Popular Post JNHFan2000 2,966 Posted March 19 Popular Post Share Posted March 19 https://attractionsmagazine.com/2024-disney-legends-include-joe-rohde-john-williams-angela-bassett-and-harrison-ford/ Among a few other names like Harrison Ford & Angela Bassett, John Williams will become a Disney Legend on August 11. BB-8, enderdrag64, Manakin Skywalker and 7 others 6 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smeltington 1,440 Posted March 19 Popular Post Share Posted March 19 "Disney Legends Award recipients will also participate in a hand print ceremony at the end of the event, and their bronzed prints will be displayed in the Disney Legends Plaza at the company’s Burbank headquarters." Think John will show up for this? Maybe Harrison will have a new colonoscopy story to share with him? Andy, Brando, crumbs and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bollemanneke 3,349 Posted March 19 Popular Post Share Posted March 19 JW should write a score for this occasion which Disney can then fuck up in a legacy collection set in 20 years and pretend it didn't happen. crumbs, igger6, Bellosh and 6 others 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geom_00 36 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Ever since Disney bought Star Wars, I was WAITING for this to happen. I might be in the minority here, but I am glad this will be happening. Brando and JTN 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 7,466 Posted March 19 Popular Post Share Posted March 19 8 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: JW should write a score for this occasion which Disney can then fuck up in a legacy collection set in 20 years and pretend it didn't happen. They should announce there that JW is writing the score and songs for Moana 2. The Rock singing a John Williams song would be awesome. Jurassic Shark, JTN, That_Bloke and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geom_00 36 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 3 minutes ago, Edmilson said: They should announce there that JW is writing the score and songs for Moana 2. The Rock singing a John Williams song would be awesome. Now all that we would need to see is The Rock and Temuera Morrison (Boba Fett) team up to do a Haka with the backing of a John Williams Polynesian sounding Drum piece. Edmilson and That_Bloke 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,660 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 24 minutes ago, Smeltington said: "Disney Legends Award recipients will also participate in a hand print ceremony at the end of the event, and their bronzed prints will be displayed in the Disney Legends Plaza at the company’s Burbank headquarters." Think John will show up for this? Maybe Harrison will have a new colonoscopy story to share with him? Jurassic Shark and Smeltington 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Does this mean Disney now owns John Williams? JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,534 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 37 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Does this mean Disney now owns John Williams? Why not? The Mouse owns just about every other fucking thing in the entire world. Jurassic Shark, Trope, Martinland and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 4,660 Posted March 19 Popular Post Share Posted March 19 4 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Does this mean Disney now owns John Williams? Just his hands, but the rest belongs to you. Trope, Brando, crumbs and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,466 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 If Disney owns John Williams, it's only a matter of time until they own JWFan as well. Brando, JTN and Naïve Old Fart 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 JW: For many years now, I've dreamed of becoming a Disney princess. Disney: It's Legend... JW: Bummer, are you sure? JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,395 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Why not? The Mouse owns just about every other fucking thing in the entire world. Oddly not Dune, Oppenheimer, Barbie, or even Mr. Beast. Currently the only new thing I'm watching on Disney+ is The Bad Batch. (And I'm loving it, sure.) Oh, yeah. Star Trek? Not Disney. And we all know Star Trek... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,138 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 If I were Johnny, I’d snub them for setting the artificial bar so high with all of Walt’s Oscar nominations that he didn’t really earn by himself. That_Bloke and JTN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WilliamsStarShip2282 308 Posted March 20 Popular Post Share Posted March 20 As much as I think JW should get every award possible, this is such horse shit. I guess since the company is borderline broke, they have to keep the gimmicks up Edmilson, JTN, QuartalHarmony and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 That is nice that they are giving this well-deserved recognition to the Maestro. JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 6 hours ago, Edmilson said: If Disney owns John Williams, it's only a matter of time until they own JWFan as well. Name your price, @Ricard JTN and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post igger6 894 Posted March 20 Popular Post Share Posted March 20 What a farce. Disney has gone so acquisition-mad under Iger that they’re now sending Bishop from X-Men (company employee!) decades into the past to inform various titans of pop culture that they’re actually working for Disney, who will own them forty years hence. I can’t quite articulate why this feels so icky to me, but it’s the same feeling I got when The Sound of Music and Miracle on 34th Street showed up in their respective decades on the Disney100 section of Disney+ last year. They were not affiliated with you! They were, in fact, directly competing with you! Disney is basically Mother Gothel now. GerateWohl, Holko, enderdrag64 and 7 others 6 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,353 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 3 hours ago, igger6 said: What a farce. Disney has gone so acquisition-mad under Iger that they’re now sending Bishop from X-Men (company employee!) decades into the past to inform various titans of pop culture that they’re actually working for Disney, who will own them forty years hence. I can’t quite articulate why this feels so icky to me, but it’s the same feeling I got when The Sound of Music and Miracle on 34th Street showed up in their respective decades on the Disney100 section of Disney+ last year. They were not affiliated with you! They were, in fact, directly competing with you! Disney is basically Mother Gothel now. Wasn't one of his late 80's/90's scores loosely affiliated with Disney? