Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 It is so beautiful!! I so much hope John will do this also in Chicago in April ocelot and igger6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 I'm starting to really love how the theme changes at 1.25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Almost missed this completely but thankfully Stefan shared the link over messenger. It's absolutely spectacular. And not before time! Oh my god it would make my day to hear this pop up in the upcoming Solo movie. 7 hours ago, Erik Woods said: An unfocused mess. Why do this when there is a superior concert arrangement out there? And he got rid of the Leia's Theme cameo. Utterly disappointing. I disagree about the original concert arrangement, because I've always thought it was rubbish to be honest. This update suggests that Williams has long been unhappy with it, too. Job's a good'un - this blows the original away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Quintus said: it would make my day to hear this pop up in the upcoming Solo movie. How is that going to come about? I mean, maybe a hint. But I really can't imagine more than that, especially since Williams will be writing a theme for the character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Don't worry, I typed it out knowing full well it won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, Quintus said: Almost missed this completely but thankfully Stefan shared the link over Grindr messenger. Cheers! mstrox and Ricard 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 I'm sure there were at least 2 or 3 alternates of the quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 I found the YouTube link in amidst his latest salvo of dick pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Takis 206 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Interesting incorporation of the ESB finale version of the theme from 3:23-4:23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 The way the final crescendo is delivered in this video performance... I can hear in my mind Williams' own intended "oomph" from the orchestra there, with him rehearsing with them prior. It's a far more satisfyingly cathartic and "Star Warsy" moment, than what they managed to pull off here, admirable enough though it was. I hope we get to hear the Maestro's own recording soon. It's funny, I've been off this theme for many years. In fact I was sick of it. I thought that, along with Yoda's theme, it was the most dated aspect of these old scores. But this new arrangement has breathed fresh life into the theme for me, it sounds almost contemporary. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 The ending reminds me of the structure of his revised War Horse and Face of Pan suites. Simply beautiful... love this recent trend of throwing the finale to the woodwinds/flutes, it's very restrained and regal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Which revised War Horse suite if you please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Not available in my country, but thanks for trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 This: Note the structural similarities with this new Han Solo suite. Similar thing here, his revised Face of Pan concert suite: Just sublime. Music that skips the ears and goes straight to the soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 The Dartmoor piece, it's the one he's always gone with for live performances, and it features two of the score's central themes mid way through the piece, but I've always felt he pays short shrift to those absolutely lush themes in the concert environment. It's a bugbear I've always had with the score, that those two utterly vintage Williams melodies weren't ever brought together in a properly fleshed out concert arrangement. Probably my most frustrating JW "missed opportunity" ever. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 The new arrangement is quite excellent. Not quite as to the point as the original but I love all the new variations and the whole re-exploration of the possibilities of the theme. I wonder what prompted the revision. Was JW dissatisfied with the original or was he just in the Star Wars head space after TLJ and decided that a revision was in order. A bit like with Marion's theme after KotCS (that was at Spielberg's behest though). crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 This is a really interesting arrangement, and substantively new. I never really got the hype for the new Marion's theme arrangement a few years back, but this is definitely a fresh take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 25 minutes ago, Incanus said: The new arrangement is quite excellent. Not quite as to the point as the original but I love all the new variations and the whole re-exploration of the possibilities of the theme. I wonder what prompted the revision. Was JW dissatisfied with the original or was he just in the Star Wars head space after TLJ and decided that a revision was in order. A bit like with Marion's theme after KotCS (that was at Spielberg's behest though). Considering Williams never performed the theme himself I would assume he wasn't satisfied with the arrangement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 For me, it's like if Aznavour, at 93 yo have decided to rework La bohème, and add a new musical bridge in the middle of it. That's a no-no PS: Sorry, I forgot to mention that "Han Solo and the Princess" is perhaps my favorite Star Wars Theme... since 38 years. Joni Wiljami and Erik Woods 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 5 hours ago, king mark said: I'm starting to really love how the theme changes at 1.25 Stockholm syndrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Wow, this is an unexpected treat. I love the new variations, feels very Golden Age to me. Fantastic! Let's hope we won't have to wait long for a studio recording. I fully expect Williams to perform this is Chicago, Boston, Tanglewood this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KK 3,307 Posted February 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2018 Absolutely sublime. This is the maestro at his most honest, with his heart laid bare. His voice oozes in every cadence, and I love how he treats a theme that has outgrown his hands in legacy, so personally, without having to serve the needs of "Star Wars" and all