Pando 141 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 On 12/10/2019 at 12:11 PM, Jay said: 06 To Kimiji (1:37) 07 Fleeing from Kimiji (1:53) Funny, it's actually Kijimi, not Kimiji. Someone makes a typo and now it's impossible to get rid of it from teh internets. KIJIMI https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Kijimi Will and Ricard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_deleted_ 203 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 John Williams talks about J.J. Abrams and Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker already posted Dr. Rick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 I noticed he uses strings a lot in this score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 I like strings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Arpy 4,145 Posted December 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 14, 2019 Anyone else utterly adore that magical moment in 'Healing Wounds' (00:31-00:42)? I don't know how to describe it, like a ray of light or something watery, glistening. Flutes, strings, harp etc. Such a warm fuzzy sound. Chen G., crumbs, Chewy and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,514 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Arpy said: Anyone else utterly adore that magical moment in 'Healing Wounds' (00:31-00:42)? I don't know how to describe it, like a ray of light or something watery, glistening. Flutes, strings, harp etc. Such a warm fuzzy sound. One of my favourite bits from the FYC! I was listening to the TESB score yesterday and the ending of "The Rebels Escape Again" reminded me a little of the bit that you're referring to: Arpy and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Yes! It also sounds like some modulation of Rey's Theme, or it shares some DNA, at least I think it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,419 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 The chorale @ 1:00 in 'Parents' (track 18) is giving me strong The Battle Of Endor II Medley vibes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaug The Iron 515 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 On 12/10/2019 at 9:11 PM, Jay said: 07 Fleeing from Kimiji (1:53) 0:00 NEW THEME #3 (Action ostinato we heard in a TV commercial) 0:23 Kylo Ren's Theme 0:34 Kylo Ren's Theme 1:17 NEW THEME #2 (new character theme?) Could New Theme #2 be a theme for the trio? Sense it appears when the trio is together in the new clip. Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Looks like the FYC is legit. This new film clip has music from it. https://www.instagram.com/p/B6EKE6bA5Q9/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Did you think the FYC wasn’t legit? Will and Fabulin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Oh did you really suspect it was not authentic? Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Smaug the iron said: Could New Theme #2 be a theme for the trio? Sense it appears when the trio is together in the new clip. Could it be a theme for Finn finally? I think we all thought that action theme from TFA was Finn's theme because Boyega promised us that he has a theme. But turned out it wasn't his theme since it was nowhere to be found in TLJ. So Williams relented and wrote him a new theme and did not want to wait till he got a shitty Finn movie decades later to write him a theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,465 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 I wonder why Finn didn't got his own personal theme. Rey, Poe, Kylo, Rose, Snoke and even Holdo got theirs, but not him. On the other hand... Ron Weasley didn't receive a theme either. Neither did Han (on the original trilogy), only a love theme for him and Leia. So, maybe Williams is not a fan of sidekicks/funny friend of the main hero? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_vader 534 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Sorry if anyone has already pointed this out but... Approaching the Throne... 1:35 - 2:06 is very similar to... 0.00 - 0.52 Arpy and Smaug The Iron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Smaug the iron said: Could New Theme #2 be a theme for the trio? Sense it appears when the trio is together in the new clip. I really do think so. It seems to be a variation on the theme we hear most overtly in “We Go Together” which would make that an apt track title, and there are some other emotional variants in the recording session clips it seems. I think it’s for the three of them and the group adventure. If so hope we get some rad action moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 55 minutes ago, aj_vader said: Sorry if anyone has already pointed this out but... Approaching the Throne... 1:35 - 2:06 is very similar to... 0.00 - 0.52 Yes, one of the first things I picked out! aj_vader 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorRagnarok 1 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 On 12/10/2019 at 9:25 PM, woj said: Does anyone think Jannah and Zorii will get leitmotifs of their own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Well there is one annoyance. I like Theme from Galaxy's Edge A LOT better than any cues I've heard in this score so far. I was hoping for some more of that in TROS Remco and Fabulin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Maybe you should go to Disneyland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oskar 77 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 On 12/11/2019 at 10:20 PM, Jay said: 09 Hard to Get Rid Of (2:19) 1:29 The Emperor's Theme You can also hear a brief snippet of The Imperial March at around 1:54. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi 404 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 6 hours ago, DoctorRagnarok said: Does anyone think Jannah and Zorii will get leitmotifs of their own? For Zorii, "Fleeing from Kimiji" at 0'26 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lao Che 86 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 The new theme, maybe considered to be the Trio's/friends theme which is heard at the beginning of "rescue" or in full at the end of "Farewell"(3:35) (which I find beautiful btw), sounds more like a theme Williams would use in a jurassic park movie and not so much in a star wars episode.. Anyone? Bofur01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,660 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, Lao Che said: The new theme(maybe the Trio's/friends theme heard in full at the end of "Farewell"(3:35), which I find beautiful btw) , sounds more like a new theme Williams would use in a jurassic park movie and not so much in a star wars episode.. Have you heard the two themes he used to close out the original saga? I think the new one is more SWy than either of those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lao Che 86 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 32 minutes ago, Tom said: Have you heard the two themes he used to close out the original saga? I think the new one is more SWy than either of those two. Yes and I agree with you in part, I think Williams uses more motifs or snippets of new themes to create the necessary feeling for the ending of the original saga, rather than actual soaring themes, which would be more in line with his classical influences at that time. Now, the new theme might sound more melodic and therefore more starwarsy, but in terms of harmony, phrase and construction (and kitsch.. :)) more like his work in jurassic park - IMHO, of course.. 😆 - but, who knows, maybe TROS needs that kitsch and it will fit like luke skywalkers glove...😏guess we will find out soon enough! 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,660 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 I am thinking of Yub Nub in particular, followed by the SE flute theme. They just don't scream SW to me-well, especially at the time. I think the new theme, at least the track in question, is has a stronger "goodbye" quality to it, if that makes sense. I also think it fitting that the "meta" meaning of it is Williams saying goodbye to the franchise. It also has a strong fairy tale quality to it, which is also quite fitting for the close of a Once upon a Time saga. artguy360 and Fabulin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lao Che 86 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 That's my opinion exactly, the fairy tale sense that one gets with the new theme at the ending is the right comparison indeed. Maybe it will also fit the "new" SW world and feeling created for the last trilogy - It is, after all, a work of fantasy and Scifi that comes to an end - or at least momentarily (disneywise), but definitely, like you said, for Williams. I have to say that this kind of grand themes with a general sense of "goodbye" and the melancholy that comes with it, have been present for a while now in Williams scores and concert work.. but maybe that's just me.. Will and Smeltington 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,660 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Yes, there has been a bittersweet element to many of his compositions since around the time of Lincoln. Smeltington and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorRagnarok 1 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Lao Che said: The new theme, maybe considered to be the Trio's/friends theme which is heard at the beginning of "rescue" or in full at the end of "Farewell"(3:35) (which I find beautiful btw), sounds more like a theme Williams would use in a jurassic park movie and not so much in a star wars episode.. Anyone? They sound like different themes to me. 5 hours ago, Obi said: For Zorii, "Fleeing from Kimiji" at 0'26 ? Fingers crossed. Hopefully Jannah gets something too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lao Che 86 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 On 12/14/2019 at 10:53 AM, Luke Skywalker said: I like strings me too.. A,E and D.. but mainly G.. 😏 _deleted_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Sorry Bespin, I accidentally edited/deleted your post instead of posting my reply (I'm serious). Can you post it again? EDIT: You were asking me and Jay how many new members/"trolls" have joined the forums these days and that they should pay attention to your discography, or something like that. filmmusic and mrbellamy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lao Che 86 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 5 hours ago, DoctorRagnarok said: They sound like different themes to me. It's the same theme in both tracks, but just a bit shorter at the beginning of "rescue" and with a different orchestration than in "Farewell" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 The “Rescue” and “Farewell” themes are the same, but not what people are considering the trio theme (for now). That’s a different melody, at the start and end of “We Go Together”. DoctorRagnarok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanskie 104 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Does anyone hear what sound like faint male vocals coming from the right channel in "In the Desert" at about 1:43? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JacksonElmore 69 Posted December 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, dylanskie said: Does anyone hear what sound like faint male vocals coming from the right channel in "In the Desert" at about 1:43? That’s just Williams humming along but due to how big those headphones he wears are he can’t hear how loud he is crumbs, Ricard, rpvee and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 2 hours ago, dylanskie said: Does anyone hear what sound like faint male vocals coming from the right channel in "In the Desert" at about 1:43? Maybe that's why something weird came up when I Shazamed it? 5 hours ago, Jay said: Shazam just told me a portion of "In The Desert" is actually "Alleys (Version Francaise)" by Domeno Feat. Kain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanskie 104 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 49 minutes ago, Jay said: Maybe that's why something weird came up when I Shazamed it? Yeah, possibly... they could've uploaded a different take from the OST and Shazam didn't like that. Those vocals certainly don't sound like they belong in there, though, unless they were badly dialed out for the FYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorRagnarok 1 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 6 hours ago, mrbellamy said: The “Rescue” and “Farewell” themes are the same, but not what people are considering the trio theme (for now). That’s a different melody, at the start and end of “We Go Together”. There we go. It's also in both "Kijimi" tracks. The "Farewell" theme is something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 The trio theme is really growing on me. At first I couldn't recall it for the life of me, but I have a feeling both themes (trio and farewell) will get a great workout on the OST. Though, both themes and moments in the underscore remind me of both BFG and War Horse like Prologue, Fleeing from Kijimi, Rescue and Farewell. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Yeah the new heroic theme in Rescue/Farewell/Approaching the Throne is 100% the same theme The other one in We Go Together and other tracks is different But they could be the A and B theme in the same concert arrangement Tydirium and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,287 Posted December 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Arpy said: The trio theme is really growing on me. At first I couldn't recall it for the life of me, but I have a feeling both themes (trio and farewell) will get a great workout on the OST. Though, both themes and moments in the underscore remind me of both BFG and War Horse like Prologue, Fleeing from Kijimi, Rescue and Farewell. It’s funny the things that’ll stick out to us and don’t. I just wanted to listen to that first minute of “We Go Together” over and over, it took me awhile to move on to the rest of the FYC! I love that War Horse-y string writing, I’ve been sorta hoping for something like it in this movie...so much of the softer melodic underscore moments with Rey’s Theme or Rose’s Theme have been based around solo instruments, there’s very little like this where he just lets the strings get all syrupy. I can’t really think of anything like it in this trilogy, “Finn’s Confession” or “Torn Apart” aren’t really thematic and don’t have the same range while “The Starkiller” is more of a dirge. I thought there’d be some opportunities on Ahch-To but nothing really...? This just hits such a sweet spot for me, makes it feel like the beginning of the end. If it’s for a heart to heart between the trio, it should go a long fuckin way toward endearing me to their group dynamic. I hope there’s more Arpy, _deleted_, Cerebral Cortex and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 All this talk of missing tracks from the OST is making me feel worse about as yet unreleased music that's featured in neither FYC or OST! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MaestroUE 29 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Is it just me or the cool French horn motif at 0:20 of “Off the Waterfront” sounds kind of like the sequence in 4&5th bars of the theme in the Anthony Daniels videos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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filmmusic 1,829 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 On 12/10/2019 at 10:11 PM, Jay said: 03 We Go Together (2:10) 0:14 NEW THEME #2 (new character theme?) 0:30 NEW THEME #2 (Anakin's Theme-esque B section?) 1:07 Rey's Theme 1:21 The Force Theme 1:58 NEW THEME #2 (Anakin's Theme-esque B section?) I don't know if it was mentioned, but the new theme #2 starts earlier the second time. At 1.45 and then at 1.52 it changes direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Still waiting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 Waiting for what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Lol Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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