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 What's a disney legend and why does it matter? JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trope 527 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Just now, Holko said: What's a disney legend? Possibly related to Star Wars Legends? JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,370 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 25 minutes ago, Holko said: What's a disney legend The legend is, that Disney matters. 27 minutes ago, Holko said: and why does it matter? Because it doesn't. JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andy 4,138 Posted March 20 Popular Post Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, Holko said: What's a disney legend and why does it matter? GerateWohl, Holko, Cerebral Cortex and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,395 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 I'm not in the "Disney is the root of all evil" camp. But no, this one is not sitting well with me. Although he has done 4 full scores and a handful of themes for The Mouse. But we all know they're claiming his legendary days as "Disney". Even then... They get Star Wars, Indy, Willow, Home Alone, and....? (I mean, not a bad run for any composer.) But it's JW. If he wrote them a jingle last Tuesday he's still one of the most legendary composers they've ever employed! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,199 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 20 hours ago, Bespin said: JW: For many years now, I've dreamed of becoming a Disney princess. Disney: It's Legend... JW: Bummer, are you sure? Randy Newman simply crowned himself a Disney princess: Miguel Andrade and WilliamsStarShip2282 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuartalHarmony 543 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 5 hours ago, Tallguy said: they're claiming his legendary days as "Disney" History is written by the winners owners. JTN and WilliamsStarShip2282 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 7,466 Posted March 20 Popular Post Share Posted March 20 JNH has written numerous Disney scores as well, everything from Dinosaur, Atlantis, Treasure Planet, Raya, Maleficent, every Shyamalan movie from The Sixth Sense until The Village... Is he a Disney legend? And sure, even if you argue that most of these movies were flops but what about Thomas Newman, who did countless Pixar movies and even was nominated for an Oscar for two of them? ThePenitentMan1, JTN, Yavar Moradi and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,395 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 minute ago, Edmilson said: JNH has written numerous Disney scores as well, everything from Dinosaur, Atlantis, Treasure Planet, Raya, Maleficent, every Shyamalan movie from The Sixth Sense until The Village... Is he a Disney legend? And sure, even if you argue that most of these movies were flops but what about Thomas Newman, who did countless Pixar movies and even was nominated for an Oscar for two of them? I mean. Yes? Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 War Horse and Lincoln were both released under Touchstone Pictures, so those were released by Disney. There is also The BFG. Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trope 527 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 6 hours ago, Edmilson said: what about Thomas Newman, who did countless Pixar movies and even was nominated for an Oscar for two of them? Did you mean Randy? Tom has only done 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andy 4,138 Posted March 21 Popular Post Share Posted March 21 Ask yourself, Disney. Why do you give the Legend Award? Is it for his glory, or for yours? QuartalHarmony, BB-8, ThePenitentMan1 and 4 others 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Both, I guess. They're living in a symbiosis now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,660 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 I am just glad that I will no longer be the only one with bronzed prints of his hands in my office. People were starting to worry about me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 I could probably find out by googling around, but anyway - a question to all of you company-savvy people in here: Has Williams ever done a Disney film PRIOR to Disney acquiring Fox etc.? If not, it's a bit strange to get a "Disney Legend" award when all the titles are indirect Disney titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BB-8 3,478 Posted March 30 Popular Post Share Posted March 30 He used a Disney theme in CEOTTK. Andy, GerateWohl, Trope and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,199 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 2 hours ago, Thor said: If not, it's a bit strange to get a "Disney Legend" award when all the titles are indirect Disney titles. Star Wars is one of Disney's biggest franchises now, even if they didn't originate it. Regardless of whether you agree with them considering it their own (technically at least it is), at least they're consistent by honouring the people who made it what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 49 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: Star Wars is one of Disney's biggest franchises now, even if they didn't originate it. Regardless of whether you agree with them considering it their own (technically at least it is), at least they're consistent by honouring the people who made it what it is. Yeah, I suppose it's fine. I was just curious if Williams wrote anything DIRECTLY for Disney in his career, prior to the merger. I can't think of anything off the top of my head, but then I'm not an expert on labels and companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,660 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 28 minutes ago, Thor said: Yeah, I suppose it's fine. I was just curious if Williams wrote anything DIRECTLY for Disney in his career, prior to the merger. I can't think of anything off the top of my head, but then I'm not an expert on labels and companies. I am fairly sure that he did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,369 Posted March 30 Popular Post Share Posted March 30 On 30/03/2024 