The Official La-La Land Records Thread

[1977 1,743]

25 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said:

I’ve long wondered why The Paper Chase never got a nice new edition (while its FSM disc partner The Poseidon Adventure has, somewhat understandably, been released multiple times since).

 

Yavar

 

And they could include that longish cue from Conrack while they're at it. Perhaps some sfx minimising can be done with the rest of the score that only exists in music+ effects stem form. Or they could just dump it on there in archival quality for the completists. Heck I'd buy it just to get decent cover artwork for these two scores.

 

[Faleel 5,365]

2 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said:

 

And they could include that longish cue from Conrack while they're at it. Perhaps some sfx minimising can be done with the rest of the score that only exists in stem form.

 

By the time they get to it, we will just be able to extract it ourselves with AI

[1977 1,743]

Just now, Signals said:

By the time they get to it, we will just be able to extract it ourselves with AI

 

Or AI will be able to convincingly recreate older archival recordings in pristine modern sound quality!

(I wish)

[Yavar Moradi 2,604]

Oh for sure. Let Chris Malone work his magic and maybe more of Conrack can be salvaged in music-only form. (See: Towering Inferno, Take Her She’s Mine, or the new Leith Stevens War of the Worlds…)

 

8 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said:

What's the holdup on Reivers again? Surely that's a score Williams wouldn't deem unworthy?

Years ago I think MV said there was some kind of rights complication. Maybe one day it’ll get cleared up. Other things he’s previously declared “not gonna happen” (i.e. Twister) later did come out.

 

Yavar

[1977 1,743]

Reminds me of the time years back when some big shot at Fox said in a chatroom to never expect an extended cut of Alien³. Well lo and behold we got an extended cut less than a year later.

I'd settle for a monologue free release of the BPO Reivers suite on that Sony CD.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,556]

It was good to get The Assembly Cut of ALIEN ³ cleaned up, including some of the actors come in, and redub their lines.

It shows dedication.

 

 

[Jay 37,378]

14 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said:

What's the holdup on Reivers again? Surely that's a score Williams wouldn't deem unworthy?

 

Elements have never been found anywhere. 

[Richard Penna 3,696]

28 minutes ago, Signals said:

By the time they get to it, we will just be able to extract it ourselves with AI

 

Well, we can already, to an extent, get clean music that has dialogue over it, without resorting to the old centre channel removal trick. I just used A.I. to remove two cast performances from the FotR CR.

[Marian Schedenig 8,211]

27 minutes ago, Jay said:

Elements have never been found anywhere. 

 

Even without better elements, surely they could still do something based on the old album? I have the Columbia release, but even without better elements, I would imagine modern technology could somewhat improve the sound. And it's certainly a score that deserves to be available. (Of course, if they're holding off in the hopes of locating more/better elements in the not too distant future, I'll be happy with the Columbia until then).

[1977 1,743]

Just in from MV at FSM:

 

I just want to add one more thing about the lack of golden and silver age titles.

Warner Bros and Fox were a huge part of FSM release slate.

Both companies as of 2023 are not working with the labels any more

(WB closing its doors and Fox being absorbed by Disney).

 

Disney works with Intrada, but apparently there are approval issues and delays.

 

Sony has element issues.

 

MGM and Paramount are wonderful to work with but so much of their catalogs have been mined there is not much left.

 

That leaves Universal....we have some great projects lined up with them, two of them scheduled for this year both from the 1960s. And more in 2024.

Before WB and Fox shut down we had some amazing titles we were looking into, but alas they were not meant to be at this time.

MV

 

 

So I guess no more Fox titles either.

 

Wonder what he means by Sony having element issues. 

 

Seems the golden age of soundtrack releases is slowly drawing to a close.

[Jay 37,378]

Mike Matessino posted in the thread too

As someone in the front line trenches, I can attest to the approval madness. It has measurably cut into the time for working on the music. But at least the titles that are taking so long are very much worthwhile.

[bollemanneke 3,352]

So that means HP4 is definitely not happening?

[Jay 37,378]

It means that his label is not currently working on any WB, Fox, or Disney titles, but continue to work on MGM, Paramount, and Universal titles.

I don't know what the part about Sony elements means.

 

~

 

He just confirmed they are doing nothing with WB:

 

So, just to clarify - no Batman & Robin Adventures in near future, until WB will be friendly again, right?

Correct. As of right now that and any WB title we had going are DOA

MV

[DangerMotif 1,038]

I would assume the big Matessino title is one of the 1960’s universal releases 

[bollemanneke 3,352]

13 minutes ago, Jay said:

It means that his label is not currently working on any WB, Fox, or Disney titles, but continue to work on MGM, Paramount, and Universal titles.

