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Well, pre-announces actually: COMING SOON LIMITED EDITION (3-CD SET)

Out for delivery, AT LAST! 😍

Yes. He is the only person JW wants to handle his catalog now. The Quartet Tom Sawyer is the last JW catalog title that came out without MM in charge.

Jim Bowers has announced a Superman podcast with Mike Matessino : Courtesy Jim Bowers on his Facebook Superman page: Episode 4 of the CapedWonder Superman Podcast has launched! Our very special guest is Mike Matessino! We are thrilled that he joined us for this special episode! http://bit.ly/CapedWonder4. www.iheart.com/podcast/512-the-caped-wonder-superman-30202758/episode/special-edition-superman-soundtrack-anniversary-with-30328627/ MP3 LINK: http://www.capedwonder.com/CapedWonder_podcasts/CW_SUPERMAN_PODCAST_EP4_DEC_20_2018.mp3?fbclid=IwAR17lS3XvEeh6Bb5kFWZ7fucWahO3wuoPjvrRFSsOFulIlzmQLAZfxALFyU You can read more about Mike here: http://www.mikematessino.com/biography/

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It's a service Jay provides. He fixes typos at the expense of missing the point.

That's an old movie. - KM

WTF. Again??? Edit: Oh, this thread is from 2012. 😂

Mike Mattesino is like a reverse Orson Welles or George Lucas!

New album Nocturne in January. Listen to this. Beautiful.

If you close your eyes and listen you would think you were listening to a score to a Christmas movie. It didn’t fit for me. It’s wonderful and cheery and I guess a breath of fresh air after the gloom of Star Trek 3 but in my opinion it didn’t fit and it bothered me when I first heard it.

This cue has always been one of my holy grails! I especially love the transition of the previously unreleased material (Hermione asking "Is that what my hair looks from behind?") to the OST material... Harry starting to approach Buckbeak. Pure adrenaline and excitement!!

I don't think it's possible to answer this question completely. It's tricky to know when music stops being jazz and becomes something else. One could also say that, since Williams comes from a jazz background, then everything he writes must be slightly influenced by jazz. But even then, let's say Williams had never come from a jazz background and doesn't listen to jazz, but listens to a lot of late Ravel, who himself was influenced by jazz...would that make him influenced by jazz? Anyway, the two elements which stand out for me the most from that excerpt are the dissonant brass chords and the crazy brass interludes, which I guess could sound a little jazzy (probably avant-garde jazz). But also, the dissonant chords sound like they could come from The Matrix: Whereas the crazy stuff reminds me a little of La Befana: Note, I intentionally chose non avant-garde sounding examples.

