Popular Post Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted March 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2018 Quote The Juilliard School announced today that it has received a bequest from Academy Award-winning composer and conductor John Williams of his complete library of concert music and film music scores as well as his sketchbooks. Mr. Williams, who studied piano with longtime Juilliard faculty member Rosina Lhévinne, announced the gift at a special alumni event held in Los Angeles at the Four Seasons Beverly Hills, where Mr. Williams was also presented with a President’s Medal by Juilliard President Joseph W. Polisi. http://slippedisc.com/2018/03/just-in-john-williams-leaves-all-his-scores-to-juilliard/ Taikomochi, Jurassic Shark, Mari and 9 others 9 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 hmmm, when you start giving away your most precious possessions it's not a good sign Will, fililando, Darth Mulder and 3 others 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,658 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 It is the same "sign" as being 86 years old. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Breadstick Basilisk 108 Posted March 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2018 The comments on that article are cancer. I can't stand snobs who feel the need to bring out the age-old "copying" accusation every time they see Williams' name mentioned. fililando, Taikomochi, Joni Wiljami and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Good. No mess ups with the will. Nothing wrong with a little planning. Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted March 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2018 Wonderfully classy move from Mr. Williams. Taikomochi, John, Cerebral Cortex and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Breadstick Basilisk said: The comments on that article are cancer. I can't stand snobs that can't handle the mention of Williams' name without feeling the need to accuse him of "copying". And that's why he's decided to travel all the way to London to give a concert there for the first time in twenty years, surely... Also, he obviously didn't do it out of the blue, but on the occasion of being awarded that medal thingy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 I've read this news earlier. So, i don't understand here. he won't have ANY copy of his work at his house? let's say he wants to revisit or look something at a score.. By the way, how lucky those Juilliard students! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Does that mean that Juilliard owns everything now? Does this mean we might see the cue sheets being released to the public to study? Just now, filmmusic said: I've read this news earlier. So, i don't understand here. he won't have ANY copy of his work at his house? let's say he wants to revisit or look something at a score.. I imagine that he knows a lot of his music by heart. When I saw him conduct The Imperial March at a concert, he didn't even open the score book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 They certainly won't now own what is technically the property of many different film studios, no. They will be available to whatever public walks into the library/archives, same with materials at USC or UCLA. I shouldn't presume though. They could institute some ridiculous policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, filmmusic said: I've read this news earlier. So, i don't understand here. he won't have ANY copy of his work at his house? let's say he wants to revisit or look something at a score.. I wouldn't necessarily expect the donation to be instant. And I imagine he could still access easily access the scores if he wants to. Also, it means that anyone interested in doing a restoration of Jane Eyre or Dracula could probably get access to any remaining materials Williams may have retained at Juilliard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 John Williams' personality makes me want to cry at how much I adore him. zoltan_902 and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 that makes me wonder then, if there are some conditions in this donation. eg. that the donation of the scores will take place after his death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, filmmusic said: that makes me wonder then, if there are some conditions in this donation. eg. that the donation of the scores will take place after his death. That wouldn't be unusual, but the article might have mentioned it (unless Williams also announced plans to drop dead right away). DolceMecha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: That wouldn't be unusual, but the article might have mentioned it (unless Williams also announced plans to drop dead right away). I'm not sure such a morbid thing would be mentioned.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ocelot 508 Posted March 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2018 How fabulous is this! I think he is donating his originals, he will keep the copies of all of them in his own library. I mean they are on paper, they can be scanned so he can have copies Also for all those idiots writing shit about him. Please! They can be as bitchy as they like. The guy has made a shit ton of money and done so doing what he loves. And BTW, when I was at Trinity College of Music in London studying post grad composition, they complained not only about Williams, but about Puccini, Rachmaninoff, Tchaikovsky, etc etc. Anyone who wasn't innovative or ahead of their time. I got sent out of the class one time because I argues the professor to death. He had "written" a piece called musical chairs in which any number of players would sit in a circle. One person would play something randomly and you would see how it changes as it goes around the players. So I said "I'm sorry, you want to complain about Tchaikovsky and Williams when you didn't even write a note and you call this a composition? You can't even write a toenail's worth of music of any of the composers you all like to complain about, Get a life!" It's all jealousy in the end. This man will be forever in the history books while many of his contemporaries, and pretty much all of the people who complain about him will be forgotten. stravinsky, crumbs, Holko and 7 others 