John Williams video featurette for Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny

[JNHFan2000 2,967]

 

 

[Muad'Dib 1,802]

Some cool sounding bits in there!

[Jay 37,372]

He's wearing glasses in all the footage here

 

Why did KK say 3 notes instead of 4 notes

[Bellosh 3,419]

1:44-1:45 is a neat little raiders march bit

 

same with 1:52

 

:32-:35 sounds so good too

[JNHFan2000 2,967]

Sounds like some music from the film and a new recording of the Raiders March.

Soooo excited!!

[Edmilson 7,468]

And we have our first glimpse of the sheets!

 

Unfortunately, I think it's just the concert suite of Helena's Theme for the OST album. Note that there aren't any reel/part numbers.

 

[Jay 37,372]

Good eye!

[JTN 2,037]

10 minutes ago, Jay said:

Why did KK say 3 notes instead of 4 notes

Why did KK say she would make great Star Wars movies?

1 minute ago, Jay said:

Good eye!

He has glasses.

[Bellosh 3,419]

star wars fans go a thread without mentioning star wars challenge: impossible.

[JTN 2,037]

5 minutes ago, Bellosh said:

star wars fans go a thread without mentioning star wars challenge: impossible.

Here we go again. 
 

It’s amazing how excited a new John Williams score can still make me. He truly represents the one last good aspect of the Hollywood blockbuster.

Give ‘em hell, John!

[Edmilson 7,468]

6 minutes ago, Bellosh said:

star wars fans go a thread without mentioning star wars and specifically The Last Jedi challenge: impossible.

Fixed.

[JTN 2,037]

3 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

Fixed.

Honestly The Force Awakens was just as bad, TLJ only made it a lot worse.

 Now back to our regular program:

I believe DoD will be a better score than KotCS. 

[DangerMotif 1,038]

I think we hear the Tintin like piece here

[ins 42]

Wow! 0:36-0:47 alone signals me I'll love this score .

[TheUlyssesian 2,478]

4 minutes ago, DangerMotif said:

I think we hear the Tintin like piece here

 

Yes 0:38

[Alex 2,835]

47 minutes ago, JNHFan2000 said:

 

 

I like how JW thanks the orchestra for coming as if they´re not contractually obligated to be there.

[BB-8 3,481]

1 hour ago, Muad'Dib said:

Some cool sounding bits in there!

Yeah, that variation on Helena's Theme.

 

Btw, is that ASM's hand?

 

EDIT: No, sorry it's too hairy. But ASM is clearly seen in some shots.

[Damien F 1,742]

Did they use some of the de-aging tech on JW for that featurette because he looks incredible for a nonagenarian.

[JohnnyD 1,223]

Each weekend this month, I have been watching each of the four films on 4K Blu-Ray with Dolby Vision picture and Dolby Atmos sound, building up to June 29th. This makes me all the more excited!

[Alex 2,835]

Some of that footage looks like it must be from the KOTSC sessions

[Tom 4,669]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

He's wearing glasses in all the footage here

 

Why did KK say 3 notes instead of 4 notes

She might have misspoke, but given how ingrained this piece is in the mind of filmgoers, the first three notes suffice for recognition--one's mind literally fills in the 4th.  

[Jay 37,372]

26 minutes ago, Damien F said:

Did they use some of the de-aging tech on JW for that featurette because he looks incredible for a nonagenarian.

 

The footage of JW talking around 0:47 in this video is from KOCS behind the scenes stuff, not anything new

 

 

 

And the recording session footage seems to be a blend of Last Crusade, KOCS, and DOD sessions

[Faleel 5,359]

1 hour ago, JNHFan2000 said:

 

 

Sounds great!!!

[mrbellamy 6,288]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

Why did KK say 3 notes instead of 4 notes

 

Why expect somebody to be 100% accurate with how many notes begin a theme when they're just speaking off-the-cuff 

[Jay 37,372]

But its the first 4 notes that make the theme instantly recognizable, not the first 3.  I dunno.

[Faleel 5,359]

2 minutes ago, Jay said:

But its the first 4 notes that make the theme instantly recognizable, not the first 3.  I dunno.

Maybe she only recognizes it with the B melody

[Tallguy 3,401]

5 minutes ago, A Farewell to Kings said:

Maybe she only recognizes it with the B melody

 

That's deep.

[Courtney Sees Ghosts 269]

John Williams: "Look James, I'm old af and I wanna do other shit. Can I just write themes?"

James Mangold: "Sure man, whatever you like!"

John Williams: "Thank you!" *Proceeds to write the entire score*

[JTN 2,037]

1 hour ago, Alex said:

I like how JW thanks the orchestra for coming as if they´re not contractually obligated to be there.

Always the gentleman. 

58 minutes ago, mrbellamy said:

 

Why expect somebody to be 100% accurate with how many notes begin a theme when they're just speaking off-the-cuff 

If you’re not certain about something, don’t say it. It was a recording, she could’ve stopped and ask her husband or maybe John Williams then answer again.
It’s called being ignorant and lazy.

54 minutes ago, A Farewell to Kings said:

Maybe she only recognizes it with the B melody

Spielberg should’ve whistled it to her.

[PokeDocMatt 57]

Sounds like Raiders theme is just a couple BPM slower. I like it. Less rushed. More secure in what it is at this point in Indy’s life. 

