Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Without solos theme it would be very weird…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,319 Posted August 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 27, 2021 Would be amazing if he approached it like Williams' Star Wars suites, and wrote a handful of movements! He could even open with JW's suite: Act I - The Adventures of Han Act II - Han & Q'Ira (Love Theme Suite) Act III - Mine Mission (Concert arrangement of film cue) Act IV - Chewy & Flying Suite Mirrors the structure of the end credits, except each major idea is extrapolated into a standalone arrangement. Molly Weasley, Jay, DrTenma and 6 others 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 That would be stellar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 Would be nice to have some sort of arrangement of the gang theme too. Or two opposite gangs even. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,147 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 https://www.instagram.com/p/CdOx-civgt-/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Lando’s Closet and Mine Mission Suite… has anyone heard these concert versions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 “Lando’s Closet”… horrible title. Andy and Edmilson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post artguy360 1,844 Posted May 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2022 I hope JP returns to score more SW at some point. I thought he did a more than admirable job with Solo. There is a lot of fun action and some really interesting passages of thematic stuff. Andy, Evanus, Bofur01 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 Ooh, Rat Race and Rio 2 suites. Two scores I would never have thought would be performed in concert. I do hope this means they were recorded for a Vol 2 suites album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,147 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 8 hours ago, rough cut said: “Lando’s Closet”… horrible title. It really is, isn't it? I suppose it follows "Lando's Palace", but wow that looks odd on a concert program. I hope both of these suites get a proper recording. Even more, I hope Powell sits down and revisits Chewbacca's theme and makes a concert piece out of it, maybe mingling it with Han's theme or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 43 minutes ago, Andy said: I hope Powell sits down and revisits Chewbacca's theme and makes a concert piece out of it Without the drum loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,147 Posted May 7, 2022 Share Posted May 7, 2022 Naturally. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,378 Posted August 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2022 I've been making way way through this score this week in pieces during commutes and man, I'm discovering so much more about it than I even realized was in here. I feel like for a long time I only really noticed the Han A and B themes, Enfys Nest theme, and old JW themes from the old movies for the most part Now I hear Chewie's theme, Secrets, L337's theme, the gang theme, Qi'Ra's theme, etc all over the score. Not a lot of time goes by without one of the themes popping up, and they are always different renditions every time. This score is a real gem. Boy, it's a shame Disney screwed up the marketing of the film and we aren't already on our way to finishing up a trilogy with this cast and composer by now DarthDementous, Trope, Raiders of the SoundtrArk and 16 others 13 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Evanus 217 Posted August 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2022 They'd be idiots not to let Powell do more Star Wars scores. Unfortunately I don't have much hope.. Trope, enderdrag64, Bofur01 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,383 Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 I really really would have loved to see Lord and Miller‘s Solo movie with Powel‘s score (at probably half the costs for the movie). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SilverTrumpet 638 Posted August 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Jay said: I've been making way way through this score this week in pieces during commutes and man, I'm discovering so much more about it than I even realized was in here. I feel like for a long time I only really noticed the Han A and B themes, Enfys Nest theme, and old JW themes from the old movies for the most part Now I hear Chewie's theme, Secrets, L337's theme, Qi'Ra's theme, etc all over the score. Not a lot of time goes by without one of the themes popping up, and they are always different renditions every time. This score is a real gem. Boy, it's a shame Disney screwed up the marketing of the film and we aren't already on our way to finishing up a trilogy with this cast and composer by now There was a period of months not long after the movie came out where I listened to the OST album in full more than once per week. It was the perfect length for the drive between myself and my now wife. I NEVER got tired of listening to it. It is so expertly crafted I still feel like I'm not done listening to it. Loert, crumbs, Trope and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WampaRat 1,105 Posted August 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2022 I consider this score one of the great miracles of modern film scores 1) We have 9(!) Williams Star Wars scores 2) We have 6(!) Howard Shore Middle Earth scores 3) The fact that John friggin’Powell got to compose a Star Wars score (and it ROCKS) 😊 Soon to be number 4) we will have a 5th Indiana Jones score composed by JW!) Yavar Moradi, Brando, Not Mr. Big and 4 others 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JNHFan2000 2,969 Posted August 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2022 2 hours ago, WampaRat said: I consider this