THE LOST WORLD (1997) - 2023 2-CD expanded reissue from La-La Land Records now available!

[Trope 527]

On 13/9/2023 at 8:59 PM, Trope said:

I'm sure this has been discussed before, as it appears on the 2016 release as well, but what's with the strange hiss at 2:41 in Ludlow's Speech?

Does anyone have further information about this? Was it discussed in threads about the 2016 release?

[Schilkeman 964]

It sounds like a synthesizer on the 2016 release. I don't have the new one at my fingertips to check against, but it's part of the music.

[crumbs 14,318]

Yeah it's synth. You can hear similar ghostly sounds around 2:40 into Tranquilizer Dart.

[Faleel 5,359]

Yeah, it's the high end of a synth choir.

 

Compare to this:

 

 

[Trope 527]

Excellent! Thanks for clarifying. Now that I listen to it again, I hear that the notes change in time with the rising horn line.

[Schilkeman 964]

They also go left to right as the notes change

[Trope 527]

I went to check what it sounded like in the movie, but the track ends at around 2:00 in the actual film and the rest of the music is unused.

[Arpy 4,145]

When is this back in stock? I missed out due to financial woes 😰

[Pater Ecstaticus 5]

One to three pixels per tooth 

 

All joking aside, what a wonderful set, with great sound to boot.

[Amer 2,110]

14 hours ago, Arpy said:

When is this back in stock? I missed out due to financial woes 😰

I think MV said first week of October. Sometimes it comes back earlier.

[Jay 37,371]

He said the first week of September, not October, so it must be late

 

On 23/08/2023 at 2:53 PM, Jay said:

MV says

 

Just to give you all a heads up -- Lost World blew out the door quicker than anticipated. It's currently out of stock, but more copies are on the way. We hope to have it back in stock first week of September. In the meantime, if you ordered it from the La La Land website, your order has been shipped or is in the process of being shipped.

 

MV

 

https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=151816&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=1&r=473#bottom

 

[Smaug The Iron 516]

36 minutes ago, Jay said:

He said the first week of September, not October, so it must be late

 

 

No it was back in stock that week https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=152046&forumID=1&archive=0

[Jay 37,371]

Oh wow, so that means the second batch sold out already.  Wow, this is a big seller for them!

[crumbs 14,318]

There's a big JP fanbase out there.

 

Makes me wonder if LLL are fast-tracking JP3 and the Giacchino scores, considering 3/4 aren't subject to union fees and Universal's easy to deal with currently. Might as well strike while the iron's hot.

[Smaug The Iron 516]

14 minutes ago, crumbs said:

There's a big JP fanbase out there.

 

Makes me wonder if LLL are fast-tracking JP3 and the Giacchino scores, considering 3/4 aren't subject to union fees and Universal's easy to deal with currently. Might as well strike while the iron's hot.

One can only hope!

[Richard Penna 3,694]

I'm yet to be persuaded by the idea that LLL would be pursuing Gia's scores given how new they are. (don't read that as a lack of enthusiasm - I'd buy them!)

 

But yes, given the current hype around JP there would be no better time to get JP3 out and finish the book. Nice new cover series design to finish off...

 

MV did only mention a few 60s releases coming from Universal this year, but one can hope that he wasn't being too literal.

[Datameister 2,044]

10 hours ago, Smaug The Iron said:

One can only hope!

 

Indeed. I dunno if I'd go for any of the MG scores, but I really like what Don Davis did (mostly). I'd buy it for sure.

[Richard Penna 3,694]

Back in stock: https://lalalandrecords.com/the-lost-world-jurassic-park-remastered-expanded/

[Jay 37,371]

Nice

[Trope 527]

I've read online that there is an "infant motif" in this score. Could somebody help me to identify where it pops up? I listened to the OST album yesterday in preparation for the complete score, but I wasn't able to pick out this particular motif. Also, are there any recurring smaller/shorter musical ideas that I should be on the lookout for while listening to the full score that aren't the obvious primary themes (Lost World theme, Island voice theme, themes from JP1, etc.)?

[Jay 37,371]

Nope just the baby theme.

 

It's in Stegasaurus, Spilling Petrol and Horning In, and In The Trailer. 

 

I think you'll enjoy this:

 

https://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/20325-score-the-lost-world-jurassic-park-john-williams-a-complete-score-analysis/

[Luke Skywalker 1,795]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

Nope just the baby theme.

 

It's in Stegasaurus, Spilling Petrol and Horning In, and In The Trailer. 

 

I think you'll enjoy this:

 

https://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/20325-score-the-lost-world-jurassic-park-john-williams-a-complete-score-analysis/

And in visitor in san diego.

 

and i still think that in fire at camp, williams uses something similar for kellys reveal.

[Arpy 4,145]

On 20/09/2023 at 12:25 PM, Datameister said:

 

Indeed. I dunno if I'd go for any of the MG scores, but I really like what Don Davis did (mostly). I'd buy it for sure.

Just rewatched JP3 recently and thought Davis comes the closest to matching JW's style. The family theme in that score is one of my favourites. 

...

 

Ordered TLW before it goes out of stock again! I've listened to this score religiously since the 2016 expansion, so good for going on walks or doing anything physical with all the rhythmic percussion and action cues!?

[GerateWohl 4,371]

I found the jazz analogy that Mike Matessino pointed out in the podcast and Maurizio's West Side Story comparrison very interesting.

This is really a very unique work of motion picture score overall, in sound arrangement and performance.

 

[bollemanneke 3,349]

Out of stock AGAIN?! Jesus. How fast is this one gonna go?

[Bespin 8,484]

Okay, I understand. Next time it's in stock, I'll get it!

