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Star Wars Alternate Takes Thread
Brando and 4 others reacted to enderdrag64 for a topic
Decided to start a thread to list all of these since I've started documenting them. There are a surprising number of these available to the public. From ANH, everyone knows about takes 16-20 of 1m2 Star Wars on the 1997 set, and the alternate takes throughout the 1993 album are pretty well known as well (though not necessarily documented). But I was surprised to find that the 1997 and 2018 albums actually have alternate takes too! Here's a few that I've found already: 1M3 The War has an alternate take on the 1993 set from 2:15-2:58, the 1997/2018 sets have the correct one. 2M3 The Little People has an alternate take in a couple spots. The 1993 and 1997 sets both have the wrong take from 3:12-3:16, where the 2018 has the right one. However, the 1993 and 2018 sets have the wrong take for the ending Imperial statement, where the 1997 set has the correct one. 2M5 More Little People has an alternate mix for 1:25-end on the 1993 and 1997 sets, where the 2018 has the correct mix. I thought this was a different take originally but @Manakin Skywalker noticed that the 1997 and 2018 versions do indeed phase, so it must be a different mix and not a different take. I'll keep updating this thread as I find more. Feel free to include ones from other Star Wars scores, they don't have to just be ANH5 points -
Meanwhile I'm still waiting for more complete versions of the Hobbit scores..5 points
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Next James Bond actor after Daniel Craig?
Sweeping Strings and 4 others reacted to Marian Schedenig for a topic
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Hey guys, Been a while since I posted here, but I just thought I’d drop by to let you know of a soundtrack concert report site that I started recently. I’ve actually just posted my report of John Williams in Milan! Here’s the link: https://soundtracks-in-concert.com/concerto-straordinario-john-williams-2022/ You can also find these reviews (previously posted by me on JWFan): JW in Tokyo https://soundtracks-in-concert.com/deutsche-grammophon-125-years-special-gala-concert/ Boston pops tribute to JW (Tokyo) https://soundtracks-in-concert.com/boston-pops-on-tour-2023-john-williams-tribute-2023/ Thanks for looking 😎4 points
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The Bear McCreary Thread
Yavar Moradi and 3 others reacted to crocodile for a topic
There is a widespread belief among the public that film and television media are monolithic entities, and their individual elements cannot be appreciated independently. I've come across some harsh criticism online. It's perplexing to see someone comment that they "would rather have blood in their stool." While the show's critique can be somewhat justified, the disdain for the music puzzles me. It's likely as lavish and well-crafted as any music produced today. Preferring Howard Shore's style is completely acceptable, but to dismiss this work as subpar is unfair. I enjoy both regularly and see no need to pit them against each other. Karol4 points -
The Bear McCreary Thread
Richard Penna and 3 others reacted to GerateWohl for a topic
Yes. For a soundtrack collector there are many reasons to get this box apart from wanting to listen to every minute of the music. This score was one of the best of the year and this box represents in so many ways what soundtrack fans would like to have from their favourite francise score. The only thing which makes me wonder, I would expect that this is something especially popular under soundtrack fans who loved the show. But I just remember comments from Tolkien hardcore fans complaining about the terrible show. For those people I would expect the OST being more than enough. Question for me: Can I love the complete score and hate the show at the same time? By the way, I really liked the show. And the music.4 points -
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There's no winning with these people...3 points
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Star Wars is better than everything
enderdrag64 and 2 others reacted to Edmilson for a topic
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Next James Bond actor after Daniel Craig?
Sweeping Strings and 2 others reacted to Tallguy for a topic
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Frank Lehman has uploaded this to Youtube. Nothing new, but nice to have a direct link:3 points
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Next James Bond actor after Daniel Craig?
