HOOK (1991) - NEW! 2023 3-CD Ultimate Edition Produced, Edited, and Mastered by Mike Matessino featuring all Williams/Bricusse songs

[Chewy 2,510]

14 minutes ago, Brando said:

I can't wait to hear The Legacy of John Williams episode on this release!

Yes!! And I'm so curious to hear stories about the sources used for this, considering how much could not be found for the 2012 release.

[Luke Skywalker 1,939]

Man 11 years ago. Time flies by.

[mrbellamy 6,753]

Shoutout to this 2012 exchange I've never forgotten, when Gruesome's avatar was a shirtless selfie 

 

On 01/08/2012 at 2:00 AM, mahler3 said:

Tommy Pearson is interviewing John Williams for ClassicFM on Thursday (LA Time), and ClassicFM are inviting their Facebook fans to submit questions. Go for it!

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151084563549260&set=a.433117119259.201606.6569469259&type=1&theater

 

On 01/08/2012 at 7:44 PM, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said:

Where's the fucking film version of The Never-Feast, old man?!

 

On 01/08/2012 at 11:33 PM, Incanus said:

I can see you taking him by the collar of his turtleneck and yelling that to his face.

 

On 02/08/2012 at 7:43 AM, Luke Skywalker said:

i read that, and then looked at his avatar.

And the mental image that came to my mind should never have come!

 

[Incanus 5,801]

Wow! Amazing! Rejoice! 

I can't believe Mike got to include all the Bricusse songs as well. Now that's comprehensive!

[Luke Skywalker 1,939]

the never feast insert without speed distortion mixed in. Magic.

 

Childhood song, lovely.

[Holko 10,231]

So...

Actually, I've seen the movie twice (will be 3 times by the end of the day).

I've heard the OST once.

I've never listened to the first LLL in full.

Never checked out any of the boots.

I do love the pieces on Spielberg/Williams II.

 

 

 

 

 

This is what I've been waiting for. I'll get to know the score now in detail for the first time on its own terms in its proper form as it should be. And I'm hyped as fuck

[Incanus 5,801]

And this is truly the ultimate edition. Nearly 4 hours of music! 

[That_Bloke 124]

To quote a younger generation:

"SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"

 

Thank you @Jay , Mike Matessino, John Takis, and anyone else here who worked on this release.

 

Disney, you and your IJ releases can go raid a lost ark. We're hooked instead thanks. 

 

Edit: compared to this being the JW release for this BF, I'm glad to be wrong about how it could  be The Rare Breed (not that TRB wouldn't have been appreciated).

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,489]

Me this morning

 

Can't believe this is finally coming. A massive thanks to Mike Matessino, @Jay, everyone at LLL and Sony who succeed to bring this baby to life, you're the best!

[Holko 10,231]

One thing just looking at the tracklist - the "some additional music"/"whole bunch of chronoesque bonus"/"okay some more bonus" separation is a bit weird to me. Of course something had to happen because of the CD format limitations (which actually works out perfectly for the main program, that's a wonderful stopping and starting point) but it seems to me like pretty much all the bonus section could have been in chronoesque order together with little to no repetition and then we'd have one main and one alternate program. Oh well. Maybe there's some reasoning behind it we'll get to know in the podcast?

[QuartalHarmony 675]

9 minutes ago, That_Bloke said:

you and your IJ releases can go raid a lost ark. We're hooked instead thanks

 

 

I've got a very long drive to do later today. Whilst I won't be able to fill four hours of it with all that Hooky goodness, I will have a smile on my face, knowing that this has happened.

[jocores 98]

So so happy... But listening to the song samples, they seem to be newly recorded for this edition. Don't you think? I mean There are reports about Julie Andrews recording Childhood but listening to the samples I does not seem her voice.

[1977 1,746]

1 hour ago, Amer said:

I eagerly await the Podcast from Maurizio and team! 

 

Indeed! 

[Holko 10,231]

1 minute ago, jocores said:

but listening to the samples I does not seem her voice.

Uhh yes it does? 0:14 that "Make everyone shine" is sooo her

[filmmusic 2,195]

I'm also curious about childhood. Is the accompaniment originally written by Williams? Or is it like a fan made version?

[Chewy 2,510]

Available on MBR: https://www.musicbox-records.com/fr/cd-musiques-de-films/13946-hook-the-ultimate-edition-expanded-remastered.html

[BB-8 3,936]

Ordered (together with Zorro).

