HOOK (1991) - NEW! 2023 3-CD Ultimate Edition Produced, Edited, and Mastered by Mike Matessino featuring all Williams/Bricusse songs

[JTN 2,030]

33 minutes ago, BB-8 said:

I'm not really hooked by this witchy trailer music.

Oh, I didn't even listen to it, thanks! 

 

Now listen to THIS!

 

[BB-8 3,479]

2 minutes ago, crumbs said:

 

Wholeness...not holeness nor toothless.

[Thor 7,511]

2 hours ago, crumbs said:

 

That's essentially what disc 3 looks like; the original song recordings presented alongside the score's core thematic ideas, in chronological order. Even the OST version of Remembering Childhood made the assembly, which is a great touch (clearly Williams was partial to this track because it was ported to the previous LLL expansion as well).

 

Yeah, but for the "core thematic material", I already have the old Epic CD, which was already too long to begin with and is already more than enough for my need.  I'd rather just take out the songs from this set and create a new mini album out of it, perhaps using this set's cover art, or some custom one. Hopefully, we (i.e. IFMCA) will get a digital version of this set by the end of the year, so I can start fiddling around with it. Looking forward to hearing the songs that did NOT end up in the film. I'd be willing to keep the source cues, if they're fun. It would probably look like this, then:

 

 1. We Don’t Wanna Grow Up * 1:52
 2. God Rest Ye Merry, Gentlemen 1:10
 3. Childhood * 3:54
 4. When You’re Alone – Moira’s Lullaby * :46
  8. Low Below – Pirate Sequence * 4:58
 11. The Never Song * 2:04
 12. The Never-Band 1:20
 13. The Never-Feast 4:42
 15. Mothers * 2:26
 16. Stick With Me * 2:00
 19. Believe * 3:01

 

Total time: Approximately 28-29 minutes.

[BB-8 3,479]

3 minutes ago, JTW said:

Oh, I didn't even listen to it, thanks! 

 

Now listen to THIS!

 

That's more like it.

[bollemanneke 3,349]

When You're Alone Instrumental. Bring it on.

[JTN 2,030]

HOOK is a milestone in Williams' career because it’s the first score of his after a long collaboration that wasn't orchestrated by Herbert W. Spencer, but John Neufeld. 

[Marian Schedenig 8,200]

[Nemesis 245]

Is it known what elements are beeing used? @Jay?

[KittBash 282]

AHHH!!!!!!! 

OK breath, whoa....... Hook in Matessino's hands! Cannot wait for this and yes we need every detail from everyone involved PRONTO!!! LOL  

And of course ORDERED 10 seconds after I woke up checked my phone and saw this! 

[bollemanneke 3,349]

I don't care about elements, I've got the Neverfeast insert. To hell with the rest. Sort of.

[Bespin 8,483]

ORDERED!

 

I would have loved to order Lost World too, but I'll wait until next year for a reprint. Then, I'll order it along with Zorro and Sneakers.

 

Regarding 'Hook,' since I only own the OST, I couldn't take the chance to miss it!

 

60 $ USD (87 $ CAD!) with the shipping fees, that will be my Christmas gift from me to me!

[Richard Penna 3,694]

7 minutes ago, bollemanneke said:

I don't care about elements, I've got the Neverfeast insert. To hell with the rest. Sort of.

 

Exactly the same thought with my #1 grail a few years ago. Just needed the one cue!

[blondheim 1,157]

I’m honestly squeezing out happy tears as I have already ordered.

 

285470

 

I may have it tattooed.

 

I had a feeling it was coming. I really can’t begin to describe how happy I am. I didn’t want to order more than one thing in the cart because I want it to come as soon as possible with no hold ups. I will order everything else in a minute. Idc about shipping costs. Not today.

 

It’s the day we’ve been waiting for, believers. And it’s beautiful.

[Bespin 8,483]

I'm happy too!

[BB-8 3,479]

Is there already a spreadsheet where we can compare tracklists between the previous 2 CD edition of Hook and the new one?

[crumbs 14,317]

2 minutes ago, BB-8 said:

Is there already a spreadsheet where we can compare tracklists between the previous 2 CD edition of Hook and the new one?

 

The previous 2CD version would be 100% redundant, unless you want the Prologue running at the wrong speed and a bunch of low quality film stem tracks

[BB-8 3,479]

I was thinking more in terms of amount of previously unreleased material in minutes.

[Chris Shaneyfelt 5]

2 hours ago, QuartalHarmony said:

Indeed - I can't remember what the Prologue music ended up being used for, though I think it's been mentioned on here. Was it used on an obscure teaser, or was it intended for trailer use but never actually used?

