crocodile 8,020 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 So that means we get something around 22-23 minutes of score. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,984 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 That's the tally of original music in the film. "Mother and Son" sounds a lot like a concert/album arrangement to me, though. crocodile and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,378 Posted November 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2022 Going back to this: On 04/11/2022 at 9:48 AM, Jay said: Well, the 8 score-only tracks (1-2, 4-6, 8, 10, 11) total 17:31 The 3 purely non-Williams tracks (3,7,9) total 7:35 We don't know how much of the 6:08 track 12 is Williams, and how much is Haydn, yet. Track 12 is 4:57 of Williams and 1:11 of Haydn So the final numbers are: The 8 score-only tracks (1-2, 4-6, 8, 10, 11) total 17:31 + 4:57 of track 12 = 22:28 total Williams The 3 purely non-Williams tracks (3,7,9) total 7:35 + 1:11 of track 12 = 8:46 total non-Williams Track 12 is Williams from 0:00-0:47, then Haydn until 1:58, then Williams from 1:58-end So the FYC album will probably have the 0:00-0:47 part as "The Journey Begins", and the 1:58-end part as "End Credits" (separate tracks) Sandor, crlbrg, Brando and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted November 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2022 I finally listenned to it and what a beautiful score. It's tender, gentle, a bit short (but mostly because I always want more Williams) and above all dreamy. I'm sure it will uplift the movie in an amazing way. Thanks Maestro for this new masterpiece! JonathanAsh, Dr. Know, MaxMovieMan and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,844 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Oh wow, I didn't realize the soundtrack was releasing in one day! Can't wait to listen to it this weekend. BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 3 hours ago, crumbs said: Well, please reassure us that it's there Will do once I can listen. I should clarify -- in order to manage expectations -- that when I say "soars," I mean relative to the rest of the score. Obviously it's not Across the Stars or Rey's Theme. But it's quite a beautiful moment. Oh, another thing to note that I observed in the film: The main theme doesn't seem to be introduced until very late in the film (though it's possible there were more subtle variations I missed). What I assume is the album's opening track ("The Fabelmans") plays in the final third of the film, if I remember correctly. Dr. Know and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serdar_askin 6 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 As in this main theme, I'll miss his characteristic triplets in his melodies so much... MaxMovieMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Thor 7,529 Posted November 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2022 I'll pretend I just didn't read the above. Instead, I want to say what a lovely score this is, now that I've heard the whole thing. Very much my kind of style these days, and unlike -- say -- THE BOOK THIEF, which noodled a bit too much all over the place for my taste, this is firmly cemented in melody and structure. This easily vies for a top 3 position among his post-2005 work, as far as I'm concerned. Whether I put it ahead of the other two, WAR HORSE and THE POST, I don't know yet. Requires a few more listens. Raiders of the SoundtrArk, Manakin Skywalker, Sandor and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,696 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 I like the main theme more than I did in sample form, and I was particularly drawn to the latter half of Mother and Son. The rest of the score... not really doing a huge amount for me, to be honest. There's 'tragic' Williams in Midnight Call and overall it's pleasant if slightly unremarkable. Unfortunately the classical selections don't do much for me; I'm not much of a classical listener at the best of times and the selections here aren't my thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,843 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Where did you hear the whole thing? I thought this comes out tomorrow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 1,864 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, filmmusic said: Where did you hear the whole thing? I thought this comes out tomorrow! It is available online already....if you know where to look. I'll be waiting myself but this is what I've been told. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, filmmusic said: Where did you hear the whole thing? I thought this comes out tomorrow! This is an international forum. It may still be Thursday in the country you live in, but it's already Friday in many countries at this point. https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/full.html?sort=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,843 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Just now, Jay said: This is an international forum. It may still be Thursday in the country you love in, but it's already Friday in many countries at this point. Well, the 2 people that said listened to the whole thing are in Norway and the UK and certainly isn't Friday there. But no worries, I'm listening to it right now. Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,474 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 The whole score is amazing, 20 minutes of greatness. And Mitzi's Dance is already one of my favorite cues of the year. MaxMovieMan and Sandor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,843 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 OK, first listen, I skipped through the classical pieces. I'm afraid I will tend to agree with @Richard Penna. Aside the main theme, which I liked better in "Mother and Son", the score didn't do much for me either. And since @Thor mentioned his top 3 post-2005 scores, mine would be War Horse, Tintin and Lincoln. If I were to compare with other "chamber-y" scores, I would much prefer eg. Stanley and Iris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Without seeing the movie? 😜🫣😱😂 I have a very nice tradition. When new JW score is coming, I always bought 200 bottles of beer. When the first sound clips(1.7 seconds) come out( or some photo of sheet music + transcription of the theme) I start my game. Every time I see a negative comment here of that, I will have a beer And there are many bashers , even a competition, who is first. Always the same dudes, mentioned here, my heroes. But it works, I'm always drunk. Many weeks. They haven't seen the film, the inspiration for the composer but they know better. I love this place. serdar_askin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,696 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Joni Wiljami said: Every time I see a negative comment here of that, I will have a beer And there are many, even a competition, who is first. Always the same dudes, mentioned here, my heroes. But it works, I'm always drunk. Many weeks. Sounds like fun, but why direct your energy towards lamenting those who don't find inspiration in JW's latest score? Who knows, two weeks from now you might see me posting that I now love the score and just bought the CD - much stranger things have happened. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: Sounds like fun, but why direct your energy towards lamenting those who don't find inspiration in JW's latest score? Who knows, two weeks from now you might see me posting that I now love the score and just bought the CD - much stranger things have happened. I really hope so and if you say, after seeing the film, hearing the whole cd multiple times and its still bad, I'm totally ok. It is not for you. But please, give it a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,696 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 I don't actually plan to see the film btw - I watch very few new films. Almost all of my discovery of new scores is as concept albums. (major recent exception being RoP) And I never said I thought it was bad.... just not very memorable, and emotionally (because I never talk in musical language) it doesn't have anything in it that I don't hear in other composers' work. It's just 'another score' in my world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 I don't find it memorable either. I didn't put any tracks on repeat listening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 And you have seen the film? Thanks for the two more beers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Sounds a bit like an Alexandre Desplat score for this type of film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GlastoEls 563 Posted November 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2022 Midnight here in the U.K. - happy new Williams soundtrack day everyone! MrJosh, Once, artguy360 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,844 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Listened to the soundtrack several times through, a couple times with the classical piece, then without. What I can say for sure is that The Fabelmans is JW's smallest, most intimate score in quite some time. In sound and scale, it is smaller than The Post, Book Thief, Sabrina, or even Stanley and Iris. Aside from a few moments in the end credits, the music never tries to be anything more than intimate, quiet, and gentle. There are definitely two repeating themes: the Fabelmans theme and a much colder, hesitant, dramatic theme. They contrast quite a bit but are almost never played back to back. The score is so grounded in solo piano, it's unusual even among JW's more piano-centric scores. I think chamber-like is the best way to describe The Fabelmans. I think the end credits don't work as well as the rest of the score because it opens up a bit and becomes a bit more full, orchestrally speaking. I would rather it stay small and intimate. Gonna keep listening to hear what else stands out. Mother and Son is a lovely track, but so far I'm not sure there is a clear highlight track on the OST. MrJosh and Incanus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Mulder 154 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 More memorable than Obi-Wan. Cool Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 ObiWan's pretty great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydirium 1,167 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Is it just me, or does Qobuz generally seem to have a delay in releasing new albums, compared to the other services? Seems like the OST is available everywhere but there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Will 2,215 Posted November 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2022 I can confirm that all the major musical moments that I remember (including the entire end credits cue) are on the OST! "Mother and Son" and "The Journey Begins" are instant highlights on the OST (as they were for me in the film!). Much of the rest may take longer to warm to, but I will reiterate that the main theme is absolutely gorgeous. Has that wonderful JW feeling of being both new and at the same time feeling almost inevitable, like the melody was always out there just waiting to be discovered. JW is still the greatest. Brando, JonathanAsh, crumbs and 7 others 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p0llux 400 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Well, this is it boys and girls. The 29th, and what is possibly?, the final collaboration between Steven Spielberg and John Williams. Enjoy! Quote Without John Williams, bikes don't really fly. Nor do brooms in quidditch matches. Nor do men in red capes. There is no force. Dinosaurs do not walk the earth. We do not wonder. We do not weep. We do not believe. -Steven Spielberg Joe Brausam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,844 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 More thoughts from listening to the OST on repeat: The classical music is important to the listening experience. The score is not the same without them, especially with how the Hadyn piece is Integrated into the final track. Classical music is a part of the soundtrack in an important way. Reverie is a beautiful piece. The solo piano is so bare, it's kind of devastating which is not what I associate with the word reverie. The guitar in Mother and Son and The Journey Begins adds some much needed warmth to the score. It contrasts with the harp and the piano in a gentle and satisfying way. Also very reminiscent of Stepmom. JonathanAsh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 I think I'll edit out the last section of The Journey Begins and call it "theme from Fablemen". Or delete the Haydn part. there's silences between so it should be easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted November 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2022 The Journey Begins is so wonderful. That last modulation at 5:00 sums up their amazing collaboration. 😍😭🥰 Brando, serdar_askin, Sandor and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Foundling 11 Posted November 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2022 After very few listens I can hum the main theme. He has worked his magic. Sandor, Trope, Brando and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr. Know 326 Posted November 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2022 Love the main theme. Vince, Trope, MrJosh and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,383 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Wonderful score indeed. I confess, I am not really a fan of the celeste sound. It usually brings a kind of baby craddle music box lullaby vibe into every piece where it appears, that I don't particularly like unless it is actually a baby craddle music box lullaby. As I haven't seen the movie yet, the movie creates in me associations with other wonderful Williams scores like Angela's Ashes, Stepmom and yes, even Jaws in the last track. But from experience I know, this score will develop a life of its own in my mind over time. I really hope, for the upcoming concerts Williams will create a little concert suite of The Fabelmans, like he did for BFG. Sandor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince 34 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Gave The Fabelmans a listen this morning and I'm quite taken with