Popular Post crumbs 12,973 Posted April 13 Popular Post Share Posted April 13 Selfishly creating a new thread for this because I've never had a film director respond to a tweet before! I asked Mangold if the Dial would have a new theme in the film and he responded: Lotsa new themes and lotsa wonderful new takes on classics too! — Mangold (@mang0ld) April 13, 2023 He seems very willing to answer questions about JW's score – more than any other topic. That's a positive sign! Tom, Fabulin, Brando and 17 others 4 15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 32,104 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 7,094 Posted April 13 Popular Post Share Posted April 13 A new Indiana Jones score by John Williams is just a couple of months away. How cool is that? Karol Andy, eitam, Trope and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 32,104 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Pretty cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jurassic Shark 9,810 Posted April 13 Popular Post Share Posted April 13 At least he didn't say lotsa new songs! Bellosh, Brando and Cerebral Cortex 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,093 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 47 minutes ago, crocodile said: A new Indiana Jones score by John Williams is just a couple of months away. How cool is that? Karol REALLY cool!!! It's starting to sink in now. I'm excited!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 4,984 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 I dunno... I fear that some of these new themes will be left out of the OST. Kinda like Holdo's theme in TLJ, where it only appeared in the End Titles suite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 822 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 I will enjoy the OST and then wait twenty or thirty years Brando and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,014 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 I know it's never happened with ol' J Dubs before, but I'm still optimistic we'll get a two-discer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 822 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 what if they're so happy AND it's John's last that they just go "what the hell, have two discs" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9,810 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 22 minutes ago, Brónach said: I will enjoy the OST and then wait twenty or thirty years In your dreams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 2,639 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 I'll support Williams the making one of his overthought albums if we get a concurrent digital (at least) release of most of the score. Problem is, the more personal a project is to Williams (and given SW and Indy are original creations) the more likely he is to want to arrange it. I just don't think he wants to give us a two-discer so soon after it comes out. I want badly to be proven wrong. enderdrag64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 822 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Two discs but it's all concert pieces. 3 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: In your dreams! you're right: i will participate in the old hobby of finding needles in the needlestack. This Time It's Personal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BB-8 1,944 Posted April 13 Popular Post Share Posted April 13 "Too many themes." Jurassic Shark, Andy, MikeH and 6 others 1 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9,810 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 That Mangold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BB-8 1,944 Posted April 13 Popular Post Share Posted April 13 1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said: That Mangold? No, Disney Records executive editor. Naïve Old Fart, GerateWohl and Jurassic Shark 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,156 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: At least he didn't say lotsa new songs! But he did say new takes on old classics, so get ready for a revamped "Anything Goes" reprisal! Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9,810 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 4 minutes ago, Cerebral Cortex said: But he did say new takes on old classics, so get ready for a revamped "Anything Goes" reprisal! I don't mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 1,065 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 I refuse to watch the 6 minute clip from Celebration so this next 2.5 months cannot come fast enough! Andy and Not Mr. Big 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 3,715 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 1 hour ago, Cerebral Cortex said: But he did say new takes on old classics. Funeral Indy March confirmed. Andy and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bellosh 1,953 Posted April 13 Popular Post Share Posted April 13 9 minutes ago, Tom said: Funeral Indy March confirmed. Tom, Bayesian, Andy and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Naïve Old Fart 7,991 Posted April 13 Popular Post Share Posted April 13 You all realise that this is nothing but snake oil, don't you? The Mouse wants you to cream your jeans. The Mouse wants you to be salivating over every little tidbit and scrap that it throws at you. It has you in its grasp. I have no doubt that the film will be a tremendous success, and will, probably, go a long way to wipe out the memory of KOTCS. Heck, it might even retcon it. Wouldn't that be something? We, however, are not a bunch of teenage fanboys. We are JWfan, and this information must be greeted with enthusiasm, tempered with the maturity and stoicism, that has become the trademark of this most illustrious site fucking hell, I'm so up myself, and should be considered with respect, and - yes - even a little incredulity. Only then will JWfaners be able to truly appreciate the score when it released... and if you believe that bullshit... Bellosh, Romão and Andy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Michael G. 384 Posted April 13 Popular Post Share Posted April 13 3 hours ago, Edmilson said: I dunno... I fear that some of these new themes will be left out of the OST. Kinda like Holdo's theme in TLJ, where it only appeared in the End Titles suite. At this point it seems some people don't want to enjoy this. This new soundtrack is going to be freakin awesome!! Brónach, Bellosh and Brando 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 3,715 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 23 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: We, however, are not a bunch of teenage fanboys. We are JWfan, and this information must be greeted with enthusiasm, tempered with the maturity and stoicism, that has become the benchmark of this most illustrious site fucking hell, I'm so up myself, and should be considered with respect, and - yes - even a little incredulity. Only then will JWfaners be able to truly appreciate the score when it released... and if you believe that bullshit... Didn't you tell me the same thing after I killed a bunch of Tusken raiders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 7,991 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 No. I think I said: "Tom! Tom! Noooooo!". Andy and Tom 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 4,984 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 1 hour ago, Michael Grigorowitsch said: At this point it seems some people don't want to enjoy this. This new soundtrack is going to be freakin awesome!! You honestly think I DON'T want to enjoy it? It's one of my most antecipated film scores of the year! The reason of my comment is that by now I'm used with Williams' weird album choices that, in order to deliver a 75-minute album, major cues and themes are left out. Unless, by some miracle, Mangold convices Williams to release a 2-hour album ("oh the horror, more music to listen, this