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  1. https://www.facebook.com/varesesarabanderecords/photos/a.207302096128750/1417357701789844/
    8 points
  2. Yeah, this whole thread is wrong.
    4 points
  3. Because his body blew up with the Death Star. There shouldn't be any coming back from that. I don't like that Darth Maul lived after being cut in half and falling down a huge shaft either. If they both survived then it's dumb that Qui Gon died. Oh, yeah, Dark side blah blah blah. Dumb. Secondly, the story doesn't need Palpatine. Ren and Hux should have been the main villains of Episode 9. Palpatine coming back and Hux becoming a spy were both dumb. YES. I very much wanted her to be a nobody. There was no reason to make her a Palpatine. The movie doesn't explain that she's a daughter of a Palpatine clone. That may have helped make it less dumb than thinking Palpatine had a family we had no idea existed, which is the impression everyone had until the novel came out. Trevorrow or Rian Johnson should have done Episode 9. Abrams fucked up.
    4 points
  4. The proof is the giant dump Abrams took on Rian Johnson's film.
    3 points
  5. Does "a CD Club drop" mean 1 title, or any number of titles? 🤔 Here's hoping for Horner's BRAINSTORM in either case
    3 points
  6. There is more evidence that there was no plan than there is evidence of there being a plan. Your conspiracy theories sound pathetic.
    3 points
  7. They're both utter masterpieces, but I have to go with Potter. That score really moves me emotionally -- albeit perhaps in large part because the film is near and dear to my heart. Just such wonderful marriage of music and picture (at least to those who like the movie):
    3 points
  8. I doubt it. Abrams only came up with this after TLJ. If it had been intended from the beginning it would have been in Trevorrow's script. Don't tell me that Trevorrow's script was a hoax. Way too much time was spent on it just to distract the fans. Didn't most of it leak after TROS came out? What would be the point? I don't know about you but I can agree to disagree because you're nuts.
    3 points
  9. The Godfathers Part 1 and 2 and The Lord of the Rings Parts 1, 2, and 3 are great and deserve their reputations. And I say this without their ranking among my subjective favorites. Let's separate the films themselves from the folks who think jumping on a convenient and obvious bandwagon is a sign of good taste and being edgy, shall we?.
    2 points
  10. Length is usually irrelevant to me, it's all about the sequencing and general representation of the score. That being said, I can't really think of any OSTs that were too long at 40 minutes, even those that are mono-thematic and/or relatively static. Well, scores I dislike to begin with are too long at even 1 minute (Giacchino stuff, for example), but that's a different discussion.
    2 points
  11. There is *finally* a commercial recording of one of my favorite orchestral pieces of the last 20-or-so years, Lowell Liebermann's fantastic Trumpet Concerto written in 1999. This is really the only trumpet concerto that's truly in competition with John Williams' for me (although I haven't heard Goldenthal's yet!). I think Liebermann's music is perfect for fans of the classic Hollywood romantic film score style. It's tracks 2 - 4 on this album: https://open.spotify.com/album/4K4LWwNxFDemgu61oZ18XV?si=drr9u1E5T7CqgPLLYSBhyg Or here's a playlist