it. It's a touching blend of melancholy and warmth that does remind one of the joys and bitterness of childhood. I'm really anxious to hear how Williams' score and the classical pieces are applied within the film itself. Alas, many of us outside of the States have to wait another couple of months before the film reaches our shores but I'm sure this score will tide us over nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,843 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 2 hours ago, artguy360 said: classical music is important to the listening experience. The score is not the same without them, especially with how the Hadyn piece is Integrated into the final track. Classical music is a part of the soundtrack in an important way. Really? I have listened to the soundtrack 4 times already and every time I skip the classical pieces. I don't know, it seems to me they will take you out of the mood that the score creates every time they appear. Dr. Know 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 5 hours ago, Tydirium said: Is it just me, or does Qobuz generally seem to have a delay in releasing new albums, compared to the other services? Seems like the OST is available everywhere but there. It has been available right after midnight in Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 907 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 2 hours ago, filmmusic said: Really? I have listened to the soundtrack 4 times already and every time I skip the classical pieces. Me too! I'm a Williams fan first. I gave them a listen - never a bad thing to explore, but when I feel like some nice Fabelman's music, it's Williams all the way with a bit of an edit in the last track to remove the offending non-Williams music. Sorry Joe Haydn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 It feels a bit surreal and bittersweet listening to probably the last Williams score for a Spielberg film. filmmusic, Sandor and MaxMovieMan 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonathanAsh 80 Posted November 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2022 I’m already absolutely in love with this score. The two themes are gorgeous, it bears all the hallmarks of Williams’ handwriting that I love so much while never defaulting to autopilot. Considering this will probably be the final collaboration between Spielberg and Williams, it feels appropriate and bittersweet at the same time that it is such an introspective, quiet score. But I wouldn’t want to have it any other way. I agree with @artguy360 that the classical pieces form an integral part of the soundtrack album, fitting very naturally with the restrained, chamber-like scoring of the film score itself. I especially loved the way Williams adds the orchestra to the Haydn piano sonata and then segues to his own material; it reminded me a bit of “Home and Hearth” from Empire of the Sun, where he integrated the Chopin Mazurka in a similar fashion. It’s such a bittersweet feeling, listening to a new John Williams soundtrack, full well knowing it will be one of the last. I cherished every moment of it. artguy360, Taikomochi, crumbs and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 It's a very gentle and understated score. Haven't heard any of it before this morning. I think it might have a decent chance winning some awards given that it is a complete antithesis of what you expect from Spielberg/Williams collaborations. The classical pieces work very nicely on the album actually. I need to give it a couple more listens as it is a very small quiet piece but my first impressions are very positive. It sort wants me to re-explore some of the smaller Williams scores now. Karol Once and Pawel P. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 4,673 Posted November 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2022 1 hour ago, JonathanAsh said: I especially loved the way Williams adds the orchestra to the Haydn piano sonata and then segues to his own material; it reminded me a bit of “Home and Hearth” from Empire of the Sun, where he integrated the Chopin Mazurka in a similar fashion. Yes, I love this moment. It is so elegant and classical one would think it might be Haydn but the warmth of Williams's string writing reminds you it is him. it makes me wish he did a full variation of a piece like this. Falstaft, Will, JonathanAsh and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,383 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 1 hour ago, pete said: but when I feel like some nice Fabelman's music, it's Williams all the way with a bit of an edit in the last track to remove the offending non-Williams music. Sorry Joe Haydn! Did you also create an edit of Home Alone's Holiday Flight where you cut out the parts, that Williams used from Tchaikowsky's Russian Dance from the Nutcracker? Dr. Know and filmmusic 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,529 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 I actually love the blend of original and classical music. I'm a sucker for those kinds of soundtracks, when done well, as is the case here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Knight of Ren 789 Posted November 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2022 I listened to the album twice and it has some nice moments, but overall, being as introspective and small as it is, left me a bit underwhelmed, perhaps because I expected something bigger or more orchestral. But I'm sure further listens and hearing it in context will help me appreciate the score more, and I certainly think this could earn Williams what will probably be his last nomination (and even win?). Anyway, the main theme is really lovely and stuck with me since the very first time it plays right at the beginning, and I think it's the definite highlight of the entire thing, so I felt compelled to do a small suite of the theme, joining the Mother and Son cue with the last part of The Journey Begins, as a sort of concert arrangement of the theme, highlighting my favorite two variations on the theme (which are the lovely guitar arrangement that opens the Mother and Son cue and then the orchestral arrangement near the end of The Journey Begins, with that classic Williams modultaion!) Hope you like it! GerateWohl, Dr. Know and artguy360 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbeck 123 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Liked on first listen. When the last track started I thought my player had skipped to "Out To Sea" from Jaws. Ale Gere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quppa 117 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 27 minutes ago, danbeck said: Liked on first listen. When the last track started I thought my player had skipped to "Out To Sea" from Jaws. My thoughts exactly. Is it a coincidence or is there some tie-in to Jaws in the film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastoEls 563 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 45 minutes ago, Quppa said: My thoughts exactly. Is it a coincidence or is there some tie-in to Jaws in the film? Thought the same! Deliberate Jaws citation/quote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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