Popular Post Edmilson 7,505 Posted February 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 16, 2023 My favorite scene in Lincoln is when he says "It's linking time!" and then linked all over those guys. Bellosh, Manakin Skywalker, enderdrag64 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,442 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 "gather round fellas...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,731 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 39 minutes ago, Clockwork Angel said: Poor @Disco Stu I thought Stu was a Bridge of Spies guy? Or does he just like all of Spielberg's boring movies*? Spoiler *j/k...Bridge of Spies is actually pretty great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,645 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Spielberg's recent boring movies are all great! His only bad ones have been attempts at blockbusters (BFG and RP1) Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,382 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 13 minutes ago, Nick1Ø66 said: I thought Stu was a Bridge of Spies guy? Or does he just like all of Spielberg's boring movies? On 15/11/2022 at 3:08 PM, Disco Stu said: Of the last 15 years, Lincoln ... [is one] of my favorite movies of all time, Spielberg or not. But it is true that nothing else he's made in that period has come close... for me. On 18/01/2023 at 1:09 PM, Disco Stu said: I'd consider trading one of my children to a dark wizard that could change our timeline to the one where we got a 6 hour Lincoln series by Spielberg and Kushner. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,505 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 My ranking of Spielberg's post-Schindler's List "based on real facts" important dramas is something like this: Munich Saving Private Ryan Catch Me If You Can Bridge of Spies War Horse (a very underrated movie) The Terminal The Post Lincoln Haven't seen Amistad yet. None of those are better than Empire of the Sun, though. But I do like the first 6 of the ranking. Also, they all have great scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,442 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 I think Bridge of Spies is a masterpiece. What I love what he did with Bridge of Spies is that there really is no main character at times (and it doesn't hurt that Tom Hanks finally isn't doing some dopey accent). He lets the story be the main character. And it's a story worth telling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephariel 452 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Bellosh said: I think Bridge of Spies is a masterpiece. What I love what he did with Bridge of Spies is that there really is no main character at times (and it doesn't hurt that Tom Hanks finally isn't doing some dopey accent). He lets the story be the main character. And it's a story worth telling. To me, Saving Private Ryan is a masterpiece. Bridge of Spies is a Ron Howard film. Every scenes plays out exactly how you expect. A glossy, well made, predictable film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,317 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 All I can say is over the last 15 years, I've paid twice to see Tintin, War Horse, Lincoln, Bridge of Spies, West Side Story, and The Fabelmans in theaters, and once to see Crystal Skull, BFG, The Post, and Ready Player One. So that's where I've leaned with Spielberg. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,421 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 West Side Story is the best film Spielberg’s done in the last 20 years. Incredible. JNHFan2000 and mstrox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,681 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 12 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said: Spielberg's recent boring movies are all great! His only bad ones have been attempts at blockbusters (BFG and RP1) As a quasi-BFG apologist, let me say that I don't think it was ever meant to be a blockbuster. It underperformed, but it is truly a kid's film (like Paw Patrol or such) and not some Pixar movie aimed to please everyone. Plus, as a kid's film, it is masterful compared to its counterparts of the last 15 years, with, perhaps The Peanuts Movie as the only exception. Like kid's films of old, it had a fleshed out story with true human emotion and not just "unicorn-fairy everything is perfect" claptrap. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,654 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 There were some real nice filmic moments in BFG and I would have been inclined to call it a more “mature” kids movie than most until I got to the ending when everybody was burping and farting with the queen of England or whatever. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,120 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 EPIC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,681 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Even the farting scene was set up in a masterful Spielbergian-set piece fashion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,645 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 36 minutes ago, mstrox said: There were some real nice filmic moments in BFG and I would have been inclined to call it a more “mature” kids movie than most until I got to the ending when everybody was burping and farting with the queen of England or whatever. THOSE WERE THE ONLY GOOD PARTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,120 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Actually, it was inspired by a deleted scene from Schindler's List. