filmmusic 1,829 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 13 hours ago, Falstaft (hiatus til TROS) said: Jaws: Funny I was reminded of the exact same fanfare listening to the speeder chase theme: TheUlyssesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 35 minutes ago, gkgyver said: And although it's called Cloud City theme, it's become synonymous with Lando, duh! Yes, but the former is more well-known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Matessino calls it the Lando's march. http://www.jw-collection.de/scores/tesbse.htm Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaft 2,132 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 16 minutes ago, filmmusic said: Funny I was reminded of the exact same fanfare listening to the speeder chase theme: Yep! That's the "peppy" upbeat variant I mentioned in the original post, though I meant to refer to its presence on the OST, not FYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDementous 1,059 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I can't watch that YouTube video because it was taken down for copyright, could some upload the audio? That was a big stand out moment for me in the cinema and I'm disappointed it wasn't on the FYC or the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicCobb 194 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 hours ago, gkgyver said: And although it's called Cloud City theme, it's become synonymous with Lando, duh! The difference is Luke's theme took on new meaning through expanded use by Williams in the successive films. The Cloud City theme has only taken on the meaning of "Lando's theme" because listeners have called it that. It hasn't been used in any way since TESB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 907 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 And it never struck me as portraying the character at all, rather the beautiful city. Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DarthDementous 1,059 Posted December 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2019 It was definitely meant to represent Cloud City, and the almost sickly serene happiness of the sound was meant to convey that something was off about this place, that there was something lurking under a facade that was trying just a bit too hard to appear innocent. crumbs, DolceMecha and Smeltington 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lairdo 726 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 6 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said: Tracked. I recognized the stuffy ROTJ recording in the theater. That was my sense too and for the same reason. greenturnedblue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted December 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2019 Really can't get enough of that statement of Kylo's/Ben's theme in Farewell, what with the new way Williams chooses to resolve it, the new orchestral presentation, and that new additional note at the end. It's so good that it literally retroactively redefines how we, the listener, hear every other instance of that theme prior to this one. When we first hear it in TFA, you think that that's it, that's Kylo Ren's theme! We're hearing it in full. But now you go back to listen to it after hearing it in Farewell and it feels like the theme is just hanging there in the air, incomplete, waiting to be resolved with that additional note. And it never does until 4 years and 2 films later when Ren's arc as a character (whether intended or not from the beginning) is resolved. And that unresolved nature to it almost seems like a deliberate choice now, as if Williams somehow was waiting for the moment in Farewell to finally complete it. God, it's so good. Perhaps that "unresolved" nature of his theme was clear from the start and I just never got it until now. Perhaps I'm just reading too much into this whole thing in general (quite possible!). All I know is that it's a genius statement of his theme and comparing that final instance with the first time we hear it is bonkers development that only someone like Williams could pull off. And he doesn't even dwell on it. It's such a fleeting moment, over and done with in 10 seconds! Ugh. JWMike, Ricard, Taikomochi and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BoD 3 Posted December 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2019 Hello, World! This is my first post on this forum :) I don't know if this is famous but there's a track in Episode VII ("Finn's Confession") that starts exactly like another track from Episode I ("The High Council Meeting and Qui Gon's Funeral"). Well I've watched Episode IX twice already and I swear you can ALSO hear the same beginning in another track, which plays in the movie during the scene where Finn talks to the female ex-stormtrooper, when she tells her story. Unfortunately this track is neither in the official OST, nor on the "FYC" (I've just listened to it) :( Thoughts? crumbs, Will and Cerebral Cortex 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 The use of that Prequel melody in TFA is interesting, because there is no obvious thematic context between the two scenes. Maybe just temp track love? Didn't catch it in TROS, nice. There's almost no Prequel music in this new trilogy, for some reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 yeah but it's not tracked it's new music that sounds like TPM and AotC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 The opening of Finn's Confession sounds like TPM, because