Disney Emporium releases Indiana Jones: The Complete CD Collection (Expected ship date is March 27, 2024.) No new expansions - Includes the previous Concord Records programmes plus KotCS and DoD OSTs

[GerateWohl 4,370]

The single concord disks are still available for about 10$. So, basically Disney now asks people to pay 110$ for Dial of Destiny. 

And don't mention the wrapping cardboard box. That's worth about 50cts.

[JTN 2,031]

2 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

But why?

Because no one gives a damn about soundtrack CDs, but us, a very small minority. We’re very fortunate that there are specialty labels at all. Disney couldn’t care less about us, all they care about is making money with the least amount of money giving out. They own the rights to the Indiana Jones scores, Laurent Bouzereau has already remastered and expanded the first three scores back in 2008, and Disney is more than happy with them. So they’re releasing that program along with DoD, and in their mind we should even be grateful for it. Btw. some of us are, e.g. me who doesn’t own DoD on CD yet. I wish we had the complete OT (both Indy and SW), but Disney couldn’t care less about what we want, and neither do the readers of Variety or the LA Times. 

4 minutes ago, GerateWohl said:

So, basically Disney now asks people to pay 110$ for Dial of Destiny. 

You forget those who don’t yet own any of the Indy scores and now can purchase all five of them in a box set.

[Jurassic Shark 12,079]

1 hour ago, GerateWohl said:

Question: I know, we have some (filmmusic) journalists on board here. Arendt these terrible release politics of DME worth an article? Or does nobody in your business dare to mess with the Mouse?

 

You'd need a critical journalist for that; one that is interested in writing his own opinions without being afraid of loosing access to people on the "inside".

[Thor 7,513]

I'd do one, but I'm honestly not that invested or interested enough in the issue.

[JTN 2,031]

1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

You'd need a critical journalist for that; one that is interested in writing his own opinions without being afraid of loosing access to people on the "inside".

TownerFan ;-)

[Jurassic Shark 12,079]

5 minutes ago, JTW said:

You forget those who don’t yet own any of the Indy scores and now can purchase all five of them in a box set.

 

But very few of those are interested in buying CDs.

[GerateWohl 4,370]

5 minutes ago, JTW said:

You forget those who don’t yet own any of the Indy scores and now can purchase all five of them in a box set.

No, I didn't forget those. I said, the other 4 disks are still available at amazon for 10$ each for those who are interested. So, if I just want the first four, then I pay 40$. And when I want all five I can pay additional 110$ and get the box.

[JTN 2,031]

1 minute ago, GerateWohl said:

No, I didn't forget those. I said, the other 4 disks are still available at amazon for 10$ each for those who are interested. So, if I just want the first four, then I pay 40$. And when I want all five I can pay additional 110$ and get the box.

Exactly, that’s why Disney is releasing all five in a box set for those who don’t yet have any of the five and now want to get them in a box set. 

[Bespin 8,483]

11 minutes ago, JTW said:

Exactly, that’s why Disney is releasing all five in a box set for those who don’t yet have any of the five and now want to get them in a box set. 

 

Disney seems to have obtained rights from Concord (Universal) for this previously released material and is now issuing it for the first time under their own label—a practice known as "catalog acquisition and reissuing."

 

I wouldn't be surprised if they do the same in the near future with the Star Wars Special Editions...

[Jurassic Shark 12,079]

We know that, Bes.

[GerateWohl 4,370]

2 minutes ago, JTW said:

Exactly, that’s why Disney is releasing all five in a box set for those who don’t yet have any of the five and now want to get them in a box set. 

Right. No contradiction to what I said. Still my point is valid. The monetary difference between buying just the first four and all five is 110$. Makes 110$ for disk no. 5.

[JTN 2,031]

I’m not half as pissed as if Disney had re-released another Star Wars SE box set with the same program. Star Wars is the Holy Grail (pun intended).

[Tydirium 1,167]

Does anyone think these Disney Records versions of the first four OSTs will be made available individually? I just can’t help but wonder if this is all somehow connected to the listings of the individual releases that were supposed to come out this month.

[Jay 37,369]

1 hour ago, Bespin said:

In fact, Disney appears to have acquired the rights from Concord (Universal) for this previously released material. Consequently, they are now releasing this material for the first time under their own label.

