#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Koray Savas said: but news is news. But is it #FakeNews? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post publicist 4,643 Posted December 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2018 Gee, i don't need any kind of 'trustworthy source' to confirm the retirement plans of a man almost 90. Brónach, Gruesome Son of a Bitch, bollemanneke and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick Parker 3,040 Posted December 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Koray Savas said: Sorry, but anonymous sources are an actual thing in journalism and it isn’t wrong at all to use them. You're absolutely right, of course, but in this circumstance? We ain't talkin' about the Pentagon Papers, this story just reeks. So this anonymous associate of John Williams heard him talk by the coffee dispenser and thought, "Damn, I need to leak this important news to someone...a Harry Potter fan site, that's it! They're the only ones I can trust." And then this website is a little chubby cherub wanting to put its fingers in the lemon pie, eager to shout "Hey everybody, exclusive news!...But I did, I did taw a John Willums wetiuh!" I'm the kind of person who doesn't reject this stuff out of hand, so I always grant more than 0% of this being legitimate, but nothing here adds up. Timo Martikainen, pete and Will 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Remco 685 Posted December 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2018 ’Resume touring schedule’?! They don’t know what they’re talking about. I can’t take this seriously. The most logical thing is that JW, after Ep IX, will just sign on with whatever he feels like doing and is comfortable to work with, without committing himself to long-term projects. Will, crumbs and SteveMc 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,080 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 12 hours ago, artguy360 said: I could see him retiring from film composing after Ep 9 and then just composing occasionally for the concert hall. Then he'll make a return to film scoring in 2030 for Indy 5. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 JW still needs to do Episode IX, Indy 5, and whatever miscellaneous projects Spielberg might be working on in between, including WSS! Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick Parker 3,040 Posted December 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2018 46 minutes ago, Remco said: The most logical thing is that JW, after Ep IX, will just sign on with whatever he feels like doing and is comfortable to work with, without committing himself to long-term projects Which has basically been what he's done for over ten years now. Chen G., toothless, crumbs and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 685 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: Which has basically been what he's done for over ten years now. True, although he did sort of commit himself to the sequel trilogy in 2013. We’ll never see anything like that anymore I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,287 Posted December 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2018 Truth is most of us have been considering each new score could be the last for years. Five years ago even the idea that he’d do a seventh Star Wars seemed too good to be true and if he actually managed to do an entire new trilogy I knew I’d pretty much pass out. If I’m listening to an Episode IX album by John Williams this time next year...I mean, he can do whatever he wants. rpvee, crumbs and Brónach 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Loert 2,515 Posted December 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2018 19 hours ago, TownerFan said: Writing music for JW is like breathing and eating, so the man won’t put the pencil down until something will force him to do so. Perhaps he will turn towards dictation. JW: "JJ baby, would you kindly put a fortissimo 2nd inversion B/GbM7#5 on beat two with an Eb whole-step/half-step octatonic scale in the-..." JJ: "Wait, WHAT?" Chewy, Datameister, Bayesian and 5 others 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Nick Parker said: You're absolutely right, of course, but in this circumstance? We ain't talkin' about the Pentagon Papers, this story just reeks. So this anonymous associate of John Williams heard him talk by the coffee dispenser and thought, "Damn, I need to leak this important news to someone...a Harry Potter fan site, that's it! They're the only ones I can trust." And then this website is a little chubby cherub wanting to put its fingers in the lemon pie, eager to shout "Hey everybody, exclusive news!...But I did, I did taw a John Willums wetiuh!" I'm the kind of person who doesn't reject this stuff out of hand, so I always grant more than 0% of this being legitimate, but nothing here adds up. Why does it reek? This board will eat up any rumor about a soundtrack release but this is crossing the line? Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 46 minutes ago, Loert said: Perhaps he will turn towards dictation. JW: "JJ baby, would you kindly put a fortissimo 2nd inversion B/GbM7#5 on beat two with an Eb whole-step/half-step octatonic scale in the-..." JJ: "Wait, WHAT?" Hey, maybe then JJ wouldn't tinker with the film so much! 4 minutes ago, Koray Savas said: Why does it reek? This board will eat up any rumor about a soundtrack release but this is crossing the line? I already explained why. None of that strikes you as suspect? I don't really pay attention to release rumors (I've purchased five albums from specialty labels in total), and I don't understand why that's relevant to the point at hand...although yes, I would say an "exclusive", "confirmed" rumor of a legendary composer's total retirement from his loved profession is on a different level than JFK or some James Horner cartoon score getting a special edition release or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 3 hours ago, publicist said: Gee, i don't need any kind of 'trustworthy source' to confirm the retirement plans of a man almost 90. This! Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpvee 805 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 I could see him retiring from conducting. His Tanglewood concert has already been scheduled for next year, and all he’ll be doing is speaking (and that may be only the introduction). Makes me concerned for the Boston concerts in May/June. It’d be great to see him in person again regardless, but to not see him conduct again would be a shame. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 21 hours ago, bollemanneke said: Guys, he's 86 years old. He has to stop composing one day, it's just fair and logical. He will stop composing when he starts to decompose bollemanneke and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 John Williams will only retire after Ruth Bader Ginsberg. So another 6 years or so, I'd say. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p0llux 398 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 #fakenews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Since this is Ricard’s website, I take this post a bit more seriously than I would if any of the other members, outside of Jason, posted it. He’s 86, he’s earned the right to walk away. He’s not superhuman. He could live well into his 100’s for all we know but age takes its toll. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,206 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 27 minutes ago, El Jefe said: He’s not superhuman. Hey, no need for insults! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pete 907 Posted December 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 hour ago, El Jefe said: He’s 86, he’s earned the right to walk away. Sure, he's earned the right to do anything he wants. But why would he walk away from something he loves doing after saying numerous times he wouldn't? Holko, Will, MikeH and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JohnnyD 1,223 Posted December 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2018 Like I said, this rumor from this post is BS. If there is official confirmation from an official source, that is one thing. All evidence points to the contrary to this “rumor,” and all evidence comes from the words of the man himself. I rest my case. Will, Timo Martikainen, Chewy and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 e ic♥️ Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted December 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2018 10 hours ago, publicist said: Gee, i don't need any kind of 'trustworthy source' to confirm the retirement plans of a man almost 90. Yes and as others have said I think it would obviously apply to his film work only unless there is some physical impediment to his continuing at all. For any concerned or saddened at the idea I have lately discovered the profound importance in valuing the simple existence of a thing rather than its permanence or impermanence. A simple lesson but one which many of us still need to learn the hard way it seems. DarthDementous, Cerebral Cortex and Will 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 31 minutes ago, TGP said: Yes and as others have said I think it would obviously apply to his film work only unless there is some physical impediment to his continuing at all. For any concerned or saddened at the idea I have lately discovered the profound importance in valuing the simple existence of a thing rather than its permanence or impermanence. A simple lesson but one which many of us still need to learn the hard way it seems. Wayne Shorter told me once, "Keep your eyes on the constant and not on the temporary". John Williams, over the decades, has carved a river of music that shall always flow, this I believe with absolute conviction. There's so much to draw from, explore, and redefine, I think we'll be alright. Bryant Burnette and Chen G. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 3 hours ago, TGP said: For any concerned or saddened at the idea I have lately discovered the profound importance in valuing the simple existence of a thing rather than its permanence or impermanence. Carpe Diem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 5 hours ago, TGP said: Yes and as others have said I think it would obviously apply to his film work only unless there is some physical impediment to his continuing at all. For any concerned or saddened at the idea I have lately discovered the profound importance in valuing the simple existence of a thing rather than its permanence or impermanence. A simple lesson but one which many of us still need to learn the hard way it seems. But is he doing Indana Jones and star Wars sequels!?! 😱😰 Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 40 minutes ago, publicist said: But is he doing Indana Jones and star Wars sequels!?! 😱😰 Surely its what he still finds fullfilling, to write in that expansive, evokative mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTenma 116 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 I don't trust the rumor it seems more likely that they have misinterpreted Williams' declarations regarding his retire from 'Star Wars'. I think he will continue working with Spielberg for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ricard 2,245 Posted December 24, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2018 A couple of clarifications seem to be in order here, it seems. 1) Rumor = Officially unconfirmed. Always. Not news. Not fake news. Just rumor. No JWFan Main Page or any of its social media news feeds. 2) Twitter post from HPANA (27,000 followers) reporting that rumor as if it was confirmed news = needs to be addressed and it definitely has a place on this forum (which, contrary to what some may think, is not a news feed, but a discussion forum). And no need for personal attacks regarding this. I asked Jeff from HPANA if he wants to join this conversation. Waiting for his reply. Will, crumbs, Joni Wiljami and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick Parker 3,040 Posted December 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Ricard said: Twitter post from HPANA (27,000 followers) reporting that rumor as if it was confirmed news Frankly though, that's the part that's most upsetting to me. I'm not saying these guys are deliberately trying to put one over people, but I hope they would have enough self-awareness to see from a lot of people's perspective how disingenuous and opportunistic it looks to post such a thing from their platform, with the gall to use words such as "confirmed" explicitly in their post. Score, MikeH and Bryant Burnette 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 As others have mentioned, this rumor conflicts with what Williams has stated many times in the past in regards to retiring. If this rumor was related to a health issue, then its certainly understandable. However, it doesn't seem to be related to any health issues since he still plans to do IX (as far as we know) which will not be an easy feat with Abrams in charge and because of the short schedule if he isn't able to start writing until next spring. I believe he also confirmed doing Indy 5 unless if something has changed since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarding News 7 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 On 12/23/2018 at 11:26 AM, Remco said: ’Resume touring schedule’?! They don’t know what they’re talking about. I can’t take this seriously. The most logical thing is that JW, after Ep IX, will just sign on with whatever he feels like doing and is comfortable to work with, without committing himself to long-term projects. "Touring schedule" was a poor choice of words on my part. I meant to relay that he recovered quickly enough to resume his regular activities. An American