Demodex 557 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 23 hours ago, BB-8 said: Just catching up after Easter and cannot see where the actual trailer with it's trashy music is being discussed. How was it trashy? Who cares about trailer music anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,373 Posted April 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2023 I liked the music in the trailer, fun mashup Brando, Cerebral Cortex, TSMefford and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,482 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 versus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bellosh 3,419 Posted April 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Jay said: Is this a reference to Young Indiana Jones or something? I honestly don't think so. Tangier, May 1908 was added to Chapter 1 ' My First Adventure' on the film versions. So I think it's highly unlikely he's referencing that. The Pancho Villa reference in KOTCS was a bit more on the head. That said, is it possible the script writer confirmed Indy has been to Morocco by cross-referencing the Chronicles...entirely possible. So i guess it technically could be! Something I guess I'll always use when defending the show and accepting it's canon! (cope young indy haters!) I honestly think it's just reminding the audience that Indy may have been there plenty of times in between ToD and DoD. It also kinda reminded me of one my favorite lines from KOTCS, when Mac in the warehouse was saying "you don't know him KNOW HIM!, you don't know him!" as Indy was playing chicken with the jeeps. Just a fantastic way to remind us of how badass Indy will always be. Gabriel Bezerra, Jay, Brando and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2023 Map lines and dots are back on the menu, boys! Also so great to receive confirmation that Indy doesn't stay in the same place the whole movie! Manakin Skywalker, Brando and Yavar Moradi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 i love these map sequences Yavar Moradi and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post toothless 964 Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2023 These sequences are great because the music can be the principal element :p Yavar Moradi, tee_oh, Cerebral Cortex and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brónach 1,302 Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2023 the movie should have no dialogue Cerebral Cortex, Edmilson, Bayesian and 2 others 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,482 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Helena has got an upper-crust British accent that reminds me of Downton Abbey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 they're merely ripping off Tomb Raider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,086 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 18 hours ago, BB-8 said: versus It's sad the studio doesn't dare using JW's own style of music in the new trailer. BB-8 and ThePenitentMan1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,318 Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2023 6 hours ago, Cerebral Cortex said: Map lines and dots are back on the menu, boys! Also so great to receive confirmation that Indy doesn't stay in the same place the whole movie! Indy's theme into Helena's Theme into the Dial theme for one of these map cues, please! Edmilson, Brando, ThePenitentMan1 and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 I wonder what the Dial sounds like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jurassic Shark 12,086 Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2023 43 minutes ago, Brónach said: I wonder what the Dial sounds like. Like destiny. Cerebral Cortex, ThePenitentMan1, Brando and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Only like destiny, and not like doomy doom of doom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,482 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 50 minutes ago, Brónach said: I wonder what the Dial sounds like. Brónach and Brando 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,401 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Brónach said: I wonder what the Dial sounds like. ZZZZZZzzzip! thip thip thip thip thip thip. ZZZZZZzzzip! thip thip. ZZZZZZzzzip! thip thip thip thip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: Like destiny. ... young Skywalker! Oops, wrong franchise. Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Brónach said: I wonder what the Dial sounds like. In all seriousness, the titular Dial theme is probably what I'm most anxious to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 4,670 Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2023 Sneak peek: Amer, Brando and Brónach 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Cerebral Cortex said: In all seriousness, the titular Dial theme is probably what I'm most anxious to hear. if the Dial DOES do the kind of things that's being suggested here and elsewhere i can imagine this sort of bubbling tension for a dial setpiece (at the end??), but not necesarily to punctuate the Dial through the movie. Is it going to be sinister, or beautiful? Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Maybe John won't even write a Dial theme and will just use the clock effect from Azkban over scenes set in the past. Edit: Damn. I scrolled up and see someone already made this joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,670 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 41 minutes ago, A. A. Ron said: Maybe John won't even write a Dial theme and will just use the clock effect from Azkban over scenes set in the past. Edit: Damn. I scrolled up and see someone already made this joke. Maybe he wrote the Dial version first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 1,864 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 It’d be cool if he scored it like he did Winning By A Hair & The End Of Hook with the ticking sound effect coming from the orchestra. I’ve always thought those sections from Hook were so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TolkienSS 407 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Just watched the trailer. Depressing as hell. Here's the Luke Skywalkerization of Indiana Jones. "You made your mistakes". Bah. Another Blockbuster to skip. Toillion, Bounty95, Brando and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Naïve Old Fart 9,552 Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2023 I just hope that none of the music is..."dialed out" Amer, Brónach, Andy and 6 others 3 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 45 minutes ago, TolkienSS said: Just watched the trailer. Depressing as hell. Here's the Luke Skywalkerization of Indiana