Popular Post Skelly 261 Posted October 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2019 There was definitely something in that scene that was added in late. I don't think anything was left intentionally unscored, least of all the dialogue; almost all the dialogue in the movie is underscored once we reach Hogwarts, and if it isn't, it's usually because the music was dialed out! My guess is that Williams scored a cut where Filch's cat didn't begin to follow Harry. Maybe Harry nearly bumped into Snape/Quirrel on his own (and note that the cat seems to suddenly disappear in the final cut). Here's a quick and dirty edit of what I think Williams was trying to underscore... https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ZzCQJvEmp066iRyT8hnocEluinYzbomz The actual movie tries to have three big crescendo moments with the music: when the cat follows Harry; when Snape reaches out for Harry; and when all the faculty leave the corridor at the end. The cue as written only has one. When you line it up with the third instance, the little quote of Harry's theme plays about when Snape grabs empty air, which makes sense to me and is way more fun than what they did in the final cut. Once, Jay, DolceMecha and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 Interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redishere 697 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 32 minutes ago, Skelly said: There was definitely something in that scene that was added in late. I don't think anything was left intentionally unscored, least of all the dialogue; almost all the dialogue in the movie is underscored once we reach Hogwarts, and if it isn't, it's usually because the music was dialed out! My guess is that Williams scored a cut where Filch's cat didn't begin to follow Harry. Maybe Harry nearly bumped into Snape/Quirrel on his own (and note that the cat seems to suddenly disappear in the final cut). Here's a quick and dirty edit of what I think Williams was trying to underscore... https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ZzCQJvEmp066iRyT8hnocEluinYzbomz The actual movie tries to have three big crescendo moments with the music: when the cat follows Harry; when Snape reaches out for Harry; and when all the faculty leave the corridor at the end. The cue as written only has one. When you line it up with the third instance, the little quote of Harry's theme plays about when Snape grabs empty air, which makes sense to me and is way more fun than what they did in the final cut. That actually makes sense, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redishere 697 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 So this means they used the same musical phrase twice: the one when Filch yells "Who's there?" in the Restricted section is the same heard when Snape turns back to confront Quirrell. These tracking choices really sound weird after one realizes they're there: what is heard cannot be unheard, I guess. For the same reason, I was excited to rewatch the extended versions of HP1 and HP2 and boy, do those tracked cues sound sloppy as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, redishere said: I was excited to rewatch the extended versions of HP1 and HP2 and boy, do those tracked cues sound sloppy as hell. Those were perfectly fine on the DVD as standalone scenes brought to completion, a kinda "this is what it could have been if they were scored, too". Those EEs are very very lazy and cashgrabby. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redishere 697 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Holko said: Those were perfectly fine on the DVD as standalone scenes brought to completion, a kinda "this is what it could have been if they were scored, too". Those EEs are very very lazy and cashgrabby. Agreed. They look and sound like fan-edits. When I bought my 16-Discs BluRay boxset I was initially upset 'cause the extended editions of the first two movies weren't there… Changed my mind pretty fast as soon as I rewatched them online. Which was right after I listened to the HP JW Collection. Hearing music crossfading into a (badly) tracked cue every time a deleted scene appeared set my teeth on edge. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelly 261 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 For number 1, I don't think there was any original music written for those scenes. The closest Williams did to scoring a "deleted scene" was the original Time Transition, which I assume was written in response to Dumbledore's silly line that the Mirror of Erised shows him with brand-new socks. When this line was removed it probably made the cue seem really inappropriate for the sentiment the scene now ends on, which is about the danger of getting sucked into fantasies and ignoring reality. But Number 2 had music written for nearly all its incorporated deleted scenes. I don't know how much of it ended up being used in the extended editions though. And even the deleted scenes that weren't scored, you can see that some were at least spotted in that "On the Track" list of the cues (at least two Hermione recovering-from-being-a-cat scenes, and the Dursley household receiving a letter about Harry's alleged spell-casting). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 If we really want to split hairs, on my last watch I approximated 60-70% of the cues to be altered in some form in 1 - tracked over, looped, dialed out, but mostly microedited. Tons of things were shaved off here and there I assume, to bring the runtime down after nothing major could be omitted anymore, as it happens, so Williams scored probably a good load of shots and lines not in the final movie and never publically seen! Same with Azkaban of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 43 minutes ago, Holko said: Those were perfectly fine on the DVD as standalone scenes brought to completion, a kinda "this is what it could have been if they were scored, too". Those EEs are very very lazy and cashgrabby. I still don't get why they never extended 3-8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Looking at the precedent, be grateful they didn't! I'd rather have more comprehensive deleted scene lists - Azkaban shows the aftermath of Black breaking into the dormitory and all, but surely they shot the breakin and chaos itself, no? Things get shot out of order all the time but to throw a whole scene out in the middle is weird, especially when they did shoot effects coverage of Cadogan for it. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaug The Iron 515 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 14 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: I still don't get why they never extended 3-8. They did. They never released it on dvd, but I have seen DH2 Extended on Tv once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Smaug the iron said: They did. They never released it on dvd, but I have seen DH2 Extended on Tv once. But those TV versions weren't officially approved, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redishere 697 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 30 minutes ago, Holko said: Looking at the precedent, be grateful they didn't! I'd rather have more comprehensive deleted scene lists - Azkaban shows the aftermath of Black breaking into the dormitory and all, but surely they shot the breakin and chaos itself, no? Things get shot out of order all the time but to throw a whole scene out in the middle is weird, especially when they did shoot effects coverage of Cadogan for it. Yeah, there's Cadogan, but something tells me they didn't shot everything, 'cause they decided to scrap the whole scene halfway through production. Otherwise they wouldn't show half a deleted scene in the DVD… I guess. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaug The Iron 515 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 27 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: But those TV versions weren't officially approved, right? I don't know. I just know that they are shown on TV in the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,894 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 DH2 extended edit is on TV constantly, and yes, legally it has to be approved. It's usually on "Freeform" which owns the TV rights to the films (just as TNT owns the rights to Star Wars on TV). The visual effects are finished as well. For instance, on the DVD/Blu-Ray if you watch the extended bridge scene, you'll notice the effects are not finished and you can see green screen everywhere. In the TV version the entire thing is finished, and no green screen is visible. Not all of the deleted scenes were restored though. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Because they aren't in that movie...? Manakin Skywalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,894 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: Because they aren't in that movie...? If you're referring to the Dursley's, they are in a deleted scene. My point was that that was one of the only deleted scenes left out of the TV version. EDIT: My bad, I was thinking of the first film. The point still might remain however. I can't recall if there is extra footage in the DH1 TV version, but I do know for a fact that scene isn't present. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,287 Posted October 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2019 It's basically impossible to restore the extra Dursley stuff into Part 1 because the "Obliviate" montage ends with them driving away. I don't think it was conceived like that, it must have been something Yates figured out in editing. It had to have been originally written and shot to play out in those longer dialogue scenes but as it is you can't really plop those scenes in without drastically re-editing and re-scoring the whole opening. bollemanneke, redishere and Manakin Skywalker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 7 hours ago, Holko said: Those were perfectly fine on the DVD as standalone scenes brought to completion, a kinda "this is what it could have been if they were scored, too". Those EEs are very very lazy and cashgrabby. Yes, the EEs are simply the deleted scenes reincorporated - they actually ruin the flow of the music in the surrounding scenes, so the music just awkwardly fades back into whatever was playing before. It's not worth it. Perhaps a few shots in Chamber of Secrets could've been left in - those scenes of Harry's persecution were nice, especially the one where he's alone with Hedwig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 And that one was actually scored! bollemanneke and redishere 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redishere 697 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 8 hours ago, Arpy said: Yes, the EEs are simply the deleted scenes reincorporated - they actually ruin the flow of the music in the surrounding scenes, so the music just awkwardly fades back into whatever was playing before. It's not worth it. Perhaps a few shots in Chamber of Secrets could've been left in - those scenes of Harry's persecution were nice, especially the one where he's alone with Hedwig. Yeah, if my memory doesn't fail me, Chamber's EE was a tad better edited. I also liked the extended Borgin&Burkes scene with Draco and his father, but I don't remember if it was scored or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelly 261 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 3 hours ago, redishere said: Yeah, if my memory doesn't fail me, Chamber's EE was a tad better edited. I also liked the extended Borgin&Burkes scene with Draco and his father, but I don't remember if it was scored or not. it was, but with tracked music. I don't think that scene was even spotted, or if it was, it would have been a much longer 1M10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just a random observation: if Library and Transformation were switched around, wouldn't it have been a great idea to switch both cues in Harry Meets Fawkes around too? If you do that, the track really flows much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 If I remember correctly, at one point they were switched around, actually, I believe when the disc break occurred at a different point (before we realized how many bonus tracks we'd be able to include) bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 That's really interesting. Did you keep track of more of such small developments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 It's all in my email history somewhere! I believe at the time 5M4A The Introduction Of Fawkes and 5M5 Fawkes Is Reborn would have been swapped inside "Harry Meets Fawkes" because The Introduction of Fawkes had a better ending to end Disc 1, and then Disc 2 would have opened with "Christmas Break", which made a nice parallel with HPSS, which began its disc 2 with its Christmas cues. But then we keep finding more alternates worth including. so disc 1 had to be longer to fit everything on 2 