Ricard 2,245 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Where did it come from again? Was it Score the Podcast's Twitter? It was originally posted here: https://www.score-movie.com/single-post/2018/05/15/Episode-9-John-Powell-The-Inside-Track-with-Dr-Siu-Lan-Tan-Name-That-Score and later removed at Powell's request. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Understandably so! Yeah! It's a bit like somebody posting a page from the script without permission Loert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I'm going to repeat what I said in a deleted post: The hype on this score is getting wild. When have we ever seen such a tease for a new Williams theme (at least in my time)? Although, does anyone feel that releasing sheets for an entire JW theme and calling it a "sneak peek" is a little low? I suppose SCORE always has their way of accidentally not understanding the significance of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 my hype is a hell of a lot lower than a full JW score Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I think this entire thread is proving an earlier point - having JW write a theme is a perfect PR exercise to help out a movie that's had a very troubled production. Even non-musical sites are talking about a new theme for Han. At least JW's track will make it very clear which theme he wrote, and prevent endless bitching about whether some amazing part of some track is Powell or Williams. Sorry if this comes across as overly negative, but to repeat someone's point from earlier, Powell is absolutely capable of doing this score. He does not need Williams' help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 well if it's as good as Rebellion is Reborn I'll take it Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,670 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: Sorry if this comes across as overly negative, but to repeat someone's point from earlier, Powell is absolutely capable of doing this score. He does not need Williams' help. Has anyone anywhere suggested that Powell was not capable of doing this score himself? It is not as if that is the only logical conclusion one must reach given Williams involvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 No, but I think JW's involvement is being overhyped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Powell lacks the experience to do a Star Wars score on his own. He needs guidance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelot 508 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 LOL, yeah, he's the Padawan..... Padewan? Paduwan? Who the F do you spell that dorky thing?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 You got it right the first time. Don't pretend you're not a geek! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelot 508 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I'm far too sophisticated for this Star Wars stuff.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 So am I! Star Trek Is Better Than Everything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 John Williams needed to make sure Powell wasn't just using the Force theme every other cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Arpy 4,145 Posted May 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2018 Kasey Kockroach, Knight of Ren, Damien F and 14 others 2 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 My CD library summarized in one image. Arpy and Loert 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,291 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 7 hours ago, Richard Penna said: I think this entire thread is proving an earlier point - having JW write a theme is a perfect PR exercise to help out a movie that's had a very troubled production. Even non-musical sites are talking about a new theme for Han. At least JW's track will make it very clear which theme he wrote, and prevent endless bitching about whether some amazing part of some track is Powell or Williams. Sorry if this comes across as overly negative, but to repeat someone's point from earlier, Powell is absolutely capable of doing this score. He does not need Williams' help. This is fine but by the same token, Powell doesn't need anybody jumping to his defense either. Williams was involved with Lord/Miller first, supposedly before the production troubles began, and when Powell was offered the gig he was told upfront that for whatever reason, Williams was going to write the main theme but not the whole score. So Powell went in knowing this was the idea and he was happy to do it that way. So we get a John Williams Star Wars theme in a John Powell Star Wars score. It's pretty neat. Not really a big deal and there's nothing wrong being excited about one or the other if not both. Not Mr. Big and 1977 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted May 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2018 As much as the theme is exciting, I am looking forward to Powell's score very much. Honestly, with all due respect to @kaseykockroach, I was not very aware of John Powell's great work until recently. I have been listening to a lot of his scores and I must say that the anticipation is high. Richard Penna, 1977 and Kasey Kockroach 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I concur. I'm really interested in this score because I love Powell in this mode. A theme from Williams is nice, but the highlight of the score? I kinda doubt that. I can see what you mean @mrbellamy absolutely. I seem to remember someone saying a while back that because JW was writing a theme, that this score was from that point a 'major project' to keep an eye on. Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,291 Posted May 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2018 5 hours ago, Richard Penna said: I concur. I'm really interested in this score because I love Powell in this mode. A theme from Williams is nice, but the highlight of the score? I kinda doubt that. Well, it's going to significantly define the score one way or another. It's in 16 tracks of the OST, Powell's described it as "all over" the movie. So highlight of the score, why not? There'll be Williams's piece and all of Powell's versions too. Bound to be something good in there, statistically. Or maybe one of Powell's own tunes or setpieces will still soar above. 5 hours ago, Richard Penna said: I can see what you mean @mrbellamy absolutely. I seem to remember someone saying a while back that because JW was writing a theme, that this score was from that point a 'major project' to keep an eye on. Seriously? 