publicist 4,643 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 And if sheets exist it's unlikely they didn't record them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,352 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Why, can't it just be a fully finished draft that got rejected by the director? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 1 hour ago, crumbs said: Well, add that to the 4 alternates/film versions (inserts) and that's already 8 alternate tracks for the film. Hopefully there's even more. Weren't there rumours about an early version of the Window to the Past theme? Cerebral Cortex and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 So when (if, I don't know if we've had an official announcement, sorry) these come out do we have high hopes for the artwork? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert 475 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: do we have high hopes for the artwork? Not really. Since it's WB, they'd probably hold on to their theatrical posters. Ideally we would at least get Drew Struzan's painting for the first film and his unused artwork for the second film, but for Azkaban there's nothing similar, only those awful photo collages. I doubt they'd use an external artist (like Paul Shipper for BSG) for a franchise this big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,532 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Please Jim Titus Please Jim Titus Please Jim Titus Please Jim Titus Please Jim Titus Please Jim Titus Please Jim Titus Please Jim Titus Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Laserschwert said: Not really. Since it's WB, they'd probably hold on to their theatrical posters. Ideally we would at least get Drew Struzan's painting for the first film and his unused artwork for the second film, but for Azkaban there's nothing similar, only those awful photo collages. I doubt they'd use an external artist (like Paul Shipper for BSG) for a franchise this big. I'm sure the talented dwellers of the custom cover threads can help us out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert 475 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: I'm sure the talented dwellers of the custom cover threads can help us out! Only if someone manages to paint a proper Azkaban poster in Struzan's iconic style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redishere 697 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 2 hours ago, gkgyver said: Great mockup! Didn't know they were so many alternates, I would really love to get my hands on those sheets. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 4 hours ago, crumbs said: I've just accepted the rumours as fact that Azkaban holds many secrets in its complete recordings, based on what I've read over the years. Obviously the OST has several key differences in the film itself (the insert in the end credits, the alternate accordion section in The Knight Bus, the Hogwarts lockdown insert (that fantastic shot of the front gate locking), the alternate bats-flying-through-the-forest cue, probably others I can't remember). The bats-flying-through-the-forest cue sounds tracked. But you forgot the alternate werewolf chase. On the OST there is that pizzicato strings passage before the Chasing Scabbers cue and in the movie we hear wild timpani. 4 hours ago, publicist said: (even the finale is more or less the Buckbeak flight repeated). Of course it is. Therefore I don't understand why everyone wants that particular cue. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,532 Posted November 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2018 It's not for Buckbeak's Flight but everything before it! Arpy, crumbs, bollemanneke and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,298 Posted November 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2018 Yeah that whole buildup is some gorgeous writing. Arpy, Once and crumbs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,352 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 And the bats cue is not tracked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redishere 697 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 1 hour ago, bollemanneke said: And the bats cue is not tracked. Sorry for the silly question, but what do you mean when you say a cue is “tracked”? Bear with me, I’ve been speaking English for 2/3 of my life but I’m still Italian so some translation issues still happen from time to time. 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert 475 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 As far as I know "tracked" means that it's been edited together from music from other parts of the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redishere 697 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Laserschwert said: As far as I know "tracked" means that it's been edited together from music from other parts of the film. That explains it, thanks! Found that term here and there, and could tell it was mainly used in a negative manner, but I wasn’t sure about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post A. A. Ron 1,744 Posted November 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2018 26 minutes ago, redishere said: Sorry for the silly question, but what do you mean when you say a cue is “tracked”? Bear with me, I’ve been speaking English for 2/3 of my life but I’m still Italian so some translation issues still happen from time to time. 