the melody comes from that film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I noticed the recurrence of Finn's Confession for that scene as well, which fits well thematically with that TROS scene (purely quoting the TFA version, because it has no correlation to the equivalent scenes in TPM). It seemed to go off in a new direction though, so presumably a new cue JW wrote for TROS. Probably temp track love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,457 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Considering that the ST is all about reminding people of their love for the OT, while at the same time making them forget the PT, it's a little weird to see Williams quoting random cues from TPM and AOTC on the new trilogy, like Talk of Podracing on Finn's Confession and The Arrival at Tatooeine on that Poe/Zori scene. Maybe this is just a case of temp track love? Many people pointed that some action scenes on TLJ (Rose's sister dropping the bombs on the Star Destroyer, Holdo's Resolve) seemed to be tracked with Battle of Heroes. Or maybe it's Williams James Horner-ing? "I've written this stuff for this other movie, but you know... It would be great if I put it on this new film I'm working on!". It wouldn't be the first time for him. *cof cof Harry Potter cof cof* Joe Brausam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,658 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Is it just my imagination, or did Williams put the Raiders music in during the emperor face-melting scene similar to the Raider's scene? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Seriously I can't hum any new themes from the film, I have yet to listen to the OST or FYC CDs...but I didn't recognise any new melody as memorable as Rey's theme or kylo ren motif or the resistance march... :/ I have to listen to the CDs asap. #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 685 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Luke Skywalker said: Seriously I can't hum any new themes from the film, I have yet to liste to de OST or fyc CDs...but I didn't recognise any new melody as memorable as Rey's theme or kylo ren motif... :/ Well I’ve been humming them for over a week now, so please do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I'm stuck with this melody in my head for a couple of days now. Unfortunately I saw it didn't have any narrative role in the film: Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,129 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 19 hours ago, King Mark said: Aaaaand my most wanted unreleased cue ever: The spectacular, glorious version of the Star Wars main theme during the space battle. That was NOT the Main Title version at all. I can't believe nobody is mentioning it. Wait, for real? That's not on the FYC or OST? (I haven't listened yet... sort of delaying gratification). That music and scene brought tears to my eyes. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alan 689 Posted December 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2019 48 minutes ago, Hedji said: Wait, for real? That's not on the FYC or OST? (I haven't listened yet... sort of delaying gratification). That music and scene brought tears to my eyes. One of many absolutely stunning musical moments that didn't make the album or FYC! I'm in full agreement with others here in that a complete TROS release has jumped to the top of my grail list. I didn't expect that to happen so instantly! crumbs, Tiburon, Cerebral Cortex and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,287 Posted December 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2019 On 12/20/2019 at 5:05 PM, Jay said: Here's a cool 2 minute long unreleased cue from near the beginning of the film featuring terrific iterations of The Emperor's Theme, The Force Theme, and Rey's Theme This was a cool one. Aside from the big Luke's Theme for Lando's fleet, obviously, this probably stood out to me the most from the unreleased stuff. The intense little string ostinato reminds me a bit of "The Dueling Club" Docteur Qui, Will and Falstaft 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 There is a LOT of temp love in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tydirium 1,167 Posted December 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2019 The music when Kylo fights the Knights of Ren and Rey fights Palpatine's guards is quite possibly my #1 most wanted unreleased cue... It's an absolute travesty that wasn't included on either the OST or FYC. Tiburon, Demondm810, crumbs and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,287 Posted December 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2019 Also something I wanted to point out, I've had my pet interpretation of the variation of Rey's Theme that gets a reprise in "Destiny of a Jedi", that it represented Rey's resisting her "call" in TFA and then later embracing it... On 3/26/2016 at 11:04 PM, mrbellamy said: By the way, really, how great is that transitional variation of the theme, the soaring one that we get in "Maz's Counsel" and "Farewell and the Trip" and on French Horn in the theme track? I was just thinking about how I've grown to love the different facets of this theme and how he uses them throughout the movie, and that one works so well as almost a kind of "call to adventure" signal, yeah? It feels like such a bold statement and I love how the first time you hear it, she's resisting the lightsaber at Maz's and it sounds almost like a cry for help as she's running away. But