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,603 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, mstrox said: ...everybody was burping and farting with the queen of England or whatever. Penelope Wilton! Fuck, yeah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,421 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Disney in considering having Indy 5 debut at Cannes this May https://variety.com/2023/film/markets-festivals/hollywood-cannes-indiana-jones-5-killers-of-the-flower-moon-astroid-city-1235539707/ Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom Guernsey 2,295 Posted March 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jay said: Disney in considering having Indy 5 debut at Cannes this May https://variety.com/2023/film/markets-festivals/hollywood-cannes-indiana-jones-5-killers-of-the-flower-moon-astroid-city-1235539707/ Indiana Jones and the Killers of the Flower Moon Asteroid City is a film I want to see… ThePenitentMan1, GerateWohl, Cerebral Cortex and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Not Mr. Big 4,645 Posted March 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 1, 2023 24 minutes ago, Jay said: Disney in considering having Indy 5 debut at Cannes this May https://variety.com/2023/film/markets-festivals/hollywood-cannes-indiana-jones-5-killers-of-the-flower-moon-astroid-city-1235539707/ Trying to recreate the success of KOTCS Cerebral Cortex, crumbs, Naïve Old Fart and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 4 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said: Trying to recreate the success of KOTCS Well, it *did* get a standing ovation back then, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TolkienSS 409 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Muad'Dib said: Well, it *did* get a standing ovation back then, so... ... so even that crowd was ecstatic it was over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,603 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 4 hours ago, TolkienSS said: ... so even that crowd was ecstatic it was over. Of course they were; it was over! Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,160 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 The Dial of Destiny will be rated PG-13, which would suggest that the picture is locked. Not Mr. Big and Brando 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,421 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 People smoking can be a reason a film is PG13 instead of PG now? Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andy 4,160 Posted March 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2023 Well, if it's the late 60s, Dr. Jones could be smoking something... medicinal. crumbs, Manakin Skywalker, Brando and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brando 1,864 Posted March 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Andy said: Well, if it's the late 60s, Dr. Jones could be smoking something... medicinal. Could Dr. Jones have traveled to Woodstock?? Jurassic Shark, Andy, Manakin Skywalker and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andy 4,160 Posted March 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2023 Dr. Jones! Don’t smoke that! It’s bad! Spit it out!!!! Brando, Yavar Moradi, Smeltington and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,973 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Its Emeritus Jones now... If Indy was still just in Grad school in Raiders or Temple of Doom, one could say there's a nice progression there, I guess. But alas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,120 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 7 hours ago, Jay said: People smoking can be a reason a film is PG13 instead of PG now? Wow! The film also has language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,421 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Sure, but it's obvious what PG language vs PG13 language vs R language is. I didn't know that smoking alone could make a film PG13 these days (they list everything that makes it the rating given) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,349 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 JW mentioned Helena smoking in the film when he premiered her theme's violin arrangement, but I didn't think it'd make the final cut. I assume it's just cigarettes though, otherwise there'd be a warning about drug references, right? Bit of a missed opportunity given the time period, but it's Disney after all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,654 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 I don’t think there’s a hard and fast rule such as “smoking=PG-13.” From what I can find online, the MPAA considers smoking, including all aspects of the smoking in the movie (who’s smoking, how prominent it is onscreen, how long it is, whether the smoking is glorified) in their ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,349 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Yeah I don't think the film is PG13 because of the smoking, but the violence. I trust Mangold to deliver on that front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,900 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Yeah there's absolutely no way it would possibly have been PG. PG-13 is now what PG was in the 70's/80's. A PG Indy film in this day in age would mean practically zero action. Interesting they went through all the trouble of removing the cigarettes from the bar scene just for the trailer. Certainly not the first time Disney has done that sort of thing for advertising though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andy 4,160 Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2023 “Joints… why’d it have to be joints?” “Blunts. Very dangerous. You toke first. “ crumbs, Brando, Giftheck