the demands/criteria/audience-expectations that come with it. Lovely variations all throughout, with the climax still highlighting the melody in its favoured form. It's a shame TLJ's OT thematic treatment didn't feature anything as inspired as this. Chen G., Not Mr. Big and BuzzLightyear 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, Damien F said: I fully expect Williams to perform this is Chicago, Boston, Tanglewood this year. Absolutely, yea. I look forward to hearing it in Boston and Tanglewood! rpvee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 214 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 And Philly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 I won't hear it in Philly, because I won't be there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 That reminds me . Isn't there a legendary "Harry's Wondrous World POA version" that he only performed once in concert and we never heard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 He played it at the Hollywood Bowl in 2004: https://www.jwfan.com/?p=2272 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 I still wonder about the motivation for this. Was this commissioned for the new film? Seems a bit strange that he would just out of the blue write this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 My guess is that it's similar to the revised Marian's Theme around the time of KOTCS - Williams had been revisiting the old theme for a sequel (TFA and TLJ) and was inspired to rejigger it into a new arrangement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Sometimes old irritations come into the foreground again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted February 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2018 I think he made this for King Mark. Omen II, Will and Ricard 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Nice concert piece! It feels both new and familiar at the same time, quite a feat. Love the original concert piece though. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 22 minutes ago, hornist said: I think he made this for King Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 This sounds more refined and vintage 80s Williams than the overrated concert arrangement of Marion's Theme, which didn't really do it for me. Ricard and Quintus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Damien F 1,742 Posted February 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2018 Reading Youtube comments on score videos is usually like gazing into the depths of human stupidity but I'm liking all the 'wow's in the comments. 1 hour ago, TheUlyssesian said: I still wonder about the motivation for this. Perhaps approaching his 86th birthday, JW just wanted to remind everyone how f*cking awesome he is! Jurassic Shark, Smeltington, crumbs and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 He's like a good wine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Damien F 1,742 Posted February 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2018 Cerebral Cortex, Holko, Jurassic Shark and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 It had me within seconds but then I've been a sucker to this theme since hearing it on my Dad's old cassette. But then 3.21 happened and from then on swept away by it. If he can do this with an old theme, I have some hope for Episode IX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 8,016 Posted February 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2018 Finally! Our first SW love theme! Karol Ricard, Jurassic Shark, mstrox and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 We've completed the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 16 hours ago, TownerFan said: It's called Variations on a Theme, boys. He took something he wrote almost many years ago and gave it a new spin. I guess you mean variations in the wider meaning, but since in music it's a specific kind of musical composing, I'd say this is not variations, but a "development" of the theme. Unless someone could argue that it's "developing variations". I am not sure, i listened to it twice. Overall, a very fine arrangement, better than the whole album of the Last Jedi. @Bespin What new ending with crescendo? You mean the music leading to 5.00''? 51 minutes ago, crocodile said: Finally! Our first SW love theme! Karol Why do you not consider Across the Stars a love theme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, filmmusic said: @Bespin What new ending with crescendo? You mean the music leading to 5.00''? Don't know, the ending, where it's usually end or lead to the Star Wars main theme. I watched the video only once, I'll never watch it again. I'll try to forget this version and pretend it doesn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bespin said: I'll try to forget this version and pretend it doesn't exist. I see. The same thing I've done with the last 2 Star Wars soundtracks! (sans 2-3 concert versions) Breadstick Basilisk and Bofur01 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Wow I love the golden age romantic sound of this. Damien F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 This is lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalfreakNYC 59 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Found this post talking about how it was taken off the market for revision...in 2017, I guess? " Years before Across the Stars (Love Theme linked with Anakin and Padmè), this was the real Love Theme of the original Star Wars Trilogy. The theme appears briefly in Empire Strikes Back but the concert arrangement Williams did for the Symphonic Suite of Episode V is one of the most erotic works of the entire Saga. Now, unfortunately, this version is no more available: we performed right before it was taken off the market "for revision"... We hope that it will available again soon! For now enjoy it!" IMHO, the new version can't hold a candle to this one. It's just beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 My heart was pounding the whole time. It was the most erotic theme of the saga. Up until then, at least. rpvee and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p0llux 398 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 New version was lovely, but older version has a place closer to my heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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