score one of the great miracles of modern film scores 1) We have 9(!) Williams Star Wars scores 2) We have 6(!) Howard Shore Middle Earth scores 3) The fact that John friggin’Powell got to compose a Star Wars score (and it ROCKS) 😊 Soon to be number 4) we will have a 5th Indiana Jones score composed by JW!) I actually would add Powell's Dragon trilogy to that. I don't think before 2010 when the first film came out anyone would have thought that a trilogy of score THAT good would come out of an animated film. To me those scores are his crowning achievement. And if he ever tops that in any way, I would be mightily impressed enderdrag64, Yavar Moradi, Tallguy and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 969 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 11 hours ago, SilverTrumpet said: There was a period of months not long after the movie came out where I listened to the OST album in full more than once per week. It was the perfect length for the drive between myself and my now wife. I NEVER got tired of listening to it. It is so expertly crafted I still feel like I'm not done listening to it. Same here. In those first few weeks after it came out (with the film still fresh in my mind too) I simply found every second of it an utter joy. It's incredible how Powell integrates Williams' Solo theme into his cues, he really makes it his own. To the point where I'd otherwise believe it was Powell's all along. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom Guernsey 2,287 Posted August 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2022 50 minutes ago, LSH said: Same here. In those first few weeks after it came out (with the film still fresh in my mind too) I simply found every second of it an utter joy. It's incredible how Powell integrates Williams' Solo theme into his cues, he really makes it his own. To the point where I'd otherwise believe it was Powell's all along. That was exactly how I felt. In the concert/demo arrangement it clearly feels like a JW theme but Powell integrates it so well into his music and style that I’d have assume he’d written it without the credit. It’s a credit to his own ability that his themes are just as good and complement JW’s own theme… Edmilson, LSH, Loert and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SilverTrumpet 638 Posted August 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2022 1 hour ago, LSH said: Same here. In those first few weeks after it came out (with the film still fresh in my mind too) I simply found every second of it an utter joy. It's incredible how Powell integrates Williams' Solo theme into his cues, he really makes it his own. To the point where I'd otherwise believe it was Powell's all along. I felt like the music, as well as the film, was the perfect evolution of Star Wars. It felt modern but still had a ton of Star Wars spirit in it. Way more than any of the other Disney productions. Both sadly got cut off at the knees, so the shows, movies, and music went in a way different direction instead. scallenger, Yavar Moradi, Loert and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 I agree that Powell takes JW's theme and manipulates it so much it sounds like it could have been his own theme, and also it fits right in with all of his other themes perfectly In terms of liking the score right away, I still think the OST program did a disservice to the score, but the Deluxe Edition program is perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WampaRat 1,105 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 7 hours ago, JNHFan2000 said: I actually would add Powell's Dragon trilogy to that. I don't think before 2010 when the first film came out anyone would have thought that a trilogy of score THAT good would come out of an animated film. To me those scores are his crowning achievement. And if he ever tops that in any way, I would be mightily impressed Ya know what? I agree 100%! scallenger and JNHFan2000 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverTrumpet 638 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Jay said: I agree that Powell takes JW's theme and manipulates it so much it sounds like it could have been his own theme, and also it fits right in with all of his other themes perfectly In terms of liking the score right away, I still think the OST program did a disservice to the score, but the Deluxe Edition program is perfect I always thought it was a great program, the only momentum killer was "The Good Guy". Like most Star Wars scores 2018 and earlier, the full score is always better. I know others might disagree, but I almost always listen to the most expanded Star Wars Williams, Powell, even Giacchino scores possible. It's ironic how in an era of much more flexibility in music releases, what with digital, there are fewer and fewer scores that justify a full release as opposed to a curated hour long OST presentation. WampaRat and Holko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 The problem with the OST album was it contained almost all the action music there is, leaving little room for the emotional, scene-setting, and plot-advancing music, leaving things imbalanced. The complete score is perfectly balanced! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverTrumpet 638 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 That's a fair point. It was great music for highway driving, but I did want a little more of the love theme. I figure that is what The Good Guy was there for. It was where it was to break up two tracks of the mine action music and two tracks of Kessel Run over the top music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WampaRat 1,105 Posted August 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2022 This section in “Corellia Chase” (1:34-1:55) is probably still my favorite moment in the score (in a score chalk full of favorite moments) The string counterpoint dancing all around the Solo theme is just pure adventurous bliss! (PS- I believe Batu Sener helped with this cue!) Also how he uses the opening blast of the main Star Wars fanfare in “Break Out” (the trumpets there from 1:19-1:30) underneath the Solo theme just gives me chills like no other. I’m surprised Williams never attempted that in any of his saga scores. SO glad this exists in the world 😊 Trope, Tom Guernsey, Yavar Moradi and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Wow those dancing strings are fun! I never noticed them before! WampaRat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 969 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, WampaRat said: This section in “Corellia Chase” (1:34-1:55) is probably still my favorite moment in the score (in a score chalk full of favorite moments) The string counterpoint dancing all around the Solo theme is just pure adventurous bliss! (PS- I believe Batu Sener helped with this cue!) That cue has some of the most fun brass writing I've ever heard. The whole score does, in fact. WampaRat and Edmilson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GerateWohl 4,383 Posted August 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2022 I said it before. But stand alone the music works better for me than in the movie. In the movie for me it was partly over the top, just too much action and drama that wasn’t justified by the action on the screen. Less would have sometimes been more. And every time I hear the score I wish away Powel‘s percussion. And on the OST side by side with Williams‘ fine arrangement it comes quite obvious how rough Powel’s orchestrations are compared to Williams. And, last point of criticism, I never liked the usage of the Star Wars theme in „The Falcon“, because it made no sense as the plot takes place before episode 4 and before the falcon takes any part in the main saga. And I don‘t like scores which don’t follow the narrative but take the viewers perspective and experience as reference. But still this is the best Star Wars score after Williams‘ and surely top 5 Powel. If not top 3. MaxTheHouseelf, Andy and michael_grig 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,604 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 1 hour ago, WampaRat said: This section in “Corellia Chase” (1:34-1:55) is probably still my favorite moment in the score (in a score chalk full of favorite moments) The string counterpoint dancing all around the Solo theme is just pure adventurous bliss! (PS- I believe Batu Sener helped with this cue!) That's my favorite moment in the entire score too! I wish there were more of it! Yavar WampaRat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WampaRat 1,105 Posted August 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2022 I will say, (and this is more of a fault of the story than the score) that after the amazing rush and finale of the massive Kessel run cues, the remaining score kinda just does it’s thing. There isn’t another massive concluding set piece I’m waiting for that signals “HEREs the end to a Star Wars movie”. Again, I blame the story. The Dryden showdown is sorta undercooked. A tighter resolution to the betrayal/reveal etc. might have also helped the music narratively speaking also. Not sure if I’m making sense or if someone can articulate it better (Don’t get me wrong it’s still a 5 star score all around.) But it was so go for broke in that set piece that I typically just want to go straight to the heartbreaking Kyra betrayal cues and then off to Dice and Roll to wrap things up. Holko, Yavar Moradi and Taikomochi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 I definitely understand that WampaRat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,604 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 I agree, the score kinda drops off a bit after that sequence (and honestly it's not my favorite music sequence because it's just remixing Williams for the most part). Might be a 4.5/5 score for me due to that, but it's still amazing. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,298 Posted August 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2022 5 hours ago, WampaRat said: This section in “Corellia Chase” (1:34-1:55) is probably still my favorite moment in the score (in a score chalk full of favorite moments) The string counterpoint dancing all around the Solo theme is just pure adventurous bliss! (PS- I believe Batu Sener helped with this cue!) I think this was posted here at the time but Powell shared a bunch of clips from the recording sessions on his Instagram and rehearsing this bit with the strings/woodwinds was one of them, really cool View this post on Instagram A post shared by John Powell (@johnj_powell) WampaRat, enderdrag64, Tom Guernsey and 5 others 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom Guernsey 2,287 Posted August 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2022 I love that this score still gets so much love! Such a shame the film turned out to be a bust financially so there’s unlikely to be a sequel… We can still hope that John Powell gets the gig for any future trilogy of films. Even if the films turn out to be duds, at least we’ll get some great music out of them Bofur01, Edmilson and enderdrag64 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,402 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 I loved the Voss showdown and the last scene with Beckett. (I'm sure part of that is that I like the actors.) The music at the least always did its job. And usually more. WampaRat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,383 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 The biggest flaw of the score is for me, that it doesn’t have a proper end titles suite. I wished Powel would once create a concert suite from the score. But I think, the only piece that got performed in concerts apart from Williams‘ Adventures