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Mike M is happy with the clips being discussed, so be gone ambiguity! Here’s the array of audio / video treats which were played and Maurizio did sterling work editing the audio to video. All very elegant: - CLIP: 1st SW cue ever recorded, aka "The Swashbucklers" - 6 min - CLIP: JW on the scoring stage - Harry Potter Logo raw takes - 5 min - CLIP: The Lost World raw session inserts - 5 min - CLIP: Amazing Stories End Titles (components + full mix) - 4 min - CLIP: CE3K Wild Choir Sweeteners - 5 min - CLIP: E.T. Bike Chase Take 1 session - 4 min - CLIP: Harry Potter Fluffy’s Harp rehearsals - 10 min

I agree it's the most in need, but I think Unbreakable really would benefit from an expansion in chronological order, as well as a remastering because the album's sound quality leaves a lot to be desired. Yavar

And now 7m4

Yes, by now they're heading into manufacture for these titles. But one of the labels (might've been Intrada) said at one point that sometimes when they revealed stuff early, they started getting e-mails from people asking to pre-order. It probably boils down to: if they start revealing solid details earlier and earlier, it starts to turn into a scheduling mess and probably customer e-mailing mess when someone gets their grail and decides to try to purchase it early.

For those interested, I did a small suite of the main theme of the show, using the tracks Model City Duet, A Promise and then the climatic Sea of Flames. It's a really beautiful theme that appears only a couple of times through the show, plus the appearances in the Main Titles, but which makes a big emotional impact thanks to Howard's beautiful rendering of the theme, mainly for piano and violin. Enjoy!

Here’s the event running order which hopefully paints a picture. We aren’t going to mention the clips from Mike publicly, but I’m sure those who were there can private message each other. We never said to not talk about the event after the fact. “The first rule of TLOJW is to talk about TLOJW” 😁 - CLIP: Video Introduction - 6 min - Greetings and presentation of guests - JW in London: an historical overview - Remembering the Star Wars 1977 sessions with Eric and Hugh - CLIP: - Working with JW as orchestra musicians (Eric and Hugh) - CLIP: - Commentary - CLIP: The Fury "A-B Comparison" - JW on the scoring stage: how he works with the orchestra - CLIP: - Commentary / Audience Q&A INTERMISSION (10 min) - Dracula: an overview (Emilio) - CLIP: Dracula's Death film clip - 6 min - Commentary - Techniques of film score recording - CLIP: - Commentary - CLIP: - Commentary - CLIP: - Commentary / Audience Q&A - Final greetings and prize draw raffle sorting The prize draw contents (10 Universal Studios branded goody bags - thank you Dave Norris!) consisted of: JW scored 4K discs from UHE La La Land Records & Intrada JW albums Japanese imports of various JW albums DG Store exclusives of Blu-rays & Vinyls TLOJW T-shirts Elmer Bernstein Commemorative Programme with a personal note from JW The 2 star prize premium goody bags consisted of the above plus Taschen books, extra DG Store exclusives, the John T. Williams Jazz Beginnings album and a JW signed photo. IMG_5281.heic Seeing the new remaster of Jaws in Dolby Atmos with the proper 3D glasses was very memorable and a perfect end to the event. Both Eric & Hugh were particularly impressed! They hadn’t seen it since 1976! We had a diverse audience and some composers and conductors were in attendance. Plus our poster artist Paul Shipper (who kindly signed many of the deluxe prints everyone received), voice actor Marc Silk and producers from LA & London. Thank you once again for attending. It was so great to meet many new and old friends. The dinner afterwards was a cluster f@#k but it was a last minute change so couldn’t be helped. Food and service was good (Zizzi). It was a joy to host this with Maurizio and we hope to do more in the future. I love how people laughed at this, it actually was Jaws in 3D, not Jaws 3D!!!!! :-)

