Popular Post Jay 37,369 Posted November 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2023 70. Best Score Soundtrack For Visual Media (Includes Film And Television) Award to Composer(s) for an original score created specifically for, or as a companion to, a current legitimate motion picture, television show or series, or other visual media. Barbie - Mark Ronson & Andrew Wyatt, composers Black Panther: Wakanda Forever - Ludwig Göransson, composer The Fabelmans - John Williams, composer Indiana Jones And The Dial Of Destiny - John Williams, composer Oppenheimer - Ludwig Göransson, composer 84. Best Instrumental Composition A Composer's Award for an original composition (not an adaptation) first released during the Eligibility Year. Singles or Tracks only. Amerikkan Skin - Lakecia Benjamin, composer (Lakecia Benjamin Featuring Angela Davis) Can You Hear The Music - Ludwig Göransson, composer (Ludwig Göransson) Cutey And The Dragon - Gordon Goodwin & Raymond Scott, composers (Quartet San Francisco Featuring Gordon Goodwin's Big Phat Band) Helena's Theme - John Williams, composer (John Williams) Motion - Edgar Meyer, composer (Béla Fleck, Edgar Meyer & Zakir Hussain Featuring Rakesh Chaurasia) https://www.grammy.com/news/2024-grammys-nominees-song-of-the-year Bellosh, Brando, Yavar Moradi and 13 others 10 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Get some, Johnny Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,466 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Nice selections of scores. I like all of them, except for maybe Barbie, which I only heard in the movie but not outside of it. Still, I think probably all of these awards will go to Göransson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,661 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Williams has much better luck with the Grammys versus Oscars. Probably because the awards are actually about music as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toillion 215 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 We have ourselves a real Williams vs Göransson showdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr. Hooper 1,792 Posted November 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2023 Brando, Gabriel Bezerra, Yavar Moradi and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB Makes Stuff 240 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 I expect the Visual Award to go to Göransson, but the Instrumental Composition to go to Williams. Not bets will be taken from me at this time… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post artguy360 1,843 Posted November 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2023 I could see JW winning best instrumental composition for Helena's Theme, but not for original score. Mr. Hooper, Cerebral Cortex and LB Makes Stuff 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 1,864 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Very nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,363 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 JW writes two film scores, gets a Grammy nom for each. Sounds about right. Sandor and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bellosh 3,419 Posted November 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2023 if you had told me in 2008 Indiana Jones 5 would be up for a grammy in the year 2023 i'd say you've lost your fucking mind and you need to find help. i hope he sweeps. QuartalHarmony, Martinland, igger6 and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,353 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 https://www.facebook.com/100066677585582/posts/pfbid02AxocF4wM6wahCCbQFeyyGjW37egQtF6CaVRiyKNbe1yQRbN6PfNdjteAmQVTjesl/?mibextid=Nif5oz 51 minutes ago, Bellosh said: i hope he sweeps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igger6 894 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Do we know how many times Williams has been double-nominated in one category and self-spoiled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,287 Posted November 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2023 58 minutes ago, Bellosh said: if you had told me in 2008 Indiana Jones 5 would be up for a grammy in the year 2023 i'd say you've lost your fucking mind and you need to find help. "John Williams will probably still be here fifteen years from now getting Grammy nominations for Indiana Jones 5 and The Steven Spielberg Biopic" is definitely a joke post someone could have made on JWFan in 2008 Madmartigan JC, Yavar Moradi, Bellosh and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 4,661 Posted November 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2023 Relistened to The Fabelmans recently. What a gem of a score--just core, essential Williams without the fanfare (literally). Bellosh, Yavar Moradi, bruce marshall and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,200 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Based on this list, Williams has now overtaken Georg Solti, Stevie Wonder, and Kanye West with his new nominations. And based on this list his his win:nomination ratio is 1:2.92, so statistically he should win another one this time. *Edit: I see the first list is one year old, so I'm not sure if the numbers are up to date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,419 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Is it safe to say these two scores will also be up for best score at the Oscars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 Fabelmans already was nominated at the most recent Oscars (Grammys have a different timeline whereas Oscars are just the calendar year) I still think there's a chance he gets snubbed for Indy but he's always pencilled in for a nomination by default Yavar Moradi and Bellosh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ricard 2,245 Posted November 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2023 11 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: Based on this list, Williams has now overtaken Georg Solti, Stevie Wonder, and Kanye West with his new nominations. Yes, the updated ranking confirms this. Brando, Muad'Dib, Raiders of the SoundtrArk and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Who's Jay David Saks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Looks like a producer for classical music, opera, musical theatre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,200 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 4 hours ago, Ricard said: Yes, the updated ranking confirms this. That also means that if you consider Williams a "classical" (or orchestral) artist (and Quincy Jones not one), Williams is now the most Grammy nominated classical artist, living or dead. Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 He probably has more purely orchestral or instrumental nominations than Jones But if you don't count his Home Alone and Sabrina song nominations, is Williams tied with Solti? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alex 2,835 Posted February 4 Popular Post Share Posted February 4 For Helena’s Theme Will, Taikomochi, GerateWohl and 30 others 15 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 1,864 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geom_00 36 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 WELL DESERVED!! And at least the other category he was nominated in DIDN'T go to Barbie enderdrag64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hooper 1,792 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Though I've unleashed the Indiana Jones Disenchantment Thread upon the world, this I can have no argument with! 'Helena's Theme' makes the existence of 'Dial of Destiny' (mostly) bearable. Bravo, Mr. Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post igger6 894 Posted February 5 Popular Post Share Posted February 5 Woohoo! I love this category, and I love that they so frequently honor film pieces in it. That's an even dozen for Johnny, although I have to say, giving it to "Angela's Ashes" over "The Egg Travels" from Dinosaur was a cryin' shame. But then again, skunking Hedwig was an equally cryin' shame, so I guess it's a dozen either way. P.S. Your humble correspondent had the dubious honor of adding Johnny's name to the chart on this category's Wikipedia page! Bayesian, Fabulin and That_Bloke 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi 404 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Yeah !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,110 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Another Grammy? Nice. But what I really want is..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BB-8 3,478 Posted February 5 Popular Post Share Posted February 5 5 hours ago, Amer said: Another Grammy? Nice. But what I really want is..... ...the CD to be back in stock. Brando, Pieter Boelen, That_Bloke and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 As a part time DoD disenchanter, at least Helena's Theme is the most accomplished part of that score, in my view and if you're gonna give JW anything for that score, it's that piece. However, just give Goransson the oscar now and put everyone here out of their misery. Mr. Hooper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That_Bloke 115 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 29 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: However, just give Goransson the oscar now and put everyone here out of their misery. IMHO I think Robertson has a bigger chance to get the Oscar than Goransson because: (a) Goransson already has one, and (b) Robertson's death (who has no wins) may trigger the sympathy vote. But I digress... An Oscar nom and Grammy win and still no CD in general retail or sheet music JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,200 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 With 26 Grammys, Williams is now tied with Pierre Boulez. Two more and he would tie wiht Quincy Jones for the #3 spot. Stats from last year: https://www.grammy.com/news/who-are-the-top-grammy-awards-winners-of-all-time That_Bloke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,030 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 If only there was a category like that at the Oscars. That_Bloke and BB-8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, That_Bloke said: An Oscar nom and Grammy win and still no CD in general retail or sheet music Given the state of CD releases I'd guess most instrumental composition winners aren't easily (or at all) available on CD. That_Bloke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,478 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Best Instrumental Composition I interpret this to mean that all other categories at the Grammys either refer to non-instrumental music or to instrumental and non-instrumental arrangements. Thus, "Best Instrumental Composition" is possibly the supreme discipline at the Grammys when it comes to music. Gurkensalat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GerateWohl 4,370 Posted February 5 Popular Post Share Posted February 5 5 hours ago, Richard Penna said: However, just give Goransson the oscar now and put everyone here out of their misery. It is quite easy to compare and to hear what is better. But I am sure Göransson's music sheets are worthy burning in John Williams' chimney and warming his feet on a long witer evening. Andy, BB-8, That_Bloke and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bespin 8,483 Posted February 5 Popular Post Share Posted February 5 I don't know if it has been mentioned, but he also won a Saturn Award for Indiana Jones. Sylvan, Tydirium, GerateWohl and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 7 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: It is quite easy to compare and to hear what is better. My personal tastes and enjoyment lean me more towards Oppenheimer on this occasion. 7 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: But I am sure Göransson's music sheets are worthy buring in John Williams' chimney and warm his feet on a long witer night. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,478 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 11 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: It is quite easy to compare and to hear what is better. But I am sure Göransson's music sheets are worthy buring in John Williams' chimney and warm his feet on a long witer night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Oppenheimer doesn't work as the "awards scapegoat" because it's actually good. Trope 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,440 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 I guess we can assume the non-Mutter version is the piece that was nominated and won, since the title is just "Helena's Theme". But do we have any other evidence of this? Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post p0llux 398 Posted February 5 Popular Post Share Posted February 5 Well deserved award. Helena's Theme was best piece of film music I heard all year. Nobody else in this category came close. Very happy with this win. GerateWohl, crumbs and Tydirium 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,200 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 9 hours ago, BB-8 said: Best Instrumental Composition I interpret this to mean that all other categories at the Grammys either refer to non-instrumental music or to instrumental and non-instrumental arrangements. Nah. There's all kinds of categories that refer to a variety of things. Plus apparently they're divided into "fields". The "Best Instrumental Composition" category is part of the "Production, Engineering, Composition & Arrangement" field, which encompasses these categories: Producer of the Year, Classical Best Remixed Recording, Non-Classical Best Immersive Audio Album Best Instrumental Composition Best Engineered Album, Classical Best Engineered Album, Non-Classical Best Arrangement, Instrumental or A Cappella Best Arrangement, Instrumental and Vocals So it's clearly a contrast to e.g. the two arrangement categories. But it's not necessarily mutually exclusive with categories from the other fields I suppose - except that there's clearly little overlap in Williams's case with things like "Best Bluegrass Album", "Best Rock Song", or "Song of the Year". BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,419 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 8 hours ago, GerateWohl said: It is quite easy to compare and to hear what is better. But I am sure Göransson's music sheets are worthy burning in John Williams' chimney and warming his feet on a long witer evening. That Oppie cue sounds so much like Interstellar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 907 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 4 hours ago, Bellosh said: That Oppie cue sounds so much like Interstellar. It certainly has a familair vibe, but the changes in tempo are mindbogglingly complex and hard to pull off. This video goes into the complexity of the piece rhythmically (and melodicaly) and how difficult it was for the musicans to record it, and it gave me a greater appreciation of the piece. Back to Williams win. Did he attend the ceremony? Marian Schedenig and BB-8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Will 2,215 Posted February 7 Popular Post Share Posted February 7 View this post on Instagram A post shared by JoAnn Kane Music Service - Manesty Inc. (@joannkanemusic) enderdrag64, Brando, Jay and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 That Oppenheimer track wasn't pleasant to listen to .Started grating on me a minute into the track .But it sounds gimmicky enough to win the Oscar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Congratulations to John. Well deserved. A great new theme by JW. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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