d# f f# f c# c# f# f d# JW 1st Phrase: d# - f f# g# c# d# GH 2nd Phrase: d# - d# f f# g# f c# C a# JW 2nd Phrase: d# d# - f f# g# f c# a# William's theme is a subset of Haab's theme and changes a single note! I mean of course you have to account for period and time and pitch and I am sure a lot of other musical things but note wise they are almost the same! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,897 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 So we're using different fonts now, are we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 9 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: So we're using different fonts now, are we? Ha! It was only to line up the notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Someone plagiarized there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 CC has declared this the best score of the year! http://www.filmtracks.com/awards/18.html Another nice victory for Williams after last year's sweep. The Illustrious Jerry and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Who is CC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted March 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2019 I am. The Illustrious Jerry, SteveMc, TheUlyssesian and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 He's the most celebrated film reviewer of all time. Film Score Monthly loves him. Haters hate him cuz they ain't him. Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 On March 4, 2019 at 10:18 AM, TheUlyssesian said: CC has declared this the best score of the year! http://www.filmtracks.com/awards/18.html Another nice victory for Williams after last year's sweep. Neat article. Nice to read. Thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Faleel 5,359 Posted March 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2019 The Illustrious Jerry, Remco, Falstaft and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 I loved everything John had to say, but I felt as though at times the questions seemed to be a bit too reverential to Williams. Who doesn't understand how great Williams is and wouldn't revere his influence, I want to know Powell's process, his take on the scoring process and his creative input. Richard Penna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,695 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Yes, I wish that videos like this would focus more on Powell's score and his process, rather than 'That Williams guy wrote a new theme!!!! OMG!! ?$&%*&% :D:D' I can't overstate how much I hate questions that resemble 'what was it like working with XXX?'. They just descend into praise that offers no insight. Arpy and Kasey Kockroach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,319 Posted March 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2019 Interesting, so John wrote six cues all up, some of which stayed exactly where he wrote them and others were mixed around and re-arranged for different scenes. Didn't realise it was that many! Certainly reaffirms my theory that the 'return to the village' type cue at the end was 100% Williams. It's got his fingerprints all over it. Not Mr. Big, The Illustrious Jerry, Arpy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 So we almost had a Zimmer Star Wars score! I'm so glad Powell got the job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted March 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2019 A Zimmer SW score would have been interesting but Powell was by far the best person for the job Mr. Who, Will and The Illustrious Jerry 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,319 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 I reckon this might be a Williams cue too, or at least something Williams wrote that was adapted. Something about the counterpoint here is tremendously effectively. If it's Powell reinterpreting JW then kudos to him. He absolutely nailed this score and the fact that his musical voice shines through is a real credit to his talent (especially when we know what usually happens when other composers follow in Williams' footsteps). I don't think it'd be hard to determine which cues Williams wrote, despite his themes being all over the score. Williams didn't integrate any of Powell's themes in his sketches so any cue that interpolates both composer's themes isn't from JW's hand. Isolated sections like the middle of Flying With Chewie, or cues like Return to the Village, Dice and Roll, or the one above (Falcon To Hyperspace) strike me as JW sketches that have been integrated into the score proper. Conversely, cues that feature fragments of JW's themes integrated directly with Powell's are certainly Powell cues. Will and Falstaft 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,293 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 The trumpet calls in that remind me a lot of the Force statement in “Farewell and the Trip” so wouldn’t surprise me if it was J Dubs. Obviously the pull from “Adventures of Han” in “Reminiscence Therapy” is him but was there ever speculation on this transitional melody? I kinda just started assuming it was Williams but who knows. It’d be a hell of an imitation. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,515 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 6 hours ago, crumbs said: I reckon this might be a Williams cue too, or at least something Williams wrote that was adapted. Something about the counterpoint here is tremendously effectively. If it's Powell reinterpreting JW then kudos to him. He absolutely nailed this score and the fact that his musical voice shines through is a real credit to his talent (especially when we know what usually happens when other composers follow in Williams' footsteps). That octave G in the horns at 2:59 is my favourite note from the score. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,897 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 We almost got a Hans Zimmer Star Wars score... I shutter at the thought of that. It probably would have been the first Star Wars score I'd have disliked. 1977 and ricsim88 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricsim88 244 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Nice interview. I actually really like what Powell has done. I really enjoy this score and have listened to it quite a bit. Probably more than TLJ actually... crumbs and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Wrong thread. Loert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,695 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Wha? Quote extremely strong score but, with its unnecessary bevy of new themes, a step behind its predecessors It's not as good as its predecessors because he came up with a load of new themes? CC's opinions often don't compute. (although, wrong thread...