Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Score in the film) - SPOILERS ALLOWED!

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3 minutes ago, King Mark said:

Your the first one that found this. At least we have some of this cue but probably some of the actual underwater cue is unreleased

 

The OST track is certainly microedited; if you play the full Eels clip above, you'll hear the unreleased sections.

[Tydirium 1,167]

15 minutes ago, crumbs said:

Has anyone pointed out that a fragment of Water Ballet is used in the film for the scene where the planes lose control after breaching the time fissure?

 

 

 

However, I don't think this is OST editing trickery – the same music appears in the film for the eels sequence:

 

 

Starting to wonder if the film version of the time fissure scene is all tracked? Not only does the fragment of Spell of the Skull (as they're entering the fissure) sound almost identical to the KOCS recording, but it appears the following scene is tracked with music from Water Ballet.

 

I noticed this when I saw the film; forgot to mention it here. Also, I do think the “Spell of the Skull” is slightly different from the KOTCS recording… Doesn’t it show up twice? At least one of the times it plays, the instrumentation is a bit different (horns instead of trumpets, if I recall correctly). Unless there are alternates from 2008 that I’m not aware of(?).

[Tydirium 1,167]

Apologies if this has already been mentioned, but did anyone else notice that the music that scores Indy and Helena jumping out of the plane is from the end of “Out of Fuel,” from TOD?

 

EDIT: Just saw that it was mentioned in the cue breakdown thread.

[Luke Skywalker 1,795]

Should we call it the j”umping from a plane” motif-theme? 😄

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Someone posted the entire end credits on YouTube.

 

 

Some great unreleased music in there!

[Tydirium 1,167]

It’s unfortunate that such an annoying person had to be the one to take the video, lol.

[Alex 2,835]

Magical mwstewy touwr

[Edmilson 7,466]

Does anyone have a link for a video with the very beginning of the movie? I'm curious to see what the opening cue is and probably I'll only watch the movie in two weeks.

[Holko 9,526]

Comments are turned off. How do we tell her to shut the fuck up?

[BB-8 3,478]

1 hour ago, crumbs said:

Someone posted the entire end credits on YouTube.

 

 

Some great unreleased music in there!

 

[Tydirium 1,167]

19 minutes ago, Alex said:

Magical mwstewy touwr

 

“Space Audio”

[BB-8 3,478]

 

What saddens me is to see how many indifferent people just stand up and leave during the end credits - in Germany I would say 98 % of the audiences just walk out, even on JW..

 

My local cinema may even stop the end credits prematurely which is a clear indication for a lack of interest and loss of discipline and culture in the fast and superficial world of home cinema dwellers.

[paleo 63]

When watching DoD last weekend, I was the only one left in the theater for at least the last 5 minutes.

[Luke Skywalker 1,795]

I love that the b theme starts as williams name appears on screen

[TolkienSS 407]

2 hours ago, BB-8 said:

 

What saddens me is to see how many indifferent people just stand up and leave during the end credits - in Germany I would say 98 % of the audiences just walk out, even on JW..

 

My local cinema may even stop the end credits prematurely which is a clear indication for a lack of interest and loss of discipline and culture in the fast and superficial world of home cinema dwellers.

 

You simply overestimate the amount of people in any culture who are taking interest in film scoring.

People leave during every credits, not just IJ.

[crocodile 8,017]

2 hours ago, BB-8 said:

 

What saddens me is to see how many indifferent people just stand up and leave during the end credits - in Germany I would say 98 % of the audiences just walk out, even on JW..

 

My local cinema may even stop the end credits prematurely which is a clear indication for a lack of interest and loss of discipline and culture in the fast and superficial world of home cinema dwellers.

 

1 hour ago, paleo said:

When watching DoD last weekend, I was the only one left in the theater for at least the last 5 minutes.

I was the only one left as well. And the staff asked me if it's OK to switch it off because there's nothing after the credits. I just told them that I like the music and would like to listen to the rest of it so they left me alone. But it must have made them unhappy.

 

Karol

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

2 hours ago, BB-8 said:

 

What saddens me is to see how many indifferent people just stand up and leave during the end credits - in Germany I would say 98 % of the audiences just walk out, even on JW..

 

My local cinema may even stop the end credits prematurely which is a clear indication for a lack of interest and loss of discipline and culture in the fast and superficial world of home cinema dwellers.

Yeah, I was the only one left in the theater and the theater guys said "are you done yet?"

 

Now I'm gonna go to that theater way more often and watch the end credits all the way through for every movie

[Jilal 569]

I don't go to the cinema very often, but when I do go, there's always a bunch of people who choose to stay during the end credits (including yours truly of course). My stepfather didn't even complain last time when we went to see DOD together, which I consider an improvement.

