Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny - Isolated Score Track

[GerateWohl 4,370]

43 minutes ago, Brónach said:

 they could sell scores in DVD...

For Lord of the Rings they did. Or didn't the expansion contain an audio only DVD?

[Jay 37,369]

The initial pressings of the "Complete Recordings" releases contained the same musical program as the CDs on a bonus DVD-Audio disc in higher resolution & surround sound.  Note that these were specifically the "DVD-Audio" format, meaning they wouldn't play in a standard DVD player.

 

The reissues from 2018 replaced that DVD-Audio disc with a Blu Ray disc containing the same music in the same resolution instead.  These discs do play in a standard Blu Ray player

[Brónach 1,302]

we could have that but for everything. less discs too.

[ThePenitentMan1 744]

14 hours ago, Brónach said:

 they could sell scores in DVD...

 

But then they'd get outsold by CDs!

[Damien F 1,742]

Every time I see that this thread has a new update, I'm terrified that it'll be news that the isolated score has been removed from the release.

[Faleel 5,353]

The isolated score has been removed from the release.

[Jurassic Shark 12,079]

And on the request of Rian Johnson, no less.

[Faleel 5,353]

[Chewy 2,391]

The Blu-Ray back cover has been updated:

 

[Faleel 5,353]

1 hour ago, Chewy said:

The Blu-Ray back cover has been updated:

 

[mrbellamy 6,287]

It'll be like Steven Soderbergh's version of Raiders - all black-and-white with The Social Network score 

[LB Makes Stuff 240]

Please no, I hate that edit so much.

[ChrisAfonso 186]

On 06/11/2023 at 8:37 PM, Jay said:

The initial pressings of the "Complete Recordings" releases contained the same musical program as the CDs on a bonus DVD-Audio disc in higher resolution & surround sound.  Note that these were specifically the "DVD-Audio" format, meaning they wouldn't play in a standard DVD player.

(...)

 

Unless there were multiple versions back when they came out, I believe that's inaccurate - they're normal DVDs (the 3rd one double-sided) with stereo and 5.1 audio tracks, and animated menus showing arted-up images from the corresponding scenes during playback.

[Jay 37,369]

You're right, thank you!

 

I remember now - it had Stereo and 5.1 in lossy Dolby Digital on a DVD-Video layer (that would play in a standard DVD player), but 24bit/48khz uncompressed audio only on a DVD-Audio layer, so required a DVD-Audio player to hear. 

 

The 2018 Blu Ray disc can play lossless audio in anyone's standard Blu Ray player.

[Tom 4,661]

Just listened.  This truly is a magnificent score.  I must confess that I only saw the movie once, so this was revelatory. Both the extra action music as well as some of the quieter stuff really add to things. 

 

If this is his final film bow, then it is a fitting way to close things out (musically anyway--would have been nice to have a BO smash).  It might rival TFA as a perfect blend of vintage and new Williams.  

[JWFan Moderators 100]

Posts have been edited or deleted  due to a major rule violation:

 

On 30/04/2021 at 5:04 PM, JWFan Moderators said:

The following types of posts are not allowed:

•  Links to download copyrighted material -- This includes requests for links as well.

 

The isolated score track can be discussed before its release date, but any discussion around how to get it illegally will be deleted and the user banned. 

[LB Makes Stuff 240]

Uh oh, some one did something bad

[Richard Penna 3,694]

Might be slightly confused about the rules, but is this to do with a reddit link that someone posted yesterday? Is the problem that it was linking directly to downloadable files (but still hosted elsewhere), instead of a YouTube link? (given that you can't download from YT without.... extra steps). Just curious.

[Marian Schedenig 8,200]

I believe this thread should be retitled "Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny Blu-ray Isolated Score Track".

[filmmusic 1,829]

So, I listened to the isolated score, but didn't change my mind about it. 

I found nothing to make me want to listen to it again (or the ost - although I bought that to have it in my collection), apart from Helena's theme, which anyway doesn't fit the character at all, but it's a nice composition on its own.

[1977 1,743]

16 hours ago, Richard Penna said:

Might be slightly confused about the rules, but is this to do with a reddit link that someone posted yesterday? Is the problem that it was linking directly to downloadable files (but still hosted elsewhere), instead of a YouTube link? (given that you can't download from YT without.... extra steps). Just curious.