then later in the forest when Chewie arrives in the Falcon, this melody becomes inspiring with Rey having accepted "the call." This is how I've always thought about it since and I feel like this function still holds up in Rise of Skywalker, with Rey exiling herself on Ahch-To. Rey’s “destiny” motif perhaps. Will, Cerebral Cortex and Falstaft 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 9 hours ago, BoD said: I don't know if this is famous but there's a track in Episode VII ("Finn's Confession") that starts exactly like another track from Episode I ("The High Council Meeting and Qui Gon's Funeral"). Well I've watched Episode IX twice already and I swear you can ALSO hear the same beginning in another track, which plays in the movie during the scene where Finn talks to the female ex-stormtrooper, when she tells her story. Unfortunately this track is neither in the official OST, nor on the "FYC" (I've just listened to it) Thoughts? Here it is, listen and report back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 @Jay do you have the clip of the "Lando arrival with all the ships" cue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 The music where Poe and Zorii talk on Kajimi is the same music from when Clieg Lars tells Anakin about the sandpeople taking his mother. Saw it a second time today and I still didn't notice any new themes other than a percussion cue for the Knights of Ren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Tydirium said: The music when Kylo fights the Knights of Ren and Rey fights Palpatine's guards is quite possibly my #1 most wanted unreleased cue... It's an absolute travesty that wasn't included on either the OST or FYC. Yes that was absolutely killer music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I'm not going to read through this whole thread but I heard I think was practically tracked music or re-recorded segment from "Plans For The Twins". Seemed like note for note for the first segment with the force theme but I don't remember what scene. It stuck out to me. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 Right now I'm trying to figure out what's up with the The Old Death Star OST track, specifically the music heard from 1:22-2:21. 0:00-1:22 of the OST track (so through the Imperial March and the little drum bit that follows) matches 0:00-1:16 of the FYC track with the same name, and covers the group, having crashed the Millennium Falcon on the surface of Kef Bir, walking to the shore, seeing the Death Star 2 remnants in the water, and Rey using the SIth dagger to figure out where the Wayfinder is. No problems there. (The FYC track is only 6 seconds shorter due to tiny portions being snipped out, IE JJ edited the scene down a bt after the original cue was recorded so some music went with the deleted footage) But then the OST track continues on with music from 1:22-2:21 that isn't heard in the film at all, while the FYC track presents completely different music from 1:16-end. Basically, the next scene in the film is when Jannah and her group show up at the shore right after Rey uses the dagger, the trio points their blasters at her crew, and then they talk a bit, and then Jannah offers to help them. The music in the film, so therefore also the FYC track, fits the scene very neatly, featuring Rey's theme when she talks, and Poe's theme when he talks.. But if you listen carefully to the FYC track, it seems very clear there's an edit at 1:16... which could indicate a segue to tracked music? Or a bad segue to an Insert? After that we have the scene where Finn and Jannah talk inside the Millenium Falcon, which was just posted a bit above if you want to hear it, which isn't on the FYC or OST at all. That scene also features music themes that neatly fit what's happening, ie the Force Theme as Finn mentions the Force brought him to Rey and co. That's immediately followed by the scene of Rey in the skimmer approaching the DS2, which is nicely presented by the "Off the Waterfront" cue, which is in its own FYC track, and appears in the OST track from 2:21-end. So that leaves me wondering... what is the music from 1:22-2:21 in the OST track!?!?!? The first thing I noticed is that as the OST track continues from the drum hit at 1:19 onward, there is nothing that sounds like an edit, and specifically, the up-beat music from 1:22-1:34 I think would have fit the on-screen action of Jannah showing up an the trio pointing their blasters at hew crew perfectly, since we don't now they are good guys yet. This could explain the awkward edit in the FYC track, like at the last minute JJ just felt this music wasn't quite right and had the music editor track in something else perhaps? But then what about the music from 1:34-2:21? It features The Resistance March and then Rey's Theme. Could this be JW's original cue for the crew talking to Jannah? Featuring Rey's Theme because she talks at the end? Or could this be JW's original version of Finn talking to Jannah? Featuring the Resistance Theme because they bond over leaving the First Order to join the Resistance, and Rey's Theme because Finn mentions her? What do people think? Does anyone recognize the music from 1:16-end of the FYC track as being tracked from something else? Falstaft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 30 minutes ago, Demodex said: The music where Finn talks to the female ex-stormtrooper on the Falcon is the same music from when Clieg Lars tells Anakin about the sandpeople taking his mother. Saw it a second time today and I still