😬 Don't worry about it, that's not really a silly question. The average English speaker wouldn't know what "tracking" means in a film score context either. bollemanneke, Once, crumbs and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Molly Weasley 100 Posted November 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Brundlefly said: The bats-flying-through-the-forest cue sounds tracked. But you forgot the alternate werewolf chase. On the OST there is that pizzicato strings passage before the Chasing Scabbers cue and in the movie we hear wild timpani. Bats definitely isn't tracked, it's gorgeous and it follows an extended Forward to Time Past/Saving Buckbeak. We're also missing the Lupin vs. Buckbeak cue as well as that intense end of the second werewolf scene. Not to mention double trouble variations (Dumbledore's speech, meeting Buckbeak), Window to the Past (Remembering Lily, the walk in the woods, Harry and Sirius after the Shrieking Shack), the transition from the walk in the woods to the scene with the twins, and any time the Pettigrew motif appears. To name a few.... Once, bollemanneke, Taikomochi and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bollemanneke 3,352 Posted November 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2018 That twins music is so gorgeous. Once, Molly Weasley and crumbs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,298 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 25 minutes ago, Molly Weasley said: Bats definitely isn't tracked, it's gorgeous and it follows an extended Forward to Time Past/Saving Buckbeak. We're also missing the Lupin vs. Buckbeak cue as well as that intense end of the second werewolf scene. Not to mention double trouble variations (Dumbledore's speech, meeting Buckbeak), Window to the Past (Remembering Lily, the walk in the woods, Harry and Sirius after the Shrieking Shack), the transition from the walk in the woods to the scene with the twins, and any time the Pettigrew motif appears. To name a few.... I believe we do have Lupin/Harry’s walk in the woods as part of the “A Window to the Past” track. bollemanneke and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Molly Weasley 100 Posted November 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: That twins music is so gorgeous. I love it. Really adds to the variety of the score that we only get a glimpse of on the album. 2 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: I believe we do have Lupin/Harry’s walk in the woods as part of the “A Window to the Past” track. We do, however I'm still looking forward to hearing it with its clean opening and transition into Hedwig's theme. bollemanneke, Once and crumbs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 I've recently seen the movie and I don't remember a scene with bats. Where in the film does it take place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once 605 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 I honestly never knew about this amount of alternates. I really hope they were recorded (and Williams allows them to be released). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelly 261 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 36 minutes ago, Demodex said: I've recently seen the movie and I don't remember a scene with bats. Where in the film does it take place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Ah. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 An expansion of the third score could be similar to the A.I. expansion: There is a 70 minute OST that doubles several minutes of material, so that it's actually just around 60 minutes of material. The expansion then adds 60 minutes of score and another 60 minutes of extras. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,352 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I don't think HP3 allows for such a huge release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redishere 697 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 32 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: I don't think HP3 allows for such a huge release. The ripped expanded version is less than 2 hours long, so counting the eventual alternates a 2cd release will probably be enough. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Mark 3,631 Posted November 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2018 we getting one of the 3 1)Fully complete scores with alternates, unused music,children suite, trailer music... 2) Slight cost cutting , compromise for the masses. Whatever fits on 2 c.d.'s each 3) Repackaged OST's + 1 bonus disk of extra cues + Screen Savers +Collectible stickers, embossed covers AND foldout poster Josh500, Will and Once 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Would love a clean version of the raucous music that plays when Werewolf Lupin chases Harry and Hermione. 1.27 - Very Revenge of the Sith-y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 @King Mark, shut up, there is just option 1! Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,352 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Do you honestly believe option 3 is possible, king mark? Really? I'm still afraid of option 2 though. Once and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I'm not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Richard Penna 3,696 Posted November 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2018 37 minutes ago, King Mark said: 3) Repackaged OST's + 1 bonus disk of extra cues + Screen Savers +Collectible stickers, embossed covers AND foldout poster You're hilarious when you're in full blown panic mode. Now I'm not one for unquestioning worship of soundtrack producers (a little too much of that going on around here), but if MM is producing it, option 3 ain't happening. Option 2 is vaguely possible, perhaps if JW doesn't want tons of alternates released, but it's going to be 1 or 2. Molly Weasley, Taikomochi, bollemanneke and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,352 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't MV say something on FSM about BF releases being available digitally from other resources? If that's the case with HP, what about a digital version for the masses (who don't buy CDs, it seems) and a CD release for the geeks? Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,897 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 56 minutes ago, Alex said: Would love a clean version of the raucous music that plays when Werewolf Lupin chases Harry and Hermione. 1.27 - Very Revenge of the Sith-y What's up with the weird panning effect? The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,696 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Likely related to removing sfx. Most rips of Rescuing Sirius lose a channel when the door breaks open to reduce the *crash*. It doesn't make for particularly good listening. bollemanneke and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Just watch the movie at that point. TSMefford and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,897 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Richard Penna said: Likely related to removing sfx. Most rips of Rescuing Sirius lose a channel when the door breaks open to reduce the *crash*. It doesn't make for particularly good listening. That would make sense; but for me personally if and when I ever do that in my edits, I'll simply make the solo channel mono, or more likely convert it to artificial stereo, as opposed to keeping it all off to one speaker. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 4 hours ago, King Mark said: we getting one of the 3 1)Fully complete scores with alternates, unused music,children suite, trailer music... 2) Slight cost cutting , compromise for the masses. Whatever fits on 2 c.d.'s each 3) Repackaged OST's + 1 bonus disk of extra cues + Screen Savers +Collectible stickers, embossed covers AND foldout poster Option 3 would be preferable. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 mmm foldout poster, sounds intriguing bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 6 hours ago, King Mark said: we getting one of the 3 1)Fully complete scores with alternates, unused music,children suite, trailer music... 2) Slight cost cutting , compromise for the masses. Whatever fits on 2 c.d.'s each 3) Repackaged OST's + 1 bonus disk of extra cues + Screen Savers +Collectible stickers, embossed covers AND foldout poster I want 1, but I'm reaaaaaally into those collectible stickers, so I'm torn! 😂 bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MedigoScan 325 Posted November 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2018 I for one eagerly await Wormtail's theme Molly Weasley, Bofur01 and Once 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmarps 217 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Watching POA Live to Picture and then going home to find I couldn’t get the Womping Willow 3rd Act action cue anywhere made me sad, so I’ll be glad for full releases Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,696 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 9 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: That would make sense; but for me personally if and when I ever do that in my edits, I'll simply make the solo channel mono, or more likely convert it to artificial stereo, as opposed to keeping it all off to one speaker. Yes I've occasionally tried putting the clean channel on both sides with a lightly delay between them. I did that in my Walk in the Woods rip from Twister until LLL's release. Question is whether it happens in the middle of a smooth section in which case it can work. If you do it right on a crescendo as with Rescuing Sirius it can sound like crap. Molly Weasley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Incanus 5,716 Posted November 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2018 14 hours ago, King Mark said: we getting one of the 3 1)Fully complete scores with alternates, unused music,children suite, trailer music... 2) Slight cost cutting , compromise for the masses. Whatever fits on 2 c.d.'s each 3) Repackaged OST's + 1 bonus disk of extra cues + Screen Savers +Collectible stickers, embossed covers AND foldout poster Well if Mike Matessino is involved I am expecting the first option and I am sure he will make that happen unless Williams himself was opposed to it. bollemanneke, redishere and Once 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 When Mike is involved, only Williams can request any changes or question any of his decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Arpy 4,145 Posted November 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2018 Mike: Mr Williams, would you like the alternates on disc 3 or should we just drop them? John: Disc 3? Alternates? Whatever for? Now look Mike baby, you see those covers Jim Titus had marvelously prepared, I don't think I saw any levels of emboss on there, nor did I see the option for a collectible, fold-out miniposter, with a lovely picture of the troll from the first film - forget about the music for a second... Mike: -_- Cerebral Cortex, Incanus, Molly Weasley and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redishere 697 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Incanus said: Well if Mike Matessino is involved I am expecting the first option and I am sure he will make that happen unless Williams himself was opposed to it. I highly doubt they’ll choose option 2, unless Williams is opposed to releasing alternates. An expanded HP3 will probably fit in two discs just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 37 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: When Mike is involved, only Williams can request any changes or question any of his decisions. MM will have to listen to the label co-producer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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