 

There's this on YouTube, but they're unclear about whether it was actually released or not:

 

Yes, that teaser trailer absolutely was released with the "Prologue" music - I saw it in the theater years ago and was excited for the film and John Williams's score! 
 

The new LLL album looks magnificent  - what a sumptuous musical feast this will be! 

[King Mark 3,631]

 Ordered along with Sabrina

 

 I  made my Hook Score Playlist by selecting tracks from previous releases and bootlegs (especially for the Ultimate War cues) and I was pretty happy with it. I even managed to make a Never Feast insert edit that sounded pretty good from one of the concorde boot tracks that had it.

 

So right now I'm not as excited about this release as some others because I feel I already have a pretty decent and complete listening experience for this score and I generally don't care much for songs . But I just hope this release somehow tops it and they didn't use MP3 leaks to make it ( although it's still much better than the film stems used in the previous release). 

[bollemanneke 3,349]

46 minutes ago, crumbs said:

 

The previous 2CD version would be 100% redundant, unless you want the Prologue running at the wrong speed and a bunch of low quality film stem tracks

I actually really like the prologue at that wrong speed. I heard it like that first and it just... sounded natural.

[phbart 609]

This annoucement got me hooked.

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433]

Ordered along with Zorro and Sneakers

[Sandor 797]

You Are The Pan from the original 1991 soundtrack release has always been one of my favorite John Williams compositions. I know it was editorially created combining two cues from the score, but it worked so organically and powerful. I consider it one of Williams' smartest and most effective producing decisions. 

 

The version on the Expanded Soundtrack which featured the choral version of The Face Of Pan instead of the purely orchestral one that was included on the original soundtrack, has appeared in my Top 10 favorite Williams' pieces for years now.

 

 

The only thing missing from the Ultimate Edition -but this is probably a completely personal sentiment- is the You Are The Pan/The Face Of Pan construction I've been familiar with since 1991.

 

[Jay 37,369]

5 hours ago, QuartalHarmony said:

I will emit a sigh of relief when/if I hear for certain that the 48kHz/44.1kHz speed error in the Prologue has been properly corrected

 

We included Prologue in the samples provided on La-La Land's website, so that everyone would know that it plays at the correct speed 

 

https://lalalandrecords.com/hook-the-ultimate-edition-expanded-remastered-limited-edition-3-cd-set/

 

We also made sure all 12 major themes (the six that started life as songs and the six that came after) are represented. I think every sample except Banning Back Home and The Lost Boy Chase feature at least one of the score's twelve themes. 

 

Also, you can hear Prologue (Extended Version) in this video. 

[Holko 9,529]

You also did a nice job teasing the new stuff, a sample of one song, one insrumental of a new song, one film vocal but not in full, a newly released film insert but not in full, a newly restired dialed out bit but not in full...

[Jay 37,369]

All precisely intended

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433]

Nice can't wait to receive it

[blondheim 1,157]

I’m curious how the different sections are divided. Additional music are album versions? Bonus tracks are…? I’m certain the booklet will have this information too I’m just curious

 

it also could be in this thread somewhere. I haven’t had time to read it every thing properly

[JTN 2,030]

1 hour ago, BB-8 said:

Is there already a spreadsheet where we can compare tracklists between the previous 2 CD edition of Hook and the new one?

I think Jay has had it ready for two years. HOOK was already in the pipeline in 2021.

[Bayesian 1,363]

Have we remarked yet on how beautiful the album art is? The album cover is perfect for a definitive edition with its near-regal color palette and uncluttered layout. (Not that I had any problem with the previous expansion's art -- I've always loved the way that cover was put together.) And from the LLL spash art for this release, it's amply clear we're going to get visual resplendence on all of the (many) pages of the booklets! (Is that splash piece available in larger resolution anywhere??)

 

There's something intangible but essential added to the enjoyment of music when you see it nestled in a beautifully designed package. It's a big part of the reason I collect CDs, and in this regard, LLL is the standard-bearer. Jim Titus, we owe you a huge and heartfelt thanks.

 

EDIT: The facebook page for this release has the splash art in larger size.

[JTN 2,030]

Jim is the Drew Struzan of soundtrack art design.

[Holko 9,529]

I love the splash art but somehow the cover is less than I expected. In thumbnail form it'll especially be a bit too dark and indistinct, maybe the title cpuld've been filled with some colour or the borders thickened.

[1977 1,743]

2 hours ago, BB-8 said:

Is there already a spreadsheet where we can compare tracklists between the previous 2 CD edition of Hook and the new one?

 

Jay did a spreadsheet with the prior versions so hopefully he will update it - or already has

 

2 minutes ago, Holko said:

I love the splash art but somehow the cover is less than I expected. In thumbnail form it'll especially be a bit too dark and indistinct, maybe the title cpuld've been filled with some colour or the borders thickened.