 

What a contrast to the (no-)shopping experience at DME!

[QuartalHarmony 675]

OK, I've calmed down ever so slightly now. Some slightly more reflective thoughts than just WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH:

 

1. Will be very interested to hear what sources were found for this. 1st gen, maybe? Digital or analogue? Of course, they could all have been transferred years ago. I won't be surprised if it turns out that this was actually done a while ago and it's just the release that's been held up for whatever irritating reason.
2. Two booklets? Love it, especially the 'Awfully Big Soundtrack' title on one of them.
3. Jay's now Associate Producer, eh? We're not worthy.
4. I can't believe it won't have been, but I will emit a sigh of relief when/if I hear for certain that the 48kHz/44.1kHz speed error in the Prologue has been properly corrected, preferably by transferring it properly through a rate convertor, not just fiddling with the speed in ProTools/Audacity/whatever.
5. OK, so who here's going to stick to any previous personal policy of 'I'm never going to order in the first batch, I'm going to wait until they press corrected versions'?

Mark

[Davis 2,895]

2 hours ago, A. A. Ron said:

I wouldn’t be surprised if this has been in the pipeline for a while and just got held up with licensing or something.

It’s been ready for years. 

[Drawgoon 109]

Sometimes record labels clearly state on their promo that the material was transferred from "newly discovered masters", tapes, etc, from studio's vaults, composer's x-track tapes, etc.

 

Some times they don't say anything and summarize it to just "newly remastered". Like the one we have here for Hook.

 

Is that merely a wordplay decision, or does actually reflect something about the source? Like, for example, does it mean the source of all previously-released material for Hook is the same as the previous release (albeit remastered), but they were also able to source various new cues from, say, music editors, recording engineers, etc, but not necessarily from actual tapes or masters stored in place like studio vaults or composer archives, etc?

[Groovygoth666 1,024]

Maybe Mike started on it the same time he worked on the Mondo release - 

 

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From memory Mike said the Mondo used the same transfers done in 2011 for the previous LLL, so I suspect this release primarily uses the same transfers, mixed with new transfers for previously unreleased material (songs, new alternates, etc.) or material that used film stems on the last expansion (Ultimate War). What a relief legitimate elements have now replaced film stems.

 

When the first LLL expansion came out, MV said they discovered a stack of material in the Sony vaults they weren't allowed to release. It took over a decade but now, at long last, this is resolved

[QuartalHarmony 675]

15 minutes ago, Drawgoon said:

Is that merely a wordplay decision, or does actually reflect something about the source?

 

Assuming the wording is being chosen carefully, 'newly-discovered' strongly implies that a rerelease represents a significant step up from the sound quality of previous releases, like the Superman 40th Anniversary LLL release. Slight implication of there being previously-unreleased material too.

 

'Newly remastered', on the other hand, suggests the original source is the same as previous releases, but someone's done a fresh take on the EQ, levels etc., so it's not likely to sound massively different or better than previous releases (unless the previous one was dogshit).

 

Either phrase is a signal that it isn't just a lazy reissue of basically the same masters as before with just slightly different cover art. Which no professional and self-respecting label would ever stoop so low as to do, would they, DME?

[Bryant Burnette 691]

Ordered, along with Topaz!

[aj_vader 568]

Ordered instantly! Sooo Happy!!!!!!!!

[Davis 2,895]

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[Mr. Breathmask 566]

Instant purchase. A truly complete Hook has been a holy grail release for over twenty years to me. This looks like just that. Amazing.

[Incanus 5,801]

1 minute ago, Mr. Breathmask said:

Instant purchase. A truly complete Hook has been a holy grail release for over twenty years to me. This looks like just that. Amazing.

Amen!  I think the truly complete version of this score has been on so many holy grail lists of JWFans for so long time. Wonderful to finally see it coming true. And in such a comprehensive manner.  

 

Bless you folks at La-La Land and everybody involved in producing this set!

[Gurkensalat 350]

I am very happy and intend to buy, but I will wait first for reviews. I want this to be the last (the 4th!) version I buy, this time everything must be perfect.

[Pat_S 72]

Who's making the Isolated Score restoration?  

[rough cut 1,742]

I can only chime in with the praise, an amazing release for an amazing soundtrack . It can not be overstated how much I love this soundtrack, so ordered instantly - naturally.

[Jurassic Shark 13,158]

4 hours ago, Jay said:

THE ULTIMATE EDITION

 

So it's not complete, further evidenced by CDs filled to the rim with music. They likely had to remove something to avoid it becoming a 4 CD set.

