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Our artistic elite are not comfortable with people making money from their art. Unlike Mozart, Haydn, and Tchaikovsky, who I hear worked pro bono composing music for the poor, the syphilitic, and the damned. Such was the wondrous life and art of true artists in the old country...

There's nothing random about the action music in TFA.

The Falcon chase music is very melodic in its way and my favorite action scoring of that film.

Sounds like a real challenge to use only 1 or 2 notes. Oh, wait, Williams already did that in 1975!

His Batman "theme" had 2 notes and Joker "theme" had 1 note (and I am using the term "theme" rather broadly here). His Han theme will go one step further and have no notes at all, or maybe even negative number of notes!

Zimmer will write a mighty, testosterone driven theme!

Not sure what you consider a "notorious score" or a "classic," but here are the Goldsmith scores by decade which I am still most looking forward to, in terms of definitive editions: 50s: Black Patch, Face of a Fugitive -- both excellent western scores, completely unreleased, which appear to be lost and would therefore require new recordings; here are complete score breakdowns I did for each, with accompanying YouTube videos which should convince any Goldsmith fan they're worth doing: http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=119663&forumID=1&archive=0 http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=113490&forumID=1&archive=0 60s: Freud -- Varese DE still missing a few bits, needs the Papillon treatment The General With the Cockeyed Id -- excellent short score only available on a footwarmer; should receive a legit issue/restoration: In Harm's Way -- Intrada "unlimited" title just went out of print...hopefully they or someone else found a source for the complete score, at last? Our Man Flint/In Like Flint -- Varese has perpetuity rights and would have to produce Deluxe Editions for each, the Twilight Time isolated tracks are nice stopgap to have but contain microedits and not every cue recorded Planet of the Apes -- Varese complete edition had inferior sound to previous Intrada edition; this deserves a modern complete Michael Mattesino facelift The Chairman -- most urgently needed score of the decade for me, an amazing work which should get a complete re-recording if tapes of the original are confirmed lost 70s: Crawlspace -- an overlooked GEM of a score; I did a complete breakdown here with YouTube of the film included: http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=116952&forumID=1&archive=0 The Other -- one of Goldsmith's best scores of the decade, sadly controlled by Varese in perpetuity due to the 1-track suite they released in the 90s; fortunately included in extended form as an isolated score track on Twilight Time Blu-ray but once again, that contained microedits and missed some music that was even in the Varese suite The Man -- a film about the (fictional, played by James Earl Jones) first black president of the United States, with a sparsely spotted but excellent score, broken down here with full YouTube video: http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=113568&archive=0 Pursuit -- excellent "mod" score, apparently lost to time and therefore in need of a new recording unless the tapes are discovered. Complete breakdown: http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=117275&forumID=1&archive=0 Shamus -- similar to Pursuit; I haven't done a breakdown yet S*P*Y*S -- this one certainly qualifies as "notorious" and to be honest it's so zany I love it in spite of its reputation as one of the composer's worst A Tree Grows in Brooklyn -- GORGEOUS score, like S*P*Y*S released only in part on Varese Goldsmith box Ransom -- His first primarily action score, and unfortunately worst sounding LP album. Would probably require a full new recording as the original sessions seem to be lost. The Reincarnation of Peter Proud -- deserves a good sounding legit release Damnation Alley -- a third of this fantastically exciting score is unreleased due to missing synth elements. Read a complete breakdown and listen to an excellent YouTube suite culled from the missing cues here: http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=117082&forumID=1&archive=0 MacArthur -- One of Goldsmith's most well-known marches, the complete score has never been released (and the LP may have even been a re-recording) The Swarm -- LLL is currently working on a definitive two disc edition 80s: The Final Conflict -- Surely Varese will get around to a 40th Anniversary complete edition of this in a few more years, since they did The Omen just this past year The Secret of NIMH -- A complete release is sadly impossible unless a source is uncovered. Under Fire -- Ditto. Link -- Despite the existence of the complete score on a footwarmer, a complete legit issue is unlikely until a better source for the unreleased material can be found. Legend -- See Link. The Lonely Guy -- A wonderful overlooked gem; not at all limited to just synthy comedy -- lots of exciting music here to be heard. The only remaining Goldsmith score released on LP (three tracks by him) but never CD. Supergirl -- While released "complete" before, still deserves a definitive Poltergeist/Papillon treatment. Lionheart -- Deserves a remastered Varese Deluxe Edition on CD, in chronological order with duplicate cue removed. Leviathan -- Better than its reputation would suggest. DeputyRiley did a complete score breakdown here: http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=110196&forumID=1&archive=0 90s/2000s: Way too many goodies that Varese controls in perpetuity (Air Force One, Small Soldiers, Medicine Man, Mom and Dad Save the World...), plus The Russia House -- only 6-7 minutes missing but they would improve the flow of the score by offering some contrast: http://www.runmovies.eu/?p=7846 Mulan -- Now that the Disney Legacy Collection is back maybe we'll see this in the next year. The Mummy -- Kinda shocked no one's done this yet since it's so popular; maybe a hold-up because of the new Mummy film? The Last Castle -- This one would really shine better in complete form, with stronger film versions for a couple cues. In any case you can see there are still plenty of Goldsmith goodies (including from the 70s and 80s) which we are still waiting on. And this was not an exhaustive list -- I left off some unreleased film scores I don't like much (ie. Take Her, She's Mine, The Don Is Dead, Do Not Fold, Spindle, or Mutilate...) and TV series I do like (The Waltons, Barnaby Jones...hey we're getting a Vol. 2 of Thriller!) Yavar