[JTN 2,037]

3 minutes ago, PokeDocMatt said:

More secure in what it is at this point in Indy’s life. 

And in Williams’ life.

[mrbellamy 6,288]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

But its the first 4 notes that make the theme instantly recognizable, not the first 3.  I dunno.

 

16 minutes ago, JTW said:

If you’re not certain about something, don’t say it. It was a recording, she could’ve stopped and ask her husband or maybe John Williams then answer again.

It’s called being ignorant and lazy.

 

You guys are hilarious 

[Richard Penna 3,694]

45 minutes ago, JTW said:

If you’re not certain about something, don’t say it. It was a recording, she could’ve stopped and ask her husband or maybe John Williams then answer again.
It’s called being ignorant and lazy.

 

Or... saying an impromptu soundbite about how few notes a great theme needs to announce itself. Jeez.

 

Not a fan of that featurette myself - why did JW not talk about the themes he'd created or the overall sound of the score? It's just a backslapping puff piece that adds nothing whatsoever to our understanding of the score.

[Alex 2,835]

45 minutes ago, JTW said:

If you’re not certain about something, don’t say it. It was a recording, she could’ve stopped and ask her husband or maybe John Williams then answer again.
It’s called being ignorant and lazy.

 

Unintentionally one of the most hilarious things I have read on this website

[Richard Penna 3,694]

You'd think KK had credited William Ross with composing the score to provoke that.

[Damien F 1,742]

Maybe KK does programming and she was actually using a zero based index when referring to the number of notes.

[Muad'Dib 1,802]

2 hours ago, BB-8 said:

But ASM is clearly seen in some shots.

 

Yeah, she seems to be playing first violin.

[Courtney Sees Ghosts 269]

1 hour ago, JTW said:

Spielberg should’ve whistled it to her.

"I understood that reference." 

[Faleel 5,359]

1 hour ago, Richard Penna said:

 

That featurette's a backslapping puff piece that adds nothing whatsoever to our understanding of the score.

We got to hear the music.

 

So it did.

2 hours ago, JTW said:

 

If you’re not certain about something, don’t say it. It was a recording, she could’ve stopped and ask her husband or maybe John Williams then answer again.
It’s called being ignorant and lazy.

Maybe you should stop and ask your husband before posting off the cuff.

[Gabriel Bezerra 302]

One day I managed to recognize the theme before the theme itself started playing, just that first second of the March was enough, so in a way, she's right, who needs the four notes to recognize it? She should have said one note.

[Manakin Skywalker 4,897]

4 hours ago, Jay said:

Why did KK say 3 notes instead of 4 notes

 

To be fair she didn't say that the opening was 3 notes, just that you'd probably be able to recognize what it is in the first 3 notes. Which, at least to me, is accurate.

[Loert 2,515]

This reminds me of that time when JW mentioned how he uses the "7th on the bottom" when writing suspense music and all the music theorists on JWFAN went berserk trying to figure out what he was talking about

[SilverTrumpet 638]

Some little thoughts, but I have feelings...

 

- Helena's Theme is the most beautiful thing Williams has written in....at least 20 years? The character seems like a schmuck but the theme is undeniably incredible. 

- Anna Sophie is there? Or was that another record session they used since...

- Williams's contribution was very obviously from an older score, I see some say it was Crystal Skull, which makes sense from what he was saying.

4 hours ago, Jay said:

Why did KK say 3 notes instead of 4 notes

- Because she's a moron

- Some of the new bits, the faster stuff, sounds incredible. I know some don't like that type of Williams composing but I love the energy

 

I couldn't care less about the movie and probably won't bother to see it, but I cannot wait for this score.

[Manakin Skywalker 4,897]

I was going to say, that's definitely Anne-Sophia Mutter at the 1:08 mark.

[Jay 37,372]

We have known for four months that Mutter recorded a violin version of Helena's theme for the album and/or film.

[Doug Adams 494]

Not to wade into the modern minefield of Lucasfilm discussion, but isn’t KK referring to the opening trombone figure? (One … and-a-three.)

 

That conjures Indy in just three notes, doesn’t it? 
 

I’m jet-lagged and only watched the video once. So I apologize if I misinterpreted. 

[Manakin Skywalker 4,897]

2 minutes ago, Jay said:

We have known for four months that Mutter recorded a violin version of Helena's theme for the album and/or film.

 

You know, I just found saw that post and somehow skimmed right past the quote 

[Jay 37,372]

24 minutes ago, Doug Adams said:

Not to wade into the modern minefield of Lucasfilm discussion, but isn’t KK referring to the opening trombone figure? (One … and-a-three.)

 

That conjures Indy in just three notes, doesn’t it? 
 

I’m jet-lagged and only watched the video once. So I apologize if I misinterpreted. 

 

I assumed she was talking about the opening trombone figure, yes (Ba-da-da-DAH, ba-da BAH!)

 

1-2-3-4.... 5-6-7.

 

EDIT: No wait!  Not trombone, trumpet! I thought she was talking about the trumpet rendition of the main theme, not the opening trombone ostinato!  Did everybody else think she was talking about the ostinato?

 

 

23 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said:

You know, I just found saw that post and somehow skimmed right past the quote 

 

The quote? There's two Instagram posts in thread of her at the recording sessions, nothing to do with the concert performance of it (which is also in the thread)

[Doug Adams 494]

First measure is three notes. 

[Manakin Skywalker 4,897]

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