Recently, the question of how much of the CoS score was done by William Ross came up, and I said I'd do an analysis basen on what we have. Well here it is! There are also a lot of misconceptions thrown around about how much of the score is just retreading the first one, I hope my final numbers can put an end to that. Any thoughts and corrections on calculating errors, typos and unnoticed references are most welcome! I'm using the leaked PS and CoS sessions, so the main analysis will only take into account the final intended version of every cue so far known to be recorded for the movie, no unused/not recorded music from leaked sheets and no tracked cues. I will assume satisfactory knowledge of the movies and all major themes at least. I've also decided to have a look at the OST and recommend the best cues not on it, and also to break down the major tracked cues appearing in the cue list, just for completion's sake - look for the Appendix at the end of this post. The Analysis My custom terminology OM - Old Material, used in PS, similar tempo, similar orchestration - will reference PS session cues, slates and timecodes if relevant, won't if unnecessary (I don't have to point out where Nimbus 2000 is in Hedwig's Theme) AM - Adapted Material, themes/specific cues used in PS or other movies, but adapted/orchestration and tempo changed significantly enough (like Nimbus 2000 in Cakes for Crabbe and Goyle, for example) NM - New Material, thematic and melodic material first heard in CoS From Reel 3 onwards, I'll be using contractions for frequently reappearing themes with long and tedious names : 3NL - 3-Note Loop (original Philosopher's Stone motif here repurposed as a generic danger/mystery theme) HWWO - Harry's Wondrous World Opening N2 - Nimbus 2000 Reel 1 Reel 1 Old Material: 05:52 Adapted Material: 03:19 New Material: 06:07 Complete: 15:18 Reel 2 Reel 2 Old Material: 5:56 Adapted Material: 3:22 New Material: 8:40 Complete: 17:58 Reel 3 Reel 3 Old Material: 2:49 Adapted Material: 3:51 New Material: 5:43 Complete: 12:23 Here I must also stop to say the movie must have been criminally overspotted, because a lot of good and new bits have been left out. Normally, lots of bits and pieces go missing, because the picture gets trimmed after the recording takes place, so the music goes with them, but here most scenes are intact and the music is taken out from under them, for example the beginning of Transformation Class (I guess they wanted the 3NL to be more sudden and dramatic in its appearance?) or the Whomping Willow and some Spiders material (probably tension and "jumpscare" reasons). This could potentially be forgiven had most of Reel 8 not been tracked - a lot of important action score, mysteries and big revelations to never see the light of day because JW had to spend his time writing minutes of unrecorded music, and writing and recording several more minutes that were not used. Kind of like The Arena vs. The Battle of Geonosis all over again! Reel 4 Reel 4 Old Material: 3:40 Adapted Material: 1:54 New Material: 8:46 Complete: 14:20 Reel 5 Reel 5 Old Material: 2:05 Adapted Material: 4:57 New Material: 7:20 Complete: 14:22 Reel 6 Reel 6 Old Material: 2:40 Adapted Material: 1:27 New Material: 3:31 Complete: 7:38 Reel 7 Reel 7 Old Material: 4:56 Adapted Material: 1:54 New Material: 9:58 Complete: 16:48 Reel 8 Reel 8 Old Material: 00:00 Adapted Material: 2:16 New Material: 9:35 Complete: 11:51 Reel 9 Reel 9 Old Material: 4:13 Adapted Material: 3:24 New Material: 4:14 Complete: 11:51 Conclusions Standout NM cues: All Dobby material, Magical Household, all Lockhart material, all Flying Car material, all Fawkes material, Writing on the Wall, Transformation Class, Petrified Colin, Dueling Club, The Spiders Pt.2, Ginny Gets Snatched, Reel 8 Standout OM cues: Escape from the Dursleys, Letters from Hogwarts, Harry meets Lucius, Introducing Colin / Mail, Flying Pixies, Dumbledore and Harry, Reunion of Friends Total Numbers: Complete: 2:02:29 Old Material: 32:11 (26.27%) Adapted Material: 26:24 (21.55%) New Material: 63:54 (52.17%) Discrepancies between the final numbers and the cue list numbers can come down to podium changes, or the fact that I couldn't be bothered to count the seconds of silence on the beginning of every sessions track or in the middle of some cues. The final percentages would not be impacted in any significant way. So on an expanded 2-disc release, counting with 78 min. max per disc, there would be at least 36:40 left for bonus material, probably a few minutes more, since the aforementioned silences and properly joined tracks would make the score shorter than my estimate. I believe we have no idea how many alternates exist/were recorded/were even written, if not many, this could probably house the Children's Suite (24:11 if we count Harry's Wondrous World as the finale, 18:50 if we don't). We'll 100% get HWW as the HP1 Credits, so on HP2 it'll either be the Credits or the Suite (and thus the CD2) finale, if the suite or even the HWW is on there, of course. Appendices Appendix A Reel 10 (Additional material, I don't consider these part of the score) Appendix B The tracked cues - what do they consist of? (An editing guide) Appendix C A complete intended score editing guide This includes every single sessions cue (even ones removed from the movie) and tracked cues. Note: this is simply a guide to my preferred way of listening to the score, not an attempt at a complete film edit recreation with all edited out bits and pieces tracked down; that exceeds even my patiance and tolerance levels, it's work for another year - and probably another user. (A Remixed and Restored trilogy á la Jurassic Park based on the Black Friday John Williams Harry Potter Collection, perhaps? :P) I consider two types of edits: hard and soft. A hard edit means two cues were written to be joined/overlapped, but recorded separately. Listening to them separate worsens the listening experience because you get a buildup to an unsatisfying climax, a few seconds of silence, then a sudden out-of-nowhere climax and continuation. Temple of Doom, for example, is filled with these types of transitions. A soft edit just means one cue is winding down/a note is held, while the other starts or winds up without there being a gap between these. Not joining these cues does not necessarily worsen the listening experience. Hard edits I always recreate, this means I had to split a few tracked cues in half in Reel 8 to avoid overstuffed, non-focused 15 minute tracks. Soft ones I'm more liberal with - if it makes sense musically and thematically as one track, I'll even join cues separated by seconds of silence in the movie. Since there are way more soft edits than hard ones, I'll only indicate hard edits (+ and +h instead of +s and +h). The final track names are my own creations, sometimes I'd reference the edit I've listened to for years, sometimes an original session name since I like it better, sometimes it's completely made up. Appendix D So what is on the OST? Personal comments incoming, feel free to ignore them if you happen to like inexplicably random and non-chronological presentations! OST Old Material: 22:26 (31.83%) Adapted Material: 6:44 (9.55%) New Material: 41:19 (58.62%) Complete: 70:29 Appendix E Which unreleased cues can I look forward to most in a future expansion if I don't touch bootlegs and session leaks? (Personal favourites, recommendations) Yes, I've got way too much free time.