I was never too sure I was gonna be able to go to this because it's a 3.5 hour drive to Indianapolis and I work weekends but fuck it... It was so much fun. Will report more later. I got a shit ton of video!

Thanks a lot. Now every time I hum or whistle the Ark theme, I can't help but think of those lyrics.

1) Don't let negativity bother you, or you will have a short lifespan on JWFan and the internet in general. 2) Why do themes and orchestral complexity automatically make a score good? Bad music is bad music, whatever clothes it's wearing.

The Man Who Haunted Himself - 70s psychological thriller starring a post-Saint pre-Bond Roger Moore, who after recovering from a life-saving operation after a car accident finds his life dogged by incidents and meetings with people that he absolutely doesn't recall being there for ... does he have a doppelganger, or is he losing his mind? Intriguing and winningly weird, and one to sit people who insist that Moore wasn't much of an actor down in front of ... he's very good indeed in this.

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So on November 16 Close Encounters will be 40 years old, do you guys think we will get it complete? I have the Original Vinyl Pressing, The Expanded edition from 97 I believe, I also got the SACD from 2015. If anything this is a job for La La Land or Intrada. Do you guys think it's time for the complete release? Does anybody have any news on it maybe coming out? Anything?

This made the rounds yesterday in case some did not see: A few short interviews with John Williams😃

Thanks Woj -- I had no idea you coined the term, but I'd seen it bandied about the FSM forum as a euphemism for years now, so congrats on its industry penetration! It's cuter than saying "unmentionable"... Thanks, Brundlefly! Yeah, here's the full long list of still-unexpanded-on-CD Goldsmith titles that Varese controls in perpetuity, due to their releases in the 90s (in addition they also would be the only ones who could ever offer Encore reissues of other titles they've put out popular complete editions for, like The 'Burbs): Our Man Flint (1966) -- so much great stuff only available on Twilight Time iso score In Like Flint (1967) -- ditto, though I like this sequel score a bit less The Other (1972) -- ditto; such a shame for such an incredible score The Final Conflict (1981) -- well, this was expanded but still missing a handful of cues Love Field (1991) -- missing a key highlight cue and possibly more: http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=114459&forumID=1&archive=0 Mom and Dad Save the World (1991) -- missing a lot of fun stuff Medicine Man (1992) -- want every note! http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=109823&forumID=1&archive=0 Mr. Baseball (1992) -- I may be one of the few people who'd buy an expanded edition. Malice (1993) -- lower priority, not missing much: http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=110814&forumID=1&archive=0 Matinee (1993) -- wonderful Dante score, missing a lot Rudy (1993) -- there's a DVD isolated score track (in compressed sound), but would great to have an official complete CD release Angie (1994) -- not sure what might be missing; sometime I'll watch the film and investigate City Hall (1996) -- underrated! missing 12 minutes: http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=110759&forumID=1&archive=0 Air Force One (1997) -- despite the complete footwarmer (and even one for Randy Newman's underrated unused score), I'd love an official edition L.A. Confidential (1997) -- ditto, and a high profile Oscar-nominated part of Goldsmith's filmography U.S. Marshals (1997) -- over half unreleased: http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=109822&forumID=1&archive=0 Fierce Creatures (1997) -- the existing album is the complete score and then some, but perhaps unreleased alternates? Small Soldiers (1998) -- won a poll I did as most wanted Goldsmith Deluxe Edition: http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?pageID=1&forumID=1&threadID=114138&archive=0 The Haunting (1999) -- so much of this underrated score unreleased, would lead to a complete reassessment by people I think: http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=110033&forumID=1&archive=0 The 13th Warrior (1999) -- all the unreleased stuff (as revealed by footwarmer) is excellent even if the highlights were on original album Hollow Man (2000) -- there was a DVD isolated score track with Goldsmith commentary Along Came a Spider (2001) -- I know some people really love this one and maybe I'd reassess it in complete form Timeline (2003) -- despite the excellent footwarmer I'd love an official release Looney Tunes: Back in Action (2003) -- wonderful final score, but existing album flowed terribly with no climax because Debney's contribution omitted Ones that Varese may control in perpetuity, but may not: Raggedy Man (1981), Criminal Law (1988 -- not sure if existing album is the complete score), and Leviathan (1989 -- it was mid-way through this year that Varese started getting perpetuity rights as a rule, not sure if it was before or after they put out this score), and finally if the unused scores for The Public Eye, Babe, or Wall Street were recorded, Varese might control the rights just because they released the final scores by other composers. Ones that Varese controls and have released "complete" but which still deserve new re-done editions: Planet of the Apes (1968) -- this came out two decades ago and needs the Michael Mattesino treatment now; plus there may be unreleased alternates The Mephisto Waltz (1971) -- "complete" when released with The Other suite, but actually missing some overlays and could use improved sound Lionheart (1987) -- deserves a remastered complete & chronological single disc (unless there are unreleased cues or alternates which could push it to a second) Whew...don't think I missed anything! Yavar

