Popular Post Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted July 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2023 My coworker who is a woman of about 25 has not seen an indiana jones film 😕 Fun ironic fact: i told my parents that i had a discount voucher for the cinema so encouraged them to go to see indy. And they went and watched the jennifer lawrence teenager film instead 🙄 Edmilson, JTN, Andy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 One of my greatest bugbears with Bond continuity was the idea (that seemed to take hold sometime after the 40th anniversary) that 'James Bond' is a codename bestowed upon MI6's/the 00 section's best agent, thereby explaining why he changes every so often. The best rebuttal to this to prove that Connery - Brosnan are, in fact, meant to be the same man is the 'Tracy evidence' ... she is killed just after marrying George Lazenby's 007, so then why is a returning Connery vengefully searching for Blofeld in the pre-credits sequence of DAF, why does Moore get irritated when Anya brings her up in TSWLM (and visit her grave in the pre-credits sequence of FYEO, and effectively go on to kill Blofeld at the end of it), why does Dalton get similarly irritated when an unaware Della jokes with him in LTK about 'being next' at her wedding to Felix (who puts her straight by telling her 'He was married once, a long time ago') and why does Brosnan completely ignore the question when Electra asks him in TWINE if he's ever lost someone he loved if they're all different agents? And also, even with the Craig films having their own arc Skyfall makes it abundantly clear that Bond is the FAMILY name. Oh, and on Indy having little to no appeal for millennials/Gen Z ... I saw a Den Of Geek article yesterday asking that since attitudes to ownership of ancient artifacts etc has changed, does it mean that he's actually a villain now? After an eye-roll so hard I think I saw my brain, I was pleased to see that every single comment on it was along the lines of 'No, don't be ridiculous'. TolkienSS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andy 4,141 Posted July 4, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2023 For what it’s worth, I took my 20 year old and I think she loved it more than I did. She is very much of her generation and not “nerdy” like her old man. Tallguy, Brando and Jilal 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 13 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said: My coworker who is a woman of about 25 has not seen an indiana jones film 😕 Fun ironic fact: i told my parents that i had a discount voucher for the cinema so encouraged them to go to see indy. And they went and watched the jennifer lawrence teenager film instead 🙄 They chose wisely, didn't they? You wouldn't want anyone to watch Rise of Skywalker as their first Star Wars film, would you? iamleyeti and JTN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Well my parents have seen all previous indy films... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,473 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Okay, this headline here made me laugh: ‘Indiana Jones & The Dial Of Destiny’s $82 Million+ 5-Day Total Not Far From July 4th Disaster ‘Superman Returns’ JTN and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 Saw it a second time and it was a bit tedious. I don't think I could sit through it a third time. BB-8, JTN and TolkienSS 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 I Think there is a tighter, better version about 9 minutes shorter. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 8,019 Posted July 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2023 I'm waiting for my second viewing to start. I'm here mostly for Johnny. Want to hear the music again now that I know the album (haven't heard it before my first). Karol Chewy, JoeinAR, MikeH and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 On 04/07/2023 at 11:24 PM, Luke Skywalker said: Well my parents have seen all previous indy films... I mixed that up. I thought that it was your coworker that you got to go to the cinema. Still, my argument remains valid. JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Bezerra 302 Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 My father only knew the movie existed after it premiered, I'm sure there's lots of people who had no idea a new movie was coming out, I went to see it monday and there were lots of older people and a few my age/younger. I don't know a single person my age who knows/cares about Indiana Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,473 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 If the movie fell down 56% at the box office with the only competition being Insidious 5 and a Christian movie, imagine next week when M: I premieres. Quote And then there’s “Indiana,” the franchise’s most expensive film with a reported budget of $350 million-$400 million before marketing. After a disappointing $60 million opening, it dropped 56 percent. That ends the faint hope that older audiences, or any other, would sustain it with good word of mouth. After two weekends, its gross stands at $121 million domestic, $248 million worldwide — a total that likely represents 70 percent of its ultimate haul. Disney collects about 50% of ticket sales, which means it’s very possible that film’s the global theatrical gross will cover less than half of its extraordinary cost. https://www.indiewire.com/news/box-office/indiana-jones-box-office-flop-disney-movie-faces-massive-loss-1234882402/ JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted July 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Edmilson said: If the movie fell down 56% at the box office with the only competition being Insidious 5 and a Christian movie, imagine next week when M: I premieres. How is a movie about real-life child sex trafficking based on a true story a "Christian" movie? TolkienSS, iamleyeti and Not Mr. Big 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dr. Rick said: How is a movie about real-life child sex trafficking based on a true story a "Christian" movie? That'd make it a catholic movie technically bollemanneke and iamleyeti 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,473 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 29 minutes ago, Dr. Rick said: How is a movie about real-life child sex trafficking based on a true story a "Christian" movie? Deadline called it "Faith-based", and apparently the distributor also financed many movies targeting religious people. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Edmilson said: Deadline called it "Faith-based", and apparently the distributor also financed many movies targeting religious people. Its numbers were also boosted by some company buying tickets in bulk and gifting them to church groups for "free". Essentially gaming the system Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TolkienSS 407 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Dr. Rick said: How is a movie about real-life child sex trafficking based on a true story a "Christian" movie? The same way Indy 5 is fun for the whole family. Dr. Rick and JTN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted July 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Not Mr. Big said: Its numbers were also boosted by some company buying tickets in bulk and gifting them to church groups for "free". Essentially gaming the system Just like Disney did with Captain Marvel IIRC ThePenitentMan1, JTN and TolkienSS 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 The main guy in that movie is literally played by Jesus Christ. TolkienSS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted July 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2023 19 minutes ago, mstrox said: The main guy in that movie is literally played by Jesus Christ. WOW! I didn't know Jesus starred in that movie as Jim Caviezel! I know what you mean, sorry couldn't resist. Willem Dafoe also played Jesus as well as other actors, what's your point? TolkienSS, JTN and Brando 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Any movie starring Jesus is automatically religious. Just like Crashmore is a Christmas movie, regardless of what Santa Claus would like you to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,473 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, mstrox said: Any movie starring Jesus is automatically religious. Like this one? JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenitentMan1 744 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 I actually just saw The Sound Of Freedom last night. I actually really liked it. Dr. Rick and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,141 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Took Mom and Dad today to see the film. Seemed appreciate since they took me to Raiders as a kid. We all had a great time. Third time for me. Give it a week and I could see it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post enderdrag64 624 Posted July 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2023 I finally got to see DoD last night, I really enjoyed it. I was never a big fan of Indiana Jones in general, having never even seen KOTCS and only seen the trilogy once or twice, but I loved this one. My girlfriend had never seen any of the movies before watching this one and she loved it too. It's unfortunate it hasn't done better at the box office Andy, Brando and Manakin Skywalker 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,483 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 It's my third viewing today, and the last screening at my local cinema. Could be the last time I hear a JW score in an actual cinema... The first time was 1978... Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Oppenheimer and Barbie are forcing Indy 5 out already? damn! BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,483 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jay said: Oppenheimer and Barbie are forcing Indy 5 out already? damn! At my local cinema, Indy 5 is being replaced by... Edmilson, Bayesian and Brando 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 I'm going for a second time when I get out of work shortly. I suspect next week may be its last in the UK cinema run. BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 a single month? eh it doesn't matter, screw disney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,473 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 We live in a weird world where Indiana Jones is a box office bomb and Barbie will be a monster hit. Brónach and Andy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Margot Robbie's a lot hotter than Harrison Ford these days. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Barbie looks good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Have read that it's clear that Gerwig and Baumbach wanted the satire to be sharper, but as it obviously wouldn't have got made without Mattel being heavily involved it pulls its punches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 well that's a bit disappointing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,045 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 On 16/7/2023 at 5:18 AM, Andy said: Seemed appreciate since they took me to Raiders as a kid. You got the better end of the deal. 16 hours ago, Edmilson said: We live in a weird world where Indiana Jones is a box office bomb and Barbie will be a monster hit. If it were Raiders, it would be the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenturnedblue 372 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 