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Not to me! The OST version is much choppier. What I find kinda weird is that this is a huge, complex score with lots of themes, I've only watched the movie 3 times and heard the whole thing 4-6 times, all of those listens being in the last 4 months, and I already feel like I know it very well and largely grasp the structure. JW made it easily graspable despite its scale!

I listened to the full score again after a few months and the music is just too good. There isn’t a single dull or uninteresting moment, and the way he weaves the themes together so seamlessly makes it feel like you’re listening to a concert work rather than something written to picture. This may be Williams’ most complex score, and definitely remains one of my favourites.

Decided to start a thread to list all of these since I've started documenting them. There are a surprising number of these available to the public. From ANH, everyone knows about takes 16-20 of 1m2 Star Wars on the 1997 set, and the alternate takes throughout the 1993 album are pretty well known as well (though not necessarily documented). But I was surprised to find that the 1997 and 2018 albums actually have alternate takes too! Here's a few that I've found already: 1M3 The War has an alternate take on the 1993 set from 2:15-2:58, the 1997/2018 sets have the correct one. 2M3 The Little People has an alternate take in a couple spots. The 1993 and 1997 sets both have the wrong take from 3:12-3:16, where the 2018 has the right one. However, the 1993 and 2018 sets have the wrong take for the ending Imperial statement, where the 1997 set has the correct one. 2M5 More Little People has an alternate mix for 1:25-end on the 1993 and 1997 sets, where the 2018 has the correct mix. I thought this was a different take originally but @Manakin Skywalker noticed that the 1997 and 2018 versions do indeed phase, so it must be a different mix and not a different take. I'll keep updating this thread as I find more. Feel free to include ones from other Star Wars scores, they don't have to just be ANH

John Williams - Minority Report (LLL) This listen convinced me that this is one of Johnny's masterpieces. The blend of brooding introspection, unreachable memories of happier times, thrilling action and chase music, and vocals crying for justice is unparalleled in any other scores I've heard. I love how you can tell from listening that this fits right in between his prequel and Harry Potter scores, and is very post-AI pre-War of the Worlds, yet doesn't feel like it steals from any of those, its its own thing. And its fantastic from start to finish, especially the main program of the LLL edition. I forgot how much I like the alternate openings to The Crime and Freezing Water, so I'll probably swap those with their main program counterparts next time around. What a score!

Oh yeah, it's internet people's opinions about James f'ing Bond which make humanity irredeemable and deserving of meteor destruction. But wait, what about the "7 billion other normal people" who would also perish from your meteor, TolkienSS? Do they deserve death too, just like the heathens who want to wokify Bond? Yavar

https://www.facebook.com/share/xzPXyC4MpBjqgWfS/ After a long wait, the expanded edition arrives next Tuesday. In the meantime, there's this:

I agree. Except that Pick 'em Up is just no main program material.

I can't get enough of this release. There's so much to digest and such a definitive presentation. Hook has jumped right to near the top of my all time favourite Williams scores.

So if anyone is watching the show that didn't play the second game, I'd avoid reading ANY news about the show out there at the moment! I can tell you one completely spoiler free news though, which is that supposedly they are projecting to air season 2 beginning March/April 2025, right after White Lotus Season 3 runs from Jan-March 2025.

I had a JW dream last night. I was tasked, together with a friend, to return something (I can't remember what) to JW's house. When we got there in the morning, he was still asleep, so I decided to browse through his CD collection. I found an album with something by Mendelssohn and also a suite from The Reivers on it and decided to borrow it. My friend had to leave, but I was still there when Williams got up at 9:30 and had breakfast. I think he offered me some. We talked a bit (I forget about what) and he told me come back next day. I was going to next morning, but something (can't remember) came up and I didn't get around to it until the afternoon. JW was still there, but I mostly talked a bit with my uncle, who was also living there (at that point, JW's house had a vague resemblance to my grandparents'). I think the dream was a bit more substantial, but that's all I could remember when I wrote it down this morning.