Europe is united...just not with the UK. ...always overdressing for the wrong occasions.

Holodna, hmura, I mrachna v dushe. Kak mog znat’ ya, shto ti umryosh’? Da svidania, bereg radnoy – Kak nam trudna predstavit’, shto eto nye son’. Rodina – dom radnoy, Da svidania, rodina. I v pohod i v pohod nas volna marskaya zdyot nye dazhdyotsya. Nas zavut marksaya dal’ i priboy! Salyut otsam i nashim dedam, Zavyetam ih vsegda verni. Teper’ nishto nye astanovit Pabedniy shag radnoy strain. Ti plivi, plivi besstrashna Gordast’ Severnih Maryey. Revolyutsii nadeshda, sgustok vyeri vseh lyudey. V okytabre, v okyabre, Reportuyem mi nashi pabedi. V okytabre, v okyabre, noviy mir dali nam nashi dedi.

Don't they teach you arithmetic in Petit France? Jaws was 3 notes! You can make anything sound manly with a pair of tubas and a trombone.

That's the second biggest crisis facing America, after the Russian election interference. Good movie themes that go underused in crummy movies.

Star Trek Beyond. Still underwelming. The Yorktown theme is rather good. The problem though is that it really isn't used much at all. Which is quite common nowadays with film music. There are good themes sometimes, that get so underused.

I'm not anti-MG, per se, but I find Desplat's music more interesting to listen to. That won't stop me buying as many MG scores as I possibly can, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah; whatever

Ziacchimmer!!! Zimmerino!!!

When I was a kid and went to bible camp, we were taught to thank the Lord before dinner by singing the Superman Prayer: Thank you Gooooood for giving us foood Thank you Gooooood for giving us foood For the food that we eeeee-eat And the friends that we meeeee-eet Thank you Gooooood for giving us foood There was some choreography too, punching the air with our fists on each line. A family friend taught me one for Mission Impossible: God. is. great and God. is. good and Let. us. thank him For. our. foo-ood Dooooooooooooooo Doo-doo-doooooooo Doo-doo-doooooooo A-men

It is, Lee. It's one of those films that you'll find on Channel 4, at 3:30, on a Saturday afternoon, in between the racing, and some gardening programme, but don't let that fool you. It's a little gem of a movie. Also, check-out Moore's star-turn, in Brian Pern; priceless!

It actually sounds interesting.

Agreed, on all aspects, Sweep! It's Moore's finest hour (although...I have a real soft-spot for GOLD).

I think it's more that the critics here now often come from light music (if at all) and, because of shrinking budgets and lack of interest on reader's part, review Arctic Monkeys albums as well as a new Haydn cycle, the last one being the subject they learn about on Wikipedia. But what for? 90% of recent scores i would review just as a duty, not because it would be much fun.

Yes, the Emperor cloned him from his hand recovered at Cloud City...

We discussed this interview at length back on May the 4th.

