Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Disney Records Original Soundtrack Album) - NO FILM SPOILERS!

[Snowster 23]

Is anyone else re-listening to the tracks in sync with KM just to enjoy his reactions and comments? 

For me he has always represented some kind of mystery power and authority in this shared community of ours. There are of course many other prominent and notable members, but still, even if I don't always agree with him, and sometimes even worry about him stressing about all the unreleased cues, and whether or not we we will live to see the music missing from the OST in our life time, I'm still a big fan of his [comments and views].

A true JW Fan if I may say so!!

@King Mark

[Alex Shore 83]

Centuries Join Hands  

[Bellosh 3,419]

'To Morocco' IS GORGEOUS. ALL THE WAY THROUGH

[King Mark 3,631]

16-Centuries Join Hands. More of the beautiful new theme , but not developed to it's full potential. This theme is awesome, and  I was really hoping for a "Map Room" type of track with it where it slowly builds to a climax

[Brónach 1,302]

46 minutes ago, Courtney said:

Fingers crossed for a score only version of the movie like The Last Jedi.

 

and it'd be missing the original ending cue

[mrbellamy 6,287]

To Athens and Battle of Syracuse are definitely my top two standouts

 

Helena's Theme is great throughout. The ASM version makes for a really unique closer and sets itself apart, it really worked for me after hearing the theme developed. I wasn't sure if I'd appreciate having two Helena's Theme arrangements on the album but they both bring something. 

 

This might be a ridiculous thing to say but parts of this made me feel like...this is kinda the most badass and sexy his music's been in awhile

[King Mark 3,631]

1 hour ago, Richard Penna said:

The melody at 4:10 onwards in Prologue is reminding me of something and I can't place it...

 War of the Worlds The Reunion?

[Jay 37,369]

Waking up in Vegas to see a new John Williams OST is out, and there's already 3 new pages of discussion about it to read... Pretty cool

[Jurassic Shark 12,079]

What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.

[Bellosh 3,419]

the ending of Germany, 1944......THE RAIDERS CODA!!!!!   

 

 

[King Mark 3,631]

17-New York 1969. More Marion's theme, nicely developed and slightly different than usual, and playful arrangement of Helena's Theme followed by....standard Raiders March quote with nothing special about it.

 

Why do I get the "Finale" is mostly unreleased?

 

18-Helena's Theme violin version .Should have stayed a separate single release and not on the OST.

 

 Without having seen the film yet I predict this will stand out as one of Williams "worst assembled " OST's when we get to hear the rest of the music, like Revenge of the Sith for example. Right now it sounds like a mish-mash of truncated highlights.

 

My biggest disappointment of the OST.  The beautiful and haunting theme at the end of Prologue (Dial of Destiny theme?) doesn't get a fully developed concert version. Major lost opportunity.

 

I have spoken.

[Edmilson 7,466]

The best part about my morning today: listening to The Grafikos while I was actually creating a graphic! 

[Bespin 8,483]

5 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

The best part about my morning today: listening to The Grafikos while I was actually creating a graphic! 

 

Well, I was listening to "Perils of the Deep" while I was actually washing the dishes in the sink of my kitchen!

[Jay 37,369]

Just got to the On The Tank stuff in track 3. I'm disappointed this is on the OST album instead of original new material

[Snowster 23]

Am I the only one, who is looking around and trying to locate Obi-Wan at The Airport (Track 14), as I hear him constantly sneaking around me in the form of some sneaky ostinatos in the background? And just for the record, doesn't bother me at all, just sharing the notion.

[Bellosh 3,419]

The rendition of the Raiders March at the end of 'To Athens' is without a doubt already in my top 5 favorite renditions of that theme!!

[Damien F 1,742]

1 minute ago, Jay said:

Just got to the On The Tank stuff in track 3. I'm disappointed this is on the OST album instead of original new material

 

I'm disappointed too. Assuming the track is named correctly, I guess either Mangold or JW wanted to capture the style of that era with music from the film close to that period.

[DangerMotif 1,038]

17 minutes ago, King Mark said:

17-New York 1969. More Marion's theme, nicely developed and slightly different than usual, and playful arrangement of Helena's Theme followed by....standard Raiders March quote that has nothing special about it.

 

Why do I get the "Finale" is mostly unreleased?

 

18-Helena's Theme violin version .Should have stayed a separate single release and not on the OST.