Jones. "You made your mistakes". Bah. Another Blockbuster to skip. but he... his arcs in the other movies... he bah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,086 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 46 minutes ago, TolkienSS said: Just watched the trailer. Depressing as hell. Here's the Luke Skywalkerization of Indiana Jones. "You made your mistakes". Bah. Another Blockbuster to skip. It's your destiny to watch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DarthDementous 1,059 Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2023 3 hours ago, TolkienSS said: Just watched the trailer. Depressing as hell. Here's the Luke Skywalkerization of Indiana Jones. "You made your mistakes". Bah. Another Blockbuster to skip. As someone that very much does not like what they did with Luke Skywalker, you’re horrifically off the mark here. No one even told Luke in TLJ that he made mistakes, it was himself feeling guilty The world of the 1960s can feel like they don’t need Indiana Jones but Indy doesn’t have to agree, and Mangold has said pretty much verbatim that this movie is about proving that notion wrong Brando, ThePenitentMan1 and enderdrag64 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThePenitentMan1 744 Posted April 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2023 5 hours ago, TolkienSS said: "You made your mistakes". "And now, a final triumph!" Brónach, DarthDementous, Gabriel Bezerra and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DarthDementous 1,059 Posted April 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2023 3 hours ago, ThePenitentMan1 said: "And now, a final triumph!" Methinks he has selective hearing towards things that only affirm what he already believes artguy360, Tallguy and A. A. Ron 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brónach 1,302 Posted April 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2023 11 hours ago, DarthDementous said: The world of the 1960s can feel like they don’t need Indiana Jones but Indy doesn’t have to agree, and Mangold has said pretty much verbatim that this movie is about proving that notion wrong he's experienced with... whatever this movie wants to make him experienced with, that's the point. i've never understood the "he's too old" complaints since 2007... it gets to a point where it actually makes it interesting IN THEORY. You just have to make the movie about it and around it. Like you could play up the noirish elements from Raiders that were probably toned down once they saw they had to shoot the film really really fast. Specially since every entry appears to come from a different tonal reality. The tone is very important in these movies, but more internally that externally following the other ones. Also, he's also an academic. It's funny how this gets memory-holed. Make him effing weird in old age. DarthDementous, ThePenitentMan1, enderdrag64 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted April 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2023 Brónach, Brando, Andy and 4 others 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,371 Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 44 minutes ago, Brónach said: he's experienced with... whatever this movie wants to make him experienced with, that's the point. i've never understood the "he's too old" complaints since 2007... it gets to a point where it actually makes it interesting IN THEORY. You just have to make the movie about it and around it. Like you could play up the noirish elements from Raiders that were probably toned down once they saw they had to shoot the film really really fast. Specially since every entry appears to come from a different tonal reality. The tone is very important in these movies, but more internally that externally following the other ones. Also, he's also an academic. It's funny how this gets memory-holed. Make him effing weird in old age. In the 50s and 60s the invented superheroes as overpowered super being. who were able to fight for hours with super strenght. In the 80s there came these muscle men like Sly and Arnie who hat this super punch. When these men grew old, they overpowered old men like Liam Neeson, old Bruce Willis, even Sean Penn and several others. Recently with the new equal rights movement also women can push any guy for several meters by one punch, which is all fine. But I expect in the next ten years a new series of action movies with babies, like Boss Baby, and other little children having these superpowers in movies. I guess, that is a matter of faireness, that in movies anyone can be as strong as anyone and has the right and gets the abbility to punch and win over bad guys to justify violence as appropriate tool for resolving any kind of conflict. DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted April 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2023 23 hours ago, TolkienSS said: Just watched the trailer. Depressing as hell. Here's the Luke Skywalkerization of Indiana Jones. "You made your mistakes". Bah. Another Blockbuster to skip. Oh, you're right. A character should be exactly the same person in their 70s as they were in their 30s. No arcs please! Personally I thought Luke/Rey/Kylo in TLJ was easily the biggest highlight of the entire messy sequel trilogy. With shots like this I don't need the lightsabers to clash, lol... Sure he had a journey to get there (which I found compelling!), but Luke was friggin' BADASS at end of The Last Jedi... and I don't understand why so many people were up in arms about it, frankly. Yavar blondheim, Smaug The Iron, JNHFan2000 and 7 others 7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 That duel is actually very good. The other duel (also without lightsabers clashing) has a good set, and a fun concept to go from point a to point b, and some fun little moments to integrate into it. The only problem here is the choreography is really bad. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 Agreed but on first watch one doesn't notice it too much. I really do appreciate how Rian Johnson tried to do something different with his film, even if some elements worked out better than others. Return of the Jedi was also a mixed bag, but more derivative of the original. In my opinion The Last Jedi, despite its faults, is actually the best Star Wars film since the first two. I really wish Johnson had been given the entire trilogy and time to plan it out, rather than having to work with what JJ Abrams left him (not that I hated all of The Force Awakens, but JJ really backed him into a corner when it came to the character of Luke), and then having Abrams discard many of his good ideas (like having Rey *not descend from some powerful force user we already know*... sigh). Yavar blondheim and Holko 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 yes because the conclusion to the set piece (i really love the opening wide shot of the fight, the idea is good, the problem is technical) has such a good conclusion where the bastard tries to put her down, and she overcomes the internal obstacle, and i thought "good, now we can move on from this plot into something else, whatever it is". but nooo, we have to complicate it more! edit: oh no, this is the Indy thread, I'm sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Yavar Moradi said: Oh, you're right. A character should be exactly the same person in their 70s as they were in their 30s. No arcs please! Personally I thought Luke/Rey/Kylo in TLJ was easily the biggest highlight of the entire messy sequel trilogy. With shots like this I don't need the lightsabers to clash, lol... Sure he had a journey to get there (which I found compelling!), but Luke was friggin' BADASS at end of The Last Jedi... and I don't understand why so many people were up in arms about it, frankly. Yavar The fact that luke dies, at least for me. It is a silly death too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, Luke Skywalker said: The fact that luke dies, at least for me. It is a silly death too Yeah, falling to his death from a hot air balloon. A terrible disgrace to a beloved character mstrox, Jurassic Shark and Andy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,086 Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 21 minutes ago, Luke Skywalker said: The fact that luke dies, at least for me. It is a silly death too He's not really dead if we remember him and talk about him. 21 minutes ago, Luke Skywalker said: It is a silly death too He's a complex character. GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,670 Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: He's not really dead if we remember him and talk about him. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 15 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said: The fact that luke dies, at least for me. It is a silly death too I mean... Yoda just dies, in the original trilogy. It makes even less sense because he hasn't just exerted himself in any particular way, like Luke did at the end of TLJ. In The Empire Strikes Back Yoda has clearly just been chillin' on Dagobah for decades...after living for centuries. He's still clearly spry (more spry than he lets on at first, even though he's not bouncing around like Sonic the Hedgehog like he was in AotC or RotS, set a few decades previously -- a small fraction of his total lifespan). So how come less than a year later he's on his deathbed randomly like the very evening Luke comes to visit him? It's because he decided to become one with the Force, I guess... but it's at least as silly of a death as Luke's, for a being whose lifespan is like 10x that of a human! And heck even in the original Star Wars, I'd say Obi-Wan Kenobi's death is "silly" too. He just stops fighting Vader, raises his lightsaber, and lets himself be cut in half (or vanishes and becomes one with the Force a split second beforehand?) He didn't need to stop fighting, in order to let the others get away. In fact he probably could have caused more distraction and helped the others if he had kept fighting Vader and tried to take out a few stormtroopers while he was at it! Why is that fine with fans, as a mystical moment of the old sage moving aside so his young protege can take his place in the story, but Luke doing essentially the same thing (but with more story justification) for Rey is somehow offensive to all that is Star Wars, for half of the fandom? Yavar Holko and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brando 1,864 Posted April 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2023 It's all silly when you stop and think about it, and that's why I love it! Andy, Yavar Moradi and mstrox 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Brando said: It's all silly when you stop and think about it, and that's why I love it! Yeah I hear you, but how do you explain the people who are upset/up in arms about Luke's "silly" death, but are seemingly okay with the deaths of Obi-Wan Kenobi or Yoda? Yavar Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,670 Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 15 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: I mean... Yoda just dies, in the original trilogy. It makes even less sense because he hasn't just exerted himself in any particular way, like Luke did at the end of TLJ. In The Empire Strikes Back Yoda has clearly just been chillin' on Dagobah for decades...after living for centuries. He's still clearly spry (more spry than he lets on at first, even though he's not bouncing around like Sonic the Hedgehog like he was in AotC or RotS, set a few decades previously -- a small fraction of his total lifespan). So how come less than a year later he's on his deathbed randomly when Luke comes to visit him? It's because he decided to become one with the Force, I guess... but it's at least as silly of a death as Luke's, for a being whose lifespan is like 10x that of a human! And heck even in the original Star Wars, I'd say Obi-Wan Kenobi's death is "silly" too. He just stops fighting Vader, raises his lightsaber, and lets himself be cut in half (or vanishes and becomes one with the Force a split second beforehand?) He didn't need to stop fighting, in order to let the others get away. In fact he probably could have caused more distraction and helped the others if he had kept fighting Vader and tried to take out a few stormtroopers while he was at it! Why is that fine with fans, as a mystical moment of the old sage moving aside so his young protege can take his place in the story, but Luke doing essentially the same thing (but with more story justification) for Rey is somehow offensive to all that is Star Wars, for half of the fandom? Yavar Yoda does mention that he is sick. Brando and ThePenitentMan1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 they did try to give him the most epic death possible in all of star wars, i'll give them that Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 True, I dont like obi wan saying that if he dies he will be very powerful… when the only thing he does is give directions…. He does not even train luke properly. Yodas death is of natural causes. Not silly at all. Its convenient story wise, but it is completely feasible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,471 Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 47 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: He's not really dead if we remember him and talk about him. Kinda like Drax in JWFan, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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