If Williams screws up, I'm sure they'll have time to get Giacchino in at the last minute

Joey's theme in the trailer sort of match up with the text ("Faaaaar from home" "Across all boooor rders" "Hope Suuurrrvives"). Also, it reminds me of "It's a Hard-Knock Life" from Annie (maybe that's what they were going for).

I agree that the failure of his marriage was probably the catalyst for his initial breakdown, but I still like the idea that a combination of resentment and deep guilt about Jimmy is what fuelled it in the first place. I'm not sure what the exact timeline is, but I'm under the impression that Chuck's marriage ended around the same time he prevented Howard from promoting Jimmy out of the mail room. It's incredible to see how Chuck and Jimmy have shaped each other and brought the absolute worst out of one another. Their whole arc has the distinct vibe of a Shakespearean tragedy about it.

I am not worried about such things, but I do wonder if it is the best for Williams. Given the other projects he will/would like to work on, dragging out SW an extra 3 months cannot be ideal.

Gosh, it's really just orchestral noise at this point.

Yes, like skyy38 and jwfan2234.

Oh no, I know you'd be far better at it than I would be. No no, I'm in awe of your talent. I am nothing compared to the master.

Lovely video! The only Williams-relevant bits seem to be: 1) A brief quote at around 50 seconds in 2) At 19:20, the long section on "Music for Brass" begins, lasting until around 22:50 I believe that's it.

We got ourselves a Humble Off!! Liked.

Who the heck is Germaine Greer? I shan't google the name. I shan't!

Zimmer is a salesguy, he's not unsympathetic but he talks to an unsophisticated audience, an audience that you can wow with perfumed smokescreens. And since he's german and talked repeatedly about the nuisance of fickle german educational standards and the uncompromising rulebook by which the arts are taught i can absolutely see where he's coming from: finally, in La La Land he was freed of just being a catchy pop guy who noodled on his keyboard but a proper artist who mustn't explain the lack of interest in classical form and musical theory. I am not judging that per se, the medium takes crossover talent like Zimmer better than some mad scale genius incapable of being a team player (essential) but it's clear to me that he knows how to walk the very thin line of being Humble Hans and ennobling himself with lofty fluff that insinuates that a simple ostinato is more than it actually is. And the lack of education in our day and age makes it easy to get away with it: a lot of people actually think Zimmer has Beethoven's abilities. There was a big PR event outside of the O2 arena back in Berlin when he did his concert tour and lo and behold, Zimmer is considered a studied professor who actually writes very heady, complicated stuff. And there were music journalists present, unable to make a distinction between symphonic pop/rock piece (or experimental, what have you) and a Boulez piece. It was truly sickening (not Zimmer's fault, of course, but he knew how to play them).

Even though I enjoyed Jurassic World for what it was, and what it was was 'okay,' but there is some major crap in it. - The whole using the raptors as military weapons is beyond fucking stupid. - The running away from a t-rex in high heels is ridiculous. - The Indominous rex was boringly designed and wasn't scary. - The brutal rated R death of the secretary woman was wayyyy over the line. - The fact that anyone can control a gyro ball on their own with no supervision next to animals that weigh tonnes. And then they can on a whim just drive it out the parks boundaries. Pathetic. - I even saw some idiots kayaking down a river next to drinking Brachiosaurs. They literally can accidentally step on you! They are not something you paddle next to! Stuff like that bothered me. But I can enjoy it as a mindless monster movie.

Here is what has been said by an orchestra member from the sessions: "After 37 film scores he still blows me away!!... always throws something we haven't heard! " Let that be absorbed in good light. December is yet so far away!

'The Art of the Deal' audiobook?

EEEE.TTTT. E.T.-E.T.-EEEE.TTT. Darth Va-Der is a rea-lly bad guy Tiiiin-tintin tiiin-tintin tiiiin-tin-tin-tin-tin-tin-tin-tin Bllis-tering Bar-na-cles, it's Captain Had-dock! Some-where in my meee- wait a minute... Most of this is just our brains filling in lyrics which it knows will fit, but the Superman one must have been intentional. Another (non-Williams) example where it couldn't have been an accident is the '58 Hammer Dracula, where the main theme literally shouts DRAAA-CULAA over and over, in the beginning even fitting the americanized title hor-ror-of-DRAAAA-CULAAAA.

"A.IIIIIII A.IIIIIIII A.I Artficial Intell-i-gence"

She can play under my balcony ...

This is so like Horner though. First Jerry Goldsmith died, now this!