I don't know what the part about Sony elements means.

 

~

 

He just confirmed they are doing nothing with WB:

 

So, just to clarify - no Batman & Robin Adventures in near future, until WB will be friendly again, right?

Correct. As of right now that and any WB title we had going are DOA

MV

Wait, is he saying that titles have been cancelled even though work had already begun on them? This is beyond mad. Who's gonna pay those who did the work?

[DangerMotif 1,038]

14 minutes ago, DangerMotif said:

I would assume the big Matessino title is one of the 1960’s universal releases 

Hoping it's a Herrmann release, maybe a Herrmann Hitchcock box set or something

[Marian Schedenig 8,211]

15 minutes ago, bollemanneke said:

Wait, is he saying that titles have been cancelled even though work had already begun on them? This is beyond mad. Who's gonna pay those who did the work?

 

Welcome to the business world.

[Tom Guernsey 2,287]

This is all a bit “cost of everything, value of nothing” from (some of) the studios. Which is of no surprise. Madness as if you went in and sneaked out the elements to some random film score from years ago that nobody remembers, I doubt anyone would even notice… of course the main hope is that things change. Studios that used to be closed off opened up. I’m sure it comes and comes. Just have to hope elements are preserved. 

[Jay 37,378]

MV clarified the Sony part

 

To put it frankly...they can't find shit

Lol

It's not easy finding music elements over there. We have run into issues many many times over the years

MV

[Marian Schedenig 8,211]

45 minutes ago, Jay said:

MV clarified the Sony part

 

To put it frankly...they can't find shit

Lol

It's not easy finding music elements over there. We have run into issues many many times over the years

MV

 

Sounds like a dream job for an army of interns.

[Jay 37,378]

2 hours ago, JTWfan77 said:

Universal....we have some great projects lined up with them, two of them scheduled for this year both from the 1960s

 

Speculate away

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Universal_Pictures_films_(1960–1969)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NBCUniversal_television_programs

[Luke Skywalker 1,796]

The rare breed? 😔

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433]

Well a John Williams at Universal vol. 1 could be more than welcome. I guess a King Kong vs. Godzilla could get a expansion I mean LLL did several Kong before

[Jay 37,378]

Latest post from MV in the thread

 

I want to apologize for being so open about the rough time we have with bringing projects to life and the harsh realities we face. To Sony, WB, Disney, MGM, Universal and Paramount my sincere apologies if my words came across in a demeaning any way. We appreciate all the efforts being made by the people at the studios who help make these miracles happen.

 

MV

 

 

[TSMefford 1,509]

Damn. All that sucks to hear.

 

Although - there's a few great scores from Paramount that I'd love to see expanded, one of which (Thomas Newman's Lemony Snicket) has it's 20th Anniversary next year, so fingers crossed, but I somehow doubt they're working on it. Maybe with a lack of other releases they might.

[Slitherjump 6]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

Latest post from MV in the thread

 

I want to apologize for being so open about the rough time we have with bringing projects to life and the harsh realities we face. To Sony, WB, Disney, MGM, Universal and Paramount my sincere apologies if my words came across in a demeaning any way. We appreciate all the efforts being made by the people at the studios who help make these miracles happen.

 

MV

 

 

Shoot just noticed now that the FSM thread is now locked from new comments. Really hoping nothing more gets revoked from LLL resulting of revealing that information 

[1977 1,743]

That's weird. Wonder who rapped him over the knuckles.

 

10 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said:

The rare breed? 😔

 

We can dream I guess

[bollemanneke 3,352]

Yes, let's apologise to all the studios. I love you WB for not just slapping a signature on something. Thank you. Thank you for allowing Mike Matessino and other dedicated people to do the work that should have been done on day one. I bow to thee. In all fairness, it's really great to hear him speak so positively of Universal, but I have no patience whatsoever with WB. Just sell off your entire damn catalogue if you're doing nothing constructive with it.

[iamleyeti 114]

16 hours ago, Jay said:

He just confirmed they are doing nothing with WB:

 

So, just to clarify - no Batman & Robin Adventures in near future, until WB will be friendly again, right?

Correct. As of right now that and any WB title we had going are DOA

MV

I'll get my official Sphere Expanded Edition one day… yes… I will…………………

[crumbs 14,319]

If Universal JW scores are being prioritized, BOT4J would have to be a shoe-in. I think it's the only MCA Records score that hasn't been expanded.

[1977 1,743]

Hopefully there aren't rights issues because of the songs.

