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  1. 6 points
    Something odd on disc 2. Track 22 is "The Conversation" and track 23 is "Inside". That's a little fast, I think. Shouldn't there be something like a "Kiss" between?
  2. 3 points
    JW: "Hey Arista, let's make this a 2LP set, okay?" Arista: "Sure, Mr. Williams."
  3. 3 points
    Only the most enfranchised fanboys have any clue what the Old Republic era is all about. The period is almost entirely unknown to the casual Star Wars fan and moviegoer. It'd be a very rich area in the series' lore to explore. Definitely enough material to sustain a film trilogy.
  4. 3 points
    Maybe if you're an amateur! Oftentimes, even The Conversation gets skipped over.
  5. 3 points
    Statement from La-La Land on FSM: So glad you guys are excited by this release. To be honest with you, we didn't even think it was going to happen until we did Braveheart a few years back. We are deeply honored to have been able to bring this dream project to life with the full cooperation of Mr Horner's estate, agency, Fox, Paramount, Sony Music and Lightstorm (and we got it signed off on just as they started shooting the new Avatar films!). While it would have been nice to include the song, we were frankly told that IF we wanted to include it we may want to schedule the release for the 25th anniversary! lol You can bemoan all you want about the song, but the fact is that our goal was to present the original score as Mr Horner recorded for the film. The song would have been nice, but beyond complicated. We are film score fans. In the end, that's what matters the most. MV http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=123920&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=1&r=187#
  6. 2 points
    It's the exact same photo. OMG, they photoshoped the inclination of his head!
  7. 2 points
    Kostov

    THE LAST JEDI - Disney Records OST

    I think it is. I'm sooooo excited. I really can't wait. Common Disney, give us some track previews.
  8. 2 points
    3:27 is just a variation on Anakin's theme, but a very nice one for sure.
  9. 2 points
    John

    THE LAST JEDI - Disney Records OST

    I noticed that the Last Jedi soundtrack is now available for preorder on iTunes... just purchased my copy in advance. Man, only 3 weeks left to go... my nerd anticipation for both the score and film has been set to maximum overdrive. Can't wait!
  10. 2 points
    What a great thread... just discovering it now. Bummer that a lot of the YouTube content has been pulled, but appreciate the timing & track references. This is actually one of my pet loves about JW's scores -- just these little moments that he drops in there, sometimes with these amazing themes that are never heard again. And it's always perfectly set to the story beats in the visuals (as if the musical accomplishment by itself wasn't enough). Not sure if it was mentioned earlier, but I feel like track 8 (He is the Chosen One) of the TPM soundtrack is basically an entire track full of these. These mysterioso chords at 0:03 to 0:24 that segue into something that sounds like it's going to be the Force theme, but doesn't quite get there: This painfully beautiful coda out of Anakin's theme at 0:31 and into this amazing religioso low brass chorale at 0:44 (segment ends around 1:01): This 12/8 agitato string figure that starts at 1:38, is joined by a partial statement of the Force theme, and then the segment winds down with a series of tender cadences starting about 2:01, the last one (2:14) punctuated with harp & celeste: And the end of this track -- I just wanna hug it, and squeeze it, and call it George. 3:20 starts with another one of these moving cadence passages that are all over this track, and then JW just casually drops this beautiful hymn for strings and winds (3:27; which we never hear again, AFAIK) which winds down with the horns changing the character from lyrical to noble. And can we just marvel at the precision of the LSO brass on that fanfare that ends the track? Every time I hear this I'm just stunned with the uniformity of articulation and note length, and better than even money it was that way right from the first reading: Now, if I were a film music composer, I gotta think I would give my left nut/ovary to have composed any one of these moments. And JW's scores have countless of these things.
  11. 2 points
    Absolutely thrilled, and looking forward to the first appearance of Inside (kind of coming full circle to when one of my earliest purchases was a new record called Pops in Space, which included the SE material). The crossover arrangement of the theme will be missed - Meco's was disco, JW's much better one was closer to jazz funk - but it sounds fine on Audio Fidelity's 2015 release and I can see how it wasn't necessary here. I'm really glad the Maestro got to realize his original LP plans... with much better sound and editing. Hands down my fav score, or musical work of any kind, ever.
  12. 1 point
    How do you began to prostitute yourself? - "Well, I'm a JW completist."
  13. 1 point
    I'm not doing that for JP I and II. Maybe for Harry Potter or Star Wars prequels or Hook, we'll see. And I live in Europe, the shipping fees are insane.
  14. 1 point
    Do you know the meaning of the word "regret"?
  15. 1 point
    crocodile

    What Is The Last Score You Listened To?