[Richard P 4,189]

Regarding the source/remastering, the original expansion sounds fine except for the bits taken from the stems as far as I remember? It's not like they used a really inferior source - just that the source they had wasn't complete. Hence the lack of any revelatory new source for the bulk of it seems a reasonable starting point.

 

So I was completely wrong about this being a totally unfounded, unreasonable request, and had I been a slightly bigger fan of the score and this been the first expansion, I'd be ecstatic too   Excellent news for those who love this score so much, and well done for those involved.

 

I'll wait for reports on any increase in sound quality before making any decisions. If it turns out it sounds amazing I could be tempted to rebuild my program and add in a few curiosities.

 

My hope is that there's some ... shall we say... slightly less Williams-oriented goodies that didn't make manufacturing/approvals in time - I hereby now reserve the right to ask for JP/// on a daily basis, given that it's just worked for Hook!

[GerateWohl 5,040]

5 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

So it's not complete, ...

I was wondering when this was going to come up.

[Brónach 1,306]

i noticed this casually seeing Jay's avatar and i was like "is this a joke"

[Davis 2,895]

8 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

So it's not complete, further evidenced by CDs filled to the rim with music. They likely had to remove something to avoid it becoming a 4 CD set.

 

[bollemanneke 3,593]

Ordered from MB! Won't be able to listen till Christmas.

 

Jay, tell us how long you've known about this, please. 2013? How do you cope with these things?

 

It seems perfect. MM did it so how could it not be?

[ThePenitentMan1 1,017]

9 hours ago, Jay said:

THE ULTIMATE EDITION

 

4 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

So it's not complete, further evidenced by CDs filled to the rim with music. They likely had to remove something to avoid it becoming a 4 CD set.

 

I thought it was because of the fact that it was a straight reconstruction of the final film edits with a blue-filtered image of the film's antagonist as the cover art.

 

[HanFiredFirst 70]

Ordered!! LLL knocked it out of the park with this and Horner's Sneakers and Zorro. Now just hoping they arrive in the UK before Christmas...

[QuartalHarmony 675]

Yes, although it's not really a Christmas film, the sleigh-bell stuff for some of the snowy London scenes would soundtrack a Christmas Tree decorating session nicely.

 

Did anyone else have a moment of pause when they looked at the promo picture and saw what looks like the previous expanded edition sticking out of the box?

 

Thank goodness it's not DME, otherwise that's probably what we would be getting right now.

 

[Davis 2,895]

14 minutes ago, bollemanneke said:

How do you cope with these things?

By making lots of spreadsheets. :-)

[bollemanneke 3,593]

Also wonder why Sony bothered to veto certain tracks in 2012. It's not like they wanted to do it themselves and I can't believe they did it to give LLL some extra money opportunities now.

[Sandor 843]

Ordered. Seems like a wonderful release! Thanks to Jason and all involved! 

[BB-8 3,936]

1 hour ago, JTW said:

 

I'm not really hooked by this witchy trailer music.

[Thor 8,353]

I'd be interested in getting just the songs, and put them together as a sort of mini version of what the original Peter Pan musical would have sounded like.

[QuartalHarmony 675]

Indeed - I can't remember what the Prologue music ended up being used for, though I think it's been mentioned on here. Was it used on an obscure teaser, or was it intended for trailer use but never actually used?

 

There's this on YouTube, but they're unclear about whether it was actually released or not:

 

[Jurassic Shark 13,158]

42 minutes ago, ThePenitentMan1 said:

 

I thought it was because of the fact that it was a straight reconstruction of the final film edits with a blue-filtered image of the film's antagonist as the cover art.

 

 

He really should brush his teeth.

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39 minutes ago, Thor said:

I'd be interested in getting just the songs, and put them together as a sort of mini version of what the original Peter Pan musical would have sounded like.

 

That's essentially what disc 3 looks like; the original song recordings presented alongside the score's core thematic ideas, in chronological order.

 

Even the OST version of Remembering Childhood made the assembly, which is a great touch (clearly Williams was partial to this track because it was ported to the previous LLL expansion as well).

[BB-8 3,936]

I like Ultimate Editions.

They give me a sense of wholeness so I can rest in peace without missing anything.

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Just now, BB-8 said:

I like Ultimate Editions.

They give me a sense of wholeness so I can rest in peace without missing anything.