[Loert 2,515]

When I saw TFA I stayed behind for the credits, as did another group of kids. But they were clearly just waiting for a post-credits scene, and they kept talking loudly over the music. It was doubly annoying since I had specifically avoided listening to the score on its own before the viewing, as I wanted to experience it for the first time in the cinema. Haven't made that mistake since!

[tranders65 65]

26 minutes ago, Loert said:

When I saw TFA I stayed behind for the credits, as did another group of kids. But they were clearly just waiting for a post-credits scene, and they kept talking loudly over the music. It was doubly annoying since I had specifically avoided listening to the score on its own before the viewing, as I wanted to experience it for the first time in the cinema. Haven't made that mistake since!

 I'm still somewhat stunned even after having it happen over and over again at how many people do stay thru end credits to see if there's something else coming (and there have been a good many people stay after in the movies I've attended the past few years - not a large group, mind you, but still more than a few).  Heck, they even check for after-credits scenes in older movies in a ton of Youtube reaction videos I occasionally watch, even though up until the Marvel movies started that pretty much hardly ever happened.   And pretty much still never happens unless it's a superhero movie.  Same thing happened when I saw DoD - older couple leaving from the row behind us looked at me and my wife and said "Well, guess no extra scenes" and I was like "Yeah, there's never been any extra scenes in any Indiana Jones movies", lol.

[Manakin Skywalker 4,897]

17 hours ago, crumbs said:

Not only does the fragment of Spell of the Skull (as they're entering the fissure) sound almost identical to the KOCS recording

 

I did match it up the other day and there were some very slight orchestration differences.

[Brando 1,864]

Jaws has a great end credits scene.

[Demodex 557]

I'm not staying in a theater just for end credits music

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

35 minutes ago, Demodex said:

I'm not staying in a theater just for end credits music

It often feels like you don't even like film music

[Marian Schedenig 8,200]

8 hours ago, BB-8 said:

What saddens me is to see how many indifferent people just stand up and leave during the end credits - in Germany I would say 98 % of the audiences just walk out, even on JW..

 

My local cinema may even stop the end credits prematurely which is a clear indication for a lack of interest and loss of discipline and culture in the fast and superficial world of home cinema dwellers.

 

5 hours ago, crocodile said:

I was the only one left as well. And the staff asked me if it's OK to switch it off because there's nothing after the credits. I just told them that I like the music and would like to listen to the rest of it so they left me alone. But it must have made them unhappy.

 

A friend said the cleaning staff complained about him staying for the credits. When I watched it at the IMAX, my friends and I stayed through the credits, as did a sizeable group a couple of rows in front of us.

 

I used to always stay until the end of the credits in any film I saw theatrically. I stopped doing that categorically when a) film scores by and large became more by the numbers and b) credits even of more "dramatic" films began using songs that sound like they were chosen to tell people that it's over and that they should now leave (it's not so much the quality of the songs as the style - they really often sound like they were meant to spell out "that's all folks").

 

Of course, I'll always stay for Williams - and other good scores that are properly featured in the credits. And I'm not generally in a hurry to leave; I like to take in the credits, but if their atmosphere isn't so much one of closure or summing up the film, and more one of "kthxbye", I can take them or leave them.

 

There's a curious dichotomy in how Hollywood credits are handled in recent decades. On the one hand there's often the above mentioned bouncer song, but on the other hand they put post credits scenes even in the most unlikely films for a while to try and keep people there. I say just give me a proper score with a proper credits cue and keep your "funny" scene.

[Taikomochi 1,136]

I stayed through the credits, and a family member who does not like film music commented on how achingly beautiful “Helena’s Theme” is. It reminded me that, at least for Williams scores, it’s worth staying through the credits.

[Bellosh 3,419]

1 hour ago, Brando said:

Jaws has a great end credits scene.

 

you gotta watch it all just to make sure they make it to shore safe! 

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

2 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said:

A friend said the cleaning staff complained about him staying for the credits. When I watched it at the IMAX, my friends and I stayed through the credits, as did a sizeable group a couple of rows in front of us.

 

It seems to be a trend

[mrbellamy 6,287]

I can't hold any grudges against people getting up and chatting over the credits at the movies, it's not obligatory. But that's ridiculous that now ushers are asking people to leave, I've never seen that. 

 

Of course I really hate it at live-to-projection concerts, neanderthal behavior. I would excuse a handful of people exiting quietly under the assumption that they had to catch a train or something, but every one I've been to now, there's always a good chunk of people just getting up and stretching and chatting as they amble out while a world class orchestra plays world class music in front of them, fuck them all. 

