Popular Post GerateWohl 4,373 Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2023 6 hours ago, JTW said: The budget won't allow it. It's already one of the most expensive films ever made at a budget of $300 million. It will have to make $850-900 million just to break even. If they had spent $100 million of the 300 just on Williams' score, it would have been well invested. Edmilson, Gabriel Bezerra, JTN and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,047 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 I hope he got paid at least $100 million (I wish). He absolutely deserves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 1,864 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: We need a return of narrow art movies. Where's Lucas when we need him? Supervising post production on Episodes X-XII. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,673 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 3 hours ago, JTW said: I hope he got paid at least $100 million (I wish). He absolutely deserves it. Let's hope so. I heard that he has been saving up to buy a turtle. JTN and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,091 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Tom said: Let's hope so. I heard that he has been saving up to buy a turtle. It would be a great accessorise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenturnedblue 372 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Brando said: Supervising post production on Episodes X-XII. They're already finished actually! Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 1,864 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, greenturnedblue said: They're already finished actually! Wait did I say X-XII? I meant XIII-XV! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 7,473 Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, Brando said: Wait did I say X-XII? I meant XIII-XV! Meh. I'm more hyped for Star Wars Episode XXX. JTN, MaxMovieMan and Brando 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Tom said: Let's hope so. I heard that he has been saving up to buy a turtle. Is that the slang term kids use for turtlenecks these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romão 2,274 Posted May 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2023 This may have been mentioned before, but I had no idea the Dial of Destiny was based on an actual artifact: This is very interesting stuff Brando, Gabriel Bezerra and pete 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 All the Indiana Jones artifacts are based on real/supposedly real artifacts or types of artifacts. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brónach 1,302 Posted May 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2023 9 hours ago, A. A. Ron said: All the Indiana Jones artifacts are based on real/supposedly real artifacts or types of artifacts. Skull is interestingly based on several hoaxes joined together. What a frustrating movie. imo, "there's a city and there's a bunch of guys with no development who try to kill the heroes and then everything blows up and it lasts ten minutes" isn't really engaging,. and the place is in the title. and what is the point of taking the skull to Cuzcotopia if Cuzcotopia doesn't matter? Shouldn't the second half of the movie take place there with characters from there? It's really weirdly done in hindsight. the script is still too trapped in Darabont's script. you may not even need the soviets or the fbi at all (although the fbi could be fun if it were actually used. 1957 is a little late but Indy is an academic with criminal activities who fought nazis and went in weird trips he's a prime target. you could also have him spend the entire movie outside the USA because of this, but you know we can't have that). "the aliens are here to study us" is, granted, spielbergian and "the aliens are archeologists" is fun but it's just vaguely added after the fact once you realize how empty the whole thing is. it's just not part of the movie. crumbs, Holko, Romão and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TolkienSS 407 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Crystal Skull borrows from a crapload of things that actually exist, especially the "aliens are archeologists" nod. Its filmic qualities are questionable at best, but the actual story and realization is intriguing in a parascientific way. bruce marshall and oierem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,532 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 The trilogy tap into well-established mythical ancient artifacts that already have centuries of background to them in various literature. KOCS taps into debunked hoaxes and racist conspiracy theories. DOD apparently taps into... a thing that was found? Unlucky Bastard, Brando and MaxMovieMan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,722 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 3 hours ago, Holko said: The trilogy tap into well-established mythical ancient artifacts that already have centuries of background to them in various literature. KOCS taps into debunked hoaxes and racist conspiracy theories. I don’t know about the Crystal Skull’s being “racist”, but I do agree that it’s all based on rubbish paranormal, pseudoscientific conspiracy theories, as opposed to the ancient and grounded religious artifacts, all based on well-established myth, in the first three films. 3 hours ago, Holko said: DOD apparently taps into... a thing that was found? No comment, as this is a spoiler-free zone. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,532 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Nick1Ø66 said: I don’t know about the Crystal Skull’s being “racist”, Maybe not that much within the movie but there's an underlying element of "stupid brown people couldn't have built all that, it must have been aliens!" to the concept. Unlucky Bastard, Brando, MaxMovieMan and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 imo the whole grail stuff is not that old. it's merely medieval literature. as for Temple "being based on things", bah, grumble, grumble, sigh interestingly, UFO lore and usamerican UFO lore in particular seems to be about 80% the same as a lot of late 19th century early 20th century Irish folklore (probably also British, I'm just less familiar with that), so there was that way to ground it into something (also medieval); however, Spielberg had already done that point by point... GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,722 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 52 minutes ago, Holko said: Maybe not that much within the movie but there's an underlying element of "stupid brown people couldn't have built all that, it must have been aliens!" to the concept. Meh. They say the same thing about Stonehenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,722 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Brónach said: imo the whole grail stuff is not that old. it's merely medieval literature. Old enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 yeah it's old enough for me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 I wanted a Short Round movie with John Powell scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Ke Huy Quan is too old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 On 26/05/2023 at 5:58 AM, Holko said: Maybe not that much within the movie but there's an underlying element of "stupid brown people couldn't have built all that, it must have been aliens!" to the concept. I think you've been sipping too many soy lattes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB Makes Stuff 240 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 On 26/5/2023 at 5:58 AM, Holko said: Maybe not that much within the movie but there's an underlying element of "stupid brown people couldn't have built all that, it must have been aliens!" to the concept. Huh? Where the hell did you get that from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 3 hours ago, King Mark said: I think you've been sipping too many soy lattes. Much of popular pseudo-archeology and ancient alien bullshit in particular has obvious racist overtones whether you want to admit it or not. The Indiana Jones films do perpetuate these cultural ideas, but that said, I wouldn’t call them major offenders in terms of spreading racist ideas (well arguably Temple of Doom might be…). They’re just modern serial adventures and can comfortably be described as “mostly harmless.” IMO, of course. MaxMovieMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 28 minutes ago, A. A. Ron said: Pseudo archeology and ancient alien bullshit in particular has obvious racist overtones whether you want to admit it or not. Sounds like a typical social justice warrior comment (who are experts at finding something "problematic" with almost every movie ever made). And Temple of Doom was one of the best movie theatrical experiences in my life. I kind of feel bad for people who can't enjoy these movies for what they are because they're too obsessed in finding racism, sexism or something phobic in everything. MaxMovieMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 7 hours ago, Brónach said: Harrison Ford is too old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 I'm just now reminded of Quinton Reviews videos on those History Channel programs, with the point that these conspiracy theorists unintentionally imply that people of color got all the cool alien shit and white folk didn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 53 minutes ago, King Mark said: Sounds like a typical social justice warrior comment (who are experts at finding something "problematic" with almost every movie ever made). And Temple of Doom was one of the best movie theatrical experiences in my life. I kind of feel bad for people who can't enjoy these movies for what they are because they're too obsessed in finding racism, sexism or something phobic in everything. Oh yeah? Well yours was the half-baked response of someone who hates seeing discrimination criticized and yet feels they have the moral high ground over people who are actually brave enough to address such issues. It is just as important to talk about racism, sexism, homophobia and general bigotry today as it ever was and it’s disgusting that so many people insist on sticking their fingers in their ears so they can pretend these problems don’t exist. MaxMovieMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Um, ToD? I thought it was KotCS that was being discussed (and even then fairly loosely if it's just about its inspirations). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 I believe Holko was discussing Crystal Skull. Temple of Doom gets flack for portraying Indians as savages who eat monkey brains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 I always saw the ToD supper scene as people from a different culture who eat things we're not accustomed to and might appear gross to us, and that's what made the scene funny. Not sure what's racist about it. But It appears you have a much broader definition of what racism is than I do. MaxMovieMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 1 hour ago, A. A. Ron said: It is just as important to talk about racism, sexism, homophobia and general bigotry today as it ever was and it’s disgusting that so many people insist on sticking their fingers in their ears so they can pretend these problems don’t exist. Whatever, watching movies and playing video games with this mindset doesn't sound like fun. MaxMovieMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 The notion that one can still be appreciative of a work in spite of having cultural issues with it is apparently difficult to believe for some. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,532 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 I didn't say the movie is explicitly racist, I said it had much different and weaker inspirations than the previous ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 39 minutes ago, HunterTech said: The notion that one can still be appreciative of a work in spite of having cultural issues with it is apparently difficult to believe for some. Well, if your able see it in a more detached ,analytical way, and still enjoy the movie, I guess at the end of the day you don't really care that stuff is in there and just acknowledge it. But if some of these things start offending you on a personal level to the point of making you feel uncomfortable, that probably makes the movie much less enjoyable. 35 minutes ago, Holko said: I didn't say the movie is explicitly racist, I said it had much different and weaker inspirations than the previous ones. KotC is a pretty shit movie, but for many more reasons than the supposed racist undertones. I guess we can agree on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,532 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 27 minutes ago, King Mark said: KotC is a pretty shit movie, but for many more reasons than the supposed racist undertones. I guess we can agree on that. Of course. While watching I hate it because while it's an awful looking meh/okay adventure movie, it's an awful looking crap Indy movie. MaxMovieMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 7 hours ago, King Mark said: who are experts at finding something "problematic" with almost every movie ever made. look some people are just not myopic 4 hours ago, HunterTech said: The notion that one can still be appreciative of a work in spite of having cultural issues with it is apparently difficult to believe for some. this happens to me a lot. there's lots of stuff that i like in the skill of it and that can make me talk or learn about the medium, that at the same time can carry dumn political inertia or intentional things (those are different) or subtle or overt stuff (those are different) at the same time. i call this "good stuff but ugh" because i don't have a word for this. unfortunately the myopia people sometimes try to prop up the "ugh stuff and ugh" into "good stuff but ugh", which is pretty ridiculous imo. not anything can manage to become "good stuff but ugh" under normal circumstances. Kingdom for example is not "good stuff but ugh" at all. Temple has elements of "good stuff" among the ugh. That's why Temple is actually frustrating, but one has to make an effort to reemember the existence of Kingdom. A. A. Ron and HunterTech 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,722 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 7 hours ago, HunterTech said: I'm just now reminded of Quinton Reviews videos on those History Channel programs, with the point that these conspiracy theorists unintentionally imply that people of color got all the cool alien shit and white folk didn't Hey, again, the aliens built Stonehenge for the white folk! And they gave us Tom Cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 7 hours ago, HunterTech said: I'm just now reminded of Quinton Reviews videos on those History Channel programs, with the point that these conspiracy theorists unintentionally imply that people of color got all the cool alien shit and white folk didn't the aliens gave us all that music stuff i guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,373 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 I recently saw a documentry about the Indiana Jones series which quite clearly described that Indiana Jones stood from the very beginning in the footsteps of a highly colonialistic and racist genre of adventure movies from the 30s, 40s and 50s. I mean , think about, by today's standards: Travel around the world, get some statue out of a temple, take it home and put it into your local museum. Not possible anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 They do it with fossils, and they do it in war. does "Raiders" work as some sort of redemption story? i kind of always get that vibe with that one. "Temple" even verbalizes something similar but different, but it gets a bit muddled Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,246 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 One month to go! Brando and Andy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,143 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Found this on my feed. I like the satisfied feeling of it. (although his jacket is wrong) ThePenitentMan1 and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,641 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Indiana Jones and the House of Wax Brando and MaxMovieMan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,969 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Character posters! Gabriel Bezerra and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 I thought the fourth poster was Pedro Pascal at first Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,419 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Those look AI generated Awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,515 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Can they not figure out who the real Indiana Jones is? Harrison Ford's looks haven't changed that much, surely... ThePenitentMan1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,473 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, Bellosh said: Those look AI generated Awful Chances are, they probably were AI generated indeed. After all, Disney needs to cut costs and good designers are expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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