Popular Post Thor 7,504 Posted February 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2023 You ain't a proper JW fan if you ain't diggin' CINDERELLA LIBERTY, man! Omen II, Once, Bryant Burnette and 3 others 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 59 minutes ago, Thor said: You ain't a proper JW fan if you ain't diggin' CINDERELLA LIBERTY, man! The OST is enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Sure is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Well then reissue it so I can buy it! Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 ”Cinderella stay awhile, you’re the one that I’ve been looking for…” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 I love Cinderella Liberty but I'd much rather have a significant expansion in terms of unreleased music, such as The Patriot or Nixon. I'm surprised no one has brought up Born on the Fourth of July as a possible candidate for this particular release. BrotherSound and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,242 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said: I'm surprised no one has brought up Born on the Fourth of July as a possible candidate for this particular release. That'd be a solid choice too, if not as potentially revelatory as Nixon or (especially) The Patriot. Very unusually for Williams, there's a lot of literally note-for-note repetition throughout the score that I'll be curious to see how Matessino handles. It's one that may call for something significantly different from a C&C style presentation. crumbs and 1977 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,284 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 1 hour ago, JTWfan77 said: I love Cinderella Liberty but I'd much rather have a significant expansion in terms of unreleased music, such as The Patriot or Nixon. I'm surprised no one has brought up Born on the Fourth of July as a possible candidate for this particular release. There’s a BOTFOJ* boot which I believe has the full score and which doesn’t really offer anything revelatory from the OST but the sound on both could do with an audible polish. Also JFK although I don’t know how much is missing there and in need of an sonic upgrade even more than BOTFOJ. *alongside TWATL, my favourite film title acronym… the prize of a thumbs up if you guess what it stands for. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 21 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said: There’s a BOTFOJ* boot which I believe has the full score and which doesn’t really offer anything revelatory from the OST but the sound on both could do with an audible polish. Also JFK although I don’t know how much is missing there and in need of an sonic upgrade even more than BOTFOJ. *alongside TWATL, my favourite film title acronym… the prize of a thumbs up if you guess what it stands for. Born on the Fourth of July and The Wind and the Lion? Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,284 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, Clockwork Angel said: Born on the Fourth of July and The Wind and the Lion? You win the prize ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 32 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said: There’s a BOTFOJ* boot which I believe has the full score and which doesn’t really offer anything revelatory from the OST but the sound on both could do with an audible polish So this and The Terminal are about on par in terms of offering notable new material, you could say? It could be argued that there are some Williams scores that don't actually need expanding in the usual sense, but would benefit from simply being presented in their proper order, remastered sound and any unreleased bits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 12 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said: There’s a BOTFOJ* boot which I believe has the full score and which doesn’t really offer anything revelatory from the OST but the sound on both could do with an audible polish. The additional tracks on that unmentionable most definitely need to be upgraded sonically. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,013 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 On 13/02/2023 at 10:09 PM, Tom Guernsey said: There’s a BOTFOJ* boot which I believe has the full score and which doesn’t really offer anything revelatory from the OST but the sound on both could do with an audible polish. Also JFK although I don’t know how much is missing there and in need of an sonic upgrade even more than BOTFOJ. *alongside TWATL, my favourite film title acronym… the prize of a thumbs up if you guess what it stands for. Which reminds me of my favourite track title of all time...track 4 from Dario Marianelli's Atonement. Very clever. 😄 Karol Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 So, when's this Williams title coming, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BrotherSound 2,242 Posted February 15, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 15, 2023 @Naïve Old Fart Yavar Moradi, crlbrg, mrbellamy and 7 others 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 34 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: So, when's this Williams title coming, then? 31 December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 On 07/02/2023 at 7:33 AM, Jay said: What bums me out more are the scores JW's done for which it seems the original scoring elements no longer exist on this earth. Azkaban Wait, what? Where did the LLL complete expansion come from? It boggles my mind if the most recent Williams Harry Potter score has elements missing... Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Just watch the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,364 Posted February 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said: Wait, what? Where did the LLL complete expansion come from? It boggles my mind if the most recent Williams Harry Potter score has elements missing... Yavar The LLL album was sourced from the music editor's digital archive of 5.1 film mixes, which sound brilliant and have no issues. But it doesn't contain every cue recorded for the project. I couldn't tell you where the 1st gen analog tapes that captured every take of every cue ended up >shrug< Yavar Moradi, Manakin Skywalker, BrotherSound and 2 others 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 So it’s complete in terms of what made it into the film, but not complete in terms of what was recorded for the film? Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,456 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 This is what I understood. Besides the infamous Shawn cue, what is missing is actually early versions of takes that ultimately didn't make the final cut. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,364 Posted February 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2023 56 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: So it’s complete in terms of what made it into the film, but not complete in terms of what was recorded for the film? Yavar 40 minutes ago, Edmilson said: This is what I understood. Besides the infamous Shawn cue, what is missing is actually early versions of takes that ultimately didn't make the final cut. Right? On 05/02/2023 at 10:28 AM, Jay said: There's 3 things you can hear in the film that are not on the set. 3 very minor, very short things. 1st up is "Shawm", a source music cue you can hear from 0:00-1:06 in this video (the score cue it overlaps with, heard from 0:44-end of the video, IS on the set) Next up is a very short drum & tambourine passage that I can't find on youtube, but it plays after the Buckbeak scene and before the ghost knights bust through the stained glass window And finally is a difference performance of the "Sir Cadogan" cue, where it was played at a slower tempo and there was drum and tambourine playing along with it. You can hear it from 0:00-0:19 of this video And then there is one piece of music that appeared in DVD bonus features but not the OST, LLL, or the film itself: The original version of "Marge Points The Finger", which got replaced by a revision in the film, and that revision is what's on the LLL set. The original version is heard from 1:20-1:28 of this video That's literally it in terms what what we know was recorded. As for what might have been recorded, but we have no evidence of? Well, there are at least SEVENTEEN things found in the sheet music that we don't have recordings of. You can see them all listed out in my google doc, at the bottom of the "Complete Cue List" tab https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R7JM5QmRNh6PbgqeBH_lbj2C3WLbzxz9px3Z7GKLaAk/ You will also find links in that section to videos in which mockups of those exclusive sheet music passages are synced to film footage On 05/02/2023 at 12:42 PM, Holko said: There's also the extra piece of choir at the end of Apparition on the Train (might be synth from the editors), the film version descending harpsichord accent at the opening of Befriending the Hippogriff, the film mix opening of Time Past with the ticking starting later, extra strings and differently placed reverse overlay... Edmilson, enderdrag64 and Yavar Moradi 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,456 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 IMHO, the things that appear in the movie and not on OST/LLL are mostly minor stuff. Sure, if they appear someday so that an improved version of the album can be released, great. Otherwise, I'm honestly more interested in the seventeen things that aren't neither on the movie or the albums, but not exactly "losing my sleep" around it. Jurassic Shark, Yavar Moradi and enderdrag64 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 1977 1,743 Posted April 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2023 Well we now know this isn't Sabrina. I'm hoping for The Patriot. BrotherSound, Richard Penna and Edmilson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,316 Posted April 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2023 6 hours ago, JTWfan77 said: Well we now know this isn't Sabrina. I'm hoping for The Patriot. Patriot or Nixon please! Mostly because the other labels can't touch those scores, only Intrada. Trope, Edmilson, filmmusic and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 4 hours ago, crumbs said: Patriot or Nixon please! Mostly because the other labels can't touch those scores, only Intrada. A little Star Wars expansion per month wouldn't hurt either enderdrag64 and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 I suppose they wont announce it next week so we can pair it with sabrina…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 Yes please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schilkeman 964 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 On 7/2/2023 at 2:42 PM, King Mark said: Your officially the only JWfan that likes it that much! I did an entire track by track listening analysis with my family on this score. It’s delightful, and I like just as much. I would love to be able to get a hold of the expansion for a reasonable amount of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 I'm still hoping for an expanded Born On The Fourth Of July release one day. Bryant Burnette and blondheim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Incanus 5,715 Posted April 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Sandor said: I'm still hoping for an expanded Born On The Fourth Of July release one day. I would love a release or releases of the whole John Williams/Oliver Stone "trilogy", Born on the Fourth of July, JFK and Nixon. Andy, Bryant Burnette, Edmilson and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 14 minutes ago, Incanus said: I would love a release or releases of the whole John Williams/Oliver Stone "trilogy", Born on the Fourth of July, JFK and Nixon. Yes! Even better! blondheim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 14 minutes ago, Incanus said: I would love a release or releases of the whole John Williams/Oliver Stone "trilogy", Born on the Fourth of July, JFK and Nixon. yes! That would be great to save on shipping! 