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Will 2,215 Posted March 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2019 justaguy, Loert and CGCJ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Loert 2,515 Posted April 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2019 Here's something I've been working on for the past few months, hopefully some of you on here will find it interesting! On 3/28/2019 at 11:16 PM, Will said: Only just seen this...this is awesome! crumbs, The Illustrious Jerry, Will and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Wow, great work @Loert!! I'll admit the first couple minutes of "Into the Maw" have always bordered on headache-inducing for me, and that's no less true here. But your transcription of all portions is skillful, and the Chewie's theme part in "Reminiscence Therapy" is one I really enjoyed. Your arrangement there was beautiful. Loert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CGCJ 394 Posted April 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2019 Unused alternate ending of 4m26 from Solo! 'Gang' tune by John Powell. Arranged and orchestrated by Batu Sener. The Illustrious Jerry, Smaug The Iron and Incanus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bofur01 245 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Has the track been deleted? The link is broken for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGCJ 394 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Bofur01 said: Has the track been deleted? The link is broken for me Yeah, just checked and it has been removed. 4m27 Family Stories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Will 2,215 Posted April 20, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2019 I've been playing this moment on repeat over the last two days: Chewie's theme is mindbogglingly good. Smaug The Iron, Kasey Kockroach, toothless and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,531 Posted April 20, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2019 And so damn squidgy and moldable! It's all over the score, half of it you only notice by the 6-10th listen. Love it. The Illustrious Jerry, Kasey Kockroach, Bofur01 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 That’s my favorite moment in the entire score. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Oh yeah! Listened to Solo for the first time in a while yesterday. Captures so many highlights and is easily my favourite score of 2018. Probably the best JW follow-up ever. It really is a feel-good album- it's just bursting with moments that make you cheer, smile, and love the Powell-Williams collaboration. On that note, you'd have thought that, and it would probably been the case with any other composer but Powell, with Williams writing a theme (a two part theme and a fully developed concert piece, nonetheless), that the rest of the score would shy away from developing too many other good themes or motifs, and mostly revert to Williams material because it's been handed to them to use. What I love is that Powell uses The Adventures of Han so well, and yet still has room to develop five or so killer themes, including the Enfys Nest theme (wow), the gang theme (a personal pleasure for me), the love theme (perfect), the Crimson Dawn motif (alright), L3's theme,and of course Chewie's theme, which is remarkably versatile. Cues such as Train Heist (great balance there), Mine Mission, Break Out, Reminiscence Therapy (I adore the blend of old and new music here) and Maruaders Arrive are some of the best action set pieces of the year. It's a really, really good score. A few really good moments in the film we still don't have, and that pity of an FYC blunder is still looming in my mind. Chicken in the Pot could've easily been left off the album in place of, say, Break In, Mimban Battle, the film versions of Train Heist and Marauders Arrive, Hyperspace, or the Maelstrom. Anyways, that's a very small negative takeaway, and it's not at all on the part of the composers, but rather Disney and co. Perhaps a sessions leak one day (unlikely I'd say, considering we still don't have a Rogue One leak from the permeable grip of Michael Giacchino) or an expansion, but the OST album, while action-heavy, is extremely enjoyable. Smaug The Iron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,531 Posted April 20, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2019 I adore Enfys' material. The Bulgarian women add so much personality and texture to it! Smaug The Iron, Nick Parker and The Illustrious Jerry 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Holko said: I adore Enfys' material. The Bulgarian women add so much personality and texture to it! When it first popped up in the opening heist of the film, I thought, "Ooh, this movie's gonna be fun!" AND YOU KNOW WHAT, DAMMIT, I WAS RIGHT! Smaug The Iron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Looks like a different user has uploaded Blu-ray rips from Solo to YouTube, so they're out there once again. It appears that said user even edited together tracks. Hm. I was confused when I saw this at first, thinking they released an FYC or something suddenly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,293 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 I can never get enough of that first 1:15 of “Dryden’s Yacht” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Oh yeah. And Break In! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Disappointing that Powell didn’t create a true end credit suite. The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,319 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 ....and Disney have blocked the end credits track. Jerks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,897 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 That channel will be gone by the end of the week, I guarantee it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Yeah, it looks like one or two of the videos have been taken down. It doesn't even cover every cue. I'm still waiting to hear Break In again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 14 hours ago, El Jefe said: Disappointing that Powell didn’t create a true end credit suite. Sure he did! It’s called “Chicken in the Pot”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Are we sure that wasn’t one of Williams cues.............? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,091 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 I hope it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Chicken in the Pot Theme by John Williams Composed and Adapted by John Powell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PrayodiBA 517 Posted May 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2019 I would like to give Powell all awards there is, just to hear his speech. Hollywoods needs a little jab! The Illustrious Jerry, Smaug The Iron, MikeH and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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