Marian Schedenig 8,198 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, King Mark said: I hope he recorded somekind of 4-5 minute piece even if they use only 1 minute of it on the TV show He's doing these things for the music. Even if the show itself needs only 50 seconds of music, I'm pretty sure Williams would still approach it as a concert piece and distil the show's shortened version from that. MaxTheHouseelf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rpvee 805 Posted February 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2022 Absolutely fantastic news, and there’s something quite nice about the fact that TROS will no longer be Williams’ final Star Wars project. This series will be the closest we might ever get to an extension of the nine-episode saga, and specifically Lucas’ original six. Williams coming up with the main theme for it raises my hype level and expectations even more, when I thought they couldn’t possibly be higher just from the subject and characters alone. Falstaft, GerateWohl, Tiburon and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,317 Posted February 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2022 Now I know why Star Wars expansions still haven't come out. Every time Mike puts the finishing touches on the liner notes, he has to go back and add another chapter! Holko, Bayesian, WampaRat and 5 others 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eitam 364 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 27 minutes ago, crypto said: A minor but not insignificant detail: is this Williams' first scoring project for a female director? Could be ! I thought Patty Jenkins' Rogue Squadron would be Williams' best shot at ticking that particular box, but here we go ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, rpvee said: This series will be the closest we might ever get to an extension of the nine-episode saga, and specifically Lucas’ original six. Williams coming up with the main theme for it raises my hype level and expectations even more, when I thought they couldn’t possibly be higher just from the subject and characters alone. This will also serve as a musical bridge between the prequel and original trilogy scores, right down the middle Solo was the same time period but for a character that only appeared in later trilogies. rpvee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, eitam said: Could be ! I thought Patty Jenkins' Rogue Squadron would be Williams' best shot at ticking that particular box, but here we go ! She is going to hire Hans Zimmer though...sadly j39m, eitam, Edmilson and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,110 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 I guess the basis of the news is limited at this point. But it's great news for us to rejoice with the 90th Birthday celebrations Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,287 Posted February 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2022 2 hours ago, WampaRat said: Wow. Never thought he’d come back after “retiring from Star Wars”. Things I learned today. 1. John Williams is a big fat liar. 2. John Williams loves us all. Mattris, Tiburon, Darth Mulder and 8 others 4 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WampaRat 1,105 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 IF Powell is the guy who is working with JW on this (and I think it’s still a really big IF) It will be amazing to hear almost 8 hours of JW/JP Star Wars music for this series! (…followed by only two 65 min albums missing some amazing highlights. 😜) Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, WampaRat said: 8 hours This is why I think it would be “John Powell and Batu Sener” or something. Either way, it would be very exciting still. WampaRat, Not Mr. Big and Muad'Dib 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 I'm rapidly starting to think it would be an insane coincidence for Powell to tease a forthcoming digital album with a surprise track and it turns out it's not Kenobi. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,044 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Now we just need to get JW writing a theme for a Star Wars video game! In all seriousness, I'm very excited about this rumor/news - very cautiously so. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Drew 590 Posted February 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2022 Quick, someone tell JW what video games are! Brando, Manakin Skywalker, igger6 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 4 hours ago, Jay said: https://variety.com/2022/artisans/news/john-williams-obi-wan-kenobi-theme-star-wars-series-1235185228/ YES!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS AWESOME!!! I was already looking forward to the series, but that anticipation just increased 100 fold! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 38 minutes ago, Datameister said: Now we just need to get JW writing a theme for a Star Wars video game! Just tell him Giacchino is scoring the next video game. Williams will be announced as composer within the week. Bayesian and Tydirium 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smeltington 1,440 Posted February 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2022 Quote Williams’ “Star Wars” scores are legendary. Nice to see that in print! Quote He is composing the scores for Steven Spielberg’s “The Fabermans” Go get 'em Jay!! Once, Raiders of the SoundtrArk and GerateWohl 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Great news! I'm so glad our collective speculation was so quickly validated. Now I just want to hear the theme! I hope they release it early to hype up the tv show itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WampaRat 1,105 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 This should hopefully be a worthy “consolation score” since we didn’t get Indy 5 this year;) A bonus JW Star Wars theme is quite the treat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BTR1701 59 Posted February 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, WampaRat said: This should hopefully be a worthy “consolation score” since we didn’t get Indy 5 this year;) A bonus JW Star Wars theme is quite the treat! The score to THE FABERMANS will be out this year as well. Not Mr. Big, Once and Taikomochi 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 HELL YEAH Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 1 hour ago, artguy360 said: Now I just want to hear the theme! It'll just be a medley of every variation of Binary Sunset from the sequels. igger6 and Tallguy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,370 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 He could perform it as an encore with the Vienna Philharmonic. Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igger6 894 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 20 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: He could perform it as an encore with the Vienna Philharmonic. It would be amazing if he did this, but it’s been 42 years since he actually did, right? Obviously I’m hoping for a totally original JW theme, but there are some great possibilities for reimaginings of things here, too, and if it’s Powell, you know he’s game for it. Imagine some tragic, reminiscent renderings of BotH on soft woodwinds, maybe even some references to Anakin’s theme or “Across the Stars” in some oblique or transformed state. From what I understand, the Disney-era Vader comics have dealt with some sort of quixotic attempt by Vader to resurrect Padmé. Maybe this will be a two-hander about these two broken warriors picking up the pieces of their respective pasts, with opportunities for all sorts of prequel music to come back in. What a lesson in gratitude the last decade has been for JWFans! We have it so good. Mattris and GerateWohl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Amazing news, if true. Please get john powell as far as he can from this project. The modern synth rythms do not belong to a midage kenobi series... My choice would be william ross, give him at last a full commitment, and maintain the classic sound please. No modern crap i pray. GerateWohl, Mattris and Not Mr. Big 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Yay! Probably Disney was like “Oh, shit we f*cked up with Boba Fett. People are loosing interest and Star Wars is getting a bad rap. How do we get legitimacy back?” But for whatever reason, I’m glad to see it happen! ragoz350 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Just occurred to me -- if not for Indy 5 getting delayed, we probably don't get a JW theme for Kenobi. Presumably JW would've been too busy writing Indy for the last 4 months instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 9 hours ago, LaloCoyoacan said: Jon Burlingame is quite trustworthy; Variety is a reliable source, I think Is that true, @mahler3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Great to have this confirmed. I'm pretty confident this will either be an arrangement of the Force theme, or somehow incorporating it. That's fine by me. Of all the STAR WARS evergreen themes that I've heard a million times before, the Force theme is the one I like the most (although it can't compete with the few seconds of choral religioso goodness in the Vader/Luke duel). It's a theme that Obi-Wan "shares" with other figures and elements in the story, so it isn't exclusively his own, but it's the closest we've got. Whatever the case, I look forward to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Coming late to the party but what an exiting news. Can't wait to hear this, after watching the last SW TV show I thought we will never hear again some proper Star Wars music but here we go... Star Wars is back! Love you Johnny baby! Mattris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mattris 416 Posted February 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2022 10 hours ago, Jay said: I did find it odd myself, after reading through the article, that it doesn't really reveal anything we didn't already know; No new comments by anyone involved or anything. I have to imagine Burlingame wouldn't write this, and Variety wouldn't print it, if it wasn't true, but it seems like an odd way to official reveal this. I assumed it would be announced one day via starwars.com It is odd, isn't it? I think we'll find that Star Wars is full of (more) surprises. 10 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Funny that we basically knew days in advance just from a cellist vaguely saying that they recorded something for JW. And the cellist was, no doubt, allowed to tease, proving that those in charge of Star Wars are quite adept at keeping major secrets. (They've done it many times already.) 9 hours ago, Chen G. said: Incredible. 9 movies, The Adventures of Han, Galaxy's Edge and now this! It really is incredible. Does this news cause you to consider that the mysterious, un-used 90 minutes (we assumed was composed for IX) was actually for something else? 9 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: And to think, not even 10 years ago we thought 6 films was the end of it! And 2 years ago we thought 9 films was the end of the Saga! (Oh, wait. Almost everyone in the world still does.) 9 hours ago, Jay said: ... this extends Williams' tenure of writing new Star Wars material 3 YEARS beyond where it was before, since TROS was 2019! This news only bolsters my theory that Williams' tenure will continue if the Star Wars Saga continues. (Surely, he would want to finish what he started.) 9 hours ago, WampaRat said: Wow. Never thought he’d come back after “retiring from Star Wars”. I got the feeling that JW was ready to move on. But perhaps It’s just too much damn fun for him to stop. JW only wanted us to believe that he had moved on from Star Wars... just another part of the distraction from their real plans. 