Popular Post TownerFan 4,978 Posted March 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2018 Very interesting interview with Skywalker Sound mixer Ren Klyce about his job of mixing John Williams' score for The Last Jedi: http://postperspective.com/ren-klyce-mixing-score-star-wars-last-jedi/ A couple of neat tidbits I'll let you discover John, Incanus, Joni Wiljami and 6 others 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thor 6,338 Posted March 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2018 15 minutes ago, TownerFan said: Very interesting interview with Skywalker Sound mixer Ren Klyce about his job of mixing John Williams' score for The Last Jedi: http://postperspective.com/ren-klyce-mixing-score-star-wars-last-jedi/ A couple of neat tidbits I'll let you discover Ren Klyce? So that's where they got the villain's name from (with a bit of -- if you'll excuse the pun -- mixing)! Oswin Pond, Pieter Boelen and _deleted_ 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,616 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 26 minutes ago, Thor said: Ren Klyce? So that's where they got the villain's name from (with a bit of -- if you'll excuse the pun -- mixing)! I was thinking exactly the same thing when I saw that name! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 10,654 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Me too. Quote One of the fortunate things that occurred on this film was that Rian and producer Ram Bergman wanted to give John Williams as much time as possible so they started him really early. I think he had a year to compose, which was great. He could take his time and really work diligently through each sequence. What a great luxury for JW! Quote The moments where the choice was made to remove the score completely, was that a hard sell for the director? Or, was he game to let go of the score in those effects-driven moments? No, it wasn’t too difficult. There was one scene that we did revert on though. It was on Crait, and Rian wanted to get rid of the whole big music sequence when Leia sees that the First Order is approaching and they have to shut the giant door. There was originally a piece of music, and that was when the crystal foxes were introduced. So we got rid of the music there. Then we watched the film and Rian asked us to put that music back. This is a bit unclear to me. Was the music accompanying the First Order's approach removed? I can't recall how it was at the cinema. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,257 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Why are there so many people called Ren nowadays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 6,338 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 It's Latin for kidney. Make of that as you wish. That_Bloke, Pieter Boelen and Docteur Qui 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 10,654 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 I've heard the @mstrox thread is the place to go for such things. Btw, ren also means clean in Norwegian. That_Bloke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gurkensalat 322 Posted March 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2018 Great interview! I was surprised to learn that not only they made a new recording of Long Goodbye, but JW played himself! All the details in the interview IMO devaluates the „autopilot“ meme that was as usual thrown around. One can say to not like the soundtrack, to find it not different enough, but obviously he spent a lot of time and work into crafting the best possible soundtrack. As often, the genius lays in the detail and emerges only with time and repeated listening. Same with TinTin and BFG IMO. People said the same about Beethovens 8th and the Brahms symphonies. History has proven them wrong. Miguel Andrade, Cerebral Cortex, ocelot and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,257 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 55 minutes ago, Thor said: It's Latin for kidney. Make of that as you wish. In Dutch it means to run, or it's a word for a chicken coop. That_Bloke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,482 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 I guess he works better under pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 13,540 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 3 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: This is a bit unclear to me. Was the music accompanying the First Order's approach removed? I can't recall how it was at the cinema. That line confused me too! I vaguely recall that sequence being silent, notably the introductory shot of the Crystal Foxes running across the salt plains. But it could just as easily have had music, can't remember! Need to see the film again. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joni Wiljami 1,201 Posted March 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: Btw, ren also means clean in Norwegian. Incanus, Fabulin, _deleted_ and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 10,654 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 ...and in Swedish... and in Danish. But not in Finnish! 34 minutes ago, crumbs said: That line confused me too! Probably just a typical case of the journalist not bothering to figure out what the interviewee really meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alex 2,694 Posted March 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2018 If you listen closely you can hear J.J. Abrams sobbing Holko, crumbs, Pieter Boelen and 6 others 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 683 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 All of these people mentioned in the interview should be carried over to Ep. IX! crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,409 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 8 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: This is a bit unclear to me. Was the music accompanying the First Order's approach removed? I can't recall how it was at the cinema. He's saying that they reverted on removing the music...so the music is there. Maybe. I haven't seen the film. Jurassic Shark and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 10,654 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Exactly: "maybe". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTWfan77 1,558 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Remco said: All of these people mentioned in the interview should be carried over to Ep. IX! Just not Rian Johnson please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,031 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 You're right, he'd likely be too busy working on his own highly-anticipated trilogy. Oswin Pond and JTWfan77 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,355 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Or maybe working on the next few Disney will throw at him😝! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,041 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 I'll be seeing the movie tonight, so I'll be sure to pay attention to the crystal fox moment for music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,355 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 @Nick ParkerYou're watching it hey? How? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,041 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 I'll be going to a theater that does "second run" films. The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,759 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 5 hours ago, Alex said: If you listen closely you can hear J.J. Abrams sobbing Tenés Claro, que loco chabón, jamás lo hubiera esperado acá Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,324 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 10 hours ago, Stefancos said: Why are there so many people called Ren nowadays? Because parents are eediots! Bryant Burnette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 626 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 9 hours ago, crumbs said: That line confused me too! I vaguely recall that sequence being silent, notably the introductory shot of the Crystal Foxes running across the salt plains. But it could just as easily have had music, can't remember! Need to see the film again. I think there's music when Rose and Finn crash land into the hanger but it was very hard to hear since the sound effects were very noisy. I don't recall any music before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,481 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 TLJ's sound mixing >>> the prequel's & TFA's sound mixing crumbs and Cerebral Cortex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,375 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 I haven't read the interview yet, so I'm not sure what exactly you guys are talking about, but here's the scene that seems to be in question... https://drive.google.com/open?id=1xhYNlF99BeFeXTI4KKkWgU8x-_iwyGbP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,776 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Nice interview. I'm glad JW had a generous amount of time to work on the score. I just wish I liked the results more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,694 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 7 hours ago, Muad'Dib said: Tenés Claro, que loco chabón, jamás lo hubiera esperado acá Yo necesitaba un SIM y Claro fue la primera compañía que busqué 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,411 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 5 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said: TLJ's sound mixing >>> the prequel's & TFA's sound mixing yeah and I watched the original trilogy on blu ray recently (in surround sound) and the music seemed much quieter than it used to be. for example the music when yoda lifts the x-wing seemed like unnoticeable background music. Not sure how much they tampered with the sound mix since the theatrical release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 5,893 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: I haven't read the interview yet, so I'm not sure what exactly you guys are talking about, but here's the scene that seems to be in question... https://drive.google.com/open?id=1xhYNlF99BeFeXTI4KKkWgU8x-_iwyGbP So maybe for a little while they were continuing with the music out until Rose/Finn appeared or something, and then Johnson decided he wanted it back in for the attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 8,621 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, King Mark said: Not sure how much they tampered with the sound mix since the theatrical release It's the freaking Star Wars blurays, what do you think? Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,355 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Instead of buying right away I'm going to rent it from my local library. I'm 250th in line. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 13,540 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 8 hours ago, King Mark said: Not sure how much they tampered with the sound mix since the theatrical release I think Ben Burtt or Matthew Wood (both prequel sound designers) re-did the OT mixes from scratch for the 2004 DVD, hence their shitty treatment of Williams' scores. Just like the prequels. Loved the mixing on TLJ. Really hope we don't return to the shitty sound mix of TFA now that JJ's back in charge. ocelot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 10,654 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 "Shitty sound mix" is his middle name. MikeH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,411 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 yeah now the OT sounds like the Prequel mix .If I was young and it was my first time seeing the films i'm not sure I would have noticed the music and become a a Williams fan Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 8,621 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 It's dreadful to think the Oscar-winning editing, sound mix and VFX of STAR WARS, one of the most popular and influential pieces in the history of American cinema only exist in semi-gray area fan restorations, and locked away in Lucasfilm's vaults and hard drives. The last official release is the '93 laserdisc, but that really doesn't reach the standard quality, and was already tampered with to a smaller extent for the nth time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ocelot 493 Posted March 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2018 On 3/8/2018 at 4:08 AM, Gurkensalat said: Great interview! I was surprised to learn that not only they made a new recording of Long Goodbye, but JW played himself! All the details in the interview IMO devaluates the „autopilot“ meme that was as usual thrown around. One can say to not like the soundtrack, to find it not different enough, but obviously he spent a lot of time and work into crafting the best possible soundtrack. As often, the genius lays in the detail and emerges only with time and repeated listening. Same with TinTin and BFG IMO. People said the same about Beethovens 8th and the Brahms symphonies. History has proven them wrong. I've been saying for ages that TinTIn and The BFG are brilliant scores which shows Williams at his most inventive and with BFG almost impressionistic and light with his orchestrations. John, Gurkensalat, Pieter Boelen and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,324 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 The Last Jedi had a score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 10,654 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 20 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said: The Last Jedi had a score? Do you have ears? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,324 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Yes, and I use them to fly as long as I have the magic feather! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,257 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 6 hours ago, ocelot said: I've been saying for ages that TinTIn and The BFG are brilliant scores which shows Williams at his most inventive and with BFG almost impressionistic and light with his orchestrations. Hornist, is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,411 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 BFG is ok but he doesn't let any of the themes soar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,041 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 I don't think I've listened to The BFG outside of the time I watched the film in theaters (which I liked!). It seemed pleasant and warm, but I didn't feel like I was missing anything by ignoring the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,257 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Why would you ignore the album though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,041 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 I just didn't really feel compelled to seek out the music on its lonesome. There was never a moment in the movie where I thought, "Ah man, I need to check that out!" Perhaps this attitude is a contributing factor to the cracks in JWFan's seams... You've listened to it, I presume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,257 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 It's lovely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,041 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Well, if anyone would like to attempt to turn a poor sinner's heart, I'm open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto 4,243 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 It's the Spacecamp of 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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