 

The process of acquiring previously released music rights from another entity and subsequently releasing it under one's own label is commonly referred to as "catalog acquisition and reissue."

 

Disney didn't acquire them from Concord; Concord had a temporary license to release the music, that they licensed from Lucasfilm, which expired a few years ago.  So the rights reverted to Lucasfilm, which is now owned by Disney.  Since Disney has its own music label, they will now and forever release music from these scores themselves instead of giving temporary music contracts to other labels again.

 

The same thing happened recently with Sony Music's temporary's contracts with The Sound of Music, the first six Star Wars scores, and Star Trek The Motion Picture, which all expired and are now controlled by their original film companies, all of which happen to own their own music labels.

 

1 hour ago, Tydirium said:

Does anyone think these Disney Records versions of the first four OSTs will be made available individually?

 

They were released in Japan on November 3rd.

 

I do think it is possible that they will show up on Disney Emporium as separate releases too, perhaps if the box doesn't sell as well as they hoepd and they have extra stock.

[Bespin 8,483]

Using the expansion works done by Lucasfilm Concord might appear as an effortless approach. However, it is a straightforward way to generate revenue.

[Jay 37,369]

Yeah, Concord doesn't own those programs, Lucasfilm does.  Concord just had an exclusive license to sell them,which now expired.

[Tydirium 1,167]

19 minutes ago, Jay said:

They were released in Japan on November 3rd.

 

That was the supposed release date, but it seems like they are backordered/there’s no more info on them. No art or anything.

[JTN 2,031]

9 minutes ago, Bespin said:

I wouldn't be surprised if they do the same in the near future with the Star Wars Special Editions (SE)...

 

[Bespin 8,483]

11 minutes ago, JTW said:

 

 

Yes, and without even correcting the EQ of ROTJ.

[JTN 2,031]

3 minutes ago, Bespin said:

It seems somewhat lazy to simply reuse the expansion works done by Concord.

And it’s convenient and cheap. They don’t give a sith about expansions. 

[Jay 37,369]

Disney posted larger versions of the two images on their website, on Facebook.

 

 

 

Source: https://www.facebook.com/DisneyMusicEmporium/posts/pfbid02Nin6DGBnohPj9sUTGZNzu89ty4F2542B6Q466j7NRFVybrWoibJSkPZB6WJ6GHTEl

[Bellosh 3,419]

The Instagram comments are relatively positive. I feel like I'm in bizarro world.

 

Do people know these aren't complete?  That Disney could have just put a little effort to completely expand these.

[Mr. Hooper 1,793]

7 minutes ago, JTW said:

They don’t give a sith about expansions. 

Disney can probably see the value in expanded scores and their potential to generate revenue, but since Indy and Star Wars have already gone through expansions, they don't see the value in starting from scratch again.

 

The fact that the current expansions are considered imperfect by a group of soundtrack enthusiasts is probably known to Disney, but it's just not high on their priority list to satisfy this small niche. The fact is that the current state of the scores is considered good enough for the vast majority of consumers, both current and future.

 

It'll take a specialty label and a Mike Matessino to persistently knock at Disney's door and convince them that it's worth releasing something more.

[Brando 1,864]

14 minutes ago, Bellosh said:

The Instagram comments are relatively positive. I feel like I'm in bizarro world.

 

Do people know these aren't complete?  That Disney could have just put a little effort to completely expand these.

I'm doing my best to let the people know

[Jurassic Shark 12,079]

4 hours ago, LB Makes Stuff said:

Definitely can’t justify the $30 per disc then. $10 per CD at most since this is jewel case.

 

You think it could have been justified if they were digipaks?

[Chewy 2,391]

36 minutes ago, Brando said:

I'm doing my best to let the people know

 

We might also be able to write reviews directly on the page:

 

 

Maybe that's another good way to show people this is just a lazy reissue.

[Brando 1,864]

I saw that too, wonder why they let that stay up even though the product hasn't been released. It could work.

[crocodile 8,017]

1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

But why?

 

 

Link, please.

Regular UK releases are jewel cases. Always have been.

 

Karol

[Edmilson 7,466]

47 minutes ago, Mr. Hooper said:

he fact that the current expansions are considered imperfect by a group of soundtrack enthusiasts is probably known to Disney, but it's just not high on their priority list to satisfy this small niche.