Yavar Moradi and 2 others reacted to Marian Schedenig for a topic
It has a nice Rosenthal score.3 points -
Villeneuve's DUNE
Nick1Ø66 and one other reacted to Naïve Old Fart for a topic
They're picking gnat shit out of pepper. Who gives a fuck what they think.2 points -
A facebook friend of mine said that this was Kilar's Dracula 2, a masterpiece, the best score for a TV production ever. I am not sure if it holds up to that title, but it sure was great, with Dracula-like chorus pieces, minimalistic of course as always with Kilar's music. In Kilar mode again. The vocal theme was sublime.2 points
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The Bear McCreary Thread
Yavar Moradi and one other reacted to Richard Penna for a topic
No doubt there's alternate material - we know of one minor one which is a track later on in the series where he recorded Halbrand's theme iirc, with two solo instruments to avoid clashing with dialogue. However, given that with a different release mentality this box could easily have been a highlights release (with maybe half of each score), the fact that it has nearly everything heard in the show is more than good enough for me.2 points -
The Official Anime Music Thread
Not Mr. Big and one other reacted to Knight of Ren for a topic
I've been watching this show and I really enjoyed the first season, and the soundtrack album was just released! Some beautiful stuff in there, especially the main theme by Satoru Kosaki, that plays in many of his cues. Kevin Penkin's contributions are also nice, but my favorite tracks are definitely in the first part of the album. I absolutely recommend both the show and the soundtrack. Lyrical, cute and emotional, and one of the biggest surprises of the year so far! Also, Hiroyuki Sawano's score for Solo Leveling was released, but I found it a bit underwhelming, relying on the same techniques he perfected in Attack on Titan, but without the emotional impact they had in there. The OP song is awesome as is DARK ARIA, and some cues are nice (big fan of part 8 of the symphonic suite), but overall is a bit of a disappointment.2 points -
The Bear McCreary Thread
Yavar Moradi and one other reacted to crocodile for a topic
Didn't he say they recorded something around 9 hours of music? If you are to eliminate all the repetition between compilation and episode albums, you'd end up with about 8 hours and 4 minutes (or tiny bit less if you were to remove anything but the first 40 seconds of Nolwa Mahtar and Shore's title theme). So there might be still an hour missing. To be honest, I can't see myself wanting more, sort of like I never really demanded the expansions for CR sets. Karol2 points -
Next James Bond actor after Daniel Craig?
Yavar Moradi and one other reacted to Naïve Old Fart for a topic
My favourite is THE TOWERING INFERNO, followed closely by EARTHQUAKE. Whatever one says about the film, some of the shots in ST:TMP, are jaw-droppingly beautiful.2 points -
Next James Bond actor after Daniel Craig?
Naïve Old Fart and one other reacted to Sweeping Strings for a topic
Meteor's original SFX director got fired and his work up to then was unusable, so others were brought in to reshoot the sequences with whatever was left in the budget. They were also fired, and again others were brought in to finish the effects with the (now presumably diminished even further) remaining budget cash and with 2 months to go to the release date.2 points -
Next James Bond actor after Daniel Craig?
Naïve Old Fart and one other reacted to Tallguy for a topic
I miss those "ALL THE CAST" little squares at the bottom of the posters. Obviously my favorite one was... Star Trek: The Motion Picture.2 points -
Christopher Young's "Nosferatu - A Symphony of Horror" CD
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The Bad Batch - The Clone Wars Spinoff show
Trope and one other reacted to Gabriel Bezerra for a topic
Yeah, there was something different about the animation in this episode and that was really showcased in their fight. Pabu without a sunny sky was a big red herring for me as I thought this was the one where the Empire gets there... sounds like I was an episode too early. I have no clue how this show is gonna end, but this episode made me contemplate the possibility of Omega parting ways with the Batch (sure, if the Batch even survives). Will Omega be able to use the Force (in a traditional way, as I'm sure she already uses it unknowingly) by the end of the series? Lots of questions and a lot to happen yet, this was basically a calm before the storm.2 points -
The Bad Batch - The Clone Wars Spinoff show
GerateWohl and one other reacted to JNHFan2000 for a topic
Episode 9 x The Harbinger Loved this!! Asajj Ventress has always been one of my favourite characters, so I loved seeing her here. Her fight scene with the Bad Batch, was extremely well done. Great choreograhpy and animation. I'm impressed by the animation each episode, it's just so inctedibly good. If you compare this to the Clone Wars film, it's remarkable! There was also some really great music in here. The statement of the bad batch theme during the fight was great and there were some really beautiful moments with Ventress & Omega. Next week 2 episodes! Let's see how quick the story is gonna move2 points -
The Bear McCreary Thread
Yavar Moradi and one other reacted to Tom Guernsey for a topic
Damn now I’ve ordered it 😂2 points -
The Classical Music Recommendation Thread