See James Bond Music page on Facebook on 2nd April 2021 :- The Moonraker myth started when the expanded CDs came out in 2003 and Lukas addressed the question of why Moonraker wasn't included. Basically tapes for Moonraker were not stored with the other tapes they were working with and there was no budget to go looking. Besides, the 5 scores to be expanded had already been determined. It got misquoted into the Moonraker tapes being lost and that became urban myth. People even started saying the tapes had been dumped by Davout, the Paris studio where Moonraker was recorded. However, these myths were based on a number of false presuppositions. First, for a major movie like Moonraker there is never just one set of tapes. There's just too much riding on it. It's very likely that both a master and backup copy were taken at the recording session, and then there may be other duplicates created for other purposes. Second, in order to get music into a film's soundtrack, you have to do more than just record it. You have to dub it. The dubbing happened in England. Jon's book The Music of James Bond confirms tapes were shipped to England for this purpose. There would have been no reason to send them back to Paris, since Davout is a recording facility, not a storage facility. Now, of course none of this proves the opposite, that there are accessible tapes, but several people who would know have assured us there are Moonraker tapes and they have been preserved digitally. So, basically, a misquotation plus some false assumptions and Chinese whispers equals urban myth.

The question is -- what John Williams score did he listen to? My bet is on JOHN GOLDFARB PLEASE COME HOME.

IIUC He was accused of sexual misconduct.

The Adventures of Han was conducted by Williams in LA with LA musicians The score was conducted by Gavin Greenaway in London

The initial pressings of the "Complete Recordings" releases contained the same musical program as the CDs on a bonus DVD-Audio disc in higher resolution & surround sound. Note that these were specifically the "DVD-Audio" format, meaning they wouldn't play in a standard DVD player. The reissues from 2018 replaced that DVD-Audio disc with a Blu Ray disc containing the same music in the same resolution instead. These discs do play in a standard Blu Ray player

The original soundtrack of The Patriot was released on Hollywood Records, owned by Disney, which hasn’t worked with La-La Land to date. Much likelier to be an Intrada release. But yes, it’d make for a fantastic 2-CD set!

“Even President Biden wants a Star Wars Expanded Box Set.”

I’ve always wondered why labels wouldn’t reveal their titles beforehand? It would only elevate the level of anticipation on behalf of the fans. “A 6-CD John Williams Star Wars Collection is coming this Black Friday!” We would be like Keanu: “Noo way!!” And LLL would be like Mr. Miyagi: “Hehehe…” If I knew that a SW or an Indy box set was coming, I would already stop eating.

Had a great time seeing this yesterday. Orchestra and film were great and there were lots of kids in the audience who probably have never seen it before based on the gasps and "oohhhh's" at certain scenes. The music must have been crazy difficult! On the same night, the LA Phil played E.T. live to picture with Johnny in the audience!!! He went on stage for a bow to thunderous ovation after. Just imagine Jurassic Park and E.T. live to picture in one day! 399024842_870077184559164_5150928013439168529_n.mp4

The full concert & discussion can be watched from here: https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/112249-000-A/eastwood-symphonic-une-affaire-de-famille/

Shipped. Karol

You think the labels would cancel one of their best selling composers?

Oh goodness yes! He wrote a buuuunch. Here's what Music Box has (they have put out so many): https://www.musicbox-records.com/fr/recherche?controller=search&s=bolling But one of his very best was released (twice) by Quartet Records: https://quartetrecords.com/product/the-awakening-2/ For me in this batch, a significant premiere expansion of Tess (Philippe Sarde) is the big news -- one of his most beloved scores! Yavar

Claude Bolling wrote film scores?! I only know him for his (fantastic) albums for jazz piano trio + [insert instrument].

1944.

What year?

Some people might not realize that I'm a Star Trek fan. If anything Wrath of Khan has become slightly underrated. Search For Spock is probably a more "mature" and subtle work and seems to get rated a little higher that TWOK for that reason. But then people also cite Stealing the Enterprise as the standout track. And it's amazing. But it gets it's clock cleaned by Genesis Countdown. Even without the whole section on Regula One and the in the Regula caves (which puts the score into a whole other crunchy scary gear) you have all of the big set pieces that Horner is just having so much FUN with. Or at least he's letting us have so much fun. And it all wraps up with Epilogue which is to this day one of my favorite Star Trek tracks of all time. OTOH on TSFS you have tracks like The Mind-Meld and Returning to Vulcan (LP version, thank you) and TSFS has a melancholy wistfulness that mostly wasn't called for in TWOK. The expansion gave us Sunset on Genesis and Genesis Destroyed which are standouts. I just think of them as one big score and then I don't choose.