 

 Without having seen the film yet I predict this will stand out as one of Williams "worst assembled " OST's when we get to hear the rest of the music, like Revenge of the Sith for example. Right now it sounds like a mish-mash of truncated highlights.

 

My biggest disappointment of the OST.  The beautiful new theme at the end of Prologue doesn't get a fully developed concert version. Major lost opportunity.

We could have easily not had the prologue or the better version of Helena’s theme so i’m happy we have them but the 1944 is clearly missing a lot. Gotta be thankful for what we got.

[Jay 37,369]

And yes that piano opening to Helena's Theme is interesting! Was strange to hear after being so used to the flute opening. 

 

Will take some time to get used to it. And we'll get the original opening on an MM expansion some day, hopefully

 

Voller Returns reminds me of Chamber of Secrets (that score I mean, not that track name) 

[Bellosh 3,419]

old themes or not...biased indy fan or not....biased john williams fan or not...

 

I am in LOVE with this score already.

[Jay 37,369]

Yikers, the Auction track sure is close to it's Tintin (The Duel) temp track

[Tydirium 1,167]

The piano opening to “Helena’s Theme” took me by surprise at first, too, but in some ways it makes the theme feel even more “Golden-Agey.” It also makes the woodwind reprise later on more interesting, as that is now the first time you hear those instruments play that figure.

[Muad'Dib 1,802]

1 minute ago, Jay said:

Yikers, the Auction track sure is close to it's Tintin (The Duel) temp track

 

That was my first reaction as well, but on the other hand I thought it was kinda cool we got to hear more material in that style.

[Edmilson 7,466]

I dunno, I have the feeling that this will be a similar situation to The Little Mermaid remake: a small album first and then another one with a few more tracks later. I'm probably wrong and this is not based on anything, but... Maybe?

[Bespin 8,483]

I'm listening to the score while reading this, very interresting!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism

[King Mark 3,631]

Just now, Edmilson said:

I dunno, I have the feeling that this will be a similar situation to The Little Mermaid remake: a small album first and then another one with a few more tracks later. I'm probably wrong and this is not based on anything, but... Maybe?

 Never happened before.

[Jay 37,369]

Wow, the Tuk Tuk track is awesome!! 

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

1 minute ago, Edmilson said:

I dunno, I have the feeling that this will be a similar situation to The Little Mermaid remake: a small album first and then another one with a few more tracks later. I'm probably wrong and this is not based on anything, but... Maybe?

Usually for JW I wouldn't say that but Mangold's previous comments about a full score release give me hope

[Brónach 1,302]

1 minute ago, King Mark said:

 Never happened before.

 

none of this has happened before.

[King Mark 3,631]

3 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said:

Usually for JW I wouldn't say that but Mangold's previous comments about a full score release give me hope

 An isolated score would be nice, but I get the feeling it happened on The Last Jedi almost by accident with different departments at Disney not consulting each other.

[Jay 37,369]

Wow, that arrangment of Indy's theme that ends To Athens is awesome! 

 

Perils of the Deep reminds me of Chamber of Secrets again

 

Ooh, Marion's theme is that track is nifty sounding! 

[JNHFan2000 2,966]

I think the score is really great and I'm excited to hear it in context tomorrow, but my biggest qualm with the album is that it's very unlike other Williams albums.

 

The Star Wars sequels, all Indy films, 3x Harry Potter & others have multiple theme suites and a long end credits cue. And they're almost always around 70 to 80 minutes long.

Bit of a bummer, but the music is still fantastic.

[Tydirium 1,167]

4 minutes ago, Jay said:

Wow, the Tuk Tuk track is awesome!! 

 

This one was an instant favorite for me. Ever since we heard Helena’s theme last year I've been excited to hear it in “action mode”!

[Jay 37,369]

 

Oh wow Water Ballet is super fun! 

[igger6 894]

5 minutes ago, JNHFan2000 said:

I think the score is really great and I'm excited to hear it in context tomorrow, but my biggest qualm with the album is that it's very unlike other Williams albums.

 

The Star Wars sequels, all Indy films, 3x Harry Potter & others have multiple theme suites and a long end credits cue. And they're almost always around 70 to 80 minutes long.

Bit of a bummer, but the music is still fantastic.

 

I think Williams' advanced age throws all previous considerations and comparisons out the window.  I get the sense that everyone in his orbit is elated that he's producing anything, much less material of this quality, and is scrambling to present it in whatever form they can.  Maybe that's overly charitable, but I'm going with it!