 

I've never understood why YT embeds (for audio not directly uploaded by the content owners) are allowed either.

[Taikomochi 1,136]

Listening to cues like the second Tuk Tuk cue make me really appreciate the effort Williams put into using quotes in the sequel trilogy scores, like the beautiful transition to Yoda’s theme at the end of “The Sacred Jedi Texts”.  There is an artistry to how these quotes are integrated that I don’t think I fully appreciated until I heard them done poorly. It’s so awkward and sloppy in DoD, downright schizophrenic.
 

I was scratching my head wondering why when people were complaining about the Tuk Tuk second half being missing. It sounded choppy as hell in the theater, and now the isolated score has confirmed that. I mean, I want all the unreleased music I can get, but that’s not one that would be at the top of my list.

[Archive Collection 214]

Listening to the "Airplane Mutiny" cue, I noticed that it has the bassline from William Ross's "Pulse of the City", but also some hints of Williams's Voller Theme.

 

So who wrote it? Let the speculation begin...

[Tydirium 1,167]

Yeah, I’m kind of starting to doubt the “official story” that Ross only did the one cue.

[Taikomochi 1,136]

My thinking is the quieter parts were Williams and Ross just adapted in a few bars of Pulse of the City for the action-y bit so it could technically remain a Williams cue.

[Cameron1138 33]

21 hours ago, Richard Penna said:

Might be slightly confused about the rules, but is this to do with a reddit link that someone posted yesterday? Is the problem that it was linking directly to downloadable files (but still hosted elsewhere), instead of a YouTube link? (given that you can't download from YT without.... extra steps). Just curious.

Probably, I didn't realize linking to a post that only indirectly had a download link would still be against the rules.

[scallenger 483]

Is it wrong that Pulse Of The City is one of my favorite cues of the entire score?

[Taikomochi 1,136]

Yes it is objectively wrong 

[Richard Penna 3,694]

1 hour ago, Tydirium said:

Yeah, I’m kind of starting to doubt the “official story” that Ross only did the one cue.

 

The official story doesn't make any definitive judgement on how many cues he ultimately composed or helped with. I don't think there's anything to 'doubt'.

[Tydirium 1,167]

8 minutes ago, Richard Penna said:

 

The official story doesn't make any definitive judgement on how many cues he ultimately composed or helped with. I don't think there's anything to 'doubt'.

 

The LA Times article says “In the end, abetted by a prolonged postproduction schedule, Williams scored the entire picture himself.” Which certainly makes it sound like he… scored the entire film himself. Then again, that statement kind of contradicts/leaves out what we know about Ross’ “Pulse of the City” cue, so perhaps that should be taken with a grain of salt.

[King Mark 3,631]

yeah but Ross has a composing credit in the film for that cue

[Tydirium 1,167]

I know, that’s what I pointed out at the end of my comment. That actually on second thought, Ross doing that cue kind of flies in the face of that statement in the article; the “Williams scored the entire picture himself” is a bit misleading.

[Richard Penna 3,694]

You're reading way too much into that article. I'd put as much faith in it (as a reliable indicator of who wrote what in the film) as that 'Williams wrote 40 minutes for CoS' rubbish which was just out of date, ill informed, or both.

[Taikomochi 1,136]

It’s pretty clear that was PR speak that didn’t really mean anything

[Damien F 1,742]

My opinion is that JW wrote all original cues heard in the film except Pulse of the City. Reuse of music from previous scores was adapted by JW and Ross, with Ross probably doing a majority of that work.

[TolkienSS 407]

22 hours ago, filmmusic said:

So, I listened to the isolated score, but didn't change my mind about it. 

I found nothing to make me want to listen to it again (or the ost - although I bought that to have it in my collection), apart from Helena's theme, which anyway doesn't fit the character at all, but it's a nice composition on its own.

 

2 hours ago, Archive Collection said:

Listening to the "Airplane Mutiny" cue, I noticed that it has the bassline from William Ross's "Pulse of the City", but also some hints of Williams's Voller Theme.

 

So who wrote it? Let the speculation begin...

 

2 hours ago, Tydirium said:

Yeah, I’m kind of starting to doubt the “official story” that Ross only did the one cue.