They probably know as well that the current expansions being imperfect is not a consensus even within the already tiny group of soundtrack enthusiasts. Some fans are just perfectly happy with what we get and don't want even a second more of music.

 

To put this in geopolitcal terms, it would be kinda like the goverment of the United States not wanting to worry about a civil war in a minuscule country with less than 50,000 inhabitants located in whatever corner of the world.

[phbart 609]

DoD... Disney of Doom!!

[Jurassic Shark 12,079]

3 minutes ago, crocodile said:

Regular UK releases are jewel cases. Always have been.

 

Karol

 

Beautiful. 

[Mr. Hooper 1,793]

8 minutes ago, Chewy said:

We might also be able to write reviews directly on the page

 

Maybe that's another good way to show people this is just a lazy reissue.

To the pre-order page everyone!!

 

 

 

[Andy 4,138]

2 hours ago, Bellosh said:

The Instagram comments are relatively positive. I feel like I'm in bizarro world.

 

Do people know these aren't complete?  That Disney could have just put a little effort to completely expand these.

The Indiana Jones collectors on the FB Group told me I was being toxic and negative by pointing out the shortcomings of this release.   People simply do Not care.  In fact, they’re probably pissed it’s CD format and not vinyl.   Bizarro World, @Bellosh? You betcha. We’ve been in it since vinyl came back. 

[Taikomochi 1,136]

I might have actually bought this set if it was vinyl. At least it would be something different

[crumbs 14,317]

2 hours ago, Taikomochi said:

I might have actually bought this set if it was vinyl. At least it would be something different

 

Bet they can't put these on vinyl because the masters are locked at some ancient resolution, probably CD. They couldn't even transfer the tapes at the right speed in 2008, I doubt they understood high resolution audio. 

 

Never fear though, the next step will be reverting all the way back to rebuilds of the original album masters and releasing those in a $300 vinyl collection. 

 

Then they'll dump the OST remasters on CD in a $400 box set, incorrectly downmixed from LCR to stereo.

[Mr. Hooper 1,793]

24 minutes ago, Andy said:

The Indiana Jones collectors on the FB Group told me I was being toxic and negative by pointing out the shortcomings of this release.

Maybe they're paid Disney shills, like the ones saying how great their awful movies are in YouTube comments sections.

 

"Toxic and negative" for pointing out it could be better... 😂 That's the climate we're living in folks...

[Nemesis 245]

I would love to have the cds in jewel case but 150$ is too much. And no speed correction on ToD. Pass....

[A. A. Ron 1,742]

8 hours ago, Bespin said:

I think it's for Donut of Deception.

 

I'd watch it.

 

[Arpy 4,145]

In today's corporate-driven era of content creation, the marketability and ease of throwing content out to make an abundance of paraphernalia and memorabilia, it baffles me that these corporate giants can't or won't go the extra mile to actually give people (who I should add are willing to pay whatever) what they want and produce actual expansions. What are they worried about? Clearly they don't care that collectors already have this material...

 

In short, Disney should use its capitalistic might and go all-out - actual gold leaf embossed covers, the finest cotton papers in the booklets, posters, collectors cards, every second of recorded music and even the recordings of people still mic'd up when they're taking a shit - EVERYTHING! 

[Mr. Hooper 1,793]

22 minutes ago, Arpy said:

In short, Disney should use its capitalistic might and go all-out - actual gold leaf embossed covers, the finest cotton papers in the booklets, posters, collectors cards, every second of recorded music and even the recordings of people still mic'd up when they're taking a shit - EVERYTHING!

 

And if we're talking about Star Wars...since the fandom is sliding into apathy, giving us the soundtrack collection we've been clamouring for might get some goodwill going. "Hey, look! Disney's done something right!"

[ajc384 144]

Bravo Disney, Bravo!

 

How utterly, predictably depressing!  A lazy, minimal effort reissue but the price!  Oh, my god; the price!

$150 is totally insane for five single CDs!  Who amongst the "likes the occasional film tune but isn't a score-obsessed fan and couldn't name a soundtrack speciality label if their life depended on it" public are really going to spend that sort of money?

 

I own both the Concord box and the DoD CD so most definitely won't be throwing any money Disney's way.