didn't notice any new themes other than a percussion cue for the Knights of Ren. I remember a percussion cue for Knights of Ren as well. It is prominent in the desert scene when they are all shown standing on the hilltop like the Nazgul. What's the new Kylo theme that Variety mentioned? Is it a character theme or the new badguys theme - Anthem of Evil? 4 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said: Seriously I can't hum any new themes from the film, I have yet to listen to the OST or FYC CDs...but I didn't recognise any new melody as memorable as Rey's theme or kylo ren motif or the resistance march... :/ I have to listen to the CDs asap. Th trio theme and the farewell theme are both instantly memorable to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said: What's the new Kylo theme that Variety mentioned? Is it a character theme or the new badguys theme - Anthem of Evil? I've been thinking about that, and I think what the Burlingame Variety article calls a "new theme for Kylo Ren" is the "Knights of Ren" motif we discussed on the last page or somewhere around there. It's not the Anthem of Evil, because he lists that separately Quote The famous “Star Wars” themes — including the opening fanfare, music for the Force and themes for Rey and the Emperor — return, along with four new motifs: the darkly hued “Anthem of Evil,” an optimistic “Rise of Skywalker” theme, a scherzo for action sequences and new music for Kylo Ren (Adam Driver). Incidentally, I think the rising and falling theme is a theme for the Wayfinder and Burlingame didn't notice it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jay said: I've been thinking about that, and I think what the Burlingame Variety article calls a "new theme for Kylo Ren" is the "Knights of Ren" motif we discussed on the last page or somewhere around there. It's not the Anthem of Evil, because he lists that separately Incidentally, I think the rising and falling theme is a theme for the Wayfinder and Burlingame didn't notice it I think he wouldn't himself make that determination and name the themes that JW's PR gave him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 I don't follow what you're saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 The writer I don't think is sophisticated enough to watch the films and listen to the soundtrack and determine what the new themes are. Most of these writers are dumb fucks as you know. So he isn't expressing his opinion about the new themes, someone from Disney or JW's PR told him what were the new themes so that he could include it in his article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 OK hold on, back up, Jon Burlingame is not a dumb fuck. Have you seriously never heard of him before? Anyways, I still don't understand what you are trying to say about what theme is what The article says: Quote along with four new motifs: the darkly hued “Anthem of Evil,” it's clear what this one is an optimistic “Rise of Skywalker” theme, its clear what this one is, he's referring to both the "Trio Theme" and the "Farewell Theme" as one theme because they are combined in the concert arrangement a scherzo for action sequences it's clear what this one is and new music for Kylo Ren (Adam Driver). this is the only thing it's unclear what he means. I personally think it means the Knights of Ren Theme, but it could mean the "rising and falling motif" aka what I consider the Wayfinder Theme. MikeH and Falstaft 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jay said: OK hold on, back up, Jon Burlingame is not a dumb fuck. Have you seriously never heard of him before? Anyways, I still don't understand what you are trying to say about what theme is what The article says: I actually have not heard of him. I thought he is one of those hack writers who like the "songs" in the star wars score. My only point is that - we might want to look for a Kylo theme - because JW might himself have told Variety that. The other option we have of course is that the writer was mistaken - which might be a more reasonable assumption given the FYC and the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Falstaft 2,132 Posted December 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said: The writer I don't think is sophisticated enough to watch the films and listen to the soundtrack and determine what the new themes are. Most of these writers are dumb fucks as you know. So he isn't expressing his opinion about the new themes, someone from Disney or JW's PR told him what were the new themes so that he could include it in his article. Jon Burlingame is one of the most respected film music scholars and journalists out there. He knows what he's talking about. I agree with @Jay on what Burlingame (and by extension maybe Williams himself) referring to with these descriptions. The new "Kylo Ren motif" is the one that's closely tied to the Knights of Ren. I vaguely remember maybe one or two statements where the KoR aren't present though -- correct me if I'm wrong about that. I don't think Burlingame has the Wayfinder motif in mind, which, while fantastic, is pretty melodically distinct, more of a texture & harmony than a theme. Will, Tydirium, Fabulin and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 Yes plus the Wayfinder Theme only appears twice in the score I think, so could have been easy to miss. The Knights of Ren theme occurs throughout the entire score, and might have originally appeared more before the final cut was edited down so much especialy in the prologue area. I