at 5:53 AM, Thor said: I could probably find out by googling around, but anyway - a question to all of you company-savvy people in here: Has Williams ever done a Disney film PRIOR to Disney acquiring Fox etc.? If not, it's a bit strange to get a "Disney Legend" award when all the titles are indirect Disney titles. Williams has scored these films directly for Disney: 1995 - Nixon (Hollywood Pictures) 2011 - War Horse (Touchstone Pictures) 2012 - Lincoln (Touchstone Pictures) 2015 - The Force Awakens (Disney) 2016 - The BFG (Disney) 2017 -The Last Jedi (Disney) 2019 - The Rise of Skywalker (Disney) 2023 - The Dial of Destiny (Disney) Disney's purchase of Lucasfilm in 2012 means they inherited these scores: 1977 - Star Wars 1980 - The Empire Strikes Back 1981 - The Raiders of the Lost Ark 1983 - The Return of the Jedi 1984 - The Temple of Room 1989 - The Last Crusade 1999 - The Phantom Menace 2002 - The Attack of the Clones 2005 - The Revenge of the Sith 2008 - The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull Disney's purchase of 20th Century Fox in 2019 means they inherited these scores: 1962 - Bachelor Flat 1965 - John Goldfarb, Please Come Home 1966 - How To Steal A Million 1967 - A Guide For The Married Man 1967 - Valley of the Dolls 1972 - The Poseidon Adventure 1973 - The Paper Chase 1973 - Cinderella Liberty 1974 - Conrack 1974 - The Towering Inferno 1978 - The Fury 1982 - Monsignor 1986 - SpaceCamp 1990 - Home Alone 1992 - Home Alone 2 2002 - Minority Report 2013 - The Book Thief 2017 - The Post enderdrag64, Brando, BB-8 and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Technically Disney didn't inherit A New Hope until they bought Fox, I believe I knew there had to be something like Nixon in there. I guess that and War Horse are the only two films he scored to be affiliated with Disney in any way before they acquired Lucasfilm. Lincoln was finished before the acquisition but released afterward. If he'd scored Bridge of Spies, that would have been a third under that Disney/DreamWorks deal via Touchstone. I guess The BFG remains the only one in his career that was produced, branded, and released worldwide as a bona-fide Disney movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,138 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 It’s such a stretch. It’s not like Harrison Ford grew up doing Disney family films like Kurt Russel, or John Williams scoring the Cat From Outer Space and Swiss Family Robinson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 A-ha! NIXON and WAR HORSE! The first is a very strong (and somewhat underrated) score, and the second one of the three best he's done since 2005. So even if there was no acquisition, at least there are those two! Googling around, it seems Hollywood Pictures closed shop in 2007, and Touchstone in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Lincoln also would have been released by Disney/Touchstone regardless, and I don't think there's any particular reason Spielberg still wouldn't have ended up doing The BFG for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 17 minutes ago, Jay said: Williams has scored these films directly for Disney: 1995 - Nixon (Hollywood Pictures) I thought Alan Menken did that one... Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Quote Lincoln also would have been released by Disney/Touchstone regardless, and I don't think there's any particular reason Spielberg still wouldn't have ended up doing The BFG for them. So should we count LINCOLN too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 I don't see why not. I mean, again, if any of those eight movies count at all as Disney, it's clearly The BFG. Everything else is splitting hairs. In terms of the actual production, Nixon doesn't seem to count as a Disney movie any more or less than The Rise of Skywalker, really. As Andy said, the whole "Disney Legend" thing is a stretch, anyway. Disney is more of a player in the John Williams story than John Williams is in the Disney story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 2 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: I don't see why not. I mean, again, if any of those eight movies count at all as Disney, it's clearly The BFG. Everything else is splitting hairs. I suppose, yes. No "inherited property" on that one. Doesn't matter if it's post-acquisition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,369 Posted March 30 Popular Post Share Posted March 30 Hollywood Pictures and Touchstone Pictures are companies created by, run by, and entirely owned by Disney. These companies were a way for Disney to release R-rated movies since they never do that under Disney branding. Nixon absolutely counts as projects that John Williams scored for the Disney company. War Horse, Lincoln, and if he had been able to do Bridge of Spies, he's doing those scores FOR Dreamworks, but Dreamworks was not distributing their films themselves any more by that point, hence the deal for Disney (through their Touchstone brand) to distribute them. Disney had no creative input on those, they were just distributing what Dreamworks gave them. Likewise, the Star Wars sequel scores and Indiana Jones 5 area films he's scoring for Disney. Sure he only worked with the directors and maybe the head of Lucasfilm (Kathleen Kennedy), but Disney execs could still meddle with those films (and very likely did) in a way that they could not do with those Dreamworks ones. enderdrag64, Brando, mrbellamy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,287 Posted March 30 Popular Post Share Posted March 30 Actually funnily enough, another piece that you could classify as "stealth Disney" is "Soundings" which he wrote for the debut of the Walt Disney Concert Hall. 16 minutes ago, Jay said: Hollywood Pictures and Touchstone Pictures are companies created by, run by, and entirely owned by Disney. These companies were a way for Disney to release R-rated movies since they never do that under Disney branding. Nixon absolutely counts as projects that John Williams scored for the Disney company. We all remember the great Disney villains. Maleficent. Cruella De Vil. Richard Nixon. Andy, Edmilson and Not Mr. Big 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 1 hour ago, mrbellamy said: Actually funnily enough, another piece that you could classify as "stealth Disney" is "Soundings" which he wrote for the debut of the Walt Disney Concert Hall. That's true. Never even thought of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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