    2 points
  12. I don't know where you get your delusions.
    2 points
  13. Might as well complete the triptych and break down Born On The Fourth Of July, too, though it’s by far the most straightforward of the three, with no cue combinations at all. Cue list: 1MX Trumpet Prologue 1M1 Acting Out The Future 1M1 Alt - Kids At Play 1M1A Earliest Memories 1M5 Early Days 2M1 On The Mat 2M2 The Call To Duty 2M3 Recruiting Scene 2M4 After The Soda Shoppe 4M2 The Shooting Of Wilson 5M1 (New Start) Ron Is Hit 5M1 Ron Is Hit 5MA Approaching The Village 7M1 The Homecoming 8M3X Parade Overlay 8M4 Off The Platform 10M1 Campus Rally 11M2 To Mexico 12M5 Shopping For Present 12M7 Montage Of Girls 12M8 Writing The Wilsons 13M1 To Georgia 13M1 Insert 15M1 Convention Disturbance 15M2 The 1972 Convention 15M3 Alternate 15M3 Short Version End Credit Intro End Credits Ron’s Theme OST breakdown: 1–8 Various pop songs 9 Prologue 1:24 1M1 Acting Out The Future 10 The Early Days, Massapequa 5:00 1M5 Early Days 11 The Shooting Of Wilson 5:09 4M2 The Shooting Of Wilson 12 Cua Viet River, Vietnam, 1968 5:20 0:00-0:31 5M1 (New Start) Ron Is Hit 0:31-end 5M1 Ron Is Hit 13 Homecoming 2:39 0:00-0:55 13M1 To Georgia 0:55-end 13M1 Insert 14 Born On The Fourth Of July 5:42 End Credits
    2 points
  14. It's a piece that introduces all the major thematic ideas for the film. It works wonderfully in the trailer, doesn't really have a place in the movie per se. It's a brilliant overture and perfect encapsulation of the score. Being used in the movie or not does not diminish it in any way. It's like saying overtures or main titles are disappointingly only used over text and not dramatic scenes
    2 points
  15. Some of this stuff is scattered among too many albums so I decided to make a play list grouping them. I only try to put "extended" or revised concert versions that were not on the OST's for this playlist Star Wars: Han Solo and the Princess (Original): Big Screen Adventure,City of Prague or NPO Gerhardt recording Han Solo and the Princess (Revised): Music from the Star Wars Saga , Zeigler The Flag Parade: The Phantom Menace and other Film Score Hits The Adventures of Jar Jar : The Phantom Menace and other Film Score Hits Battle of the Heroes(Orchestral): Star Wars Heptalogy Adagio : Celebrating John Williams, Dudamel The Jedi Steps: Lights Camera Music Jabba the Hutt : Skywalker Symphony Asteroid Field :Skywalker Symphony The Little People work(Skywalker Orchestra) Here they Come (Skywalker Orchestra) The Last Battle :Zubin Metha and Los Angeles Philharmonics or NPO Gerhardt recording Duel of the Fates (Orchestral) (Hollywood Symphonic Concert,Kanawaga Philharmonic Orchestra) .Edit out of the TPM Suite. Harry Potter: Double Trouble(orchestral) :Budafok Dohnanyi Orchestra. (Extract from You Tube Video) Double Trouble (with choir) :Harry Potter Collection City of Prague Orchestra Window to the Past: Harry Potter Collection City of Prague Orchestra Arguably the entire Children's Suite minus Hedwig's Theme and Harry's Wondrous World (HP Box Set) Indiana Jones: Scherzo for Motorcycle and Orchestra (Revised):Celebrating John Williams ,Dudamel Marion's Theme (Revised): Spielberg/Williams Collaboration part 3 or Celebrating John Williams,Dudamel Parade of the Slave Children:Spielberg/Williams Collaboration Part 1 The Basket Chase: Spielberg/Williams Collaboration Part 2 Irina's Theme :Slovak Philharmonic Orchestra Midway March (Long Version): I Love a Parade,Boston Pops Men of the Yorktown March :Lights Camera Music or FSO JW Special Jaws Theme: Spielberg/Williams Collaboration Part 1 Out to Sea/The Shark cage Fugue:Spielberg/Williams Collaboration Part 1 Cadillac of the Skies :Spielberg/Williams Collaboration Part 1 Jim's New Life: Spielberg/Williams Collaboration Part 2 Hook: Flight to Neverland :Spielberg/Williams Collaboration Part 2 Smee's Plan :Spielberg/Williams Collaboration Part 2 Face of Pan: Spielberg/Williams Collaboration Part 2 When Your Alone :City of Prague :40 years of Film Music or Best of John Williams Andrew Lane and Orlando Pops Lost Boys Ballet (Spielberg/Williams collaboration part 2) The Banquet (Spielberg/Williams Collaboration Part2) Jane Eyre At Lowood:Pops Britannia Jane Eyre To Thornfield:Pops Britannia Jane Eyre The Return :Pops Britannnia The Accidental Tourist (Love Theme): The Best of John Williams-Richard Hayman, Naxos The Cowboys Overture :By Request Boston Pops Sayuri's Theme :Celebrating John Williams ,Dudamel Going to School revised : on Sony compilation The Poseidon Adventure(Prelude):Disaster! album Yes Georgio!If We Were in Love :Boston Pops (Aisle Seat) Close Encounters: Spielberg/Williams Collaboration Part 1 Battle of Hollywood :Spielberg/Williams Collaboration Part 2 My Friend