[Bounty95 558]

On 07/09/2023 at 7:52 PM, Jay said:

MV clarified the Sony part

 

To put it frankly...they can't find shit

Lol

It's not easy finding music elements over there. We have run into issues many many times over the years

MV

 

I hope this doesn't mean that we will never get Hook because they "can't find shit". 

[Marian Schedenig 8,211]

21 minutes ago, Bounty95 said:

I hope this doesn't mean that we will never get Hook because they "can't find shit". 

 

Isn't that pretty much what happened last time?

[Richard Penna 3,696]

And the Ghostbusters 2 release a few years ago is incomplete because they couldn't find all the tapes.

[bollemanneke 3,352]

1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said:

 

Isn't that pretty much what happened last time?

Yes but last time Mike was not involved.

[Schilkeman 964]

Is the 05 King Kong after the cutoff? I would love that one, although the ost is solid.

[Bellosh 3,419]

god i would love a complete Kong 2005.  

 

it's a masterpiece.  proof by all the votes here:  

 

 

Edit: 😂😂😂 wtf are the odds that that gif is on the link preview 

 

That gif used to always make me laugh. I miss gruesome 

[Edmilson 7,474]

12 minutes ago, Schilkeman said:

Is the 05 King Kong after the cutoff? I would love that one, although the ost is solid.

I think it is. The movie came up in December 2005 and, as far as I know, JNH was recording it until weeks before the movie came up.

 

According to Wikipedia, the recording sessions began in late October 2005. Also, it was recorded in LA. So yeah, unfortunately for us, an expansion is unlikely. 

[crumbs 14,319]

Kong is past the cutoff, yeah. From memory the date is around July 2005 (barely a few weeks after WOTW finished recording).

 

The AFM can grant waivers though, at their discretion...

[Richard Penna 3,696]

Good news that Universal is open for business, although if they only have two 60s releases this year, we're not getting JP3 before 2024. Really sucks about WB and Potter though. Thank goodness we got the box when we did.

 

On 08/09/2023 at 10:16 AM, iamleyeti said:

I'll get my official Sphere Expanded Edition one day… yes… I will…………………

 

I suggest you learn to be satisfied with the complete leak  Let's face it, aside from any alternates, an official release is going to sound exactly the same. If WB don't care any more, I feel no guilt.

[crumbs 14,319]

It's a little mystifying that JP3 hasn't happened yet, but considering 1 and 2 just got reissued you'd have to think it's in the pipeline... right?!

 

Unless the rumours are true and JW hated the score and the labels don't want to upset him by pursuing an expansion.

[Tom Guernsey 2,287]

1 hour ago, crumbs said:

It's a little mystifying that JP3 hasn't happened yet, but considering 1 and 2 just got reissued you'd have to think it's in the pipeline... right?!

 

Unless the rumours are true and JW hated the score and the labels don't want to upset him by pursuing an expansion.

One would hope so... I think it's a terrific entry (as I've said many times), with DD doing lots of interesting things with JW's themes and some great action music. I can't see why he'd dislike it; it may have been completely different to what he would have done, but technically it's a well wrought work and the integration of JW's themes is significantly more effective and interesting than, say, Rogue One, where you can kinda understand if JW wasn't that thrilled. Hopefully it'll suddenly appear from behind the bushes like a... clever girl!

[Richard Penna 3,696]

1 hour ago, crumbs said:

It's a little mystifying that JP3 hasn't happened yet, but considering 1 and 2 just got reissued you'd have to think it's in the pipeline... right?!

 

Unless the rumours are true and JW hated the score and the labels don't want to upset him by pursuing an expansion.

 

I do hope that's nothing more than a rumour started by some bitter Williams fanboy. It would go down as one of the most pathetic conceivable reasons not to release a score. Plus he recommended Davis for the job.

 

And given the reissues, that's why it stings just a tad that JW has all the attention and Davis has so far just been ignored. Hopefully it's down the line for 2024

[Marian Schedenig 8,211]

1 hour ago, Tom Guernsey said:

Hopefully it'll suddenly appear from behind the bushes like a... clever girl!

 

[Marian Schedenig 8,211]

On 08/09/2023 at 11:16 AM, iamleyeti said:

I'll get my official Sphere Expanded Edition one day… yes… I will…………………

 

Maybe this could trigger a new release…

 

[Corellian2019 386]

Damn, Goldenthal's Heat can't catch a break, huh? First the rights get transferred to Fox, then Disney, and now apparently there are delays with approvals at Disney with Intrada

[Mr. Who 919]

On 9/9/2023 at 3:08 PM, Marian Schedenig said:

 

What movie is this from lol?

[Jay 37,378]

Total Recall. 

[Marian Schedenig 8,211]

 

[Jay 37,378]