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On the topic of cello concertos, here's one of my favourites...written by John Williams' composition teacher!2 points -
James Newton Howard thread
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Pretty Woman to Hunger Games: The Film Music of James Newton Howard Phoenix Symphony Orchestra and chrous. James Newton Howard, conductor Orpheum Theater, Pheonix, AZ, November 15-17, 2024 https://www.phoenixsymphony.org/show/pretty-woman-to-hunger-games-the-film-music-of-james-newton-howard/2 points -
John Williams - Minority Report (LLL) This listen convinced me that this is one of Johnny's masterpieces. The blend of brooding introspection, unreachable memories of happier times, thrilling action and chase music, and vocals crying for justice is unparalleled in any other scores I've heard. I love how you can tell from listening that this fits right in between his prequel and Harry Potter scores, and is very post-AI pre-War of the Worlds, yet doesn't feel like it steals from any of those, its its own thing. And its fantastic from start to finish, especially the main program of the LLL edition. I forgot how much I like the alternate openings to The Crime and Freezing Water, so I'll probably swap those with their main program counterparts next time around. What a score!2 points
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Well, let's see... this was three days after my 9th birthday. It was a Friday, so the party was probably on the next day. We were living in a very small town during those days, which was wonderful for a kid, so they turned the local party room into a movie screening room, where they exhibited the recently released DVD for HP and the Philosopher's Stone. That because they saw that I liked movies and really liked Harry Potter, so they did a thematic party. I still remember when the movie begun and the John Williams theme over the Warner logo. I think I may have more memories of that than my actual session at the "official" movie theater six months before. Warner wouldn't like that if they knew it though I remember that those old DVDs had a lot of warnings against "public exhibitions" of the movie and etc.1 point
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Film Music Fans in Austria rejoice!
Jurassic Shark reacted to Thor for a topic
Yeah, although the "necro-posting" (or whatever it's called....I'm hesitant to call it necro-bumping) was unintentional in this case, I love it when these things happen. "16 years later"....great stuff. Where were you when I posted my first post here on May 24, 2002?1 point -
Upcoming Television Shows (and general TV chitchat)
JNHFan2000 reacted to Jay for a topic
So excited for Hacks Season 3! https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/hacks-season-3-first-look https://deadline.com/2024/03/hacks-season-3-jean-smart-hannah-einbinder-lucia-aniello-paul-w-downs-jen-statsky-interview-1235868843/ https://collider.com/hacks-season-3-jean-smart-hannah-einbinder/ https://www.screennearyou.com/news/hacks-season-3-the-unforgettable-journey-behind-the-beloved-show/1 point -
The Bear McCreary Thread
Edmilson reacted to Richard Penna for a topic
I've made some estimates before and I reckon it's around 5 minutes of proper unreleased cues or prominent sections. No doubt there is a bit more than that when considering edits to shorten tensions/sustains/etc, but in terms of music that's creatively important I don't think there's much at all.1 point -
The Bear McCreary Thread
Yavar Moradi reacted to Jurassic Shark for a topic
Leatherette gold-embossed slipcase with five printed digipaks (2 CDs per case) and 136-page booklet. And as a special thank you from Bear and his team, 200 copies from this numbered run are offered with an exclusive Bear McCreary autograph card inside. So he can write his name. Good for him.1 point -
General movie chitchat
Andy reacted to JNHFan2000 for a topic
The film fans who refuse to surrender to streaming: ‘One day you’ll barter bread for our DVDs’1 point -
The Bear McCreary Thread
Tom Guernsey reacted to Richard Penna for a topic
I don't find myself drawn to the complete albums that often, but there are a few set pieces and moments that are abridged or not presented properly on the OST. Plus when you like a score as much as me (and many) you want the entire thing even if it doesn't get a huge amount of playtime. I really didn't want to pay £80 for a bunch of downloaded files so while this set is 30% or so more, it feels like what we get (all the music plus the OST and the book) makes it worth it, and those who just have the downloads don't feel left out with any content exclusive to this box.1 point -
The Bear McCreary Thread
Tom Guernsey reacted to Marian Schedenig for a topic
Yes, I've mostly stuck to the suite myself. But partly I think that's because it's an album condensation of the full scores that's very long on its own, but at the same time presents only a fragment of the full scores. My hope is that the complete scores might present a better listening experience on their own by being both shorter and more coherent individually than the longer full season album.1 point -
James Newton Howard thread
Jurassic Shark reacted to Thor for a topic
A JNH concert sounds great, but clicking at the link, only post-millennium scores are mentioned in the blurb, which I (for the most part) find underwhelming. If this had focussed on the 80s and 90s stuff, I'd be totally envious of anyone able to attend.1 point -
Next James Bond actor after Daniel Craig?