The Indiana Jones Piano Solo Collection is finally available... and 5 of the 10 pieces are new arrangements! The highlight is not from Dial of Destiny but from Temple of Doom, with "Short Round's Theme" more than twice as long as the original arrangement to match the entire album track. And it's very well written for piano (advanced). "Parade of the Slave Children" is a new, slightly longer arrangement. It's nice to also have "The Keeper of the Grail" although it's the simplest arrangement in the collection (it's a good piece to practice tone and phrasing however). As for Dial of Destiny, "Helena's Theme" matches the entire album track, as expected, but "Archimedes' Tomb" includes a different ending than the album track. Is this arranged from a different track/cue, or is it just the arranger's choice to add an extra section? Overall, this collection is unlike the previous ones that have been published for Star Wars and Harry Potter. It's much smaller, but well worth having for the new material.

For those that missed the Mondo pre-order, the Amazon link is now live. Hurry! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CYLVSSQ5

Their original email said it would be on sale on their site and on Amazon but it never appeared on Amazon. Someone asked about it in the comments and Mondo replied saying it hadn’t launched yet. So I bet Mondo got to sell 500 and Amazon gets 500.

1:11-1:18 (horns take over the line from then but the strings continue in the back until 1:22) Goddammit I had to listen to the full track because of you, I can't just stop there. That fiddle near the end rules! Adds some much needed diversity and more fun.

It's the other way around. I pretty much only review scores I enjoy. Who wants to read about something that's crap?

Feels like it could have supported a print run of twice as many. Like Star Wars etc., it has significant crossover appeal to those who aren't necessarily into film/TV music so I'm sure plenty went to Tolkien/LOTR fans. Pessimistically/cynically, the risk is that they don't release the individual episode scores digitally next time and the only way to get them will be the boxed set. However, given how much BM seems to care about his music and fans, this seems unlikely. I doubt he'd want to piss them off doing something like that.

I've seen The Exorcist about 167 times....AND IT KEEPS GETTING FUNNIER EVERYTIME I SEE IT

Just didn’t want it. I have a big mailer envelope of signed booklets, mostly from LLL, that sits and gathers dust.

Ahem... *clears throat* H A R D I N G F E L E !!! https://www.instagram.com/stephengallaghermusic/p/C4_OEdcsRd3/

Nope, but I've got Hänssler's set. Cheaper and fewer CDs, but excellent!

I doubt there's 7 billion "normal" people anyway, for any sufficiently exclusive definition of "normal" (which is usually the point of the classification).

Now available on Amazon US https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CYLVSSQ5

I'm afraid I don't understand what you are saying. The OST album track The Neverfeast contains the cue Cornucopia followed by the cue Cutting The Coconut. The LLL track The Neverfeast (Film Version) contains the cue Cornucopia with an Insert inserted, followed by the cue Cutting The Coconut. Does that clear things up?

Yea if they hired completely unknowns for every role here, it could pass as a lost movie from the 70s

It was a series of commercials that all used music to great effect. This was the first (and best) one: I have Previn/Tortelier, but I should probably try out some others as well.

Then what Jon does is still playing to those rules. When you read something from him, you get his informed opinion of something that he likes. I love his reviews (and Craig Lysy's for the older scores) and they help me appreciate certain scores more. I'm not looking for someone who reviews stuff to bash it into the ground

This and Hellboy II being released so close to each other is super fun because I've always thought of them as sibling scores and films.

I wonder how many people will avoid ordering on 4/2 because they know The Piper is coming on 4/16 and want both

Magnificent main theme, and a very good score overall, albeit short. Unfortunately only an LP has been released.

But he loves almost every score he reviews. Has he written any good symphonies?

I might go. But is this the only film you can see on its own, apart from the upcoming theatrical Star Wars marathon? I'd probably go see all the prequels, but I don't want to see the current editions of the OT, and probably not enough time has passed to bother seeing the ST.

This may have been discussed elsewhere, but is anyone considering the Episode I rescreening early May 2024 (25th Anniversary)?