9 hours ago, Sweeping Strings said: Have read that it's clear that Gerwig and Baumbach wanted the satire to be sharper, but as it obviously wouldn't have got made without Mattel being heavily involved it pulls its punches. Hopefully there is an unrated cut on the blu ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 That probably wouldn't be as hot as it sounds, Barbie and Ken famously don't have genitals. lol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,401 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 For the first time since I moved to my little town in Ohio I went to get tickets for a movie and found that I couldn't get the seats I wanted: Oppenheimer. So I'm going to a Sunday evening show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,671 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 On 19/07/2023 at 9:56 AM, Jay said: Oppenheimer and Barbie are forcing Indy 5 out already? damn! Now I am become death, the destroyer of Indy. Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,019 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 To be honest, they are probably better movies too. Dead Reckoning definitely was. I don't mind Dial of Destiny, and might even catch it the third time this week to listen to the score in context once more, but the film doesn't feel essential or special. Which, in some sense, is worse than being terrible. I'm grateful we have the new score though. I really enjoy it. Karol Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 The destiny of this movie seemed sealed from the start. It marked the end of Harrison Ford's portrayal of Indiana Jones, and also the final collaboration with composer John Williams. Furthermore, Steven Spielberg declined to direct it. The film, which I haven't seen yet, appears to avoid an abrupt ending by not killing off Indy but also lacks the hope of future sequels, making its underperformance at the box office unsurprising. Who would want to watch a movie with such a predetermined fate? Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,372 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 I think, the main issue is that the movie feels very much like a James Mangold movie than a Spielberg movie and not a very good one. Somehow I got more Indy vibes at watching Jungle Cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 On 20/07/2023 at 6:23 PM, Sweeping Strings said: Have read that it's clear that Gerwig and Baumbach wanted the satire to be sharper, but as it obviously wouldn't have got made without Mattel being heavily involved it pulls its punches. It's still surprisingly very sharp, if there was executive meddling at any stage they've done a great job at hiding it. On 20/07/2023 at 3:02 AM, Edmilson said: We live in a weird world where Indiana Jones is a box office bomb and Barbie will be a monster hit. Barbie was written and directed by genuinely talented people with interesting styles (Gerwig and Baumbach as writers, Gerwig directing), and with a marketing budget comparable to the The Force Awakens. DoD's marketing was pretty poor IMO and definitely contributed to its wet-blanket reception (that and the Cannes debacle) - it's clear Disney are pulling back in a major way. The whole Barbenheimer meme was also a tremendous - and crucially, organic - push for Barbie; you can't compete with the zeitgeist. Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,419 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Not to give too much credit to those Mickey Mouse fuckers but maybe deep down they knew Indy V was only gonna appeal to fans and sacrificed the casual and that's why they pulled back. Does a shit ton of marketing still bring in the casuals to this franchise in this day and age? Idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephariel 451 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Marketing wasn't the problem. People know what an Indiana Jones movie is. They got 4 other movies as references. A Barbie film on the other hand, can go 100 different directions and marketing was key to success. Spending $300 million on Indiana Jones just wasn't smart (with the pandemic, maybe there wasn't a choice) regardless of marketing. I know this sounds off rails, but I wish Williams realized the sinking ship that DOD would become and asked to compose for Barbie instead. I would be 20 times more curious to see what a John Williams Barbie score would sound like than another Indiana Jones. bollemanneke and Brando 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 John Williams - Barbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,842 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 5 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said: John Williams - Barbie I would LOVE to hear something like this. 100 times more than Indiana Jones. I assume it would be a somewhat jazzy score? Anyway, we'll never know.. greenturnedblue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,473 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 10 hours ago, Mephariel said: I know this sounds off rails, but I wish Williams realized the sinking ship that DOD would become and asked to compose for Barbie instead. I would be 20 times more curious to see what a John Williams Barbie score would sound like than another Indiana Jones. Imagine a John Williams/Dua Lipa collaboration. Dance the Night - Orchestral version Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 4 hours ago, filmmusic said: I would LOVE to hear something like this. 100 times more than Indiana Jones. I assume it would be a somewhat jazzy score? Anyway, we'll never know.. if i were the director of DOD i would freak out the man by bringing up his music and other's from the sixties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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