I think the set would have been high in demand among its target audience without Christmas.

Zam the Assasin and Chase Through Coruscant (Attack of the Clones) The Adventures of Tintin (""") The Jedi Steps and Finale (The Force Awakens) With Malice Toward None (Piano Solo) (Lincoln) Harry's Wondrous World (Harry Potter and the Philosophers Stone)

The Jedi Steps and Finale The Book Thief The Peterson House and Finale The Reunion (A.I.) Becoming a Geisha

Watched one of my favourite Christmas movies last night: Karol

Yeah it's one of the better ones in the film. Some of the edits are awful. More awful than I expected. Snowball Fight is butchered surprisingly terribly (quality of edit wise, it really only has two or three edits in it). That and Portrait Gallery / Big Doors / Great Hall Ceiling are particularly awful. Most of them just shorten things and aren't particularly bad (having the full track is of course better). In the case of the ones I mentioned: Removing instruments, abrupt edits, retiming, etc. Ugh. The poor music. I can't say that I prefer the film edits of anything of course, but "Brief Snow Scene" has an interesting edit in the film.

Somebody uploded the sessions to Youtube and included Three Note Loop in the place of the not leaked Chamber Opens as parts of it were tracked in there, but he did not specify what it was.

Philosopher's Stone: 1. Diagon Alley and The Gringotts Vault (Extended Version) 2. Harry Gets His Wand 3. Cast a Christmas Spell 4. Filch's Fond Remembrance 5. Love, Harry 6. Voldemort 7. Family Portrait 8. Hedwig's Theme for Harp 9. Teaser 10. Hogwarts Forever (Vocal Version) Chamber of Secrets 1. Magical Household and Letters From Hogwarts 2. The Writing on the Wall 3. Christmas Break 4. Car Drives Off / It's a Basilisk 5. Ginny Gets Snatched 6. Dumbledore and Harry 7. Prologue: Book II (Alternate) 8. Petrified Colin (Alternate) 9. Car Drives Off (Alternate Segment) 10. Television Commercial No. 3 This list is rubbish, by the way, I keep changing my mind. There's so much good stuff. I haven't listened to Prisoner of Azkaban yet.

Anyone ever do a analysis of the full score for Sleepers? I was rewatching the movie the other day and it seemed to me there was quite a bit of unreleased music. It's such a fantastic score

Blade Runner 2049 Oh, fuck. This movie is incredible. I love it.

Correct! That sweet HA2 OST, contains a lot of unique edits - nearly impossible to recreate by the stand alone tracks (I would even say that for a layman it is impossible). The edits are what you would call “a mess” - they’re all over the place, but they work splendidly! I’d love an official remastered version of the OST.

Actually I listened to them once or twice. But you're right, I should finally give them the amount of spins they deserve.

Another PoA highlight: "Buckbeak Saves the Day"! Love JW's (over)dramatic fight music when Buckbeak kicks the werewolf's ass, and then the strings going suddenly glissando as Buckbeak turns around, like, "Whatchoo looking at?" At 1:35

Good to know there's a market for the upcoming two disc expanded release of Black Sunday. Disc 1 is the Intrada album. Disc 2 is another copy of the Intrada album.

Bonne chance!

Any release from JW's Golden Age is an instant buy!

Mike Matessino worked on both the Rhino and the Blue Box as well...

Do you have a source? I'd love to read the whole thing.

Great story. Thanks for sharing. 😂

Like others have written, somewhat early for me to pick. It's all so good. (Although surprisingly the Children's Suite from HP1 has not really grabbed me like I thought it would.) One thing that has really leaped out to me about the movies and music is how enjoyable these are in listening to the full sets of music. This is especially true for Azkaban. (I've always loved the soundtracks to all 3 films.) I think Azkaban's presentation on the OST did a great job of showing the breadth of music in that film - it's somewhat staggering the genres and instruments used. Yes, in hearing all of the music together, I feel an even deeper appreciation for the craft that went into the work. It's like I was previously only hearing every other phrase of the music but not the totality. I feel the same to a lesser extent with regards to HP1 and 2 which is to take nothing away from those scores - it's just how much Azkaban has jumped for me. The score is pushing up there with Temple of Doom and Close Encounters for my top, top JW complete scores. I am in awe at the amount of work that went into this box set and deeply appreciative to La-La Land and Mike M. for the work. $100 is expensive, but there is no doubt for me the craft and love is there 10x that amount in the release.

