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  1. I'm very happy to announce this. It's going to be special! Full press release: https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/2021/01/25/score-masters-announcement https://iftt.co.uk/news/ift-launches-score-masters/
    15 points
  2. The United State Marine Band (aka The President's Own) will perform selections of music by American composers, including John Williams, during the prelude of the Inauguration ceremony of President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris tomorrow, January 20, at the US Capitol. https://www.marineband.marines.mil/Portals/175/Docs/Presidential Inauguration 2021/2021 Inaugural Prelude Program.pdf
    10 points
  3. OK, here's a more serious answer: - His melodic gifts. - His ability and persistency to (almost) always have something interesting going on in his music, be it counterpoint, rhythmic patterns, harmonic changes and so on. - His ability to turn even mediocre ideas into good pieces through solid workmanship. -His sense of quality: at the point where some composers would have said that a piece is done, JW keeps working on it until he's got something both he and we find interesting.
    10 points
  4. Chen visits Disenchantment Land. Circa 2021. Forgive me.
    9 points
  5. Due out in March 2021: https://www.facebook.com/CityLightConcerts/posts/1029199370903587
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  6. I think I have a completely different opinion on his 2001-2005 output now than I did when it was happening I'm too young to have experienced a growth in Williams' sound leading up to this period; I discovered that film music was even a thing that people listened to outside their films late in 1993 or early in 1994 and from 1994-1997 started buying and experiencing William's biggest hits from 75-84, plus Jurassic Park, Schindler's List, and The Lost World. By 1997 I was in college and by 2001 I was graduated and enjoying my early 20s and probably spent the least amount of time list
    6 points
  7. Shostakovich, JW, and Mahler made me a composer. You have several challenges working against you though. Classical people hate that you are saying his symphonies are film scores without a film. Film score people hate that you are reducing the greatness of JW by saying he's doing the thing Shosti did. I frankly think they aren't that similar except that they are multi faceted composers who were people that embodied their time perfectly. Shostakovich belongs to the Russian tradition by way of Austria (Mahler) with heart on sleeves music of dissident BUT lived int he Soviet system which cen
    5 points
  8. From what I've been told, it's mostly regular published versions, but they obtained permission to record a few things that aren't publicly out, like Slave Children Parade from Temple of Doom and the main titles from The Adventures of Tintin.
    5 points
  9. I think this is most likely the segment you’re thinking of: There’s also a little bit of ROTJ session footage in this profile, including a bit from what I believe is Olympic Sound Studios, where they briefly relocated when Abbey Road was unavailable: That would certainly be amazing, but I think the chance of additional footage from nearly 40-year-old news segments turning up is pretty much nil. I believe there’s a slightly higher chance there may be some additional footage somewhere from the JW documentary shot during the
    5 points
  10. Off the top of my head, there is this article, which reports that he lists Shostakovich as an influence, along with Prokofiev and Stravinsky: http://www.jwfan.com/?p=4551 In general, I think the Shostakovich influence on JW's music is far less pronounced than Prokofiev's. Even in places where it's quite Shostakovich-ian, like parts of the Battles of Yavin and Hoth, it often seems to be more of a case of Shostakovich-being-channeled-through-Walton than direct inspiration. (Indeed, that interview emphasizes how William Walton occupies a privileged place in Williams's mind.)
    5 points
  11. It was listed as a live broadcast, so I couldn't get timestamps then. No problems now, though! American Journey: The Patriot:
    5 points
  12. The best thing that The Mouse could do, is to sell Lucasfilm back to Lucas (at a greatly reduced price, of course ), and let further Star Wars films be made by someone who actually knows what they are doing.
    5 points
  13. None of them do what ESB does better than ESB does it. It's a grandly bittersweet finale, followed by a brisk and exciting summation of all of the score's new major themes, all with minimal redundancy of material in the album setting. It's a powerhouse and I love it. But if you're looking for the fairytale-in-space feel, you can't beat ANH. It just feels like the perfect conclusion of what could have easily been a fun standalone space fantasy film. It's not super long, and the credits completely omit two of the score's most important themes, but boy, is it charming.
    5 points
  14. Isn't it amazing how much power and attention these guys are giving this guy?
    5 points
  15. Tom

    Why John Williams?