    The Snowman by Marco Beltrami. The film might be indeed a trainwreck but the score is something else entirely. Bit Herrmannesque, bit Elfmanesque... it is just perfect for a thriller set against a wintry backdrop. Very classy. One of 2017's very best (not a difficult task, by the way). Karol
  16. 1 point
    Kostov

    THE LAST JEDI - Disney Records OST

    I agree. I respect other composers for their work, but when I listen to their music, it just can't grab me. My inner voice tells me that nothing can't get even closer to John Williams music. John Williams is just a remarkable human being, always making me have goosebumps.
  17. 1 point
    You're funny. I find a lot of good info in old posts!
  18. 1 point
    John

    What are you thankful for?

    I am thankful for JWFan!
  19. 1 point
    Kostov

    THE LAST JEDI - Disney Records OST

    I really want to hear something already guys, because this waiting is like a torture. John Williams is my soul fuel. What do you think about getting a glimpse of a recording session before the movie release, like "60 Minutes" back in 2015?
  20. 1 point
    If Titanic is getting a release it means that everything can be done !
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  22. 1 point
    KK

    What Is The Last Score You Listened To?

    Indeed. It has more to do with the heavy influence of English music on his work. You hear strains of Britten or old English hymns all over his scores.
  23. 1 point
    That would be Spielberg's secret account. He is the original JWFan after all
  24. 1 point
    Is William still the youngest? Wonder if anybody younger has joined and posts regularly. I seem to remember there's someone here (or maybe a few) who got into Williams pre-Jaws. Not sure if they'd even necessarily be the oldest, though.
  25. 1 point
    mrbellamy

    THE LAST JEDI - Disney Records OST

    Force Awakens had one official clip with score and Rogue One had a bunch, so I'm assuming we'll hear something.
  26. 1 point
    Muad'Dib

    THE LAST JEDI - Disney Records OST

    Too many arpegios for Willy.
  27. 1 point
    Bespin

    What Is The Last Score You Listened To?

    The perfect soundtrack for a rainy sunday of november.
  28. 1 point
    I'm just curious how it will play out in full, given that we've never really heard Horner's intended version. Other than that, I have a this sort of love/hate relationship with the score. Some of it is amazing, some of it gets on my nerves. Karol
  29. 1 point
    @Xinau Finally another post with my degree of enthusiasm about JW! That track is indeed pretty great. Cool to go through it with your "listening guide" of sorts.
  30. 1 point
    Looking at that tracklist some of the cues are combined out of order, but each of them is included again on the other disc with a clean opening or ending. This is really cool because it not only allows for chronological playlists, it also gives the discs a fuller program so each can work as a complete experience on its own. This looks like the kind of release I always dream of. I'm especially excited to check out the pseudo double LP program on Disc 1!
  31. 1 point
    crocodile

    Best Christmas Music

    One of my favourite Christmas-themed pieces is Krzysztof Penderecki's 2nd Symphony. He is probably most known for his avant garde atonal music of his youth (and popularised by the horror films, I'm sure) but my favourite work of his is the exact opposite of that. He shocked the concert music scene in the early 1980's where he decided he's done with those crazy experiments and started composing music in a more neo-romantic idiom. And that is when this symphony premiered. It is actually labeled as "Christmas" symphony due to the inclusion of Silent Night as the running motif. But the entire work is quite brooding and dark. I love it. Karol
  32. 1 point
    I was 18 and still very much in the grip of "WTF this John Williams guy who did Jurassic Park two years ago was also the same bloke who did the music for Star Wars, Jaws, ET, Raiders, Superman, Close Encounters, Hook, Lost in Space and Land of the Giants?!" mania.
  33. 1 point
    The score is also insanely effective within the film and given a chance to shine in several major scenes.
  34. 1 point
    Bilbo