discs. bollemanneke and Smaug The Iron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Any plans to ask formal approval to publish that e-mail history for JWfan? It would be a fascinating read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 Yikes publishing emails is a very bad idea, but maybe some sort of article could be crafted about the development of the box set from start to finish. Most of it's not very exciting though. Molly Weasley and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,526 Posted December 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2019 "Yo, JayZ, I just found the perfectest listening experience for Azkaban, all I have to do is switch these 2 cues out of chronology" "Listen, M&M's, I know these fuckfaces, I'm gonna have to take enough shit already for keeping silent about Remembering Mother being lost, I'm never gonna hear the end of their complaining!" Molly Weasley, Taikomochi, Arpy and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2019 I am referring to Jason and Mike as Jay-Z and Eminem from now until the end of time redishere, Jay and Bilbo 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brundlefly 2,385 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Could be worse - both great musicians. redishere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Uhh... not sure I even really understand the basic foundation of the idea. Marauders/Pettigrew is constructed from Nimbus 2000 and Platform 9 3/4 (no, not "mischief" and "Weasleys", the Weasleys got their own proper motif in Chamber playing off of Ron's throwaway sorting melody - so looking at the actual names and usage instead of just a surface knowledge of the movies already questions the grand theory) in.. what way exactly? Because he thinks they sound somewhat alike? Also a bit too much negative Williams/Ross speculation/ignorance. Docteur Qui and Cerebral Cortex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redishere 697 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Holko said: Uhh... not sure I even really understand the basic foundation of the idea. Marauders/Pettigrew is constructed from Nimbus 2000 and Platform 9 3/4 (no, not "mischief" and "Weasleys", the Weasleys got their own proper motif in Chamber playing off of Ron's throwaway sorting melody - so looking at the actual names and usage instead of just a surface knowledge of the movies already questions the grand theory) in.. what way exactly? Because he thinks they sound somewhat alike? Also a bit too much negative Williams/Ross speculation/ignorance. Plus, the harpsichord motif does not appear during the confrontation in the Shrieking Shack, so Williams probably didn't associate it with Pettigrew. Anyway, I still enjoyed this video: I hadn't thought about that motif being related to family, so it was cool to analyze it through a different lens. I kinda prefer the Art of the Score take on this, though (in which Pettigrew's theme is the "reversed" Sirius brass statement). Chewy and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, redishere said: Plus, the harpsichord motif does not appear during the confrontation in the Shrieking Shack, so Williams probably didn't associate it with Pettigrew. Well, it does in the movie, but it's tracked in, and also mixed in low over Pettigrew's transformation later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redishere 697 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Just now, Holko said: Well, it does in the movie, but it's tracked in, and also mixed in low over Pettigrew's transformation later. Yeah, my bad, I meant in the LLL boxset! Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oierem 152 Posted December 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Holko said: Uhh... not sure I even really understand the basic foundation of the idea. Marauders/Pettigrew is constructed from Nimbus 2000 and Platform 9 3/4 (no, not "mischief" and "Weasleys", the Weasleys got their own proper motif in Chamber playing off of Ron's throwaway sorting melody - so looking at the actual names and usage instead of just a surface knowledge of the movies already questions the grand theory) in.. what way exactly? Because he thinks they sound somewhat alike? Also a bit too much negative Williams/Ross speculation/ignorance. He's (over)analyzing the significance of that moment in the story and then atribuiting those qualities to a simple motif that it's not too different from typical Williams musical gestures (those "chromatic doubles" are typical Williams to represent tension or mystery, and never family). it's possible that the Marauder's theme comes from the Nimbus 2000/Mischief theme (consciously or not), but Platform 9 3/4 music is NOT a leitmotif, and (a fragment of it) doesn't represent family at all. Plus, the theme was tracked into many of the scenes he mentions. And by the way, scoring Attack of the Clones was finished by January 2002, long before Williams could even begin to score Harry Potter 2, so there's that as well. I think sometimes we tend to overanalyze the thematic significance of William's music. More and more I get the feeling that Williams writes more based on the emotions he wants to convey in a certain scene and not carefully constructing and deconstructing thematic ideas. I guess he is more emotion driven than intellectually driven when it comes to writing music (meaning that he treats his themes in a very general sort of way). I mean, you could create a Youtube video about how the use of Yoda's theme in the reunion scene of TROS is a really clever way to represent the wisdom of the Jedi master, and the ultimate triumph of good, and the idea that a part of Yoda lives in every good person in the galaxy.... but the truth is that Williams just used the theme because he wanted to have a mix of old themes in one of the final moments of the movie, and it just sounded good. Holko, Taikomochi and Richard Penna 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 This sounds both - like a musically illiterate analysis as well as misjudged and misguided - the video I mean. The only thing worse than under analysis is over analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 4 hours ago, oierem said: I think sometimes we tend to overanalyze the thematic significance of William's music. More and more I get the feeling that Williams writes more based on the emotions he wants to convey in a certain scene and not carefully constructing and deconstructing thematic ideas. I guess he is more emotion driven than