playing the Royal Albert Hall qualifies as a tour stop, in my book, even though he had to cancel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 @Wizarding News so you are indeed this source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wizarding News 7 Posted December 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2018 7 hours ago, DrTenma said: I don't trust the rumor it seems more likely that they have misinterpreted Williams' declarations regarding his retire from 'Star Wars'. I think he will continue working with Spielberg for sure. I, too, initially thought this was just a rehash of JW's own proclamations that he would retire from Star Wars. But I reconfirmed with my source, and (ungendered pronoun 'they') said it was not just about Star Wars. I don't doubt that Williams will happily score Star Wars IX and Indy 5 if everything lines up, as is his announced plan. 10 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: @Wizarding News so you are indeed this source? I am Wizarding News, who reported on what the source told us, yes. A little background: We are one of the oldest Harry Potter fan sites on the internet (16 years now!). J.K. Rowling endorsed us as one her favorites, and we've reported exclusives before. (The biggest of which was breaking the story that Universal was developing the Wizarding World theme park all the way back in 2007.) On a personal level, I played trumpet myself for over 10 years, drum major'ed my school's marching band, and am a HUGE John Williams fan to boot. I would like nothing more for him to keep scoring films indefinitely. I'm very sorry if anyone was offended. The Illustrious Jerry, SteveMc, DrTenma and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Cool, but trusted or not I'd like to hear if from the maestro. Wizarding News 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarding News 7 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 This is interesting, and DID NOT come to pass: John Williams hopes to return for final 'Potter' https://hpana.com/news/20163 "In a lecture to fans recently, John Williams said "with confidence" that he thinks he will be back to score the final Harry Potter movie, according to a report." That "report," coincidentally, came from JWFan. So, we can't really even believe JW himself until he's able to sit down and do it... I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted December 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, Wizarding News said: This is interesting, and DID NOT come to pass: John Williams hopes to return for final 'Potter' https://hpana.com/news/20163 "In a lecture to fans recently, John Williams said "with confidence" that he thinks he will be back to score the final Harry Potter movie, according to a report." That "report," coincidentally, came from JWFan. So, we can't really even believe JW himself until he's able to sit down and do it... I guess? Now even me mum says JWFan's version of things don't add up, so what I'm really tryna say is...I believe ya. DarthDementous, Gruesome Son of a Bitch and Not Mr. Big 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,515 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Just relax, folks. Williams will keep on chuggin' untill he himself, or his official representatives, say otherwise. Andy and Bayesian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 On 12/23/2018 at 4:00 AM, King Mark said: I hope it's not true, it would be sad for all of us. Not for me. He should have officially retired years ago. He's nearly 90 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Munich should have been his last score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 He should surrender the Oscar he won for E.T and give it to any of Jerry Goldsmith's living relatives for Poltergeist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Sacrilege! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 I don’t understand a one of you. What’s the matter with ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 I don't believe there's any truth to this rumour, but even if it should turn out to be true (always a possibility), I find that I wouldn't feel devastated, or even angry. Just a sort of resigned melancholy for an era past, and immense gratitude for the music that JW gave us.... Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 16 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: I don’t understand a one of you. What’s the matter with ya? Williams, who is he? Is he a passenger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 You know I heard, the composer may retire. I've been asked to give you this small token of our appreciation. Courtesy of Mr. William Ross. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Horner's Dynamic Range said: Not for me. He should have officially retired years ago. He's nearly 90 years old. wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 He has very few remaining years. Let him spend it with his loved ones or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pete 907 Posted December 25, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 25, 2018 54 minutes ago, Horner's Dynamic Range said: He has very few remaining years. Let him spend it with his loved ones or whatever. I don't think anyone's begrudging Williams doing whatever he wants in his twilight years.The skepticism mainly comes from the contrast between Williams own statements that he simply loves writing music and will do it for as long as he's able. Of course he can keep tinkering at the piano and also spend time with his loved ones and pursue other interests. Safe to say he's been doing that for a while. And if true, what does "total retirement" mean for someone who has been writing music almost every day for close to 60 plus years? Retirement from scoring movies and conducting? Quite possible. Retirement from music totally - not writing anything at the piano? Unlikely, unless he's pretty much in a coma. Am curious to know the source. If true, I think he/she has broken a significant trust by revealing what would seem to have be a private conversation. Williams deserves better. And if false, Williams deserves better. Either way, if I were Williams or his management, I'd consider not working with that person again. SteveMc, Once and Will 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marian Schedenig 8,206 Posted December 25, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 25, 2018 7 hours ago, Wizarding News said: This is interesting, and DID NOT come to pass: Wasn't that in fact his desire though? If I remember correctly, word was that there were negotiations, but they wanted to record in London and Williams wanted to stay in the US. Entirely unofficial info, of course, so it may be wrong, and I don't even remember who I heard it from. Will, crumbs and Locrius 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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