    No, I mean that his music grabs you when you first hear it, and also rewards you with repeat listens as it contains layers and layers of brilliance. It is a like a really, really attractive person who you then find has a truly engaging personality.
    5 points
  16. Also John Williams scored Harry Potter and Shostakovich is Harry Potter
    4 points
  17. 4 points
  18. Re: How familiar is JW with the greatest film composer who ever lived? With himself? Quite well, I suppose. Re: How familiar is JW with Shostakovich? Shostakovich was one of the Russian composers Williams has said a few times to have liked in his youth.
    4 points
  19. I love The Patriot! 1:00 - 2:00 is just some classic 90s style Williams action writing and then the final minute is so gorgeous. Classic track.
    4 points
  20. I also listened to somewhere between 6 and 700 scores this year - although if I'm being honest, it's closer to 6.
    4 points
  21. 4 points
  22. My favourite Matessino/LLL release of all time, and the release that supercharged my interest in Mike's career and his devotion to restoring and expanding Williams' catalog. This was a game-changer.
    4 points
  23. I like Gia's two JW scores. "As the Jurassic World Turns", although not on par with anything Williams did, is still one of the best cues Giacchino wrote in his career.
    4 points
  24. I've seen Jaws 2. Nah, you shouldn't.
    4 points
  25. The worst Jurassic Park sequel is better than the best Jaws sequel
    4 points
  26. 4 points
  27. OK I'm gonna start posting ones that aren't already on the site 1981 - Raiders of the Lost Ark 1 Raiders Of The Lost Ark (6:03) 12M2 End Credits Part 2 2 Flight From Peru (2:23) 2M2 Flight To Freedom 3 The Map Room: Dawn (3:55) 6M2 Discovering The Script 4 The Basket Game (4:47) 4M4/5M1 Escape In The Alleys [edited] 5 The Well Of The Souls (4:57) 0:00-2:48 = 7M1 The Floor That Moves [edited] 2:48-4:45 = 1M2 The Cave [edited] 4:45-end = 7M1 The Floor That Moves [again] 6 Desert Chase (7:41) 0:00-2:26
    4 points
  28. artguy360

    Why John Williams?

    I have a couple reasons for "why John Williams." I'll just name a few now and return to this topic in the future. 1. His music grabs you with its directness. JW has often said that film music needs to be direct and to the point in terms of communicating whatever it is trying to communicate to the audience because the music most often does not have the audience's full attention. 2. Even with that said, his music is very rewarding to listen to on its own. What I mean by this is that his music is rarely boring, always interesting to follow with my ear in a way that many ot
    4 points
  29. JW is really the Paul McCartney of film music. It's a true gift to be able to create such catchy melodies. The truth is that not all directors are confident enough to let the music play such an important 'character'(or role) in their movies. Some (bad) directors (like Riddley Scott) really want the music to be a "background" music. JW never did that. Since Jaws, everyone understood that. And it was confirmed with Star Wars. Music can be an essential part of a movie, it's OKAY, IT'S GREAT AND WE LOOOOOOVE THAT!!!! PS: But now, as film
    4 points
  30. Bayesian

    Why John Williams?