The Brachiosaurus: Spielberg/Williams Collaboration Part 2 BFG Suite: Spielberg/Williams Collaboration Part 3 With Malice Towards None : Spielberg/Williams Collaboration Part 3 With Malice Towards None(alt): Spielberg/Williams Collaboration Part 3 Tintin The Duel: Spielberg/Williams Collaboration Part 3 Dartmoor,1912: Spielberg/Williams Collaboration Part 3 A New Beginning (Minority Report) Spielberg/Williams Collaboration Part 3 Catch Me if You Can Movement 1,2,3. Spielberg/Williams Collaboration Part 3 Heidi Overture:Lights Camera Music Goodbye Mr Chips Overture :Lights Camera music Towering Inferno: Lights Camera Music Stargazers:Lights Camera Music The Patriot Suite Version 1:Lights Camera Music ,Boston Pops JW Arrangement The Patriot Suite Version 2: FSO : JW Special , From Hal Leonard The Reivers: Music for Stage and Screen The Lost World Theme : 1999 Great movie Scores Kunzel or FSO JW Special The Book Thief: FSO JW Special Nice to Be Around (Cinderella Liberty): Across the Stars Dances of the witches(Hooray for Hollywood) The Ballroom Scene(Hooray for Hollywood) Always Theme (Spielberg/Williams collaboration Part.1) Sugarland Express (spielberg/Williams Collaboration Part1) Born on the Fourth of July Theme (Music for Stage and Screen) .You can edit out cleanly New Car in Town and The Horse Race if you can't stand the Narration -Not Revised or Approved by JW Himself: Black Sunday Suite (Giants of Cinema City of Prague, or Close Encounters compilation) Earthquake(Love Theme):Disaster! album War of the Worlds suite:Philharmonics 2 War of the Worlds :Kunzel itunes Lost in Space Themes : Cincinati Pops YouYube Extract Jaws 2: The Greatest Musics of John Williams *****Still Unreleased in Good Sounding Recording)***** Leaving Home from Superman(Revised for Oscars Memoriam) Face of Pan 2013 Re-Revision 3 Pieces from Lincoln with amazing new version of Getting out the Vote Diagon Alley (Alternate bombastic ending) Let me know what I forgot. I didn't include the Mutter album on purpose
    1 point
  16. For nostalgia reasons, I voted for HP. I watched Philosopher's Stone on theaters when I was 8 and then countless other times on DVD, meanwhile I've never seen Hook until this day. Both scores are amazing, but I find HP to be the richer score.
    1 point
  17. Harry Potter. It's actually Tier 1, not Hook.
    1 point
  18. Well I suppose they took it down after posting because Robert Drasnin's name was spelled wrong in the flyer (not but the album cover), so a fixed version will probably be posted when it's ready
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  20. Not even close! Love Field has a central action cue (in the film) and a hell of a lot of other music (not in the film or on the original 28 minute album) still unreleased. I think an expansion of that would likely be a revelation. Speaking of more classic scores, The Other and both Flint scores are *over half unreleased*! Now we do have the Twilight Time isolated score tracks which double the time and give us an idea of all the other wonderful music that hasn't been put out on CD...but all three of these feature film micro-edits and such and even they are not the complete scores. The Mephisto Waltz is missing at least three cues as well as missing overlays and generally having an inaccurate mix on the previous Varese release. This is a masterpiece that needs a definitive edition. Medicine Man and City Hall are only missing 12-15 minutes of music, but I love both scores and want every note. Rudy and The 13th Warrior are generally beloved and even if the ~20 minutes of unreleased music is just more variations on the same material, I think it's still perfectly valid to want them...this is Goldsmith we are talking about, and he almost always did *something* new with each variation. Hollow Man and Along Came a Spider are not favorites of mine at all but they're missing a lot more music and I know many people do want them. And even though there are boots of varying quality, we *obviously* need definitive official editions of both Matinee and Looney Tunes: Back in Action (complete with the John Debney finale cues...so that there IS a finale to the score even if it doesn't quite reach Goldsmith levels). C'mon. Oh yeah...Timeline too! (Even though the boot sounds great...gimme officially licensed, all the way!) Oh yeah and "honorary Dante score" Mom and Dad Save the World has some great unreleased music (and the boot is TERRIBLE sounding). How could I forget? (So many people seem to.) Yavar P.S. you're the only one bringing up Criminal Law, publicist...even though I don't think that score deserves the hatred it gets it's not remotely one of my favorites, and I think the existing album is the complete score or very very close to it.