intellectually driven when it comes to writing music (meaning that he treats his themes in a very general sort of way). I mean, you could create a Youtube video about how the use of Yoda's theme in the reunion scene of TROS is a really clever way to represent the wisdom of the Jedi master, and the ultimate triumph of good, and the idea that a part of Yoda lives in every good person in the galaxy.... but the truth is that Williams just used the theme because he wanted to have a mix of old themes in one of the final moments of the movie, and it just sounded good. I would say that JWFanners are generally pretty good at understanding when themes are broadly applied and when they might mean something more specific, and that Williams often plays fast and loose with them in context. Mostly, I think we agree it's just nice to give things a name simply to be able to reference them easily. It's these sorts of YouTube videos and film geek type forums where I see people get carried away with trying to decipher what it all means and bringing a lot of extra-musical connections and interpretations into the underscore. Then again occasionally these people are vindicated (like Rey's Theme = a certain Rise of Skywalker spoiler) even if by coincidence, so fair's fair! Cerebral Cortex and Holko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bollemanneke 3,348 Posted December 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2019 Please allow me to randomly enter the conversation, just to say that I listened to Diagon Alley and Quidditch from the Children's Suite, then the television commercial and the finale from HP2. Feeling really nostalgic and incredibly grateful to have this fantastic set now. 2020 will be a year full of magic. Pieter Boelen, DolceMecha, redishere and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 6 hours ago, oierem said: More and more I get the feeling that Williams writes more based on the emotions he wants to convey in a certain scene and not carefully constructing and deconstructing thematic ideas. I guess he is more emotion driven than intellectually driven when it comes to writing music (meaning that he treats his themes in a very general sort of way). He does it intuitively and the rest is history... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Yes, and that's why his scores work so much better than, say, The Hobbit, because Shore doesn't understand that emotion is equally important. gkgyver, Jurassic Shark, Richard Penna and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 7 hours ago, oierem said: I mean, you could create a Youtube video about how the use of Yoda's theme in the reunion scene of TROS is a really clever way to represent the wisdom of the Jedi master, and the ultimate triumph of good, and the idea that a part of Yoda lives in every good person in the galaxy.... but the truth is that Williams just used the theme because he wanted to have a mix of old themes in one of the final moments of the movie, and it just sounded good. Absolutely. One of my pet hates is critics or fans over-analysing something because they want to convince themselves that their favourite director or composer has created something amazing. They don't want to admit that maybe the person just tried something without a massive amount of thought, and decided it worked. Unlucky Bastard and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 3 hours ago, bollemanneke said: Yes, and that's why his scores work so much better than, say, The Hobbit, because Shore doesn't understand that emotion is equally important. I'm not convinced the average person would have experienced many emotions during The Hobbit trilogy, no matter what music was attached to it. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 On 12/30/2019 at 9:02 PM, Richard Penna said: Absolutely. One of my pet hates is critics or fans over-analysing something because they want to convince themselves that their favourite director or composer has created something amazing. They don't want to admit that maybe the person just tried something without a massive amount of thought, and decided it worked. All that counts is the result. Analysis is not based on the artist's intentions and thoughts. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tydirium 1,167 Posted January 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2020 Not sure if this has been posted anywhere on the forum yet, but for the music-readers out there, FilmScoreAnalysis (GREAT YT channel) recently put of a vid of "Harry's Wondrous World" and it's incredible: It's especially wild to see exactly what the swirling woodwinds in the "Quidditch" portion of the piece are up to; you simply won't see another composer writing like this these days. The orchestration is off the charts... crlbrg, redishere and Marc 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,316 Posted January 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2020 5 hours ago, Tydirium said: It's especially wild to see exactly what the swirling woodwinds in the "Quidditch" portion of the piece are up to; you simply won't see another composer writing like this these days. The orchestration is off the charts... Simply absurd levels of complexity. It's no huge surprise that someone like Nicholas Hooper comes along and simply can't come close to replicating this level of writing. Williams is an absolute genius and totally unmatched by his peers. crlbrg, Marc and Tydirium 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post redishere 697 Posted January 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2020 I love this cue so much. The opening chords are like a warm breath of wind on a summer evening. Smeltington, crumbs, DolceMecha and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 On 1/11/2020 at 11:28 AM, crumbs said: Simply absurd levels of complexity. It's no huge surprise that someone like Nicholas Hooper comes along and simply can't come close to replicating this level of writing. Williams is an absolute genius and totally unmatched by his peers. There's a lot of that complexity in HTTYD: Hidden World. I do agree that he's mostly unmatched, most certainly by Hooper, but he's not the only living composer capable of it. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Agreed. You don't have to be a genius to be no match for Hooper, but Desplat and Powell are certainly capable of writing as intricately as JW does. TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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