9 hours ago, MrJosh said: This is really exciting news. My first thought goes to how fortunate we are that this is happening. I still remember seeing ROTS in theaters and having the thought in my head that it would be the last new John Williams Star Wars music that I would hear and accepted that fact. How crazy that here we are in 2022 and there is new John Williams Star Wars music to look forward to (after 3 additional movies, Solo, Galaxy's Edge, etc)... Most SW/JW fans can't currently fathom how crazy things could (soon) get. 9 hours ago, crypto said: Before this news, Indiana Jones was going to have the exact same 42 year gap as Star Wars, between Williams' first and last scores (1977 > 2019 for SW vs 1981 > 2023 for IJ). The sprawl for Star Wars is now 45 years between first and last contributions. Staggering. Clearly this just means Williams has to return for Indiana Jones 6 in 2026. Possibly. Or perhaps something else in 2027 for a certain 50th anniversary. 😉 9 hours ago, leeallen01 said: Regardless of the quality of the show, Johnny will show up as always. No one likes Rise of Skywalker, not even the people who made it, but Johnny's new theme for it is so fantastic. Mainly because it's about the entire meaning behind the legacy of Star Wars for him personally. You could feel it. Obi Wan represents so much weight for what Williams has done over the years for the saga, so I expect this new theme to have just as much meaning from Johnny's efforts. I think you will realize that The Rise of Skywalker titular theme was not composed for this reason... but instead, something... trIXie. 8 hours ago, crypto said: Just occurred to me MM was right all along. When TROS came out, Williams was saying publicly he was retiring from the series. But around the same time, Mike said he'd be open to returning in the future if the right project came along and Disney asked him to do it. And here we are. It really is that simple. 7 hours ago, rpvee said: Absolutely fantastic news, and there’s something quite nice about the fact that TROS will no longer be Williams’ final Star Wars project. This series will be the closest we might ever get to an extension of the nine-episode saga, and specifically Lucas’ original six. Williams coming up with the main theme for it raises my hype level and expectations even more, when I thought they couldn’t possibly be higher just from the subject and characters alone. In the topic that shall not be named, I went on record (far too many times) that TROS would not be Williams’ final Star Wars project. While I didn't predict that he would compose the theme for Kenobi, I'm not surprised in the slightest. I think fan hype can raise much higher. Considering how much hype is surrounding the Kenobi series, I don't say that lightly. 7 hours ago, crypto said: Now I know why Star Wars expansions still haven't come out. Every time Mike puts the finishing touches on the liner notes, he has to go back and add another chapter! Or Episode. 😉 6 hours ago, mrbellamy said: Things I learned today. 1. John Williams is a big fat liar. 2. John Williams loves us all. I don't think he's the only major Star Wars player playing (with) us. 1 hour ago, rough cut said: Probably Disney was like “Oh, shit we f*cked up with Boba Fett. People are loosing interest and Star Wars is getting a bad rap. How do we get legitimacy back?” But for whatever reason, I’m glad to see it happen! I'm glad, too. But it's likely that Williams has known about this project for some time. My understanding of Star Wars has led me to believe that there is a particular method to Lucasfilm's release schedule and presentation strategy. (Bottom line: They have a plan comprised of... "a great many things.") artguy360, Chen G., DarthDementous and 2 others 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTenma 116 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Great news! That means that I'll have to see the tv series hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GerateWohl 4,370 Posted February 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2022 I don't expect something like a personal theme for the character Obi-Wan Kenobi, but rather a theme that illustrates this particular adventure. Maybe a little reference to the Force Theme like in Battle of Heroes, but I rather hope not. Maybe something with a Lawrence of Arabia desert vibe like these parts in Galaxy's Edge, that don't sound like a news channel jingle. greenturnedblue, Yannick and artguy360 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted February 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2022 What a beautiful reason for Falstaft to dust off that musical catalogue once more! On 17/02/2022 at 5:12 PM, Jay said: Was just thinking that this extends Williams' tenure of writing new Star Wars material 3 YEARS beyond where it was before, since TROS was 2019! There is something I find genuinely so endearing about Williams, this very soft-spoken, private, and reserved man who deals in the traditional ways of pen and paper, being so protective over this massively loud space opera franchise of all things. Prior to the Disney ownership, I really wasn't sure how much Williams cared about his association to Star Wars, but the last few years have really helped to drill home that he really seems to hold such an association close to his heart. On 14/02/2022 at 5:15 PM, Disco Stu said: Guys, in 2022 we're getting a new Spielberg/Williams collaboration, a new Raimi/Elfman collaboration, and now a new Howard Shore Tolkien score. Good times! And now we can add new John Williams Star Wars music to the list. 2022 sure is feeling a lot like 2002. On 17/02/2022 at 5:53 PM, Tom said: Surely this picture can generate some creativity on the board. "Hmm, a theme for Obi-Wan, huh? Okay, um, let's see here... George had me shelve that theme for him back in '98. Damn, it's got to be here somewhere. Think, Johnny, think!" GerateWohl, Once, eitam and 35 others 5 2 29 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxTheHouseelf 324 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Indeed fantastic news! What a year this will be with so many releases and concerts coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Ha, ha. Good one, Cerebral Cortex! I'm very impressed by the photoshopping skills in this forum. Andy and Cerebral Cortex 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 11 hours ago, Drew said: I'm not going to fully embrace this until Disney announces it. I don't like that the article is based on "sources". Jon Burlingame is a respected film journalist veteran. He'd never publish something if not confirmed by reliable