    1 point
  21. This is from the live-to-projection version, but should be pretty close (especially since it uses mostly the original handwritten full scores, unlike most other LTPs), apart from missing the cues that weren’t used in the film (I think there’s two of those): [1M1 20th Century Fox Trademark] 1M2 Home Alone 1M4 Go Pack Your Suitcase 1M5 Introducing Marley 1M8/2M1 In Good Hands 2M2 Banishes To The Attic 2M3 We Slept In!! 3M1 The Basement 3M4 Target Practice 3M6 Sledding On The Stairs 3M7 Lights On 4M1 Paris Arrival 4M2 Guess Who's Home 4M4 The Man In The House 4M5 Police Check 4M7 The Bookshelf 5M1 Phone Machine 5M2 The Drugstore Scene 5M3/4 Escape Across The Ice 5M6 Follow That Kid 6M6 Cleaning Clothes 7M2 Kitchen Scene 7M4 Scammed By A Kindergartener 7M7 Walking Home 7M7A O Holy Night [source] 7M7B Star Of Bethlehem [source] 7M7C Carol Of The Bells [source] 8M6 Setting The Trap 9M1+2 The Attack Begins 9M3 John Wayne Enters The Basement 9M4+5 A Hot Hand 9M6/10M1 Sore Head 10M2 Paint Cans 10M3 Clothesline Trapeze 10M4 Marley To The Rescue 10M5 Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas - Mel Torme Vocal 11M1 The Next Morning 11M2 Mom Returns 11M3 Finale 11M4 We Wish You A Merry Christmas End Credits Holiday Flight Somewhere In My Memory Star Of Bethlehem
    1 point
  22. Oh sure, I also smuggle drugs and exotic animals whenever I can...
    1 point
  23. I don't work at customs. if they charge me, I pay, if they don't, I won't aproach them to pay voluntarily
    1 point
  24. Great news about the shipping out of the UK. Customs were always unforgiving with Varese's shipments
    1 point
  25. True or false: Saving Private Ryan?
    1 point
  26. Interesting! I'm sure what happened was, then, was that as post-production went on, the 9 reel film shrunk to an 8 reel film, so 8M5 NEW was actually the final slate of the end credits. Neat! Main post updated.
    1 point
  27. So...it's teddy bears vs a lesbian snog, and a "come on". Yer pays yer money, and yer takes yer choice
    1 point
  28. Tough call. But I'd say stronger main theme for Harry Potter gives it a slightly edge in being a more cohesive score. But of course Hook is also an outstanding score and both are great Williams classic masterpieces. Great call here. I think Harry Potter is definitely helped by being mixed so loudly and prominently in a watchable entertaining film. It's been some time since I saw Hook so I don't quite now how it is featured in the film - whether it is butchered or mixed low - I don't remember. But HP1 must pretty much take the cake as probably the best film Williams score to listen to "in movie".
    1 point
  29. Chen G.

    Star Wars Disenchantment

    I know that was George Lucas' original concept. He even brought it back up during story conferences for Return of the Jedi, so you know it lingered. But the issue wasn't adressed within the films themselves until the prequel trilogy, where using the Force is re-established as something one is born with. Honestly, its one of those instances where Lucas' retconning actually fooled me, and I initially just accepted that the Force is hereditary. Frankly, it fits better with the fairytale nature of Star Wars. Not to me. I only watch/consider canon what I like and find that contributes to the story. The end of the saga are the victory celebrations on Endor in Return of the Jedi. But as an end for the sequel trilogy? Yes, I would have preferred - and had preferred since 2015 - for Kylo to die unredeemed and for Rey to be a nobody.