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SteveMc 2,674 Posted March 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2018 A classic and monumental move by Williams. The vast wealth of technique, approach and genius now available to students, conductors and aspiring composers is fantastic and historic. I sort of expected him to do something like this eventually. It happening now is a sobering reminder that we must relish what he is still able to contribute musically while we can. crumbs, Marcus and ocelot 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, Steve McQueen said: The vast wealth of technique, approach and genius now available only to students, conductors and aspiring composers of the specific school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 53 minutes ago, TGP said: They will be available to whatever public walks into the library/archives, same with materials at USC or UCLA. I shouldn't presume though. They could institute some ridiculous policy. So you may be right, or you may be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: http://slippedisc.com/2018/03/just-in-john-williams-leaves-all-his-scores-to-juilliard/ Here's the original source with the full article: https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/John-Williams-to-Bequeath-Concert-and-Film-Scores-to-Juilliard-20180306 Quote Juilliard's vice president for library and information resources, Jane Gottlieb, said: "The John Williams Music Collection will be an extraordinary resource for scholars, students, and all who are interested in understanding his career as a composer and conductor. The John Williams Music Collection will be part of the Peter Jay Sharp Special Collections and Juilliard School Archives, which also include the Jennie Tourel, Soulima Stravinsky, and many other notable collections. The Special Collections are housed in the school's Lila Acheson Wallace Library. In appreciation of all of these generous donations, Juilliard exhibits materials from these collections on a regular basis. Marian Schedenig and ocelot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 It's stuff like this that make you admire a man like Williams even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 What a lovely gesture. A real class act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 hour ago, filmmusic said: I'm not sure such a morbid thing would be mentioned.. Why not? He's 86 years old, for crying out loud, and he's far nearer to the end of his life, than he is to the beginning. Has JWfan become a web site for snowflakes? How we deal with death is at least as important as how we deal with life, wouldn't you say? Now you have something new, to think about. Carry on. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 13 minutes ago, Richard said: Why not? He's 86 years old, for crying out loud, and he's far nearer to the end of his life, than he is to the beginning. Has JWfan become a web site for snowflakes? How we deal with death is at least as important as how we deal with life, wouldn't you say? Now you have something new, to think about. Carry on. I didn't say anything about jwfan. I meant the writers of the article wouldn't mention something like this. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 685 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I hope this access to the scores will finally debunk the idea that ‘Williams doesn’t really write his music all by himself’ which I still often hear in the academic music world. ocelot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 This is really great. So we know for sure that the scores will survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 23 minutes ago, filmmusic said: I didn't say anything about jwfan. I meant the writers of the article wouldn't mention something like this. In that case...apologies, etc. Ps, snowflakes suck! filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jediwashington 59 Posted March 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 7, 2018 I work in legacy fundraising/development in the orchestra sector (Basically... being in peoples last wills). A "bequest" is a portion of the last will that is conditional upon death. As he has likely had a will for some time, he probably gave them the library a long time ago, but simply hasn't announced until they gave him this award. I'm sure their development department wanted to announce it as part of the event to make sure it got press. But basically, they won't get it until he passes. It's important to save space for it though and be prepared; especially with the volume of work he has. It probably exceeds many of the great european composers in output and I'm expecting a ton of unreleased compositions he wrote out of boredom or scrapped projects. As Williams is quite the philanthropist, I'm not surprised, but also also very pleased that he recognizes that his works should be preserved properly. They'll likely be accessible by everyone barring any copyrights - though he may have released all the rights he owns in the bequest as well; which would be unprecedented. It's likely that his estate will continue collecting royalties for decades. Julliard will have the original manuscripts to study though and will hopefully scan most of them before they start degrading (I imagine some are in poor shape already) and any one who has access to any university library should be able to access. That's how most are done. The original manuscripts are often less controlled than the final stuff owned by Hal Leonard, etc. The hard part is cataloging them all, which will take a number of years, but Williams is said to be meticulously organized, so that should make things easier. fililando, Taikomochi, aviazn and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Loert 2,511 Posted March 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 7, 2018 I like to imagine this will be every composition professor reading the JW collection... Darth Mulder, Ludwig, Smeltington and 3 others 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,109 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I hope this will mean that some of his unreleased music will get to be performed in concert. Also can a complete DRACULA be rerecorded easily once it becomes Juliards property? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 7, 2018 4 hours ago, King Mark said: hmmm, when you start giving away your most precious possessions it's not a good sign Hopefully next he'll donate all his unreleased music to the John Williams Fan Network. Manakin Skywalker, John, Drew and 4 others 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Manakin Skywalker 4,894 Posted March 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 7, 2018 "Okay guys here's the recording sessions for every film I've ever composed in lossless 192khz 24-bit FLAC!" Chewy, enderdrag64, Once and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 No revisits of Episodes I-VI for Episode IX confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Wow. I can just picture him walking in and dumping a huge pile on a desk. WUMP!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter.anschutz 43 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Well as an archivist-in-training, I guess I know where to keep my eyes peeled for job openings. ocelot and Jediwashington 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelot 508 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Remco said: I hope this access to the scores will finally debunk the idea that ‘Williams doesn’t really write his music all by himself’ which I still often hear in the academic music world. LOL, that is laughably not true heh 3 minutes ago, peter.anschutz said: Well as an archivist-in-training, I guess I know where to keep my eyes peeled for job openings. Hi my name's Wael..... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 6 hours ago, TGP said: Wonderfully classy move from Mr. Williams. Leaving it with an exclusive private corporation? Whatever. Go look at what Aaron Copland left at the Library of Congress, accessible to any peasant on the planet now that it’s being digitized. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 29 minutes ago, Blumenkohl said: Leaving it with an exclusive private corporation? Whatever. Go look at what Aaron Copland left at the Library of Congress, accessible to any peasant on the planet now that it’s being digitized. A fair point and example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 2 hours ago, ocelot said: LOL, that is laughably not true heh Hi my name's Wael..... lol Wael likes his pie makers. (What a small world! It's me, Adervae, LOL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 5 hours ago, KK said: What a lovely gesture. He really is a class act. Indeed. I might even venture to say verily indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: "Okay guys here's the recording sessions for every film I've ever composed in lossless 192khz 24-bit FLAC!" "Will that work out for you guys? I don't want to mistakenly give you something you don't want. Can anyone confirm that they actually want those raw recordings that weren't micro-edited by me and my teams?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Though 'all his scores' might be a relative term. I once looked up Goldsmith's scores on the Margaret Herrick Library and they were certainly there but sometimes only 5 or 6 cues from a single score. Certainly not comparable to a 38-cue bootleg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fililando 19 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Do you think the scores will be available for Juillard students only? Or digitalized to accomodate Non-U.S. students? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelot 508 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 5 hours ago, Drew said: Wael likes his pie makers. (What a small world! It's me, Adervae, LOL) lol hi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 It could be a complete different Wael! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Awesome gesture. Would be great if this, in turn, led to the availability of some of his unreleased scores (particularly STORIA DI UNNA DONNA), which would then be used for recordings. But I'm guessing there's a clause of some kind which says they're only available for study, not to be used for recordings. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 It's a great gift, especially for future music students and scholars. In recent years, JAKMS had many of his scores and sketches digitized for archival purposes, but it's great to know all of his manuscripts and sketchbooks will be archived (and I hope also catalogued) in one same place. I'm sure all the material will be eventually digitized too for a more convenient perusal. 4 hours ago, publicist said: Though 'all his scores' might be a relative term. I once looked up Goldsmith's scores on the Margaret Herrick Library and they were certainly there but sometimes only 5 or 6 cues from a single score. Certainly not comparable to a 38-cue bootleg. I think that's because that was all the material that was available to donate. Keep in mind that most film composers (especially in the early days) saw their work as pure gebrauschmusik, so it's likely JW and Goldsmith didn't think it was necessary or convenient to save all their sketches for archival purposes. Lots of their early material is likely to be lost. Williams once said in an interview that his own attic where he stores material is "a huge clutter" (I'm sure he has people who help him archiving stuff, btw). Also, there's the problem of copyrights and property, as music written for any film is property of the studio or company that owns the film's rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 15 hours ago, King Mark said: hmmm, when you start giving away your most precious possessions it's not a good sign It could also just mean that he's taking charge of his own legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 10 hours ago, Jerry said: Wow. I can just picture him walking in and dumping a huge pile on a desk. WUMP!!!! Hmm. Into coprophilia, are you, Jerry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 386 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 4 hours ago, fililando said: Do you think the scores will be available for Juillard students only? Or digitalized to accomodate Non-U.S. students? It would be nice if it was digitized that way. For now, any item in that library is available to students, and outsiders by appointment only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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