1 I mean, if somebody doesn't generally like John Powell but likes John Williams, then obviously a new theme is gonna make the score something of interest. On the other hand, it's not hard to see where somebody who loves Powell and hasn't especially cared for Williams's music these days might roll their eyes at his "honorary" inclusion and possibly feel cheated out of a potentially more engaging Powell theme. I've been thoroughly impressed with Powell lately but I also have been really enjoying Williams's new stuff and I get a kick out of the fact that the old man's still scribbling around the margins of this dumb franchise. I get sentimental. This was a fun idea and a nice surprise. We've heard the tune, I think it's pretty good. If it's not one of the stronger aspects of the score then there's a lot to look forward to. Jay, Not Mr. Big and Ricard 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2018 2 hours ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: As much as the theme is exciting, I am looking forward to Powell's score very much. Honestly, with all due respect to @kaseykockroach, I was not very aware of John Powell's great work until recently. I have been listening to a lot of his scores and I must say that the anticipation is high. Thank you, though I'm hardly deserving of any respect. I'm so shallow, I pretend to hate Giacchino just to increase my chances of making friends here! 1977, Jurassic Shark and Sandor 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Richard Penna said: I concur. I'm really interested in this score because I love Powell in this mode. A theme from Williams is nice, but the highlight of the score? I kinda doubt that. @mrbellamy yes, it will be the highlight of the score. Just like the composers who had the misfortune to follow JW in the harry Potter series, they have no memorable theme to speak of And for the life of me I can;t remember a single Powell theme except Chicken Run which I'm not sure he composed Taikomochi, Jacck and Not Mr. Big 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, King Mark said: yes, it will be the highlight of the score. Just like the composers who had the misfortune to follow JW in the harry Potter series, they have no memorable theme to speak of And for the life of me I can;t remember a single Powell theme except Chicken Run which I'm not sure he composed Tallguy, 1977, Not Mr. Big and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 actually i realize have almost nothing by him in itunes since he scored mostly animated films...so I'll keep an open mind. But I can't say i feel compelled to check out stuff like Ice age ,Kung Fu Panda , Rio or Happy Feet Never heard the Bourne scores either leeallen01 and Chewy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 So you presumably worship John Williams' scores for those wretched Star Wars prequels, but heaven forbid animated film music, eh? Come now, my good man. Where's your sense of adventure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 This is actually his first major sci-fi blockbuster score then I was also mistaking him with the guy who did Superman Returns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Mars Needs Moms says hi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 8 hours ago, King Mark said: This is actually his first major sci-fi blockbuster score then Nah, I'd call X-Men III pretty close to a major sci-fi blockbuster. Also, for what it's worth, his animated scores are all quite different from each other. How To Train Your Dragon is a good indicator of what he does with the action/adventure genre ("animated" is not a genre in and of itself). Holko and Kasey Kockroach 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Docteur Qui said: ("animated" is not a genre in and of itself). Yes it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,318 Posted May 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2018 That's like saying "live action" is a genre. Docteur Qui, DarthDementous and Tallguy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 When you really think about it, genre is a very ill-defined term, so... bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelot 508 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 5 hours ago, King Mark said: This is actually his first major sci-fi blockbuster score then I was also mistaking him with the guy who did Superman Returns Ottman?! No, very different from each other with what they can and cannot do. Although they are both Johns heh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,291 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 24 minutes ago, crumbs said: That's like saying "live action" is a genre. Eh, live-action isn't really a helpful categorization whereas animation can be. I guess it's a genre of style or medium, like "silent movie" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, ocelot said: Ottman?! No, very different from each other with what they can and cannot do. Although they are both Johns heh John Powell is a woeful editor. ocelot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 What is it with Johns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 5 hours ago, King Mark said: actually i realize have almost nothing by him in itunes since he scored mostly animated films...so I'll keep an open mind. But I can't say i feel compelled to check out stuff like Ice age ,Kung Fu Panda , Rio or Happy Feet Never heard the Bourne scores either I had kinda never gotten Powell's music (based on only really hearing his animated scores), but chose to revisit some of his more dramatic stuff recently. Wow! Some incredible work. You owe it to yourself to check out Bourne, I Am Sam, Hancock and X3 at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Stefancos said: Yes it is. No it's not. Animation is a medium, like celluloid. Horror is a genre. Erotica is a genre. Action is a genre. Any of these can be (and frequently are) animated. Bryant Burnette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 I think it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Stefancos said: I think it is! What you think is irrelevant. What is, is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 But animation also lends itself to different style of coverage (because your camerawork and compositional choices can be completely uninhibited), tone, etc... So its more than just a medium. From here to calling it a "genre" is not too big a stretch of the imagination... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 It has it's own seperate catagory in most DVD/Blu-ray sections of a shop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Chen G. said: But animation also lends itself to different style of coverage (because your camerawork and compositional choices can be completely uninhibited), tone, etc... So its more than just a medium. From here to calling it a "genre" is not too big a stretch of the imagination... Wait, so an unlimited potential for visual communication means it's closer to being a genre than a whole new medium? I don't agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 8 hours ago, kaseykockroach said: I pretend to hate Giacchino just to increase my chances of making friends here! No Ani, we'd be living a lie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Docteur Qui said: I don't agree Allow me to clarify: I don't think animated qualifies as a genre, either. But I can still see Stefancos' point, even if I don't agree with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2018 Film music isn't a genre, yet it is. ocelot, Ricard and tmarps 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,401 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 6 hours ago, mrbellamy said: Eh, live-action isn't really a helpful categorization whereas animation can be. I guess it's a genre of style or medium, like "silent movie" Yeah, this is why mom's come back to the video counter very very upset because the parents let their kid rent some Japanese adult anime that they thought would be perfectly appropriate because "it was a cartoon". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 That kind of thinking is precisely why many kids got to have the privilege of being traumatized by Watership Down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 I'm a better man for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Your therapy bills beg to differ! Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 It's the NHS. Everyone pays for my therapy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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