[Jay 37,371]

I'm so happy this is such a great seller! 

 

It's one of my favorite scores of all time, I love that everything possible from the 1" tape is now available sounding as best as possible. The new alternates add such an interesting insight into JW's recording process, especially with synth work. I love it! 

[Damien F 1,742]

It reminds me a little of Jaws 2. They are both incredible scores in their own right but they get overshadowed by the more famous and acclaimed scores for the original films.

[Tom 4,666]

Figured this thread is as good as any to post this.  This is a solid performance of the concert suite.

 

 

[Jay 37,371]

Someone made a blend of the normal and alternate versions of Rescuing Sarah and put it on youtube synced to the scene

 

 

No matter how many times I hear this cue, those tolling bells for when the two dinosaurs show up is amazing every time.  What a thing to cut for the OST album

[Luke Skywalker 1,795]

wow, i never noticed how noticeable is the shot transitioning from puppets to CGI at 3:56. The light is completely different.

[Datameister 2,044]

9 hours ago, Jay said:

Someone made a blend of the normal and alternate versions of Rescuing Sarah and put it on youtube synced to the scene

 

 

No matter how many times I hear this cue, those tolling bells for when the two dinosaurs show up is amazing every time.  What a thing to cut for the OST album

 

Seriously. There are plenty of OST edits where I'm like, Okay, yeah, I prefer to have all the music, but I have to admit it flows better without. This is not one of those times. The entire missing section is superb, and it just gets superb-er with that Gothic passage with the chimes. Spine-tingling.

[rough cut 1,714]

Okay, I have to join the chorus here as well and say that that was awesome.

[Jay 37,371]

I actually get why Williams took that section out, the tempo stays more consistent without it.  But yeah, the content of the missing section is so good, it should have overridden that!  Maybe he didn't like the brass performance at the start of the cut section?  Numerous people thought it sounded like something was wrong on the first expansion at that point.

 

 

But anyways, the point of the video the guy made wasn't for that missing section, but the way he blended the two tracks together.  Basically bringing the fuzz and groaning synth sounds into the otherwise better performed final version. I thought it came out pretty well!

[Trope 527]

43 minutes ago, Jay said:

I actually get why Williams took that section out, the tempo stays more consistent without it.  But yeah, the content of the missing section is so good, it should have overridden that!  Maybe he didn't like the brass performance at the start of the cut section?  Numerous people thought it sounded like something was wrong on the first expansion at that point.

Maybe he thought the synth tubular bells/chimes sounded too fake? 
 

I also love this cut section - I even think it's the highlight of the cue! 

[ciarlese 251]

I was thinking of placing a meaty order on SAE as I have a few titles to catch up, but this has disappeared from their website. I checked on LLL and it's showing as out of stock: any idea when this could be back?

[Richard Penna 3,694]

Me too - I'm ready to order this and Hook but ordering separately is a last resort due to shipping costs.

[Bespin 8,484]

Is it just an impression, or it seems that since the recent major issues with replacing defective CDs, specialized labels are printing very few CDs at a time. As a result, after the initial launch, the product quickly goes "out of stock." While it may be easier for them to manage, I wonder if it is for the customer as well. I'm also waiting for this release to come back in stock because I wanted to order it along with another, but in the meantime, the latter has also gone out of stock. It's becoming difficult to manage.

[Richard Penna 3,694]

For me it's 100% the shipping cost. If it cost $5 to ship a release I'd have ordered Hook the second it came back in stock. But it doesn't - for non US/Canada customers you're adding at least the cost of an entire second product just to ship the first one. Hence unless it's a personal grail, I'm waiting until I can bundle at least two together. I'm in a round of this game with LLL and Intrada right now.

 

I'd vastly prefer to pay $5 and purchase 3 or 4 tracks from this new edition of TLW but I'm not able to do that, so in this case my Hook purchase timing is entirely reliant on this coming back (or, if something else I wanted came out soon). It's not ideal for either party, really.

[Bespin 8,484]

The last solo CD I bought, Hook, I paid almost the same price in shipping fees as the CD itself. I won't do that again, but ordering CDs in bulk (outside the Black Friday/End of year window) is becoming increasingly difficult due to those annoying 'Out of stock' issues.

[Luke Skywalker 1,795]

And it seems that when something is restocked the other new cd from the same composer is out of stock. Or when they release a new score the previous one is out if stock….

[Richard Penna 3,694]

A few years ago that wasn't really a problem. We bundled releases because it was convenient and saved a few $$s as well, but now Americans will pay $7.45 to ship Hook, for example - we internationals will pay $23.

 

First world problem of course, but ultimately it dictates our buying patterns.

[Badzeee 110]

I recently moved from the USA to Europe and it means that where buying limited edition soundtrack CDs used to be a fairly cheap, fun hobby, it's suddenly become very expensive because of those shipping costs. 

 

Not to mention, sometimes they end up in customs, which can also add costs.  First world problems indeed, but what was once an innocent and fairly cheap appreciation of art has now become an expensive habit. 

[Marc 769]

4m3/5m1 a.k.a. "The Hunt" !!

 

 

[Alex 2,835]

Fucking hell, imagine being one of the session musicians blowing your lungs out trying to nail that piece and then you sit down and watch the film and you discover it’s been cut. 😅

[MinderCminor 0]

On 17/09/2023 at 10:55 AM, crumbs said:

One thing I immediately noticed is the loud stage noise in To The Island has been further reduced.

 

It was very loud on the OST, toned back in the 2016, and now basically inaudible in 2023.

 

OST:

 

2016 LLL:

 

I still feel like this removes lots of the Sony-esque character that these scores tend to have. Sounds like they just brought down the spot and tree levels.