[oierem 152]

Can anyone post a breakdown of the OST? I'm still not sure about the music of some of the cues...

[BB-8 3,478]

Even at the Dolby Atmos in Munich they switched the lights back on during the end credit...which is also telling you to leave so they have time to remove all the popcorn and nacho remains from the carpet.

 

P.S. Public littering in cinemas has never been worse...either it's because people behave like at home where mum will eventually clean up or again it's just a consequence of the overall loss of self-control and culture.

[Brando 1,864]

9 hours ago, Bellosh said:

 

you gotta watch it all just to make sure they make it to shore safe! 

Precisely! Then I can fully relax knowing they're safe

[Tydirium 1,167]

3 hours ago, oierem said:

Can anyone post a breakdown of the OST? I'm still not sure about the music of some of the cues...

 

 

[Andy 4,138]

16 hours ago, Brando said:

Jaws has a great end credits scene.

[Martinland 360]

7 hours ago, mrbellamy said:

Of course I really hate it at live-to-projection concerts, neanderthal behavior.

Luckily in Dublin Anthony Gabriele and the orchestra performed Superman with a concert finale (as intended since the world premiere in Switzerland) so this didn't happen.

 

[mrbellamy 6,287]

I wonder if it would make any difference if they just immediately faded out the end credits onscreen and had the orchestra perform alone. Or would those audience members feel even more like "Well, it's over!"

[Datameister 2,044]

Moviegoers leaving during credits: Permissible. (I stay.)

 

Theater staff encouraging moviegoers to leave during credits: Unacceptable.

 

LTP concertgoers leaving while the orchestra is playing: Criminal.

[crocodile 8,017]

3 hours ago, Datameister said:

Moviegoers leaving during credits: Permissible. (I stay.)

 

Theater staff encouraging moviegoers to leave during credits: Unacceptable.

 

LTP concertgoers leaving while the orchestra is playing: Criminal.

Amen. 

 

Karol

[Brando 1,864]

5 hours ago, Andy said:

In my head-Canon Pippet makes a run for it before the owner notices since dogs have the sense to do so!

[Jilal 569]

On 07/07/2023 at 6:12 PM, Datameister said:

LTP concertgoers leaving while the orchestra is playing: Criminal.

 

Is this actually a thing?

[Datameister 2,044]

5 minutes ago, Jilal said:

 

Is this actually a thing?

 

Apparently! I've only ever been to one of these, and I don't remember people leaving, though there was more chatter than I would have liked.

[Chen G. 3,949]

On 06/07/2023 at 4:34 PM, Luke Skywalker said:

Should we call it the j”umping from a plane” motif-theme? 😄

 

Welcome to the wonderful world of motif-naming! We will file your suggestion next to "Siegfried's desire to see new rivers."

[Alex Shore 83]

"Pulse of the City"

Written by William Ross

 

What piece is that? Where is located in the film?

[Demodex 557]

Can someone break down what is on film during the pieces on the OST, please?  

For example I assume Marion's theme during The Perils of the Deep is when Indy tells Helena about his separation from Marion. 

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433]

11 hours ago, Alex Shore said:

"Pulse of the City"

Written by William Ross

 

What piece is that? Where is located in the film?

It's what the band plays when Indy enters the Hotel L'Atlantique

 

[Edit: I actually don't know]

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16 minutes ago, May the Force be with You said:

It's what the band plays when Indy enters the Hotel L'Atlantique

 

Nope, that's pre-existing source music:

 

 

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433]

Oh my bad so do we know what it is?

[JWilliamsFan1999 47]

1 minute ago, May the Force be with You said:

Oh my bad so do we know what it is?

 

Love the picture @May the Force be with You, a pleasure to meet you here. Huge Star Wars, Jurassic Park and Indiana Jones fan from Clovis, California. 

10 hours ago, Demodex said:

Can someone break down what is on film during the pieces on the OST, please?  

For example I assume Marion's theme during The Perils of the Deep is when Indy tells Helena about his separation from Marion. 

 

@Demodex , I totally agree with you, It would be helpful for all of us to see what cues are in order that are in the film as we are watching it so that way we can do an in order playlist of the soundtrack using the cues in the OST of Dial Of Destiny. Great question. 👊 👊 👊 👍 👍

[Jilal 569]

@JWilliamsFan1999

 

 

Welcome to the forum.

[JWilliamsFan1999 47]

4 minutes ago, Jilal said:

@JWilliamsFan1999 The OST is pretty much in chronological order as it is:

 

 

 

 

Thank you so much @Jilal, I really appreciate it very much

5 minutes ago, Jilal said:

@JWilliamsFan1999

 

 

Welcome to the forum.

 

Thanks so much, happy to be here with all of you @Jilal