I still adore that line. Every time I watch Smith and Gillan I can't help but think "They're both BALD!" The most understated regeneration. And probably my favorite. Tennant's is up there just because it's so amazing to go from crying at Tennant to cheering at Smith. Brilliant.

'Goodbye, raggedy man' would bring a tear to a glass eye. 'Kidneys! I've got new kidneys! I don't like the colour'. The last few posts have reminded me of the answer Moffat gave when asked at the 60th anniversary concert about writing the show ... 'You can have Matt doing TERRIBLE things, and then all he has to do is turn those puppy-dog eyes on you and you're 'Awww, you're forgiven'. Whereas I told the writers they could put in as many goofy jokes with Peter as they wanted ... but those eyebrows are always going to scare the crap out of you'.

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Oh, thanks. Now THAT will be stuck in my head all day. I was always rather charmed that this theme was the last that was played for 11.

I believe the main reason is that titles can fall through at any time, given studio shenanigans. Hence if they announced a title was coming and then something happened that made them unable to complete it, they'd get a lot of disappointed customers. I would ponder why there would't be some sort of legally binding thing at some point where the studio can't just row back and cancel a project, but maybe stuff like liners and artwork are done later in the process, and someone has to do the final signoff?

I hear it's not coming.

Thank you! Great suite.

I couldn't have said it better myself (certainly not in English, anyway ). I'm not a big fan of ranking things, but I thiiink this, Harry Potter and Amistad are my favourite John Williams-expansions so far.

Thank you, Simone.

Wow! Excellent overview! Too bad it was not all recorded for posterity!

You're certifiable, @Tallguy, you know that? YOU'RE CERTIFIABLE!

To quote the illustrious Captain Quint: Yeah yeah yeah yeah YEAH!

Yeah, apparently LLL does price clues. Very 2023.

Picture clues are a thing Varese does, not La La Land.

I’m casting a wide net. Surely at least one of the releases will be a fish I’m after!

Yes! More late 90s/early 2000s Horner expansions please!

Just as evidence as it not being AI here the two other videos I had her do, the second in a very thick German accent

No, millions of people had covid too, the last few years, and they also lost their taste. Kabooooooom! Deeestroyed

How is there still barely any commentary here about the event? I know people were asked not to share specifics about the talk, but there must be stories of the weekend as a whole that can be shared!

This score screams for an expanded release! So many great cues left out.

How JNH left some truly wonderful cues outside of The Village's OST is baffling, but even more headscratching is that it hasn't been expanded yet. I think that Defiance, A Hidden Life and now ATLWCS form a nice trilogy of scores. Defiance uses the violin to highlight the tragedy of the Holocaust (not unlike Williams' Schindler's List), A Hidden Life uses it to portray the idyllic life on the countryside that is destroyed by the lunacy of war and All the Light is a like a combo of both of these approaches.

"Les trois dents de la mer"

I'd sort of agree with Thor on that. I wouldn't say Hidden Life was anything astonishing, but taste wise it does a lot for me than Book Thief does. Is that based on the album or the complete score? The former is rearranged to an unnecessary extent, focusing a bit too much on the more tense, moody music, and less on some character stuff. Either way, I find the damp, Autumnal, mysterious sound rather appealing. Pretty much evokes the UK right about now.

That's pretty good:

No it didn't. I think the highest highs (and Hawkeye had some) were probably Falcon and the Winter Soldier. But I didn't like the show overall. I think all of the MCU-TV have at least 50% good stuff. They just either don't hold together or they aren't memorable. Heck, there was a lot of She-Hulk I liked a lot. Hawkeye wasn't the greatest but it was almost always good. Just do THAT.

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Throughout the years posting on JWFan I've found that there is a certain hierarchy of posting that always persists, with various members rotating in and out to fill out vacancies. Contrarian "voice of reason" posters, historians/compilers, funny guys, poll-makers, and goblins.