is awful!", says the OST fanatics), some of the new themes may be left out of the official release and we'll depend of FYC, bootlegs, etc. That's how it has been for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,184 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 5 hours ago, Edmilson said: I dunno... I fear that some of these new themes will be left out of the OST. Kinda like Holdo's theme in TLJ, where it only appeared in the End Titles suite. I was also heard in Chrome Dome Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bellosh 1,953 Posted April 13 Popular Post Share Posted April 13 "lots wonderful new takes on classics too!" Johnny bringing back the TLC nazi motif. Or the Raiders one? Possibly in the flashback scenes? Marion's theme? Scherzo for Motorcyle and Orchestra? British Fanfare from ToD...there's a clear British troops scene on the train tracks. <--------- me Brando, Martinland and Jay 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 822 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 hopefully not british fanfare, it just brings to mind one of the lowest points in the series, film and thematic-wise (theme as in writing, not music) Martinland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bellosh 1,953 Posted April 13 Popular Post Share Posted April 13 2 minutes ago, Brónach said: hopefully not british fanfare, it just brings to mind one of the lowest points in the series, film and thematic-wise (theme as in writing, not music) Brando, Not Mr. Big, Martinland and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,723 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Did we expect anything different? GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,244 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 55 minutes ago, Bellosh said: Which Tim and Eric thing is that from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 3,715 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, Bellosh said: "lots wonderful new takes on classics too!" Johnny bringing back the TLC nazi motif. Or the Raiders one? Possibly in the flashback scenes? Marion's theme? Scherzo for Motorcyle and Orchestra? British Fanfare from ToD...there's a clear British troops scene on the train tracks. <--------- me In all likelihood just the A and B versions of Indy's theme. Maybe Marion's, if she makes an appearance. Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 1,953 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 26 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: Which Tim and Eric thing is that from? Beef House. Can't recommend it enough. On Cinema > Tim & Eric > Beef House in terms of his best stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,244 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 14 minutes ago, Bellosh said: Beef House. Can't recommend it enough. On Cinema > Tim & Eric > Beef House in terms of his best stuff Oh yeah. I remember watching that remotely during the pandemic Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtney Sees Ghosts 75 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 6 minutes of footage leaked and man, the music sounds really good so far! Healthy dose of callbacks and new themes. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cerebral Cortex 3,156 Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 5 hours ago, Bellosh said: "lots wonderful new takes on classics too!" Johnny bringing back the TLC nazi motif. Or the Raiders one? Possibly in the flashback scenes? The fact that the action music from that 6 minute clip seemingly has multiple reprisals of previous action material does make me curious if perhaps Williams will decide to bring back the old Nazi themes for this last romp as well. Brando, Courtney Sees Ghosts and Bellosh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 7,991 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 43 minutes ago, Cerebral Cortex said: The fact that the action music from that 6 minute clip seemingly has multiple reprisals of previous action material does make me curious if perhaps Williams will decide to bring back the old Nazi themes for this last romp as well. There's that little section in LC where Vogel is walking to Donovan's car, carrying a message. I just love that bit. It would nice to hear it, again. Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GerateWohl 2,856 Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 8 hours ago, Edmilson said: It's one of my most antecipated film scores of the year! One of? How can it not be the most anticipated score of the year? crumbs, Brónach, eitam and 4 others 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 12,973 Posted April 14 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 14 3 hours ago, Cerebral Cortex said: The fact that the action music from that 6 minute clip seemingly has multiple reprisals of previous action material does make me curious if perhaps Williams will decide to bring back the old Nazi themes for this last romp as well. It makes sense that the TLC Nazi March was temp tracked all over the prologue, so I'll be shocked if it isn't reprised in JW's final score. Brando, Cerebral Cortex and Fabulin 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 822 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 imagine temptracking an Indiana Jones movie for John Williams, i just can't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 12,973 Posted April 14 Author Share Posted April 14 2 hours ago, Brónach said: imagine temptracking an Indiana Jones movie for John Williams, i just can't Just a reality of the industry nowadays. Modern directors find it helpful to convey the "musical mood" they want from composers. That said, Mangold's extremely knowledgeable on the subject of film music (just listen to his podcast on the subject) so who knows what he temped the film with. It was probably a lot more eclectic than just JW music. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 822 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 ooooh that's a good sign if he's into it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 1,944 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 18 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: That Mangold? That Celery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Richard Penna 2,639 Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 I don't think temp-tracking is inherently evil, it's how the director handles it afterward, and some do a much worse job than others. And by 'worse' I mean forcing the composer to closely follow it and denying them their creative input. I'm going to charitably assume that not all directors do that. wowbobwow, Courtney Sees Ghosts and Brando 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 3,715 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 I don't always approve of editing direct quotations, but the main page's revision to "lots of," has my full endorsement. The original hurts my ears even when just silently read. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,150 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 June 29th cannot come any faster... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marian Schedenig 6,522 Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 13 minutes ago, JohnnyD said: July 29th cannot come any faster... That's temporal mechanics for you. MrJosh, Jurassic Shark, Tom and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 822 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 2 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: That's temporal mechanics for you. i hate reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 32,104 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 33 minutes ago, JohnnyD said: July 29th cannot come any faster... This film opens June 30th. You're going to wait until July 29th to see it? Manakin Skywalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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