Wasn’t the last one - the third one - called Bad Boys For Life? What a missed opportunity. Obviously, they should’ve saved that title for this one - the fourth one - and call it Bad Boys 4 Life. 😂

Well look at that, I held out on buying the digital episode albums long enough that this wasn’t a waste of money for me. Opted for the non-signature version yesterday.

Yeah, I'm just hoping that after The Singularity has been released (which I'm very much looking forward to) he goes back to composing and releasing scores a bit more. Instead of just doing main themes.

Lorne Balfe - Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning (2023) Sources: GEMA (source of cue order), ASCAP, Known cue number sources: eddiehamilton.com (the Avid timelines contain different cue numbers for some cue titles, i've listed the best ones, Synchron Stage IG, Lorne Balfe IG 1m01 Bering Sea - Lorne Balfe, Bobby Tahouri, Stuart Michael Thomas Course 100 - Lorne Balfe, Bobby Tahouri, Stuart Michael Thomas 1m03 It Vanished - Stuart Michael Thomas 1m04 Torpedo Not Responding - Lorne Balfe, Kevin Blumenfeld, Stuart Michael Thomas 1m05a (1m08) Mission Briefing - Lorne Balfe, Max Aruj, Stuart Michael Thomas 1m09 Braid Attack (called Desert Fight on EH's Avid timeline) - Lorne Balfe 2m11 (3m11) What Are We Dealing With - Bobby Tahouri, Stuart Michael Thomas 2m12 Gas Mask - Lorne Balfe, Kevin Riepl, Stuart Michael Thomas Reunited - Lorne Balfe, Max Aruj 2m13 I Understand You’re Upset - Lorne Balfe, Max Aruj, Bobby Tahouri Kittridge Mask - Lorne Balfe, Bobby Tahouri, Stuart Michael Thomas Kittridge Darted - Lorne Balfe 1m07 Main Titles - Lorne Balfe 2m15 Briggs and Degas - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Bobby Tahouri 2m16 (3m16) Airport - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Kevin Riepl, Stuart Michael Thomas 2m16 (3m16) Airport (Cont) - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey 3m18 Bomb Riddles Part 1 - Lorne Balfe, Max Aruj 3m18 Bomb Riddles Part 2 - Lorne Balfe, Stuart Michael Thomas 3m19 We’ve Been Had - Lorne Balfe, Max Aruj, Stuart Michael Thomas 3m20 Airport Flight - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey Keep Tabs on This Woman - Lorne Balfe 4m22 Magistrate Spezzi - Lorne Balfe, Bobby Tahouri, Stuart Michael Thomas 4m23 (3m23) Grazie Agente - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Peter Adams 4m24 Your Friends From The Airport - Lorne Balfe, Peter Adams Grace Crash - Bobby Tahouri 4m26a Italian Standoff - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Stuart Michael Thomas 4m26b Handcuffs - Lorne Balfe, Bobby Tahouri You’re Driving - Lorne Balfe Yellow Fiat - Lorne Balfe Fiat Reverse - Lorne Balfe 4m30 (5m30) Team Arrives In Venice - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey It’s Protecting Him - Lorne Balfe, Max Aruj 5m31 He Calls Himself Gabriel - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Stuart Michael Thomas 5m35 Interested Party - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Stuart Michael Thomas 5m37 Run As Far As You Can - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Peter Adams, Stuart Michael Thomas 5m38 Ducale Palace Fight - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey 5m39 Entity Hacks Comms - Lorne Balfe, Peter Adams, Stuart Michael Thomas 5m41 (6m41) You Are Done - Stuart Michael Thomas 5m41 (6m41) You Are Done (Cont) - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Stuart Michael Thomas 6m42 I Was Hoping It’d Be You - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Bobby Tahouri, Kevin Riepl 6m43 Bridge Loss - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey 6m44 What If - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Stuart Michael Thomas You Don’t Even Know Me - Lorne Balfe 6m46a Do Not Alter The Plan - Lorne Balfe, Max Aruj, Stuart Michael Thomas 6m46b Mask Machine - Stuart Michael Thomas Orient Express - Lorne Balfe, Kevin Riepl, Stuart Michael Thomas Talk To Me Benji - Lorne Balfe, Stuart Michael Thomas 7m48 Gabriel Hijacks The Train - Lorne Balfe, Kevin Riepl, Stuart Michael Thomas I Missed The Train - Lorne Balfe, Stuart Michael Thomas 7m50b Widow Swap - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Stuart Michael Thomas, Bobby Tahouri You’re Not Alana - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Stuart Michael Thomas 7m51 My Terms Have Changed - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Stuart Michael Thomas, Bobby Tahouri Paris Searched - Max Aruj, Bobby Tahouri, Stuart Michael Thomas 7m53a Where’s Gabriel - Lorne Balfe, Bobby Tahouri, Stuart Michael Thomas It Won’t Be Long - Lorne Balfe, Bobby Tahouri 7m53 Operation Rasputine - Lorne Balfe, Bobby Tahouri, Stuart Michael Thomas Paris Stab - Lorne Balfe, Kevin Riepl, Bobby Tahouri 7m54 Commission - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Stuart Michael Thomas, Bobby Tahouri, Peter Adams 7m55 Cliff Edge (source: Lorne Balfe's IG; not listed on any repertories) - Lorne Balfe Jump Off Cliff - Lorne Balfe, Bobby Tahouri, Max Aruj 7m58a Transfer Declined - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Stuart Michael Thomas 8m58b Zola Fires - Lorne Balfe, Bobby Tahouri 8m59 Ethan and Gabriel Fight - Lorne Balfe, Bobby Tahouri, Joshua Pacey, Kevin Riepl 8m60 I Know What You Need to Know - Lorne Balfe, Bobby Tahouri, Stuart Michael Thomas 8m61 Gabriel Falls Onto Truck - Lorne Balfe, Kevin Riepl, Stuart Michael Thomas 8m64 Paris Rescue - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey Grace Climbs - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Stuart Michael Thomas 8m64c Last Carriage Falls - Cecile Tournesac 9m65 Parachute Escape - Lorne Balfe, Max Aruj, Joshua Pacey, Peter Adams, Stuart Michael Thomas 9m66 (10m66) Curtain Call (source: Lorne Balfe's IG; not listed on any repertories) - Lorne Balfe He Calls Himself Gabriel Reprise - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Stuart Michael Thomas Your Friends From The Airport Reprise - Lorne Balfe, Peter Adams I Was Hoping It’d Be You (Unused) - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey

@bored Wow! So happy you went and made this alternate version of my alternate version, haha. Never did I think people would take this project and run with it. I’m glad we’ve both got our interpretations out there! I like the way you handled the transitions in this one.

"Why do I fall in love with every woman I see who shows me the least bit of attention?" "Well, technically speaking, the operation is brain damage, but it's on a par with a night of heavy drinking. Nothing you'll miss." "Sand is overrated. It's just tiny, little rocks." (Take that, Anakin) "Meet me in Montauk."

HERCULES had its world premiere last weekend in Hamburg.

0:00-1:23 = 5M2 Arrival At Neverland 1:23-2:44 = 5M3 Slicing The Hand 2:44-3:32 = 5M4 I'll Take Those Shoes 3:32-end = 5M5 Show Us Your Hook

Yes, Sweep, you're a sexist misogynist dinosaur, a relic of the cold war, and long may it continue Some things you reinvent. Some things you just don't fuck with. Bond is the latter.

All big long busy scores... this'll be a tiring week!

Yes, along with Elgar's Cello Concerto one of the best of the genre. Also very satisfying to perform. I played in the orchestra on this piece in a concert and was struck how well it feels and how exciting the ending bars were. I've noticed that with all Dvorak I've performed, it's very well executed even if you don't play much, each note has purpose. In contrast, Robert Schumann, I played throughout it but felt much of that served no purpose and wasn't exactly clear what I was needed for.