 

9 minutes ago, Damien F said:

My opinion is that JW wrote all original cues heard in the film except Pulse of the City. Reuse of music from previous scores was adapted by JW and Ross, with Ross probably doing a majority of that work.

 

Really.

 

Had I posted that, waves of anger would have followed.

 

Let me restate my opinion again: JW did 3/4 of the film score max.

[Tydirium 1,167]

41 minutes ago, Richard Penna said:

You're reading way too much into that article. I'd put as much faith in it (as a reliable indicator of who wrote what in the film) as that 'Williams wrote 40 minutes for CoS' rubbish which was just out of date, ill informed, or both.

I normally don’t put much faith in articles like this; the only reason I did was because it’s by the author of the forthcoming Williams biography.

[King Mark 3,631]

Who cares . Movie and OST says Music By John Williams and no mention of Ross except for Pulse of the City. It's like wondering which parts of TESB were composed by Herbert Spencer

[Tydirium 1,167]

I don’t really care…? It doesn’t bother me one way or another who did what. I’m a little confused by your comment.

[filmmusic 1,829]

1 hour ago, TolkienSS said:

Had I posted that, waves of anger would have followed.

I would hope everyone is entitled to his opinion here, without being bullied.

[HunterTech 994]

1 hour ago, TolkienSS said:

Let me restate my opinion again: JW did 3/4 of the film score max.

 

Which by RCP rules means that he deserves that sole credit 

[Tydirium 1,167]

1 hour ago, TolkienSS said:

Really.

 

Had I posted that, waves of anger would have followed.

 

Let me restate my opinion again: JW did 3/4 of the film score max.

 

Why do you feel that way? I don’t see anything wrong with that opinion.

[Taikomochi 1,136]

Because they called the score a blemish on Williams’ career, insinuating Williams was too old and should already have retired, and got called out for making hyperbolic statements. They are now trying to equate that to actual criticism of the score in this thread lol

[Tydirium 1,167]

9 minutes ago, Taikomochi said:

Because they called the score a blemish on Williams’ career, insinuating Williams was too old and should already retired, and got called out for making hyperbolic statements. They are now trying to equate that to actual criticism of the score in this thread lol

 

Oh lol, I didn’t see that.

[Tom 4,661]

The vast majority of quotes are in the first half the score (mostly prologue and Tuk Tuk).  If they somehow ruin your experience, then just listen to the second half of the score. 

[Bellosh 3,419]

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[John F 100]

After listening to the isolated score I can’t believe they did not put the Battle of Syracuse film version on the soundtrack. Man what an amazing cue… probably one of my top ten Favorite Williams cues. Also the “Prologue” film version action cues could have really made for a powerhouse action opening to the soundtrack too instead of the slower cue they opted to go with. And it had nothing to do with the scene. Smh.

[Manakin Skywalker 4,897]

7 hours ago, TolkienSS said:

Really.

 

Had I posted that, waves of anger would have followed.

 

Let me restate my opinion again: JW did 3/4 of the film score max.

 

See the difference with the other comments is they clarify that they're stating their personal opinions, and not being cocky about it.

 

filmmusic said he didn't particularly love the score.

Archive Collection is speculating that perhaps Bill Ross had more input than originally thought.

Tydirium is thinking the same thing.

Damien F shared his personal opinion on how the situation could've possibly gone.

 

The difference with you is that you often state your opinion as though it's an objective fact, with the tone that everyone who disagrees with you is wrong and stupid.

 

No one would show "waves of anger" toward you if you just shared your opinion and treated it as such... and perhaps toned down the melodramatics.

[Tom 4,661]

34 minutes ago, John F said:

After listening to the isolated score I can’t believe they did not put the Battle of Syracuse film version on the soundtrack. Man what an amazing cue… probably one of my top ten Favorite Williams cues. Also the “Prologue” film version action cues could have really made for a powerhouse action opening to the soundtrack too instead of the slower cue they opted to go with. And it had nothing to do with the scene. Smh.

Yes, the whole 20 minute cue is pure Williams's brilliance.  

[Alex 2,835]

The arrangements are just different enough in the second part of the Tuk Tuk chase for me to really enjoy it.