 

Besides: considering the shameful debacles over both the DoD CD and vinyl, I predict this'll be another long-running joke of slipping release dates and delayed printings.

 

Such a shame...

[DarthDeckardJones 13]

This release is awful. At this point I would have preferred the original album releases of the first three so it would at least be a consistent presentation of all five original soundtrack releases using the original album masters. The Concord releases are just a mess. Had they been mixed properly it wouldn't be a big deal. I spent a lot of time fixing pitch on Temple and Crusade back in 2008 and the results worked out pretty well. (Thanks in big part to the information provided on this site.) I didn't bother with Raiders much as I had the DCC release. 

 

This may sound crazy (ok it is) but chances are Disney hasn't mastered these discs yet. I wonder if there is a way to get the pitch corrected before they are done. If I can do it, a total novice, a professional could do it in a day at most. Our hero Mike Matessino has a relationship with Disney. They are about to releases his comprehensive work for the Sound of Music and that is owned by them. (Maybe it was inked before they bought Fox?) Disney can be reasoned with. I imagine someone here knows him well enough to inquire about this situation and ask if he has the ability to contact whoever is in charge and see if he could step in for a day to correct the pitch before they go to print. (I know it is crazy and I am sure there is a bunch of legal junk that makes that impossible. Matessino also probably has better things to do. One can dream though. LOL)

[crumbs 14,317]

I submitted a review but it needs to be vetted before being posted, so review bombing isn't an option. 

 

 

[Mr. Hooper 1,793]

51 minutes ago, crumbs said:

I submitted a review but it needs to be vetted before being posted, so review bombing isn't an option.

Nothing's gonna get past this guy.

 

[Amer 2,110]

Basically as in STAR WARS this is is just a cataloging of ownership of the INDIANA JONES music catalogue. Once these are housed and branded they are now officially under the Disney house. So thats why its a straight forward reissue.

 

I was expecting this when DIAL OF DESTINY came out but we were all so taken up by its limited release that we didn't ponder enough on this possibility..until now!

 

This was expected to happen. Nothing new here.

[Manakin Skywalker 4,897]

The more I think about it, the more this feels like a straight-up scam.

 

The use of the word "complete" feels so intentional... they knew that ill-informed people would see that title and just blind buy it. 

 

And that price. $30 per disc. Holy shit! There's no way they're not screwing with us at this point. After the DoD debacle and people not receiving their copies for months, I don't know how anyone can trust DME anymore. I'm willing to bet the majority of people who are going to purchase this set are just scalpers looking to resell them on Ebay/Discogs.

[Holko 9,529]

18 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said:

The more I think about it, the more this feels like a straight-up scam.

Even the render looks so bad and cheap.

[MedigoScan 324]

The mouse is greed embodied of course.

No surprises here.

[Richard Penna 3,694]

I think there's a market for this but it's obviously not us. I'm thinking more casual soundtrack/Indy fans who perhaps just buy the occasional soundtrack and for whom this might be a gift. It's horrendously priced of course but Concord's set came out 15 years ago and new Indy/music fans pop up all the time.

 

The only hope that we can perhaps glean is if MM by some miracle persuaded Disney to invest in proper expansions and they've done this set in-house as a mass market equivalent.

 

One further point - yes Bouzereau made some amateurish mistakes with pitch, and of course there's quite a bit of missing music - both of which were regrettable and need to be fixed in a future edition. But here's the thing - almost no one outside of our community notices or cares (basically, the average, non-geeky consumer). I've personally never really noticed the pitch problems because I haven't seen any of the films in years and don't do endless comparisons (I'm not on some high horse - I compare some other films and score presentations to death, just not these ones).

 

I was talking about the two editions of the FotR score to an acquaintance a few years ago (they said their other half wanted the soundtrack for Christmas) and they just about stayed with me when I was explaining about 'a CD of highlights' vs 'everything recorded for the film'. Had I started going on about a theoretical scenario where the master tapes were transferred badly and that some tracks were at a slightly wrong pitch.... straight over their head.

[Brónach 1,302]

13 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

But very few of those are interested in buying CDs.

 

i am interested in the missing CD as well.

 

i am also interested in CDs with a normal price.

 

ok i'm a picky buyer, i suppose.