of Han is Powel’s Mine Mission. WampaRat and Edmilson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMotif 1,038 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 26 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: I think this was posted here at the time but Powell shared a bunch of clips from the recording sessions on his Instagram and rehearsing this bit with the strings/woodwinds was one of them, really cool Imagine not hiring this guy for another SW job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Wouldn’t you rather him score more interesting movies? WampaRat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMotif 1,038 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Kasey Kockroach said: Wouldn’t you rather him score more interesting movies? He hasn’t really done that since Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SilverTrumpet 638 Posted August 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2022 You didn't like Harrison Ford and his cartoon dog? Smeltington, WampaRat, Trope and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 I don't see the connection between how good or bad or interesting a film is and how great of a score we'll get from Powell I haven't even seen most of the movies he's scored and I like a lot of his scores Yavar Moradi and Edmilson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WampaRat 1,105 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 The real question is: Which ending of the Train sequence do you prefer? The last 18 seconds or so are different on each.(Marauders Arrive 4:55- End) (Deluxe Train Heist (9:53-End) Gotta say I prefer the OST ending😊The film version just kinda just ends (probably to make way for the sound of the exploding mountain) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Yea probably the OST ending, but not to a major degree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 OST ending. Plus I'm not a fan of how the "Deluxe" cues are needessly joined together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,897 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Deluxe ending, just my personal preference. It was one of the many unreleased bits I was hoping for the most. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Loert 2,515 Posted August 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 6, 2022 10 hours ago, WampaRat said: This section in “Corellia Chase” (1:34-1:55) is probably still my favorite moment in the score (in a score chalk full of favorite moments) The string counterpoint dancing all around the Solo theme is just pure adventurous bliss! (PS- I believe Batu Sener helped with this cue!) Also how he uses the opening blast of the main Star Wars fanfare in “Break Out” (the trumpets there from 1:19-1:30) underneath the Solo theme just gives me chills like no other. I’m surprised Williams never attempted that in any of his saga scores. SO glad this exists in the world 😊 I remember how hyped I was in the weeks leading up to this score coming out (John Williams and John Powell are my two favourite film composers). But I was also anxious, as I was afraid the score wouldn't live up to my stratospheric expectations. I was also right in the middle of final exams at university so was stressed out overall. Well, I distinctly remember getting to this moment and having an almost euphoric moment where I just sat back, let out a deep breath and thought, "This is everything I was hoping for". Molly Weasley, WampaRat, Bofur01 and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blondheim 1,157 Posted August 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 6, 2022 I did not have the experience with this score that so many others had. I actually found it difficult to latch onto and like the new themes. Reminiscence Therapy in particular was hyped as being great great great but I was a little disappointed with how cut and paste it was at first. I have grown to like the arrangement, the mixing of the Deluxe Edition helped a lot in that. But the album felt like it had no finale, as others have mentioned and that made it difficult to grasp as a musical narrative because it felt like it ended arbitrarily, practically a musical ellipsis. Again, the Deluxe Edition really helped because now we have the Duel of the Fates reference to look forward to, and those are rare and cherished. Oddly enough now that I have listened to the Deluxe Edition, many of the things that once bothered me about the original album no longer bother me and I spin it a lot more often than I ever did before. Shrug. Anyway, people talk about this score like Powell was the second coming of Christ for Star Wars and while I have come much more around to the positive side of things… I still don’t feel that way. It was good but I’ve heard better from Powell himself. I consider myself a fan of his. I loved him back in the mid 2000s, owned the Shrek album, watched him rise to bigger and better projects, culminating in Horton and How to Train Your Dragon, both 5-star masterpieces imo. I would rate Solo under all three Dragon scores and Horton. I am not trying to cast a negative vote here, just maybe trying to balance effusive praise. I can’t be the only one who felt some of these things when it came out, although it certainly felt that way then and can still now sometimes. WampaRat, MaxTheHouseelf and Andy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 969 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 I'd love Powell and OmniPublishing to release the printed score, like they did with HTTYD. I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Loert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,147 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 I like it. I would love to love it as much as those praising it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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