When it comes to the Oscars and best score, I think a lot of times judges look for something that stands out, something that isn't all too conventional per se but more eclectic. I'd say First Man and Black Panther are very diverse (hehe) and unique score, if you get my meaning. My two favourite scores of the year, Solo and Fallen Kingdom, are much better to me than some of the other nominations, but they simply aren't that Oscar material stuff.

MusicBox just sent me the shipping notice. Hopefully will be here next week right after Christmas!

I agree with Ludwig that, stylistically, that passage is much more related to avant-garde writing than jazz. Maybe you get that feeling from the prominent "brass band", but harmonically it's definitely not jazz, in my opinion. I agree that it's really a passage to marvel at, and it's easily one of my favourite entries in JW's collection of avant-garde pieces. But all the dementor stuff in Azkaban is exceptional, as well as the whole Knight Bus ride sequence. It's the kind of stuff that showcases JW's exceptional aural imagination.

Not necessarily. I more so like how they're presented here together in one track. Also I had utterly forgotten the ghost song was on the OST. Huh. It's been awhile. True, but this was one of those tracks I felt like I was hearing for the first time again because of the new mix. And now with the opening 50 seconds it's perfect. You've got a bit of Dursley's, and all the big, magical themes coming back in for the first time in the film. I just love it. I do remember missing that opening when listening to the OST for CoS, I just appreciate that it's all here. Sure, but the opening two minutes is awesome! I really like the performance on the Platform 9 3/4 portion, and having it together with the Flying Car is great. Blimey. Was it really? I again felt like I was hearing this for the first time. I've been away from the Potter music longer than I thought... Again. Damnit. It was? Welp. This set has certainly made me revisit music that I had apparently strayed from for far too long! LOL. I think I'll amend the lists for 1 and 2, since I clearly did not remember what was actually on the OST. HP1: Diagon Alley and The Gringotts Vault [Extended Version] Harry Gets His Wand Through the Doors Fighting the Troll Filch’s Fond Remembrance The Chess Game [Extended Version] Gryffindor Wins the House Cup Nimbus 2000 Teaser Trailer HP2: The Escape From the Dursleys (Keeping this) The Train Station and The Flying Car (This too) Whomping Willow and The Car Escapes The Writing on the Wall Quidditch, Second Year Harry Is a Parselmouth Christmas Break Prologue: Book II [Alternate] Car Drives Off [Alternate Segment] Television Commercial No. 3 @Jay Looks like it's time for me to Pop-In my OSTs again. XD

Same thing happened with my JP order two years ago... first one was untraceable after taking 5 weeks, when I wrote to LLL they immediately sent another one, which arrived 6 days later, and the next day the original showed up. I inquired with them how I can return the spare, but never heard back, then I kinda forgot about it... so it's still gathering dust somewhere (the unopened package, that is). My HP/SL is still sitting in Frankfurt customs, for a solid 7 days now. The excitement rises...

I'm a little disappointed it's not a 4-CD set??? - A JWfan

And you say you have no sense of humour!

I'm... happy for everyone who wants it! (runs away)

I went straight to these tracks when I got my set: The Rescue of Sirius (numero uno unreleased cue - dwarfs anything else) The Big Doors Sirius And Harry The Dark Forest (the subject of many problematic volume changes in the sessions) Having the original teaser music for PS is also nostalgically significant. I remember seeing the trailer back in 2001 and there's something about the Hedwig statement just after 'There's so such thing as magic!' which is subtly different from other performances. I'm still discovering things in CoS because the sessions were a bit overwhelming when they first emerged and I never fully listened to them.

Look at the bright side. At least you'll have a hell of a New Year. Karol

Why is Williams never asked to score musicals like this? He has the perfect sensibilities, even if someone else wrote the lyrics for him.

Hitch is alive!

The last part is so intoxicating

Nothing’s cooler than a bunch of middle-aged Yorkshiremen playing brass instruments.

I ordered HP anyway, so I threw the new Home Alone in the cart as well. The old one will be a great christmas gift for my 80-year-old grandpa who likes John Williams a lot and loves the song "O Holy Night". I think he will be amazed by "Star of Betlehem".

What you have is good enough.