    I think we shouldn't overlook the good fortune JW has had to work with two directors (GL and SS) who were both great storytellers and willing to give JW enormous canvases (dozens of hours' worth) to work his magic on. For the most part, they both did the best thing you can do with that kind of genius -- which is to give him good material to work from and then just stay out of his way. But apart from that, JW is my favorite composer (after Beethoven) because he is a master of all aspects of his art (melody, harmony, orchestration, voicing, arranging...). He's proven he can write con
    4 points
  31. Glad to see some Shostakovich supporters coming out of the woodwork. Another thing he shares with John Williams is that they are both polystylists, Shostakovich has his very serious side : the violin concerto one, the symphony 4 he has his narrative sound most of his late symphonies - his symphony 11 is often referred to as as a film score without a film he has his jovial sound symphony nine,piano concerto 2 his incredibly sad sound string quartets 8:15 and he has his very deep instrospective sound
    3 points
  32. Shostakovich and JW are two of my favorite composers so I love the idea of this thread. I don't know if I would say Shostakovich was the greatest film composer ever but let's assume you are speaking in hyperbole. It is true he composed a lot of film scores but he was the pre-imeinent soviet composer working for state media when other work wasn't available. There is also the jazz connection but Shostakovich is coming to jazz by way of a limited Soviet exposure which doesn't really sound like Western Jazz. Honestly, what I think you mean is Shostakovich and JW both shared a love of the Russ
    3 points
  33. The 3 Worlds of Guliver - Bernard Herrmann, re-recording by Joel McNeely with the Royal Scottish National Orchestra. What a beatiful score. I just heard a suite before on a Herrmann sampler. But to really enjoy the score you must listen to the whole thing. Really. It starts with some 18 century Joseph Haydn style march, then after some track turs to the beautiful love theme and the music for the tiny people with a lot of woodwinds and high strings afterwards for the giants deep and bassy eerie sound. Really wonderful music ride closing the circle at the end nearly where it started. Herrma
    3 points
  34. Agreed, the Indoraptor had a lot of potential but never delivered. For starters, we didn't need another frickin' hybrid as the main antagonist and two, pick a damn movie. If you're gonna re-do Lost World, fine, whatever, stick to that. But don't switch me to a different haunted-house movie in the middle of the thing. I would have preferred if the whole thing was in the house and be done with it, but sadly neither of the halves of the movie are good enough, both are stupid as fuck. The only thing it has going on for it is the superb direction by Bayona, but he can't s
    3 points
  35. Well the forum is literally called the John Williams Fan Network, Jay...
    3 points
  36. Seen from a distance (I was in the audience) They were on stage at a concert John Williams David Newman Michael Giacchino Christopher Young Marco Beltrami John Debney Brian Tyler Nathan Barr They were guest speakers at Peter Hackman's Fans of Film Music event in 2013 Cliff Eidelman Randy Edelman Nathan Barr Reinhold Heil Joseph LoDuca Christopher Lennertz Mark McKenzie Christophe Beck Jeff Beal Henry Jackman Cliff Martinez Christopher Young They were guest
    3 points
  37. I know nothing about Biden and Harris's knowledge of anything (this year's election was not exactly populated by intellectual heavyweights), but I do think Obama's affection for Williams is real. I find the video below touching.
    3 points
  38. Forgive me if I missed a thread about this, but has anyone noted that a lot of these Universal Heritage releases are now on streaming services? Colossus: The Forbin Project Youtube Music / Spotify The Prisoner of Zenda Youtube Music / Spotify Airport '77 Youtube Music / Spotify The Concorde: Airport '79 Youtube Music / Spotify The Sentinel Youtube Music / Spotify Fletch Lives Youtube Music / Spotify Child's Play 2 Youtube Music / Spotify Rooster Cogburn Youtube Music / Spotify The Bride of Frankenstein Youtube Music / Spotify
    3 points
  39. All The President's Men - my first time watching this true-story political thriller, with Redford and Hoffman as the doggedly determined Washington Post reporters Woodward and Bernstein who uncovered the Watergate scandal. Terrific stuff.
    3 points
  40. The original is the only one that's indispensable, but I think there's still stuff to enjoy in all of them. TLW even retains the Spielbergian feel.
    3 points
  41. John Williams: From the Rise of Skywalker special features. This means nothing. Being edited while the film was shot doesn't mean there were never re-edits or fixes after the fact. Also, we have a cue-list from RoS that shows how different the order was for a Nov 11th cut from the final film. AND that cue list already looks like it's out of order and jumbled from what came before that. The film appears to be an editing nightmare, hence the numerous re-writes. It appears that even though they edited while they shot, someone (whether it be J.J., the producers
    3 points
  42. I haven't gotten around to Skyfall yet, but I've always loved Finding Nemo, WALL-E, and A Series of Unfortunate Events. There's just so much style and heart in those 3 scores. ASOUE in particular is just brimming with personality, and his music really fits with the tone of the film and the book series.
    3 points
  43. That’s harsh! Though, I’d argue the next transition is even worse, about as convincing as a sudden lurch into another key in the final bars of Beethoven’s 5th symphony would be. Agreed. And the major-key Rey chimes in the final bars are just magic! A good reason to stick with the Yoda-less FYC version, though then you miss out on ‘Holdo’s Resolve’.
    3 points
  44. ESB for me, followed by ANH, and not a particularly hard decision. Pinnacles of the form, both of them. Worst, hands down, is ROTS -- a disjointed and frustrating send-off, if a well-performed one. The transition b/t Battle of the Heroes and the Throne Room is one of my least favorite moments in all of JW. The Prequels are all a mixed bag, to be honest. AOTC at least offers that wonderful ending, with the harp/harpsichord statement of ATS, a hint of Anakin's Theme (one of only 3 times its heard out of TPM!) and a great merger of ATS and Vader's Theme. And TPM is, as @oierem and @D
    3 points
  45. 3 points
  46. Fabulin

    Why John Williams?

    Williams is a heavyweight, both in the 20th century and overall. I once thought that Shostakovich was a better composer than him, but further studies of the music of both have made me reject this hypothesis. Shostakovich had a smiliar rare skill for melodically improving inspirations he followed, but overall was much more crude in his craft, with rare exceptions to be found in quartets and the preludes and fugues. As it stands, I only consider Stravinsky's and Debussy's contributions to the 20th century classical music greater, as their time resulted in what was perhaps the last gr
    3 points
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