    THE LAST JEDI - Target-Exclusive OST Album

    I started primary school in 1996.
  35. 1 point
    publicist

    THE POST - SCORE Thread

    I guess 'POST' will have a digital release early with only the physical release coming later.
  36. 1 point
    Loert

    Spanish/Latin style cues

    (Spain 1519) (Cheldorado)
  37. 1 point
    https://musique.fnac.com/a11191330/John-Williams-John-Williams-Conductor-Coffret-Inclus-un-livret-illustre-de-64-pages-CD-album There are no details available yet, but it's safe to assume that the 20 CDs will be: Williams Conducts Williams: The Skywalker Symphony The Spielberg/Williams Collaboration Music of the Night I Love a Parade Joy to the World Music for Stage and Screen Williams on Williams: The Classic Spielberg Scores Night and Day: The Pops Salutes Sinatra Unforgettable The Green Album Swing The Five Sacred Trees The Hollywood Sound Cinema Serenade Cinema Serenade Vol.2 Gershwin Fantasy Call of the Champions Yo-Yo Ma Plays the Music of John Williams The Spielberg/Williams Collaboration Vol.3 A CD with the Memoirs of a Geisha Suite for Cello and Orchestra and the Geisha Suite for Cello and Piano (plus perhaps the American Masterpiece Collection Theme)
  38. 1 point
    Obi

    THE LAST JEDI - Disney Records OST

    Impossible.
  39. 1 point
    crocodile

    Danny Elfman's JUSTICE LEAGUE (2017)

    OK... Seven people then... Karol
  40. 1 point
    Holko

    Danny Elfman's JUSTICE LEAGUE (2017)

    One of them writes the As, one writes the Es, another writes the C#-s...
  41. 1 point
    MikeH

    What is your biggest hope for TLJ's score?

    Christmas sounds, of course.
  42. 1 point
    Is it not possible to try to solve the puzzle of the score's chronology while also giving the new presentation a chance?
  43. 1 point
    Fancyarcher

    Spanish/Latin style cues

    Schifrin was the first actual name that came to mind. The Wrath of God is another great example too. Also Goldsmith's Bandolero comes to mind.
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  45. 1 point
    Arpy

    Danny Elfman's JUSTICE LEAGUE (2017)