It's probably my favourite Dvorak work and favourite cello concerto.

I think that's the crux of the matter. Obviously, fan obsession (heck, any obsession) can be unhealthy. That's why we have movies like THE FAN or MISERY. When it's taken to the extreme, and the line between reality and fiction is blurred. I do think most people manage to navigate that limit pretty well. At least in my own life, I've never encountered any "scary" individuals like that. I've READ about them, like that guy stalking Spielberg some years back, but not actually met anyone. Not that I'm aware of, anyway. Unless you count autograph hounds etc. Finally, there's the question of research legitimacy and invasion of privacy. I'm well aware I tread that line myself, when I go into such detail about Williams' early life, for example. That particular thing combines three interests of mine - John Williams, artist beginnings (I edited a magazine on debut films a few months back that also nurtured some of that) and genealogy (I'm very much into researching my own lineage, but as an extension of that have an interest in the genealogy of other people too, at least those I have some connection to). The important thing here is SELF-CENSORSHIP, i.e. know what's appropriate to share and not. And ideally, whatever findings one encounters in one's research, will reflect on the way we approach their work too (for example, knowing that Williams has musicians all over the place in his family, certainly informs his early schooling in that area).

Let's look at this from annother angle. A guy I know, in his profesional life a technical consultant, is in private as one of his many hobbies obsessed with historical research about Napoleon Bonaparte. He runs an own website about it, visits with his family historical places around that, discusses with others about new scientific publications around the topic. At the same time there are hundreds of professional historians dedicating their whole life to the research on such a topic. Almost everyone working in science has a certain kind of obsession for the subject, to which they dedicate their professional and big amounts of their private life. And this kind of obsession can be very fulfilling and productive. Can obsession be toxic and destructive? Of course it can. When you are neglecting your duties, your family, your health, your social life, your children etc. When it goes hand in hand with drug abuse. There might be some other factors. Many artists are and were known for that. But you really have to dig deep into the private and social life of such a person to be able to estimate that. So my point is, obsession in itself is like many things neither good or bad. It depends on many factors. I on my end don't see myself in the position to make any remote diagnosis on anyone that I just know form the output of their hobby in social media. And I always would be very careful to do so. As I remember reports and statements from professional psychoanalysts in news articles being asked about their assessment on the mental health of famous celebrities or politicians, that they would not dare to come up with such diagnosis without having talked to these people directly in a few analytical sessions. What I could come up with would just be some projection of what I want to see in a person and interpreting everything that person does in a certain negative direction. But why should I do that? Isn't that somehow... toxic?

Ah, clever subversion of the thread title, being obsessed with a fan!

hans-zimmer.com lists some more cues (with slates) 1M03 Kuala Lumpur 1M06 You Have No Idea 1M07A Passport 1M10 Bruises 1M11A Gathering Intel 1M11 Late Night 1M12 To Clearance 1M13 To Niger 2M18 Report From Niger 2M19 Cairo 2M20 Who Are You? 2M23 All The VP's Men 2M24 Dr. Hassan 2M25 They Are Back 2M29 Amman 3M30 Coordinated Leak 3M32 Baghdad Arrival 3M33 Run-Up To War 3M34 Sixteen Words 3M35 We Won't Let You Down 4M36A The Article 4M36 Be Smart 4M37 Change The Story 4M38 Outed 4M39 Val Escapes 4M41 A Shot Across The Bow 4M42 Hate Call 4M43 Broken Trust 4M44 Director 5M47 Rove Delivers Findings 5M48 Talking Heads 5M49 Breaking Point 6M50 Cab Hail 6M51B Capitol 360 6M52 What They Did Wrong 6M53 Reconciliation 6M54 Ready To Fight 6M56 End Credits cues from your list that don't appear on hz Valerie Testifies The White House Toothbrush Tears

It's been about 9 months already since the announcement of Hisaishi's partnership with DG. I hope there'll be another release soon - and hopefully one that includes the symphony.