    1 point
  30. Mattris

    Star Wars Disenchantment

    Evidence? Like what, specifically? How substantive is that evidence? 'More' of nothing is still nothing. Your ignorance - combined with so much empty talk - makes you pathetic. A different writer and director for VIII does not mean that the plan wasn't maintained from the beginning. Having said that, I think it's clear that Disney/Lucasfilm wanted us to think they had no plan. (If they had a plan, they could have cleared this up long ago.) Many think that Rian Johnson messed up the plan. Both theories are false, and I can prove it. (The music clues would be enough for me, but I have much more.) Still two answers to go, @Chen G. .
    1 point
  31. He rarely makes political comments, but yes -- obviously. He's composed themes for both Michael Dukakis and Obama.
    1 point
  32. Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. A somewhat foreboding start of the day. It doesn't necessarily translate to the most enjoyable of albums but it is a clever and effective score nonetheless. Karol
    1 point
  33. As wonderful as HP is, I must say Hook. Such masterful orchestration and the sheer variety of extraordinary themes. I love the ballet-like quality of the score. It always makes me dream of what could have been, if the original project for a Peter Pan musical had become a reality.
    1 point
  34. Arpy

    Star Wars Disenchantment

    Coming to this thread everytime it's bumped:
    1 point
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  36. He comically chews the shit out of it, and he's hilarious yes. Even though he's only in one of 'em, Crispin Glover was the most brilliant comedy performance in the whole series.
    1 point
  37. What about Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone? Or Hook?
    1 point
  38. Not how it started out. For the 1st film, it had a female protagonist and a male antagonist. The 2nd film moved him into anti-hero territory and the 3rd film straight up moved him into the protagonist column. It didn't seem like an organic evolution to me. It brought absolutely nothing to the table. Nothing at all that we didn't see in 1 to 6. It rolled a generic - evil bad guys want to subjugate the universe. Good people will rebel story. This was the story of 4 to 6. To its credit, 1 to 3 actually rolled out quite a different story with a very different emphasis. So it feels necessary and earned. But not 7 to 9. Seems like a pointless rehash of 4 to 6 without adding even a single new element of interest of any kind. I think the intention in 7 was clearly to have Snoke be the big bad. Johnson killed him in the middle of the film. I think the set-up in 7 was for Luke to play a major role going forward. Johnson killed him. The intention for Rey was to advance in her abilities in some way. She just gets to levitate some rocks at the end. I think the intention was for Rey to play a major role in the resistance. She gets caught in a side subplot for the entire film - basically providing character development for Kylo. And lastly Johnson dead-ended 8 with no momentum leading into anything. To hell for all I care. Couldn't give a fuck. I would say, the choice of protagonist is the author's prerogative. But they just told us she is the lead without anything more meaningful. So I might be tempted to say she wasn't but for the marketing and the film-makers telling us so. And because typically the jedi figures are seen as the "leads" in the skywalker saga.
    1 point
  39. What primarily made Chernobyl great was the writing of Craig Mazin: all the years of research he did, the structure he came up with, the composite characters, the way he was able to explain the complex situation that happened, the framing device of the suicide, etc. It WAS also directed amazingly by Johan Renck no question about it, but the success of a Last of Us adaptation, or almost any TV project really, is more about having the right writer than the right director IMO. I'm not familiar with Neil Druckmann , but hopefully Mazin knocks it out of the park again (Chernobyl was one of the best things I saw on television in the entirety of the 2010s), and hopefully Renck does too
    1 point
  40. The statement by Morricone has class and grace as well, and is a little more personal: https://www.fpa.es/en/princess-of-asturias-awards/laureates/2020-ennio-morricone-and-john-williams.html?texto=declaracion&especifica=0 "solitude", work "ethic", "constant dedication" are indeed also words that we have seen applied to Williams.
    1 point
  41. Nice ! But they should have given the award to a real artist, Hildur Gudnadottir for example, rather than some movie composers...
    1 point
  42. Whew. I gotta stop somewhere. The rest is coming tomorrow.
    1 point
  43. I think only people who’ve read the books will get it.
    1 point
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