3x1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,284 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 34 minutes ago, Incanus said: I would love a release or releases of the whole John Williams/Oliver Stone "trilogy", Born on the Fourth of July, JFK and Nixon. I believe it's one of those "won't happen/studio bollocks reasons" situations but stranger things have happened... but it does seem like such an obvious set otherwise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 8 hours ago, Incanus said: I would love a release or releases of the whole John Williams/Oliver Stone "trilogy", Born on the Fourth of July, JFK and Nixon. Any Stone/Williams release seems to be postponed forever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bounty95 558 Posted April 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2023 Quote our friend Mike Matessino buried in a couple of upcoming Intrada releases by some composer named John Williams "a couple" https://store.intrada.com/s.nl/sc.13/category.60330/.f Edmilson, 1977, Yavar Moradi and 5 others 4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 May 4th SW releases confirmed! JOKE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 1,863 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 21 minutes ago, Bounty95 said: "a couple" https://store.intrada.com/s.nl/sc.13/category.60330/.f That_Bloke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounty95 558 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 The real question is: Does "a couple" strictly mean two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,364 Posted April 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2023 When has "a couple" ever meant anything besides "two"? A. A. Ron, blondheim, Brando and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted April 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2023 Two boxsets! 😘 Andy, Bayesian, ciarlese and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted April 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jay said: When has "a couple" ever meant anything besides "two"? https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/a-couple-of Quote a couple of in American English more than two, but not many, of; a small number of; a few It will take a couple of days for the package to get there pete, Brando, GerateWohl and 3 others 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 7,456 Posted April 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2023 T H E P A T R I O T Indianagirl, Dr. Rick and GerateWohl 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 1,863 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 4 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/a-couple-of That definition is strange cause that’s what “a few” is defined as Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 907 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Brando said: That definition is strange cause that’s what “a few” is defined as I think it's used because there's uncertainty - the package will arrive in a couple of days, so it could be longer. As in "I'll be back in a couple of minutes" - it doesn't literally mean two minutes. But yeah Doug would know exactly how many Williams releases Mike is working on for Intrada. So two for certain. He wouldn't say a couple if there were three. Yavar Moradi and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Or he said a couple because he means it as uncertain because he doesn't want to say. We know how often approvals and shit kill releases for not only months but years. That's how I took it at least. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,369 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 3 hours ago, pete said: He wouldn't say a couple if there were three. Why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 907 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: Why is that? Just clear English. There's no reason to think a couple in this case means anything other than two. Mike's currently working on two Williams releases for Intrada. This is a hill I will die on! GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,369 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 15 minutes ago, pete said: Just clear English. There's no reason to think a couple in this case means anything other than two. Mike's currently working on two Williams releases for Intrada. This is a hill I will die on! Interesting. In German it depends on how you spell it. "ein Paar Dinge" means "one couple of things". "ein paar Dinge" means "a few things". Of course you don't hear it, if somebody just speaks it. So that means, if someone says "This will happen in a couple of days." it means exactly "This will happen in two days." I didn't know that. Thank you. Bounty95 and pete 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 A couple definitely means two or more to me. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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