sources. Amer and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Can I just say that even though I'm excited to hear this piece, I'm beginning to find it a bit ridiculous that they're asking him to compose theme after theme that he really should have composed while he was doing the movies? Continuity-wise, this makes no sense at all, thoug it fits perfectly in Disney's 'we'll see where things go, just crank them out!' strategy. BB-8 and Mattris 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Wouldn't it be lovely if William Ross did this? Karol Once and Tom Guernsey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,286 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, crocodile said: Wouldn't it be lovely if William Ross did this? Karol As I mentioned elsewhere, I wonder if this hints at them going for a more traditional Star Wars sound for this show after the Ennio goes rogue music for the other shows. William Ross would be a great choice and if they got him to write the theme I’m sure they consulted on choice of composer too. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Yeah, there's no way Williams agrees to score the theme without knowing the main composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,478 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 52 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: Can I just say that even though I'm excited to hear this piece, I'm beginning to find it a bit ridiculous that they're asking him to compose theme after theme that he really should have composed while he was doing the movies? Continuity-wise, this makes no sense at all, thoug it fits perfectly in Disney's 'we'll see where things go, just crank them out!' strategy. And if only the next generation of film composers would make use of this plethora of themes. I mean, just look how little they made of the many HP themes. Hedwig was the only one which kept popping up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Really hope to hear some quotes of Battle of the Heroes, one of my favourite pieces of all time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 8,017 Posted February 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2022 I wonder whether Williams will offer some additional sketches that were composed to specific scenes like ge did with Solo? Karol Raiders of the SoundtrArk, artguy360, Fabulin and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,138 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 I am not sure what to expect... I hope John surprises us. If Obi-Wan's purpose at this time is to protect young Luke, it would be nice to have Luke's Theme round it out as a coda, as in the final seconds of the TFA End Credits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted February 18, 2022 Author Share Posted February 18, 2022 Looking at this first page is nuts, so many posts have the border around them from having at least 3 likes. I doubt any other page on this entire forum has that many BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 I predicted this development. Makes a ton of sense. On 08/02/2022 at 11:45 PM, TheUlyssesian said: I am wondering if he might like the Solo model in the future perhaps? So he is asked to contribute 2-3 themes and 1-2 suites. And that's it. And then another composer runs with them and does the overall score. I think he might find it attractive. It is no different than writing for concert hall since he would in fact be writing JUST the concert suite. We know most modern composers can't write good themes for shit (even the big name ones) and Williams can do so in his sleep. So this might be a great arrangement. I am sure this can work almost as an apprenticeship for young upcoming composers who would give their left kidney for a job like this - taking Williams themes and crafting a full score around them. Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 4 hours ago, bollemanneke said: Continuity-wise, this makes no sense at all As much as I made the Ring comparison earlier, ultimately Star Wars doesn't have the same musical continuity, so its hard to criticize the place this new Obi Wan theme would have in the piece as a whole. I mean, if the Williams-scored Star Wars cycle were to be taken as a single piece of musical dramaturgy in the style of the Ring, then why are Duel of the Fates and the Imperial March built up in the "first" three entries only for the former to disappear completely and the latter to go on vacation for a whole film? Why does Han get two themes that are never reprised again? Why is the motive associated with the Droids - the two characters who unite all the entries - never heard again except in one entry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted February 18, 2022 Author Share Posted February 18, 2022 10 hours ago, Smeltington said: He is composing the scores for Steven Spielberg’s “The Fabermans” I am kind of surprised Variety still hasn't fixed that typo 16 hours later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fabulin 3,514 Posted February 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2022 32 minutes ago, Jay said: Looking at this first page is nuts, so many posts have the border around them from having at least 3 likes. I doubt any other page on this entire forum has that many The community has gotten to know each other over the years, and like in every long-running show, there is just more connection between us all. I think I can speak for all the regulars that over time we have learned how to read the JWFan room a bit better and just know what to say to each other. Also, observing Williams aging and entering more and more mature phases in his career has made every return of his, no matter how small, feel like a little celebration of life... ...only for Williams to get so active as of late that we get to throw a reunion BBQ party every week now Mattris, Raiders of the SoundtrArk, Muad'Dib and 6 others 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 A theme for the TV show is not necessarily a character theme Tallguy and Marian Schedenig 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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