 

Someone here posted a custom cover a year or two ago as a joke. It was actually a terrific cover, wish I could remember who it was - Crumbs perhaps?

[King Mark 3,631]

That music that was dialed out of the film in The End of Hook (heard in the samples) has got to be the most thrilling bit of Williams unused music ever

[A. A. Ron 1,742]

God, the 2ish week wait to get this is gonna be rough!

[Holko 9,529]

6 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said:

Someone here posted a custom cover a year or two ago as a joke. It was actually a terrific cover, wish I could remember who it was - Crumbs perhaps?

Ah, this?

 

On 30/04/2021 at 2:37 PM, crumbs said:

 

 

[JTN 2,030]

51 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

We included Prologue in the samples provided on La-La Land's website, so that everyone would know that it plays at the correct speed 

 

https://lalalandrecords.com/hook-the-ultimate-edition-expanded-remastered-limited-edition-3-cd-set/

 

We also made sure all 12 major themes (the six that started life as songs and the six that came after) are represented. I think every sample except Banning Back Home and The Lost Boy Chase feature at least one of the score's twelve themes. 

 

Also, you can hear Prologue (Extended Version) in this video. 

Sounds amazing!

[bollemanneke 3,349]

12 minutes ago, King Mark said:

That music that was dialed out of the film in The End of Hook has got to be the most thrilling bit of Williams unused music ever

I dunno... The Hunt comes to mind.

[JohnnyD 1,223]

HOLY CRAP! YES! HOOK! ORDERED! STARTS SHIPPING THE DAY BEFORE MY BIRTHDAY! YES!

[Faleel 5,355]

23 minutes ago, bollemanneke said:

I dunno... The Hunt comes to mind.

"That music that was dialed out of the film in The End of Hook has got to be the most thrilling bit of Williams unused short section of music ever"

 

Better?

[GerateWohl 4,370]

Interesting that Hook has become such a fan favourite,

I remember, when it came out, the score had a reputation of an average work of Williams on autopilot.

We were so spoiled at that time.

 

[BB-8 3,479]

1 hour ago, Sandor said:

You Are The Pan from the original 1991 soundtrack release has always been one of my favorite John Williams compositions. I know it was editorially created combining two cues from the score, but it worked so organically and powerful. I consider it one of Williams' smartest and most effective producing decisions. 

 

The version on the Expanded Soundtrack in particular which featured the choral version of The Face Of Pan instead of the purely orchestral one that was included on the original soundtrack, has appeared in my Top 10 favorite Williams' pieces for years now.

 

 

The only thing missing from the Ultimate Edition -but this is probably a completely personal sentiment- is the You Are The Pan/The Face Of Pan construction I've been familiar with since 1991.

 

I just love those religioso elements!

[Faleel 5,355]

11 minutes ago, BB-8 said:

I just love those religioso elements!

"That's what @Thor said"

[John F 100]

My big question of this new set would be if that big sword fight cue towards the end of the Ultimate Way is still abruptly cut in half into separate cues  like it was on the previous Lala set. Hope not.

[Holko 9,529]

20 minutes ago, GerateWohl said:

Interesting that Hook has become such a fan favourite,

I remember, when it came out, the score had a reputation of an average work of Williams on autopilot.

We were so spoiled at that time.

 

Some weirdos still say HP1 is just boring autopilot too. Most new scores get a weird semi-backlash on arrival as far as I've seen, mostly because people expect them to be like the 77-84 JWs or something.

[BB-8 3,479]

Preparing for Christmas to impress Santa...

 

[Faleel 5,355]

2 minutes ago, Holko said:

Some weirdos still say HP1 is just boring autopilot too. Most new scores get a weird semi-backlash on arrival as far as I've seen, mostly because people expect them to be like the 77-84 JWs or something.

Some people found Jurassic Park, to be the harbinger of doom for JW back in the day.

[Holko 9,529]

And now it's slightly overrated!

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[MrJosh 892]

Wow, what a beautiful moment this is. To know that Hook has received the thorough treatment and love it deserves to have! I can't wait to sit down and enjoy this massive amount of fantastic score. 

 

I'm so glad and surprised that Williams was okay with including the songs & source music! 

 

I can't wait to dig into the two booklets!!!

 

[Faleel 5,355]

1 minute ago, Holko said:

And now it's slightly overrated!

 

 

 

 

 

 

runs

GET BACK HERE!!!

 

Just now, MrJosh said:

Wow, what a beautiful moment this is. To know that Hook has received the thorough treatment and love it deserves to have! I can't wait to sit down and enjoy this massive amount of fantastic score. 

 

I'm so glad and surprised that Williams was okay with including the songs & source music! 

 

I can't wait to dig into the two booklets!!!

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