Popular Post King Mark 3,631 Posted October 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2023 well we'll still get over an hour of unreleased music Yavar Moradi, Cameron1138, enderdrag64 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyncMan 314 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, Tom said: I know nothing about these sort of technical matters, but how much extra work is need to do the isolated score? It strikes me as an inexpensive feature that should be part of most releases. Is it a perceived lack of audience interest that prevents it? It is not just technical. I am thinking that one aspect in making this possible is that the musicians that performed the score for the film have to sign-off on this, as they are members of the musicians union--The American Federation of Musicians. I'm betting that in order to do that, they would want to be financially compensed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,369 Posted October 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2023 42 minutes ago, Tom said: I know nothing about these sort of technical matters, but how much extra work is need to do the isolated score? Literally none. Ramiro just provides Pro Tools output to the home media department and that's it. 42 minutes ago, Tom said: It strikes me as an inexpensive feature that should be part of most releases. I agree! 42 minutes ago, Tom said: Is it a perceived lack of audience interest that prevents it? I'm not sure if I've ever seen any interviews with any home media department heads of any major studios who discuss what types of bonus features they like or don't like to make happen 42 minutes ago, Tom said: Lucas is always talking about SW as silent movies carried by visuals and the score. Why not make this a feature in future releases of SW--at least give us that for the scores? Yes please! 29 minutes ago, SyncMan said: I am thinking that one aspect in making this possible is that the musicians that performed the score for the film have to sign-off on this, as they are members of the musicians union--The American Federation of Musicians. I'm betting that in order to do that, they would want to be financially compensed. Nope! The AFM does not need to approve this whatsoever. It's still music being used for its original intended purpose - syncing to the film. It's only new soundtrack albums that will be sold (IE: promo albums are fine) that require them to be paid again. Tom, Yavar Moradi, ThePenitentMan1 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Damien F 1,742 Posted October 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2023 When we found out that the FYC equals the OST, I thought we'd have to live with the OST presentation of the score for years and years. Can't believe we'll have music to supplement the OST so soon now. Brando, Cameron1138, Edmilson and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,369 Posted October 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2023 I know, it's crazy that we're 8 weeks away from another hour of new John Williams Indiana Jones music! Andy, JTN, JNHFan2000 and 12 others 5 1 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Manakin Skywalker 4,897 Posted October 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Jay said: Nope! The AFM does not need to approve this whatsoever. It's still music being used for its original intended purpose - syncing to the film. It's only new soundtrack albums that will be sold (IE: promo albums are fine) that require them to be paid again. That settles it... all films going forward must now include isolated score audio tracks! ThePenitentMan1, Cameron1138, Raiders of the SoundtrArk and 5 others 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittBash 282 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Jay said: The AFM does not need to approve this whatsoever. It's still music being used for its original intended purpose - syncing to the film. It's only new soundtrack albums that will be sold (IE: promo albums are fine) that require them to be paid again. I wondered how that worked thanks for clearing that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Drew 590 Posted October 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2023 For all of you complaining about the movie, honestly, I've always just been happy to get a new Indiana Jones film from 80-year old Harrison Ford and 90-year-old John Williams. It felt good to genuinely be excited for a movie after whatever Hollywood has been doing to us lately. And the one movie I looked forward to gets an isolated score track? !!!!! Cameron1138, Manakin Skywalker, Andy and 10 others 11 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 907 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 What are some highlights others more familiar with the score in the film than I are excited about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,369 Posted October 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2023 All the unreleased prologue music. Pulse of the City. Tuk Tuk Chase. All the unreleased Syracuse music. Cameron1138, iamleyeti, Haasch and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 1,864 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 7 hours ago, Cameron1138 said: but we do have the complete recording sessions which is even better. Sort of complete. There’s still a couple bits/inserts missing. JTN and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,030 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 8 hours ago, Cameron1138 said: There's not an isolated score version of it, but we do have the complete recording sessions which is even better. On CD, as an official release, remastered by Mike Matessino? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJH132 48 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Presumably the second this is released, audio software experts will be ripping, slicing and dicing the score into a more listenable format. Can someone here describe what would be the steps to take this 7.1 soundtrack and properly mix it to stereo. How do you know it's how it is supposed to sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 hour ago, TJH132 said: Presumably the second this is released, audio software experts will be ripping, slicing and dicing the score into a more listenable format. Can someone here describe what would be the steps to take this 7.1 soundtrack and properly mix it to stereo. How do you know it's how it is supposed to sound? This has some good instructions: https://forum.audacityteam.org/t/how-to-mix-7-mono-channels-to-stereo/53391/3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Damien F 1,742 Posted October 15, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2023 I've been listening to the OST quite regularly since its release. I love the score. I can't bloody wait for the isolated score. Christmas will come a few weeks early this December Edmilson, Taikomochi, Cameron1138 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,897 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 6 hours ago, crumbs said: This has some good instructions: https://forum.audacityteam.org/t/how-to-mix-7-mono-channels-to-stereo/53391/3 Apparently Handbrake when converting from surround sound to stereo does it properly automatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 245 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 17 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Apparently Handbrake when converting from surround sound to stereo does it properly automatically. Good to know as I use Handbrake too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr. Hooper 1,792 Posted October 15, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2023 I was baited by the title of this terribly written "article", which turned out to be about the isolated score track...sorta, at the end. I've read some piss-poor articles before, but this one gets a prize. https://insidethemagic.net/2023/10/harrison-ford-indiana-jones-bluray-release-cj1/ Manakin Skywalker, enderdrag64, A. A. Ron and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB Makes Stuff 240 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Who thought that was a good article to post? 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,287 Posted October 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2023 Whatever gets people to click and scroll through tons of ads buffered with paragraphs of preamble before finally getting to the point (or not) Mr. Hooper, Cameron1138, Manakin Skywalker and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 4,660 Posted October 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2023 On 13/10/2023 at 6:21 PM, King Mark said: well we'll still get over an hour of unreleased music You misread the topic. The Blu Ray option is for an isolated sound effects track. Manakin Skywalker, Brando and Edmilson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted October 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2023 As long as they’ve removed Harrison Ford and Karen Allen, I’m happy. Brando, Mr. Hooper and Andy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr. Hooper 1,792 Posted October 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2023 3 hours ago, A. A. Ron said: As long as they’ve removed Harrison Ford and Karen Allen, I’m happy. It's the "and more" part that killed me. 😆 Andy, Brando, A. A. Ron and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,030 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 8 hours ago, Tom said: You misread the topic. The Blu Ray option is for an isolated sound effects track. Scores these days can hardly be differentiated from sound effects anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThePenitentMan1 744 Posted October 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2023 5 hours ago, JTW said: Scores these days can hardly be differentiated from sound effects anyway. Not a JW score. JTN, Brando and Manakin Skywalker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,030 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 27 minutes ago, ThePenitentMan1 said: Not a JW score. Of course not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andy 4,138 Posted October 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2023 Jesus that’s a hot take. Have you guys seen the version of Superman where they removed Reeve, Kidder, Brando, Hackman.. and more? I have a release of ALIEN where they remove Sigourney Weaver, the Xenomorph, and more. They’re completely different in their subtractive ways. Mr. Hooper, Edmilson, enderdrag64 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 I can't tell whether you're joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hooper 1,792 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 19 minutes ago, Andy said: Jesus that’s a hot take. Have you guys seen the version of Superman where they removed Reeve, Kidder, Brando, Hackman.. and more? I have a release of ALIEN where they remove Sigourney Weaver, the Xenomorph, and more. They’re completely different in their subtractive ways. I'm cracking up here... 😂 It's pretty sad for Phoebe Waller-Bridge that she was relegated to the "and more" bin. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciarlese 251 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Andy said: Jesus that’s a hot take. Have you guys seen the version of Superman where they removed Reeve, Kidder, Brando, Hackman.. and more? I have it, produced by Mike Matessino. Great stuff! Andy and Brando 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 7,466 Posted October 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Andy said: have a release of ALIEN where they remove Sigourney Weaver, the Xenomorph, and more. They’re completely different in their subtractive ways As long as they don't remove the cat, I'm fine with it Andy, Mr. Hooper, Bespin and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brando 1,864 Posted October 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2023 Ironic you bring up Alien @Andy, since the Blu Ray release of all 4 movies have 2 isolated scores for each, the actual one and then the composers intended score. Wonder how that would work for some of JW's scores. JTN, enderdrag64, ThePenitentMan1 and 4 others 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,897 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Brando said: Wonder how that would work for some of JW's scores. Well for Star Wars they would have to drastically recut the footage and add back in everything that was cut. enderdrag64 and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hooper 1,792 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 4 hours ago, Edmilson said: As long as they don't remove the cat, I'm fine with it "Jonesy" agrees... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,353 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Well for Star Wars they would have to drastically recut the footage and add back in everything that was cut. Well, yes, but actually no. Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 9 hours ago, Andy said: I have a release of ALIEN where they remove Sigourney Weaver, the Xenomorph, and more. They’re completely different in their subtractive ways. That would be fascinating to watch, actually. Just rummaging through the Nostromo and taking in the scenery. I'd love that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,030 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 6 hours ago, Brando said: Wonder how that would work for some of JW's scores. Beautifully! Brando and ThePenitentMan1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,478 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Pre-order of German versions has started (at JPC) - no details on bonus material yet. Indiana Jones und das Rad des Schicksals (DVD) – jpc DVD Blu-ray 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray & Blu-ray 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray & Blu-ray Steelbook [Edit: currently unavailable] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB Makes Stuff 240 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 The unfunny version of the movie… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,478 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 23 minutes ago, LB Makes Stuff said: The unfunny version of the movie… ...with authentic bad-guy scenes. TolkienSS and LB Makes Stuff 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,478 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 On 17/10/2023 at 12:28 PM, BB-8 said: Pre-order of German versions has started (at JPC) - no details on bonus material yet. Indiana Jones und das Rad des Schicksals (DVD) – jpc DVD Blu-ray 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray & Blu-ray 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray & Blu-ray Steelbook [Edit: currently unavailable back in] There's now an indication that the German Blu-ray release will also contain the "Score-only" version. So I've pre-ordered (DME traumatized). Source: Indiana Jones und das Rad des Schicksals 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray + Blu-ray / Steelbook auf Ultra HD - Portofrei bei bücher.de (buecher.de) Note: DVD version doesn't seem to have that feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hooper 1,792 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 7 hours ago, BB-8 said: There's now an indication that the German Blu-ray release will also contain the "Score-only" version. Yes, confirmed by the words "und mehr" — which has become the common vernacular in all languages for referring to isolated scores, and was originally coined by the intrepid reporter Chloe James. BB-8 and Dr. Know 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 As if we needed more reassurance, Amazon UK: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Indiana-Jones-Destiny-Blu-ray-Region/dp/B0CKTLD5L7/ref=tmm_blu_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1698097133&sr=8-2 Mentioned on back cover and description. It's sort of tempting to make this a Christmas present.... well done Disney for making me even considering purchasing an Indy movie on physical media. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bespin 8,483 Posted October 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Richard Penna said: well done Disney for making me even considering purchasing an Indy movie on physical media. Brando, Edmilson, BB-8 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,478 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Why is he [Indy] hiding his eyes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JTN 2,030 Posted October 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2023 2 hours ago, BB-8 said: Why is he [Indy] hiding his eyes? He’s ashamed that the CD is not available. Chewy, LB Makes Stuff, Gabriel Bezerra and 5 others 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,478 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Dunno whether the tech-specs have already been confirmed...(DVD does not contain the isolated score) 4K & Blu-ray Source: Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023) (4K Ultra HD + Blu-ray) - CeDe.com Blu-ray Source: Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (2023) - CeDe.com Brando and Ludwig 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig 1,120 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 hours ago, BB-8 said: Dunno whether the tech-specs have already been confirmed...(DVD does not contain the isolated score) 4K & Blu-ray Blu-ray That's interesting... The blu-ray with the 4K package has Dolby Atmos whereas the lone blu-ray package has DTS 7.1. It's too bad that's not the case for Amazon US - the blu-ray with the 4K still has only DTS 7.1. Where did you manage to find these disc specs? BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,478 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 44 minutes ago, Ludwig said: That's interesting... The blu-ray with the 4K package has Dolby Atmos whereas the lone blu-ray package has DTS 7.1. It's too bad that's not the case for Amazon US - the blu-ray with the 4K still has only DTS 7.1. Where did you manage to find these disc specs? I've included the source above. Ludwig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 The Digital Bits article in the very first post of this thread already told us that the DVD won't have it, the Blu Ray will have it in 7.1 Dolby Digital, and the 4K disc will have it in 7.1.4 Dolby Atmos. I quoted from that Digital Bits article in the 9th post of this thread On 10/10/2023 at 11:02 AM, Jay said: I would have a preferred a lossless PCM 2.0 stereo track for this, but it's nice that it's 7.1 DD on the Blu Ray and 7.1.4 Atmos on the 4KBD U.S. Audio (for the score-only version of the movie): 4K Ultra HD – 7.1.4 Dolby Atmos, Blu-ray – 7.1 Dolby Digital, DVD – N/A BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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