[Edmilson 7,466]

17 minutes ago, Jay said:

oller Returns reminds me of Chamber of Secrets

You're right, I just listened to that track and it includes something very similar to the Spiders musics from CoS! I wondered if Chamber was on the temp track...

[Brónach 1,302]

1 minute ago, igger6 said:

 

I think Williams' advanced age throws all previous considerations and comparisons out the window.

 

i'm guessing only tros or tlj compare to the situation

[Pieter Boelen 740]

27 minutes ago, Jay said:

Just got to the On The Tank stuff in track 3. I'm disappointed this is on the OST album instead of original new material

Maybe Williams figured it wasn't on the LC OST and this was a nice way of making it heard?

I can imagine he forgot it was on the bonus CD of the box set...

[Richard Penna 3,694]

Tuk Tuk is the biggest surprise of the score for me, given what we heard in the film clip.

 

I don't get the impression that we have any cues from different areas joined together, but rather there are just a lot of missing cues and we almost certainly only have part of the finale. I do get the impression that maybe Syracuse isn't from the ending as it doesn't have that triumphant ending one might expect.

 

The whole thing has a fresh sound and Williams doesn't seem to fall back on his strings/harp 'mysterious' material at any point. IOW there is no part of the album I would drop or routinely skip past, unlike Skull. Given the score presented on album, it flows nicely.

[King Mark 3,631]

I'm officially obsessed with the theme at the end of the Prologue. 

[Jay 37,369]

Oh hey The Grafikos has the music in that first clip released

[Edmilson 7,466]

4 minutes ago, Richard Penna said:

Tuk Tuk is the biggest surprise of the score for me, given what we heard in the film clip.

 

Yeah, it's a very entertaining action cue. I love how chaotic it gets, reminds me a bit of the Fathiers Charge! cue from TLJ

[TheUlyssesian 2,478]

29 minutes ago, Jay said:

Yikers, the Auction track sure is close to it's Tintin (The Duel) temp track

 

This is what I was referring to in my Cannes review. Like 1:30 onwards - it is plain as day that it was tracked with The Duel. Some of the figurines and accents etc are literally identical. 

 

It is as close to "tracking in" as possible while still qualifying as "new music".

 

[Bespin 8,483]

Does, as I believe, Anne-Sophie Mutter's version of "Helena's Theme" play during the end credits?

 

It's really beautiful.

[Damien F 1,742]

Here are highlights I noticed while listening to the album for the first time.

 

Prologue: Gorgeous melody in the last two minutes as mentioned by King Mark.

 

To Morocco: Cute variations of the Indy theme at the start. Excellent lush rendition of Helena's theme towards the end.

 

Tuktuk In Tangiers: Cool action versions of Helena's theme. The build-up from 2:16 is awesome! A definite highlight.

 

To Athens: An incredible version of Helena's theme followed by an incredible version of Indy's theme.

 

Polybius Cypher: Nice "mystery / investigation" renditions of Helena's theme.

 

The Airport: Good strong muscular tension / action music with plenty of Helena's theme in the second half.

 

Battle of Syracuse: Very impressive JW rhythmic action writing.

 

Centuries Join Hands: A brief continuation of the rhythmic action writing, followed by the beautiful theme from track 1, and ends with a slightly muted performance of Indy's theme.

[Pawel P. 738]

2 minutes ago, Bespin said:

Does, as I believe, Anne-Sophie Mutter's version of "Helena's Theme" play during the end credits?

 

 

Again, Anne-Sophie Mutter's version it's not in the movie. 

 

Guys, love your comments. I don't treat them as spoilers because I saw the movie. Four more hours for me to listen to this...

[Jay 37,369]

Wow The Airport is a really nice, well-rounded track. 

[Bespin 8,483]

5 minutes ago, Pawel P. said:

 

Again, Anne-Sophie Mutter's version it's not in the movie. 

 

Guys, love your comments. I don't treat them as spoilers because I saw the movie. Four more hours for me to listen to this...

 

Why it's on the OST?
 

It's fraud!

 

I was about to say that this OST is perfect, but if it doesn't include the music from the end credits, then it means that the end credits music is a montage?

[Jay 37,369]

Battle of Syracuse is pretty good

[Bellosh 3,419]

my only true complaint so far is that there isn't a true end credits. but there's lots of good stuff here.