don't think the theme is on the OST at all, and only appears twice on the FYC. Right now I can't remember specifically what is happening on the screen the other times it is used in the film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I finally found a word how ROS makes me feel: sad. It's without a doubt a heroic effort by Williams, but I don't feel "it". The unreleased music doesn't change that. I feel like the score does nothing to make the film sound unique, and I feel like the orchestrations are somewhat plain, and there are too many been there done that tropes in there. Rey's theme isn't interesting enough to carry 3 movies, and there are no setpieces whatsoever. I know that Speeder Chase is supposed to be that, but at some point, I'm just tired of the usual brass triplets and unmotivated woodwind flourishes. The score lacks direction and, in a word, impact. Williams used to do several concert pieces and setpieces even for a crappy film like Crystal Skull. Nothing of the sort is present here. The random inclusion of old cues, like Yoda's theme in the finale, is just headscratching for me. The finale is the most disappointing of all 9 films. Just a rehash of TFA. The score lacks vibrant orchestrations, the percussion section is just bare minimum. Athem Of Evil is interesting, but nothing I can see listening to over and over. Rey's theme and Rose's theme are the only two takeaways from this trilogy of scores. That's just not enough for me. I remember when ROTS came out, and people were divided over it. ROTS runs circles around ROS. I'd kill for a piece like Battle Of The Heroes now, which people back then described as a plain power anthem. Anyhow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 On 12/20/2019 at 8:54 PM, pete said: Was the "Han Solo and the Princess" quote tracked from The Empire Strikes Back? Reminded me of one of the Bespin quotes. On 12/20/2019 at 9:34 PM, Balahkay said: I think the “Han Solo and the Princess” bit was tracked from TFA. Are you guys talking about the quote at the end of this unreleased cue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Why so much tracked music in this film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Luke Skywalker said: Why so much tracked music in this film? Because JJ Abrahms' movies are made in the edit and re-edited to the very last minute. He makes decisions as he goes and "discovers" the movie as he edits which impacts the score and even the narrative itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted December 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Luke Skywalker said: Why so much tracked music in this film? Because JW has a life. He cannot score every whim and fancy that JJ has two days before the premiere. JW can score the cuts he gets to an extent - but after that - JJ can fuck off. Edmilson, crumbs, Cerebral Cortex and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I mainly meant tracked from other films. I hope Williams wrote some music for those scenes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,457 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 But even by Abrams' standards, the music is a huge mess on the movie. I tried to listen to the film version of the Speeder Chase, and I honestly can't believe that this isn't a cue created combining several mini cues from other places (including even initial versions of the Speeder Chase music). Speeder Chase is 2019's On the Conveyor Belt, but worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Trent B said: I'm not going to read through this whole thread but I heard I think was practically tracked music or re-recorded segment from "Plans For The Twins". Seemed like note for note for the first segment with the force theme but I don't remember what scene. It stuck out to me. Yes, I heard this too! Sounded tracked from ROTS. From memory it was a scene with Poe and Lando talking to Leia after she's died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Jay said: Since Rey has nothing to do with the prologue that exists in the film now, I can't imagine what her theme is doing there The thing is, the prologue as it exists in the final cut has nothing to do with Rey. The footage scored by her theme there is just Kylo Ren in ship approaching Exegol. Since the whole snippet of music in the FYC from 0:56-1:28 seems to have been snipped out of the OST at 2:33 of Journey to Exegol, I don't really get what the opening of film was like when Williams, unless it was bouncing back and forth between Rey training as Kylo hunts for the Wayfinder then uses it to get to Exegol or something 58 minutes ago, Tydirium said: It's worth noting that, unless I'm mistaken, that exact same music is later used for when Rey also flies to Exegol—although I think I remember her theme that time being played higher, by horns rather than trombones. I could be misremembering. But I almost wonder if that bit was written for her scene first, and then reused for the beginning with Kylo(?). HOLY CRAP I THINK YOU'RE ONTO SOMETHING HERE. Listen to this unreleased cue from late in the film when Rey arrives on Exegol: NOW I'm wondering if that OST track represents some music he wrote for the third act, NOT music he wrote for the Prologue, but after JJ restructured the prologue and tracked music from this cue into it, he moved it towards the beginning of the OST album to reflect that. Woah! DarthDementous and Edmilson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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