and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,421 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 46 minutes ago, crumbs said: Yeah I don't think the film is PG13 because of the smoking, but the violence. I trust Mangold to deliver on that front. They list every reason it has the rating it has instead of the one lower. For example if a film had a PG13 level of violence and a R level of swearing, it would say "rated R for language", not "rated R for language and violence". But then if they took out enough swears it garnered a PG13, it would say "rated PG13 for language and violence" So if there's such thing as levels of smoking that are different in a PG vs a PG13, this one has the PG13 level since they included it in the explanation of the rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,731 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 So if PG-13 would have been a thing in 1981, would Raiders have gotten it because Belloq (“Bellosh”) is smoking that hookah? To say nothing of Marion rudely blowing smoke in Toht’s face? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,421 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Well that's what I was originally trying to say, that I'm surprised in 2023 the MPAA considers smoking something that can elevate a film to PG13. I'm sure in 1981 that absolutely wasn't the case, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 1,864 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Unrelated to the smoking, it was given the R rating when they first submitted it, because of Belloq's head exploding, so they added a sheet of flame over the shot and that took it down to PG. Same thing with Doom when the victims body catches on fire, you can see the extra flame they added over it to 'cover' up the victim writhing about. Jay and Andy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,654 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 9 hours ago, Jay said: Well that's what I was originally trying to say, that I'm surprised in 2023 the MPAA considers smoking something that can elevate a film to PG13. I'm sure in 1981 that absolutely wasn't the case, no. There are some things regarding smoking that the MPAA apparently now considers R-rated - such as minors smoking! Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,384 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Raiders would likely be a 12A if made today ... apart from what's already been mentioned, the likes of Toht's face melting and even some of the bullet impacts in the likes of the bar fight wouldn't be OK in a PG. The Surgeon General's smoking warning in the end credits of Licence To Kill always tickled me (although I believe it may have been because Lark cigarettes had product placement via the explosives trigger thingy disguised as a pack of smokes). I mean, of all the potentially life-threatening things to single out in a Bond film ... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 6,654 Posted March 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2023 I always forget how freewheeling older PG movies were. Realized it somewhere around the thirtieth “shit” my kid heard in Back to the Future the other night. ThePenitentMan1, enderdrag64, Brando and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,384 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, mstrox said: I always forget how freewheeling older PG movies were. Realized it somewhere around the thirtieth “shit” my kid heard in Back to the Future the other night. This set me thinking about the bit in Romancing The Stone where Jack and Joan burn the wacky-baccy stash they find in the crashed plane and clearly 'enjoy' the smoke ... off I went to its Wiki page to make sure I was right about that, and discovered that Fox were so convinced upon viewing a rough cut that it was going to flop that Zemeckis was kicked off Cocoon. It consequently turning out to be Fox's only major hit of '84 is what got him the BTTF job. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,603 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 If we can have: "I fucked it up", and "For fuck's sake", in "12" certificated films, we can have a wee bit of smoking in a PG-13. Actually, in the UK, we had: "It was nothing like that, penis breath!", and a teenager attempting to goose a divorced mother of three, in a "U" certificate film Sweeping Strings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,384 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Terminator 3 was 12A with (I think) 3 'fucks' and some quite bloody violence at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 919 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, Sweeping Strings said: Terminator 3 was 12A with (I think) 3 'fucks' and some quite bloody violence at times. They used their two fucks allotment in a single sentence 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,384 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Am now trying to figure out if a Two Fucks Allotment would have fertile or barren ground, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldfinger 59 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 If I remember correctly, the fact that smoking occurs is pointed out in ratings in any film now, regardless of whether its G or R. It's just a policy they implemented some time back that it has to get listed in the MPA rating, hence why most films shy away from showing it at this point. It may have evolved to be a ratings consideration by its own at this point, but I believe if a character smokes in the film it will be listed regardless at this point. Brando and Jay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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