Badzeee reacted to Sweeping Strings for a topic
Bond and a meteor? They already did that, and it apparently didn't turn out too well. That reminds me, one of the ideas that was mooted for Zorin's eeeevil scheme in AVTAK was him manipulating the course of Halley's Comet.1 point -
The Custom Covers Thread
Steffromuk reacted to Cameron007 for a topic
Stef, you never cease to amaze. Great work!1 point -
Next James Bond actor after Daniel Craig?
Yavar Moradi reacted to mstrox for a topic
Meteor strike is pretty drastic for a franchise that has had as many lousy movies as James Bond.1 point -
TPM is my favorite Prequel movie. First SW movie I saw in theaters. I didn't give a shit about SW at the time, but I loved that movie so much. Sure I didn't understand a lick of the politics, but it had Anakin and Darth Maul. I remember loving the concept of Darth Vader as a kid (stay mad Prequel haters) It kinda blew my brain. also Star Wars Episode 1: Pod Racer for N64 was rented and re-rented from Blockbuster so many times they might as well let me own it. That said....haven't seen this movie in forever...but the Prequels are so fun to go back to, unlike the DT. Wanna know why? Cause ultimately, even with all the warts, they are a labor of love.1 point
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Your Favourite Movie Quotes
HunterTech reacted to Groovygoth666 for a topic
"Waaiitt I still function" "Wonna bet!"1 point -
Danny Elfman's NIGHTBREED (1990) - 2024 Intrada
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https://www.facebook.com/share/xzPXyC4MpBjqgWfS/ After a long wait, the expanded edition arrives next Tuesday. In the meantime, there's this:1 point -
This may have been discussed elsewhere, but is anyone considering the Episode I rescreening early May 2024 (25th Anniversary)?1 point
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The Custom Covers Thread
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The Complete Cue Lists Thread
enderdrag64 reacted to MarkTDD for a topic
Lorne Balfe - Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning (2023) Sources: GEMA (source of cue order), ASCAP, Known cue number sources: eddiehamilton.com (the Avid timelines contain different cue numbers for some cue titles, i've listed the best ones, Synchron Stage IG, Lorne Balfe IG 1m01 Bering Sea - Lorne Balfe, Bobby Tahouri, Stuart Michael Thomas Course 100 - Lorne Balfe, Bobby Tahouri, Stuart Michael Thomas 1m03 It Vanished - Stuart Michael Thomas 1m04 Torpedo Not Responding - Lorne Balfe, Kevin Blumenfeld, Stuart Michael Thomas 1m05a (1m08) Mission Briefing - Lorne Balfe, Max Aruj, Stuart Michael Thomas 1m09 Braid Attack (called Desert Fight on EH's Avid timeline) - Lorne Balfe 2m11 (3m11) What Are We Dealing With - Bobby Tahouri, Stuart Michael Thomas 2m12 Gas Mask - Lorne Balfe, Kevin Riepl, Stuart Michael Thomas Reunited - Lorne Balfe, Max Aruj 2m13 I Understand You’re Upset - Lorne Balfe, Max Aruj, Bobby Tahouri Kittridge Mask - Lorne Balfe, Bobby Tahouri, Stuart Michael Thomas Kittridge Darted - Lorne Balfe 1m07 Main Titles - Lorne Balfe 2m15 Briggs and Degas - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Bobby Tahouri 2m16 (3m16) Airport - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Kevin Riepl, Stuart Michael Thomas 2m16 (3m16) Airport (Cont) - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey 3m18 Bomb Riddles Part 1 - Lorne Balfe, Max Aruj 3m18 Bomb Riddles Part 2 - Lorne Balfe, Stuart Michael Thomas 3m19 We’ve Been Had - Lorne Balfe, Max Aruj, Stuart Michael Thomas 3m20 Airport Flight - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey Keep Tabs on This Woman - Lorne Balfe 4m22 Magistrate Spezzi - Lorne Balfe, Bobby Tahouri, Stuart Michael Thomas 4m23 (3m23) Grazie Agente - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Peter Adams 4m24 Your Friends From The Airport - Lorne Balfe, Peter Adams Grace Crash - Bobby Tahouri 4m26a Italian Standoff - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Stuart Michael Thomas 4m26b Handcuffs - Lorne Balfe, Bobby Tahouri You’re Driving - Lorne Balfe Yellow Fiat - Lorne Balfe Fiat Reverse - Lorne Balfe 4m30 (5m30) Team Arrives In Venice - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey It’s Protecting Him - Lorne Balfe, Max Aruj 5m31 He Calls Himself Gabriel - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Stuart Michael Thomas 5m35 Interested Party - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Stuart Michael Thomas 5m37 Run As Far As You Can - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Peter Adams, Stuart Michael Thomas 5m38 Ducale Palace Fight - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey 5m39 Entity Hacks Comms - Lorne Balfe, Peter Adams, Stuart Michael Thomas 5m41 (6m41) You Are Done - Stuart Michael Thomas 5m41 (6m41) You Are Done (Cont) - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Stuart Michael Thomas 6m42 I Was Hoping It’d Be You - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Bobby Tahouri, Kevin Riepl 6m43 Bridge Loss - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey 6m44 What If - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Stuart Michael Thomas You Don’t Even Know Me - Lorne Balfe 6m46a Do Not Alter The Plan - Lorne Balfe, Max Aruj, Stuart Michael Thomas 6m46b Mask Machine - Stuart Michael Thomas Orient Express - Lorne Balfe, Kevin Riepl, Stuart Michael Thomas Talk To Me Benji - Lorne Balfe, Stuart Michael Thomas 7m48 Gabriel Hijacks The Train - Lorne Balfe, Kevin Riepl, Stuart Michael Thomas I Missed The Train - Lorne Balfe, Stuart Michael Thomas 7m50b Widow Swap - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Stuart Michael Thomas, Bobby Tahouri You’re Not Alana - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Stuart Michael Thomas 7m51 My Terms Have Changed - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Stuart Michael Thomas, Bobby Tahouri Paris Searched - Max Aruj, Bobby Tahouri, Stuart Michael Thomas 7m53a Where’s Gabriel - Lorne Balfe, Bobby Tahouri, Stuart Michael Thomas It Won’t Be Long - Lorne Balfe, Bobby Tahouri 7m53 Operation Rasputine - Lorne Balfe, Bobby Tahouri, Stuart Michael Thomas Paris Stab - Lorne Balfe, Kevin Riepl, Bobby Tahouri 7m54 Commission - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Stuart Michael Thomas, Bobby Tahouri, Peter Adams 7m55 Cliff Edge (source: Lorne Balfe's IG; not listed on any repertories) - Lorne Balfe Jump Off Cliff - Lorne Balfe, Bobby Tahouri, Max Aruj 7m58a Transfer Declined - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Stuart Michael Thomas 8m58b Zola Fires - Lorne Balfe, Bobby Tahouri 8m59 Ethan and Gabriel Fight - Lorne Balfe, Bobby Tahouri, Joshua Pacey, Kevin Riepl 8m60 I Know What You Need to Know - Lorne Balfe, Bobby Tahouri, Stuart Michael Thomas 8m61 Gabriel Falls Onto Truck - Lorne Balfe, Kevin Riepl, Stuart Michael Thomas 8m64 Paris Rescue - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey Grace Climbs - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Stuart Michael Thomas 8m64c Last Carriage Falls - Cecile Tournesac 9m65 Parachute Escape - Lorne Balfe, Max Aruj, Joshua Pacey, Peter Adams, Stuart Michael Thomas 9m66 (10m66) Curtain Call (source: Lorne Balfe's IG; not listed on any repertories) - Lorne Balfe He Calls Himself Gabriel Reprise - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey, Stuart Michael Thomas Your Friends From The Airport Reprise - Lorne Balfe, Peter Adams I Was Hoping It’d Be You (Unused) - Lorne Balfe, Joshua Pacey1 point -
The Bad Batch - The Clone Wars Spinoff show
Gabriel Bezerra reacted to JNHFan2000 for a topic
Bad Batch albums are always released a week after the 8th of 16th episode. So it's either this week or they're doing one big one at the end of the season1 point -
Christopher Young's "Nosferatu - A Symphony of Horror" CD
Yavar Moradi reacted to crocodile for a topic
I think these things tend to happen. I bet there will be a huge push towards the end and they will find some wealthier donors. By the way, all the samples sound amazing. Karol1 point