    http://www.instyle.com/reviews-coverage/music/tina-guo-wonder-woman-theme-song A quick google search reveals Guo and Zimmer co-wrote the theme. Tina Guo:
  46. 1 point
    I woke up groggy this morning (forgetting all about the announcements) and was reading through the Die Another Day thread when someone mentioned "over in the TITANIC thread" and I was like Seriously great news to wake up to. I knew it was going to happen someday, just not this soon...if you can say twenty years on is 'soon'. It'll be very interesting to finally hear everything. I just re-read the following interview with Don Davis which is a great insight to the process: http://www.ign.com/articles/2000/07/17/interview-with-composer-don-davis-part-3-of-4 _______________ PLUME: On a side note to Horner, you worked with him on Titanic. There was a very famous rift between Horner and James Cameron after Aliens. Was any residual of that evident in what you observed between Horner and Cameron on Titanic? It was originally a falling out based on their differing views on the music for Aliens, wasn't it? DAVIS: No, I think it was a little more than that. It was music too, but Jim Cameron is a very tough guy to work for. Actually, I gained a lot of respect for Horner during Titanic, because Horner was accommodating Cameron in ways that I thought a composer the stature of Horner had no reason to accommodate anyone. He completely handled the situation with absolute humility and professionalism. I don't think there are very many composers who would have acquiesced to Jim Cameron the way Horner did. Horner gave Jim exactly what he wanted. I think there are some people who think that the Titanic score may be overly simplistic, or some people object to the Celtic nature of it, or whatever, but I can tell you that if any other composer had scored that picture, Jim would have fired him and at least four other composers before he got what he wanted. Horner was determined that that would not happen, and it didn't happen, and I think it was the best score that Jim would ever allow into that picture. For that reason, I think he deserves all the Academy Awards and accolades that he got. PLUME: I think that's a perspective that not very many people saw in that. DAVIS: Well, you kind-of had to be there to see it. I mean, it was magnificent. PLUME: It was surprising to a lot of people that Horner would even work with Cameron again after Aliens. DAVIS: I can't really say, because I wasn't there all that much. I would go to Horner's place, pick up the sketches, he'd talk me through them, I'd do them, and I was done. I do know that I made a lot of extra money on that show, because the picture kept changing and Cameron kept making changes, and as the sketches changed, they kept coming back to me to change the orchestration and I'd get more money. That was just fine as far as I was concerned. Through that process, I could see that he was accommodating this director. He was really bending over backwards to do everything that Jim wanted him to do. I couldn't picture a composer of the stature of John Williams doing that, well, maybe he would but there gets to be a point when it's too much. PLUME: Isn't it the job of the composer to conform to the director's view of the film? What line is there that demarcates when it's not worth the hassle? DAVIS: There are situations where directors give composers directives just to give them directives. Just to show "who's boss in this room." PLUME: Is it the film version of busy work? DAVIS: Sure. Go outside and dig a 20-foot hole and then fill it up again. Composers, whether they are or not, certainly like to view themselves as being creative and having a contribution to make to the process. There are some personalities, fortunately they are few, that seem to want to negate that. There's a point where it becomes too much of an insult to bear. If a composer is very highly successful, and James Horner certainly is, that means that he has to take less of that kind of abuse than a composer who is not of that stature. From my limited vantage point, it seemed like changes were coming in just for the sake of changes to come in, and I was wondering, as I was picking up these changed sketches, why Horner was going to such lengths to make this guy happy. Once the film came out, I understood perfectly. That's another tribute to James Horner, because he has not only an amazing visceral insight into what a film needs musically, but he knows how these situations work and he knows when to do something and when not to do something. You've got to hand it to the guy. ____________ I talked to Simon Franglen a few months ago about Horner's synth work and he said that Titanic was 'the score with no budget'. About 60% was synth only. They wanted to replace the synth choir (which Simon built from seven different synths) with the Harlem Boys Choir but there was no money to do so. Here's a news article about Horner's original soundtrack deal. Wonder how much Johnny gets per album? Titanic Composer Sails to BankNEW YORK (Variety) - Forget the two Oscars he won for the music to ``Titanic.'' James Horner is creating more of a buzz for a ``Titanic'' soundtrack deal that has the composer homing in on a record payday that may be more than $20 million. Insiders familiar with the deal say it breaks down this way: Horner got an upfront scoring fee of around $800,000. But that's just the tip of the iceberg. He also gets royalty points on the instrumental soundtrack and shares publishing and songwriting fees for the Celine Dion hit ``My Heart Will Go On.'' Sources say the fees mean Horner will earn $1.20 per album -- a rate typical for platinum-selling superstar artists.
  47. 1 point
    There's really only one possibility...the licensing fee was too high. Especially given the limited number of copies this is going to sell, La-La Land probably (rightly) concluded that their audience would not be motived to buy the record by the song's presence, nor dissuaded by the lack thereof.
  48. 1 point
    But those are carols interpreted and orchestrated by JW right? (could be wrong...) Dion probably commands a way bigger fee for her voice to be heard on an album. Why are we even debating this anyway... it doesn't need to be on the set.
  49. 1 point
    KK

    What Is The Last Score You Listened To?

    Tokyo Ghoul by Don Davis Brothers Grimm by Dario Marianelli Luna by Austin Wintory Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri by Carter Burwell Lincoln by John Williams
  50. 1 point
    WOW!!! First E.T., now Close Encounters of the Third Kind! Following that, two new scores by the Maestro. Absolutely phenomenal. I cannot wait.
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